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Title: Equestria Girls
Post by: PandaBerryInSpace on March 02, 2013, 06:24:50 AM
I am really sorry if there's already a thread for this, but did everyone see the recent NY Times article? Equestria Girls spinoff has been confirmed, with real concept art.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/02/business/hasbro-expands-transformers-brand-into-new-media.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&

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Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: stormwing on March 02, 2013, 06:33:42 AM
That's horrifying.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: kakenterprise on March 02, 2013, 06:36:47 AM
Alright this is how I see it, it's like when they re did the powerpuff girls in Japanese.  It was completely different from the original.  I'm not going to put high expectations into the Equestria Girls but I'll give it a chance.  It could be worth a watch maybe not.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Sandi on March 02, 2013, 06:46:36 AM
That's horrifying.
This.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: ApertureScience on March 02, 2013, 06:48:54 AM
I'm probably in the minority here, but I think they're cute.  There are a few things I would change though:
-Outfits are too similar.  Variety needed, especially in Rarity's department.  We all know that she doesn't do everyday fashion.  Then again, there's also a possibility that the clothes style is following a uniform policy...
-If wings are there, horns need to be too.  Massive "duh!" there.
-Lipstick.  Get rid of it.  It isn't doing them any favors (especially not Rainbow Dash or Applejack) and not all girls are into that crap.

Otherwise, very cute.  It will never, ever replace ponies in my heart but I am interested to see where it will go.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Malicieuse on March 02, 2013, 06:49:48 AM
I'm looking forward to it! I think the designs are pretty cute and i can't wait to see the actual dolls. I like how the new designs kept the ears, tails and wings.
I don't get why the horns are gone though and i wish the eyes on Applejack were a bit different.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: PhyllieBean on March 02, 2013, 06:52:29 AM
I still don't know that I'm 100% sold on that being the official art.  It just doesn't seem right to me.  And I know it's NY Times and a reputable paper, but they don't have any direct quotes of confirmation of information from Hasbro itself anywhere in that article, so...at this point I'm taking it all with a grain of salt still.  Seems like it's still a lot of speculation and no confirmation. 
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: MoonShadow on March 02, 2013, 07:03:54 AM
To think I thought Hasbro may release a Firefly/Dash or Surprise/Pinkie pack to celebrate 30 years of pony... I guess this is a much more accurate representation.  :/

I am interested to see what the premises may be.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Lady Starflower on March 02, 2013, 07:06:38 AM
That's horrifying.
This.

Yupp my thoughts exactly
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: ApertureScience on March 02, 2013, 07:15:47 AM
Since my last post, I found out that this was the 30th anniversary celebration thing (I didn't read the article at first; I went elsewhere, so it took me so long to notice that).  I must say, this is nothing close to what I had in mind for the anniversary.  I would prefer pony toys for that occasion...
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: KtKat on March 02, 2013, 07:17:36 AM
Just from the designs, it feels like it goes against the original character theme of the show-  that every girl is different!  Putting every single one of them in a skirt and makeup seems to miss that point.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: BrightIdea on March 02, 2013, 07:24:26 AM
Cute teenage girls?  Oh no, that IS truly horrifying!  :P

Joking aside, I hope they make dolls of these.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Mkia on March 02, 2013, 07:26:16 AM
Wow I didn't know they confirmed it.

Well if all else fails the dolls will be cool!! Lol
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: majikarte on March 02, 2013, 07:37:26 AM
I'm still not a fan of these outfits. Twilight and Pinkie's aren't bad, and I kind of like Rarity's, but the rest... uhh...

I find it weird that they added wings and ears, but no horns? Not sure how I feel about cutie marks on their faces either.

But wow, that's super dumb if this is all Hasbro is doing for the 30th anniversary. Seriously?

Just from the designs, it feels like it goes against the original character theme of the show-  that every girl is different!  Putting every single one of them in a skirt and makeup seems to miss that point.

QFT!!! (quoted for truth I can't remember if I've seen anyone use that in a long time...)
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: HawaiianRain on March 02, 2013, 07:39:03 AM
SO ORIGINAL HASBRO..

no horns yet they gave them pony ears... Way too much like monster high. If monster high was was given a shot of rainbows and sugar, this would be that result.



Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: babylofty on March 02, 2013, 07:55:47 AM
You know, I collect some dolls. I collect a lot more Ponies. But I won't collect these.

Way to slap collectors of 30 years in the FACE, Hasbro.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: achab1984 on March 02, 2013, 08:01:30 AM
Hasbro is being stupid!!!! I will not buy one single thing with these in it.........sorry
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: sailorstitch on March 02, 2013, 08:06:20 AM
NNNNNOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was so hoping that these rumors weren't true. YUCK!

sailorstitch
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Tropical_Sunset on March 02, 2013, 08:12:00 AM
Just from the designs, it feels like it goes against the original character theme of the show-  that every girl is different!  Putting every single one of them in a skirt and makeup seems to miss that point.

I agree.  They're all too similar. :/  So much for "there's lots of different ways to be a girl"...
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Malicieuse on March 02, 2013, 08:19:33 AM
Just from the designs, it feels like it goes against the original character theme of the show-  that every girl is different!  Putting every single one of them in a skirt and makeup seems to miss that point.

I agree.  They're all too similar. :/  So much for "there's lots of different ways to be a girl"...

Well, let's not forget that the bodytype of most ponies is the same too...The only thing that really makes them different is their hair and personality. I remember something about Faust wanting to make Pinkie Pie a bit chubbier but that didn't happen either.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Sakuyamon on March 02, 2013, 08:25:22 AM
Yea I agree with the rest of you guys...They are too close to Monster High (which I do not really like) and the clothes are too similar as well, and whats up with all of them having skirts?! Thats not how most girls dress!

I dont believe this is a good concept since everybody have their own idea of how the human versions of the ponies would look as humans. A lot of people will be flank hurt that Hasbro screws up their version of them.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Tropical_Sunset on March 02, 2013, 08:31:50 AM
Just from the designs, it feels like it goes against the original character theme of the show-  that every girl is different!  Putting every single one of them in a skirt and makeup seems to miss that point.

I agree.  They're all too similar. :/  So much for "there's lots of different ways to be a girl"...

Well, let's not forget that the bodytype of most ponies is the same too...The only thing that really makes them different is their hair and personality. I remember something about Faust wanting to make Pinkie Pie a bit chubbier but that didn't happen either.

Different body types would be AWESOME.  But yeah, I guess Hasbro doesn't dig that.  And it would be harder for the dolls to switch outfits and accessories that way I guess.  It just feels like the designers didn't even do the bare minimum to make the girls different from each other with this all females must wear skirts, have super-long hair, and wear makeup garbage.  There is nothing wrong with any of those things, of course, but not every girl in the world looks like that or does those things.  Rainbow Dash with lipstick on and AJ in a mini-skirt creep me out a little.

I like that they added pony ears and wings but why don't the unicorns have their horns?  Really don't care for the face tatts or the makeup.  Also, I thought they had tails at first but they actually just have really long ponytails... Ehhh...
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: RedKitsune on March 02, 2013, 08:34:24 AM
Okay...they have pony ears and wings. How are they supposed to fit in with the other people at their human school? x_x;; I think the designs are cute, but how are they going to make this concept work? Can they hide their pony features when they want to? In the original concept picture that got leaked, they didn't have the extra features, so maybe that is what is going on. Anyway, I will give the show a chance, if it's awful, I just won't watch it and continue to watch the original FIM. I will also buy a doll of fluttershy if it comes out xp
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: keikokukien on March 02, 2013, 08:34:57 AM
Sorry, but...that is just terrible...If they were normal-skin tones, I might could get it a little better, but just--they--they're ponies! *headdesk*

Tropical Sunset, yes! All of what you said. And you know, there -are- different body types in the show, but more seen in the boy ponies. What about Mrs. Cake and Granny Smith and Babs Seed? Twist is kinda the same body type, but a little different. The variety made them seem more endearing.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Malicieuse on March 02, 2013, 08:59:03 AM
Sorry, but...that is just terrible...If they were normal-skin tones, I might could get it a little better, but just--they--they're ponies! *headdesk*

Tropical Sunset, yes! All of what you said. And you know, there -are- different body types in the show, but more seen in the boy ponies. What about Mrs. Cake and Granny Smith and Babs Seed? Twist is kinda the same body type, but a little different. The variety made them seem more endearing.

I'm pretty sure we will see secondary characters with different bodytypes in the new show. But none of the main characters got a different body type. They look very similar really...
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: StarDragon on March 02, 2013, 09:08:16 AM
Reminds me of when Lisa Frank turned everything into girl dolls. I miss those days when it was all about the rainbow animals

I wonder if this is the new line that Hasbro said was for older audience? Or is that something else?
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: MANIMAL! on March 02, 2013, 09:11:48 AM
As long as it's just a spin-off, I don't care.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: rtattles on March 02, 2013, 09:17:23 AM
What? No unicorn girls?
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: LunaDehligt on March 02, 2013, 09:21:52 AM
I knew that they would be people  -_-
and i dont like it so I think I will stop watching.  :sad:
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Eternia on March 02, 2013, 09:25:18 AM
I really don't get all the hate here. this is a brilliant move by hasbro. I think they are supposed to be like monster high, this is their way of bringing something similar to the market.
I agree though that they need to either ditch the wings and ears, or add horns. They are either antro ponies, or they are girls. not both. I would prefer the pony elements be ditched all together. The outfits do need work. they aren't very individualized to each character.
I'm actually pretty interested to see how this goes.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: StarlightGaze on March 02, 2013, 09:33:36 AM
I think they're cute, but they're barely ponies for a 30th anniversary. MLP is about ponies, not dolls.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Salli on March 02, 2013, 09:39:37 AM
I'm interested in this too. I confess that I'll buy them if they release these in doll form. But-

Definitely not going to replace ponies for my affection.
They made design decisions that I don't agree with either (skirts are cheaper to make, that's why the skirts). (and no horns is really dumb).
I do think this is a silly way to celebrate the anniversary. I mean, we love ponies because we love PONIES. So common sense says: celebrate with PONIES  :blink: right??
I think they are hopping on the Monster High bandwagon too. I love MH and collect them, BUT- I wish Hasbro would focus on really developing their own line, instead of trying to hi-jack another one. They can't spend the money to make more poses but they can invest in full-blown dolls?

It just reaffirms the continued poor decision-making going on at Hasbro which makes me sad.
Also, has anyone else noticed that this is yet one more way to release the mane 6?  -_-
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: LeighAnnApanites on March 02, 2013, 09:57:02 AM
I'll say that I expected horrible, saccharine dreck from FiM, but when I finally watched it I LOVED it and was immediately hooked. So I'm not going to condemn this new stuff out of hand. BUT I just don't get it. Antro ponies? Girly, made up, short skirt and heels wearing antro ponies? Really, really not my style.

Edit: Ok, I looked at the pic again, and not high heels, but still . . .
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: LadyMoondancer on March 02, 2013, 10:00:16 AM
"There are lots of different ways to be a girl!  . . . as long as you wear a short skirt and make-up."

Appalling.

(And I don't have a problem with girls wearing short skirts or make-up.  It's that EVERY CHARACTER is in skirts there.)
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Dibbles on March 02, 2013, 10:01:23 AM
Yuck.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: NoDivision on March 02, 2013, 10:21:04 AM
Well, I'm glad they did give them wings/ears/tails as opposed to the first artwork we saw. I think the art style is very cute, and I'm sure the show will be well done. It's not something I'm personally interested in watching though.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: RedKitsune on March 02, 2013, 10:35:26 AM
I knew that they would be people  -_-
and i dont like it so I think I will stop watching.  :sad:

Please clarify for me why would you give up watching FIM, a show you love, just because the company decided to make a completely separate spin off of that show? 0_x; They are not canceling FIM for Equestria Girls, so why give up something you enjoy?

Kitsune
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Sarah Jo on March 02, 2013, 10:40:49 AM
They are either antro ponies, or they are girls. not both. I would prefer the pony elements be ditched all together. The outfits do need work. they aren't very individualized to each character.
I'm actually pretty interested to see how this goes.

Agreed with all of this. I'm very interested and going to give it every open-minded chance and hope for the best.  I would be so much more on board if they had human skin tones and no pony-stuff.

I really like their hair. :)
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Sunset on March 02, 2013, 10:44:53 AM
I am really disappointed if this is all we get for the 30 year anniversery.  I don't mind this on the side, but I was really hoping for some cool new PONY stuff.  You know, to celebrate My Little PONY.

I also find it strange that there are no horns if there are going to be wings, tails, etc.  and I'm with all of you on the mini skirts.

Also just to add my opinion on all parts of the discussion, I personally like them better anthro than completely human.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on March 02, 2013, 10:49:29 AM
Mini skirts and boots = pony? Mmkay.

I can't say I'm surprised by this idea really. Has anyone done a search for My Little Pony online lately? Over the last year or two the internet has been filled with fanart of ponies turned humans; even before this rumor showed up.

I'm gonna assume as a toy company Hasbro is wanting to make dolls and sell them because they assume that is what kids and adults of MLP want.

So on the box for these dolls will it say My Little Pony or My little Human? :silly:

If they are going to make dolls they better do this right because  If they're crappy or mediocre I'm not going to buy it just because it's supposed to be a My Little Pony as a human.

This is taking the Last Unicorn theme to the extreme. I guess the ponies are going to run into Schmendrick and in a terrifying fight with the Red Bull Schmendrick turns the main 6 into humans and sends them to earth or...something like that (hehe).

I just wondering what kind of story lines they're going to put out with a cartoon of the main 6 becoming human. Call me wary of the idea.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: cacopony on March 02, 2013, 10:53:19 AM
the thing I don't like about it is that they are all wearing skirts, and short skirts.
why can't they wear shorts or pants?  UnU  this kind of thinking I hate it :/
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Mandy85 on March 02, 2013, 11:01:50 AM
I'm actually intrigued by this new turn of events and I'm willing to give Equestria Girls a shot before condemning it. If it's not for me then it's not for me, but I think the designs are kind of cute. As long as they have no plans of completely replacing their traditional ponies with this, I have no problem with it.

I'm also one who's looking forward to the rumored doll line and will probably be picking up a few if they're done well. As far as the dresses go, maybe we'll see more of a variety in their outfits as the series/toy line progresses? If they're going to try and keep up with the other popular playline fashion dolls at the moment, they're going to have to opt for more variety. I can't imagine that all we're going to get out of this is miniskirts.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: joey on March 02, 2013, 11:07:36 AM
I'm really interested to see how this plays out.  I am not sure Hasbro should be saying that this new show/brand is a way to celebrate 30 years of My Little Pony.  There are definitely better ways to do that.

I think it's a risky move for Hasbro and there is a high probability that it will flop.  It's obvious Hasbro is trying to expand and capitalize on their new pony fanbase.  However, it will be weird to see the pony logo on Monster High looking dolls.   

It may be a good show (I'll definitely watch it) but the main point here, as always, is to sell toys.  I will admit that I'm a bit confused by some of their design choices... but maybe this art isn't final.

Is there a release date for when this new show will air?
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: StarlightGaze on March 02, 2013, 11:22:33 AM
I have a feeling this will be a bad move for Hasbro.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on March 02, 2013, 12:13:48 PM
As others have pointed out I don't quite understand why hasbro would go with this idea to celebrate 30 years?

We're going to celebrate the brand of My Little Pony, the operative word being Pony by turning the ponies into humans????

Somehow this just seems like a weird choice. to celebrate 30 years of ponies.

Yay 30 years of ponies, HERE have a human? Wha?
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: PandaBerryInSpace on March 02, 2013, 12:16:00 PM
They don't actually have tails. They have very long hair, with a longer part of their hair tied off separately. Basically, they all have rattails... Ew!!! LOL, I can't stand rattails.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Zombelina on March 02, 2013, 12:18:26 PM
Just gotta add my vote to the minority who like them :heart: And I still like ponies too, so really, ponies crossed with dolls is my sweet spot :P (And it does seem odd as a 30th anniversary MLP celebration thing, but Hasbro's a giant company out to make money, and non-human dolls are hot right now, so it does make sense in that respect.)

I'm not too fussed about what the show might be like, I'm never really into the shows that go along with toylines anyway... I just want the dolls! (Yeah, I know, so shallow! :throw:) And I'm loving this new concept art for them. I think it's super cute that they're keeping more pony features than in the last image we saw. I'll def. be buying this first mane 6 if they get a doll release :D

As far as the dresses go, maybe we'll see more of a variety in their outfits as the series/toy line progresses? If they're going to try and keep up with the other popular playline fashion dolls at the moment, they're going to have to opt for more variety. I can't imagine that all we're going to get out of this is miniskirts.

I hope there'd be more variety (jeans pls!) to come too! For now I'm not too bothered by these first "signature" releases all wearing miniskirts (RD even has shorts under hers, so cute); I feel like the outfits are meant to have a schoolgirl uniform-like similarity to them, which I'm cool with. ^.^
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: PandaBerryInSpace on March 02, 2013, 12:19:24 PM
If these were made to compete with Monster High, then please God, let the dolls be articulated. Nothing would disappoint me more of they were static with no joints. :C
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on March 02, 2013, 12:25:52 PM
If these were made to compete with Monster High, then please God, let the dolls be articulated. Nothing would disappoint me more of they were static with no joints. :C

To be honest my dream would be 16" dolls if they were gonna make dolls. Especially since I'm not particularly a monster high fan. I get that they are popular but they're just so skinny/tiny looking. I hope the pony version Hasbro is intending is much prettier/cuter than MH.

If only they'd do big dolls (16 inches) I could totally rob my Tyler Wentworth and various Tonner dolls.

Frankly I'd love to see a doll company like Robert Tonner make the ponies as human doll versions because his stuff is always awesome. The fashions and clothing on the pony dolls would be to die for and would NOT be all mini skirts.

I'd also be awesome with 16" dolls because I could possibly share clothing with Ellowyne Wilde dolls, which is a offshot of Tonner but her clothing is awesome as well.

Hasbro, please talk to Tonner, don't pay attention to Mattel, please please!!
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: MilkyTaroMochi on March 02, 2013, 12:28:36 PM
If these were made to compete with Monster High, then please God, let the dolls be articulated. Nothing would disappoint me more of they were static with no joints. :C
i agree with this.
I'd buy one of Rarity regardless because she is my fav FiM character, but if they arent articulated like with other doll lines, I wouldn't get any more of them. In a way, articulation can be a bit of a deal breaker for me when it comes to [fashion] dolls, excluding special edition dolls or for certain doll lines.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: xeevee on March 02, 2013, 12:40:25 PM
I try to be open minded in these things and judge after I've actually seen the show, but this looks terrible.  I was actualy really excited for the new ponies when the word came out, it looked like something I could enjoy on several levels and it didn't let me down.  This however...

Maybe the show will be ok, but I doubt I'll watch it, the art work is hideous, and like everyone has said how is them all being the same following the theme of fim?  But really most of all, I'm a pony collector and I will not be buying these toys.  They would have to be really impressive for me to even consider getting them for my daughter.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Zombelina on March 02, 2013, 12:43:03 PM
If these were made to compete with Monster High, then please God, let the dolls be articulated. Nothing would disappoint me more of they were static with no joints. :C
i agree with this.
I'd buy one of Rarity regardless because she is my fav FiM character, but if they arent articulated like with other doll lines, I wouldn't get any more of them. In a way, articulation can be a bit of a deal breaker for me when it comes to [fashion] dolls, excluding special edition dolls or for certain doll lines.

Thirded. It'll be very disappointing if they don't have actual knees and elbows XD

As for the size, I can't really see them making 16" fashion dolls, since that size is generally aimed at the older/adult collector market, not the little-girl playline market. I would guess they'll be 8-11" dolls to suit the target crowd. And if they're successful, maybe someday someone like Tonner will license them to do special limited editions for us collectors! That'd be rad.  ^.^

(edited because I can't grammar)
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Prince Primbrose on March 02, 2013, 12:53:37 PM
Soo, I guess that "fake" image that was released in the last few weeks was real concept art? Hmm... Does anyone have a different source for the image? I don't want to believe that these are really the designs they're going with. u__u
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: celticowgirl88 on March 02, 2013, 12:54:40 PM
Ewww..... :(
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Clipper on March 02, 2013, 01:00:24 PM
umm.. eww.. there goes pony. lol
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: MaronaPossessed on March 02, 2013, 01:02:38 PM
there goes hasbro being stupid again
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Jinxxy on March 02, 2013, 01:04:02 PM
That's horrifying.
This.

Yes this!! *pukes in mouth a little*
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Sonata on March 02, 2013, 01:04:12 PM
Interesting. I want to know how this will work out.

If they make dolls of this, I'll probably buy some. Looks cute !
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Rosencrantz on March 02, 2013, 01:08:57 PM
Good lord, I was wrong.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Corona on March 02, 2013, 01:09:54 PM
They're cute but they're going to  be competing with Monster High, which has pretty much already established itself as high ruler of the anthropomorphic/fantasy dolls niche. This'll either work out because the series will resonate with Monster High fans or fail spectacularly because Monster High snuffs it out.

I'm going to try this show anyway despite not liking Monster High or any shows of that sort. I prefer animals in my animation.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: hathorcat on March 02, 2013, 01:27:28 PM
I cant say I am surprised. I thought the images were real and the fact that this is now being confirmed 4 months ahead of when Hasbro had initially planned it is a very good indication that the previous leak was concept artwork. It was always odd that if it hadnt been real or very close to accurate that Hasbro had not come out and denied them.

It also makes sense for them to go after this market - MH is a massive success and Hasbro dont have anything to compete with Mattel in that market at the moment. So why not take the incredible popular success that FiM has unexpectedly become and package it to the teen market who already think MLP is "cool", who may be buying MLP merch but not the "kiddie" toys which are currently available, who are already picking up MH dolls in stores - and make a product which suits them.

All that being said, they are not my cup of tea. If I wanted to collect dolls, I wouldnt be on the MLP Arena and I would have a room filled with pullips or MH and not ponies. I think thats why people are upset and I understand that stand point. However, as long as its a separate entity and it doesnt affect the pony toy line I'll be fine with that. But for me there is the worry that if ponies are not doing great in their target market that Hasbro will consider keeping ponies to blind bags and upping attention to toys for this new line. Thats wild speculation of course but the general lack of attention on new characters for the last year has been very disappointing.

I do also truly hope this is not all we are getting for the 30th Anniversary. I think that would be a bit of a slap in the face...I mean I cant imagine Hasbro trying that with another line. "Hey its Transformers 30th Anniversary...lets stop making them robots and turn them all into talking plants"
 
I guess we will have to see...its going to be interesting times
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Flutterwonder13 on March 02, 2013, 01:32:11 PM
Hasbro. Wat r u doing. Hasbro. STAHP.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Moonracer on March 02, 2013, 01:34:24 PM
I don't get what the fuss is all about...

These designs aren't really THAT terrible, actually they look kind of cute. Enough with the overreacting, mmmkay? ;)

Though on the second thought, I can guess why people are so upset over this: first off it looks like a desperate move on Hasbro's part to attempt to cash in on the ongoing Monster High trend. Which is really cheap, and unoriginal. Secondly, the designers aren't being really consistent: why do RD and Fluttershy get to keep their wings, but Twilight and Rarity can't have their horns?

Thirdly, I think the designers went a little lazy with the designs: personally I'd like to see them have more varied body types rather than all of them sporting this skinny physique, and also some natural skin tones, rather than them having their original shade. Mostly because I really want to see all those annoying racist idiots who keep asking "why is Twilight Sparkle black?" finally shut up, but also because I like seeing characters that are more diverse. 

So, bottom line: the Equestria Girls designes aren't THAT terrible, but they aren't perfect either. Maybe if they had Lauren Faust as their creative consultant, this would've worked out better... And no, I'm not saying this because I think Lauren Faust is some sort of living goddess among men and that every word coming from her is absolute. I'm saying this because I think that with her creative ability she'd be able to come up with much better and more diverse designs for Mane 6's human counterparts.

Case in point: just look at what she did to the trio of Super Girl, Batgirl and Wonder girl in Super Best Friends Forever. Those have to be some of the best designs I've seen of these three, in years! Super Girl actually looks like an actual human being, rather than a walking realdoll with big boobs and borken anatomy, as seen in most of DC's comics in which she appears.

I'm pretty sure that with Faust's influence, this whole thing would've worked out much, much, MUCH better.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Ice Crystal on March 02, 2013, 01:36:59 PM
If they can pull it off, this is a really smart move imo.

Fashion dolls are a market in which Hasbro currently has nothing to offer. They have nothing to compete with the likes of Monster High and Bratz, the former of which is doing pretty well in a world where toys are rapidly losing the fight against video games and electronics. Not only that, but they are geared towards a slightly older target. Little girls who fell in love with these six characters have a higher chance of staying loyal to the brand as they move from brushable ponies to collectible dolls. They won't have to lose these friends they have come to know, just see them in a new way--and, at that age, a way they will be able to relate to more--and Hasbro can keep their business for a few more years.

I think as collectors we tend to forget that their main line isn't exactly for us. If little girls enjoy Equestria Girls then Hasbro has succeeded and well, to be honest, I doubt they really care how we feel about it. Hasbro may have something else in store for collectors to celebrate their 30 year anniversary so I wouldn't rule it out.

Personally, I'm eager to see how this all plays out. I'm more interested in seeing the dolls than the show. I think the designs look much better with ears and wing. Agree it's odd that they left out the horns, but I'm hoping the unicorns have some other unique factor we just can't see. If they don't then yeah, I agree that's very inconsistent. Someone on another thread pointed out that their "tails" are actually long ponytails, which I think is pretty clever.

Overall, they're not perfect, but eh. They're trying.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Flutterwonder13 on March 02, 2013, 01:45:28 PM


I'm pretty sure that with Faust's influence, this whole thing would've worked out much, much, MUCH better.

I'm pretty sure if Lauren had a say, this trainwreck would have never made it off the drawing board.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Moonracer on March 02, 2013, 02:02:25 PM
If they can pull it off, this is a really smart move imo.

Fashion dolls are a market in which Hasbro currently has nothing to offer. They have nothing to compete with the likes of Monster High and Bratz, the former of which is doing pretty well in a world where toys are rapidly losing the fight against video games and electronics. Not only that, but they are geared towards a slightly older target. Little girls who fell in love with these six characters have a higher chance of staying loyal to the brand as they move from brushable ponies to collectible dolls. They won't have to lose these friends they have come to know, just see them in a new way--and, at that age, a way they will be able to relate to more--and Hasbro can keep their business for a few more years.
 

Well, Hasbro could always try rebooting "Jem", and give it a slight makeover to make it more modern. Hasbro still has rights to "Jem", right? If so, I don't see why they shouldn't give it a try - Transformers, G.I. Joe and MLP are a great proof that you can take a franchise that's almost thirty years old and still make it popular. So what's stopping them from doing just that with "Jem"? It would work out better than Equestria Girls.

But, whatever...
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Zapper on March 02, 2013, 02:06:37 PM


I'm pretty sure that with Faust's influence, this whole thing would've worked out much, much, MUCH better.

I'm pretty sure if Lauren had a say, this trainwreck would have never made it off the drawing board.

Nothing personal, you guys, but this Faust worship needs to stop. This brand is owned by Hasbro and Hasbro decides what happens to the brand. Faust successfully revamped what has already been there to begin with, she didn't come up with the idea of MLP on her own and then got ripped off by Hasbro. Also, she left on her own, she wasn't kicked out or anything.

Why not just wait and see what this new franchise will be abaout instead of declaring it a massive fail just because it was obviously designed to compete with other toy company's material.
Why do you think Hasbro keeps on re-inventing MLP instead of letting it die off? To make money. Pushing the brand into a new territory was inevitable.
When the first designs of FiM were shown, people hated it. It looked too reminiscent of 3.5 and it focused once again on a core cast, which led people to believe that there were going to be no collectible characters aside from the Cores. And now look at you and how you love that franchise ;)

Okay now, I like that they kept their original colors and ears. The ideas with the "pony hoof" boots and the ponytails that mimic a mane + tail are cool. I also don't get why the unicorn/alicorn don't have their horns, but wings seem to be okay? That looks really inconsistent character design-wise :/
I'm also not sold on the outfits. They all have this boring skirt+shirt combo. Even Rainbow Dash has this really odd-looking skirt with some sporty leggins underneath, what the-?
And Rarity, the fashion designer, sports the same style as Applejack, the farm girl. L A M E ;)

I hope these aren't the final designs and they will at least add the horns.
But I'm also hoping they're going to be dolls of high quality! I can always change the outfit, so that's not that of a biggy to me.

PS: Femmephobia is disgusting. Just because this will be most likely set in a school doesn't mean that it is going to be only about "omg drama drama, I like a boy, I am too fat" subjects.
Relax, give it a chance. If it turns out to be sucky you still have enough time to hate on it *fg*
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Malicieuse on March 02, 2013, 02:06:49 PM
If they can pull it off, this is a really smart move imo.

Fashion dolls are a market in which Hasbro currently has nothing to offer. They have nothing to compete with the likes of Monster High and Bratz, the former of which is doing pretty well in a world where toys are rapidly losing the fight against video games and electronics. Not only that, but they are geared towards a slightly older target. Little girls who fell in love with these six characters have a higher chance of staying loyal to the brand as they move from brushable ponies to collectible dolls. They won't have to lose these friends they have come to know, just see them in a new way--and, at that age, a way they will be able to relate to more--and Hasbro can keep their business for a few more years.
 

Well, Hasbro could always try rebooting "Jem", and give it a slight makeover to make it more modern. Hasbro still has rights to "Jem", right? If so, I don't see why they shouldn't give it a try - Transformers, G.I. Joe and MLP are a great proof that you can take a franchise that's almost thirty years old and still make it popular. So what's stopping them from doing just that with "Jem"? It would work out better than Equestria Girls.

But, whatever...


Because FiM is "in" and already has a strong fanbase with the younger/teenage crowd. I don't think Gem has that. (I never watched Gem myself but...isn't it like very, very eighties?)
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Ice Crystal on March 02, 2013, 02:10:21 PM
If they can pull it off, this is a really smart move imo.

Fashion dolls are a market in which Hasbro currently has nothing to offer. They have nothing to compete with the likes of Monster High and Bratz, the former of which is doing pretty well in a world where toys are rapidly losing the fight against video games and electronics. Not only that, but they are geared towards a slightly older target. Little girls who fell in love with these six characters have a higher chance of staying loyal to the brand as they move from brushable ponies to collectible dolls. They won't have to lose these friends they have come to know, just see them in a new way--and, at that age, a way they will be able to relate to more--and Hasbro can keep their business for a few more years.
 

Well, Hasbro could always try rebooting "Jem", and give it a slight makeover to make it more modern. Hasbro still has rights to "Jem", right? If so, I don't see why they shouldn't give it a try - Transformers, G.I. Joe and MLP are a great proof that you can take a franchise that's almost thirty years old and still make it popular. So what's stopping them from doing just that with "Jem"? It would work out better than Equestria Girls.

But, whatever...


I don't know. They probably want to stick with something familiar. MLP is one of the few products they have that is still doing well. I think in Hasbro's opinion, rebooting something they don't already know kids like would be a lot riskier. Though, there may be a chance for Jem if Equestria Girls does well and Hasbro wants another doll line to compete with the others on the market.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: PinkRosedust on March 02, 2013, 02:19:59 PM
I personally think the faces look bad, not to mention the rest of the design that everyone else has already complained about.

I just can't fathom why Hasbro is doing this. They could have made a completely different line of toys if they wanted to compete with MH. They don't have to ruin My Little PONIES by making them human. Excuse me for judging a book by it's cover, but I'm barely interested in giving this a chance.

There's still a sliver of hope that this isn't true, right?
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Cherry_Sunset on March 02, 2013, 02:25:53 PM
All I'll say on this is that I'm going to give it a chance, but the designs look painfully boring and generic pretty anime-girl looking to me. Just looking at Applejack, I cannot imagine her voice on that character design, it just doesn't say "Applejack" to me. I hope they make some adjustments to these character designs before they decide to do anything with them.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on March 02, 2013, 02:28:48 PM
A lot of us have complained about the quality of the G4 pony line, etc. Quality in the toy, variety in the actual ponies. Not talking blind bags here but heck even blind bags are kinda un-varied if you ask me and some of them the quality is not so good.

So is there anything to suggest this 'doll' line is going to be better than the actual pony toys? If it's mediocre then it's just diluting the brand into something completely different. I think that is where people are worried, as to how much they're going to focus on dolls vs. ponies.

Then the discussion might be if it's BETTER than the ponies then we're loosing the ponies to focus on a doll line?

I have nothing against dolls I collect dolls but I'm not buying dolls just because they have an association with MLP.

Hasbro has tried in the past to compete with Mattel - I've seen Jem brought up but in my opinion as a toy I was never very impressed with the Jem dolls; and nobody seems to remember Maxie - a short run doll line hasbro made to go along with Guess what...a cartoon. Not unlike Jem, they both had short runs as toys or at least short runs in comparison to brands like Barbie or MLP.

I think the concerns and fears people have about this are valid and voicing them doesn't really hurt anything. It's really just something to think about.

If Hasbro turns it's focus to dolls where does that leave ponies? Not saying they can't do both and more power to them if these toys will be awesome and something I want. I will not hesitate to buy them if they're good quality dolls but I've seen some of Hasbros dolls from the past. Frankly speaking they tend to be hit or miss when it comes to dolls and I just worry as to if it's done badly it's just gonna take away from MLP.


Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Catlein on March 02, 2013, 02:30:11 PM
All I'll say on this is that I'm going to give it a chance, but the designs look painfully boring and generic pretty anime-girl looking to me. Just looking at Applejack, I cannot imagine her voice on that character design, it just doesn't say "Applejack" to me. I hope they make some adjustments to these character designs before they decide to do anything with them.

Hmm... I wonder if the VAs from FiM are doing this show as well. And just how separated it will be as a spin-off. Also, if the movie that supposedly cut season 3 short ends up being about this, I am going to be full of sad... D:

Also, I personally don't like the style of the designs which says nothing about them objectively, but the designers also really failed to implement the personality of the characters into the designs. You can't just use colours and cutie mark tattoos to get across the idea that this is X character. For example, Rarity has the plainest outfit of them all, yet she's the fashionista. They couldn't jazz her up a bit with a scarf or cool jewellery? And why no pants? There is absolutely nothing wrong with skirts, but in a group of 6 very different girls, RD and AJ are probably going to be pant/short wearers (and I don't buy the "but a uniform" idea since they obviously aren't wearing the same styles). Or then there's the fact that all the outfits are very similar. Why can't one be wearing a longer skirt and shoes? I won't write off the show entirely, but I am certainly going in very hesitant since I am not liking what I am seeing.

Also, if this is the 30th anniversary celebration of pony, I am going to be very disappointed.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on March 02, 2013, 02:41:46 PM


Also, if this is the 30th anniversary celebration of pony, I am going to be very disappointed.

30 years of pony and our gift from hasbro is teenage human girls with horse ears, short skirts and boots.

I confused  :what:
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: StarlightGaze on March 02, 2013, 02:51:13 PM
I can't see people who are already so invested in ponies welcome this with open arms. If you already like dolls, then this might be great for you. I don't think this is meant for pony fans, but an entirely different demographic, possibly to reel in girls who like dolls into liking ponies too. I just don't understand why bother using MLP when they could use new characters in their doll line.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Shenanigans on March 02, 2013, 03:05:59 PM
I'm willing to give this whole idea a shot as long as it's separate from the FIM series :)
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: StarlightGaze on March 02, 2013, 03:14:46 PM
The more I think about how Hasbro intends this to be MLP's 30th anniversary thing, the more upset I feel about it. It's not really meant for pony fans...
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: STLGusty on March 02, 2013, 03:17:22 PM


I'm pretty sure that with Faust's influence, this whole thing would've worked out much, much, MUCH better.

I'm pretty sure if Lauren had a say, this trainwreck would have never made it off the drawing board.

Nothing personal, you guys, but this Faust worship needs to stop. This brand is owned by Hasbro and Hasbro decides what happens to the brand. Faust successfully revamped what has already been there to begin with, she didn't come up with the idea of MLP on her own and then got ripped off by Hasbro. Also, she left on her own, she wasn't kicked out or anything.

Why not just wait and see what this new franchise will be abaout instead of declaring it a massive fail just because it was obviously designed to compete with other toy company's material.
...

I'd have to agree with Zapper on this...definitely.

Also, I'm not a big doll person - never have been.  When this actually comes out, I'm not sure how my brain will react.  Right now I'm kind of viewing it not necessarily as a true My Little Pony branch (even if it under the My Little Pony namesake).  Even though I'm questioning whether or not I'd actually buy these products/dolls, I don't see anything necessarily wrong with Hasbro branching out and trying to compete in the "doll" market with an already well-established base (well - sort of, lol).  Why not try to capitalize from a business standpoint?

I won't knock the idea, and I won't flip out about it... If I end up not liking it, I simply just won't buy the products or watch that particular show.  On the flip side, I mgiht watch the show and love it...  Time will tell.  I'm willing to see what becomes of it.

(But don't get me wrong, ponies are still number one in my book...)
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: banditpony on March 02, 2013, 03:21:49 PM
I am probably in the minority where I think it could be a potential good thing.

I kind of have doubts that I'd like the show, but I don't want to judge it without seeing it.

This is why I think it has potential to be good: I think it could bring in more traffic and viewers for the main show. (This is just a spin-off, not a replacement). And more viewers could bring more potential fans (of all age groups). Kind of like silly soda pop flavors that are around for a "limited time", they bring in good advertisement for the brand in general-- even if it's a flop or not.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: egyptiondragon on March 02, 2013, 03:41:08 PM
this means most likely they will make pony dolls
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: brightberry on March 02, 2013, 03:46:01 PM
I'm not a big doll person but... there are a few dolls that actually tempt me.  I'll just wait and see.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: ShannonInPonyland on March 02, 2013, 03:56:52 PM
I really can't stand this idea -_-
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Zombelina on March 02, 2013, 04:13:58 PM
PS: Femmephobia is disgusting. Just because this will be most likely set in a school doesn't mean that it is going to be only about "omg drama drama, I like a boy, I am too fat" subjects.
Relax, give it a chance. If it turns out to be sucky you still have enough time to hate on it *fg*

I <3 you, Zapper :inlove:

Also, I personally don't like the style of the designs which says nothing about them objectively, but the designers also really failed to implement the personality of the characters into the designs. You can't just use colours and cutie mark tattoos to get across the idea that this is X character. For example, Rarity has the plainest outfit of them all, yet she's the fashionista. They couldn't jazz her up a bit with a scarf or cool jewellery? And why no pants? There is absolutely nothing wrong with skirts, but in a group of 6 very different girls, RD and AJ are probably going to be pant/short wearers (and I don't buy the "but a uniform" idea since they obviously aren't wearing the same styles). Or then there's the fact that all the outfits are very similar. Why can't one be wearing a longer skirt and shoes? I won't write off the show entirely, but I am certainly going in very hesitant since I am not liking what I am seeing.

Also, if this is the 30th anniversary celebration of pony, I am going to be very disappointed.

They're definitely very "safe", but I can't entirely blame Hasbro for going that road, and keeping them simple and all close to the same look for the first run of the line. Even Mattel wasn't super out there, relatively speaking, with the first MH dolls. And I think I feel like they're rather schoolgirl-uniform-esque not because they are uniforms but rather because the similar skirt + shirt + boots shape unifies the line, while leaving room for personalizing each character (a little). I certainly agree they could've done lots more--but I do like what there is (Fluttershy's puffy skirt, RD's sneaker-boots, Rarity's sleeker-chic A-line skirt plus belt, Applejack's denim). It'll be really interesting to see how the art translates into actual dolls, and whether what character-specific details there are, will be prominent.

Also... I am kinda OCD and I like series of things that match, so I'm sure that's partly why I think it's cute that they're same-but-different :biggrin:

And (not singling anyone out, but just in response to the general sentiment) I truly don't see how this spin-off ruins MLP when isn't replacing MLP. If it DOES replace actual ponies, then yeah, that would suck. I would also think that would suck. A lot. But there's no indication of that happening, so I'm not going to catastrophize.

And if these turn out to be crap, we can all ignore them; if not, we can either ignore them... or enjoy them as well as ponies. I think everybody can coexist. :)
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Summerlycoris on March 02, 2013, 04:20:34 PM
I don't really know about these, the series could be interesting if they keep the varied personalities of the original ponies. As long as they're not reduced from rounded to flat characters and pony stuff keeps being released in tandem, then it could turn out well.
I'll have to see later on if I buy the toys though, I used to collect Barbies years ago (though they're all gone now) and I'm not that interested in picking up another set of human dolls to replace them.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: svleonard on March 02, 2013, 04:28:56 PM
DO NOT WANT.  :mad:
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Ice Crystal on March 02, 2013, 04:30:17 PM
They're definitely very "safe", but I can't entirely blame Hasbro for going that road, and keeping them simple and all close to the same look for the first run of the line. Even Mattel wasn't super out there, relatively speaking, with the first MH dolls. And I think I feel like they're rather schoolgirl-uniform-esque not because they are uniforms but rather because the similar skirt + shirt + boots shape unifies the line, while leaving room for personalizing each character (a little). I certainly agree they could've done lots more--but I do like what there is (Fluttershy's puffy skirt, RD's sneaker-boots, Rarity's sleeker-chic A-line skirt plus belt, Applejack's denim). It'll be really interesting to see how the art translates into actual dolls, and whether what character-specific details there are, will be prominent.

You know, despite all my reflecting on this line, I didn't consider that. Excellent point!

I also forgot that they will probably have different outfits to buy, and hopefully there will be outfit changes in the show (although I would understand if not--there rarely are in cartoons. They do have a fashion designer among them, though).
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Zombelina on March 02, 2013, 04:59:07 PM
I also forgot that they will probably have different outfits to buy, and hopefully there will be outfit changes in the show (although I would understand if not--there rarely are in cartoons. They do have a fashion designer among them, though).

Yeah, that's right! There's so much opportunity for awesome fashion packs... a Designed by Rarity line perhaps? I really hope they take full advantage of the possibilities, even if they keep the characters always in the same simple outfits in the cartoon, which is definitely understandable animation-wise XD It'll be very disappointing if Hasbro stays playing it safe instead of really developing this concept.

(Oh and I just want to note that I think this discussion and critique is awesome, critique is always good! And dislike is always legit... I just don't feel there's any reason for distress :))
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: DazzleKitty on March 02, 2013, 05:06:24 PM
Oh no, I think this is the end of G4 for me. :(  Back exclusively to G1 collecting soon, I fear.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: LadyMoondancer on March 02, 2013, 05:06:33 PM
Yeah, for being "fashion dolls" the fashions are . . . not very inspired.  I really don't think they are going to be able to compete with Monster High if that is representative of the outfits.  (And who knows, maybe they won't be, but that's what they've shown us so far.)   If you look at the original Monster High dolls, their outfits were much more creative and individualized, IMO.

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The second one is like someone said, "Uh, what do girls wear, anyway?  Like, skirts, right?"
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: DazzleKitty on March 02, 2013, 05:11:48 PM
Ya know, I love MH, and if these dolls are anything like MH in terms of being ball-jointed and having new characters, I may be interested. But I don't these to be THE new MLP, ya know? I want ponies to still be made.....new characters mainly. But I cannot lie.....I think they will make pretty dolls if done right. But I don't want this to be  the only MLP line left.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Zombelina on March 02, 2013, 05:21:02 PM
I agree, LadyMoondancer (although there's quite a few boots and miniskirts in the first MH line too ;)) I feel like Monster High is aimed at a slightly older audience than the Equestria Girls, though? (Although I know MH has lots of under-8ish fans too, of course.) Have we seen anything that says what EG's target age group is? To me it seems like it'll closer to the Lalaloopsy age group, a bit older, but not as old as MH. Maybe similar to Disney Fairies' audience?

Ya know, I love MH, and if these dolls are anything like MH in terms of being ball-jointed and having new characters, I may be interested. But I don't these to be THE new MLP, ya know? I want ponies to still be made.....new characters mainly. But I cannot lie.....I think they will make pretty dolls if done right. But I don't want this to be  the only MLP line left.

I don't think it will be (I hope it won't be)... I bet there'll always be demand for cute pony toys :biggrin:
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Wardah on March 02, 2013, 05:55:50 PM
If they can pull it off, this is a really smart move imo.

Fashion dolls are a market in which Hasbro currently has nothing to offer. They have nothing to compete with the likes of Monster High and Bratz, the former of which is doing pretty well in a world where toys are rapidly losing the fight against video games and electronics. Not only that, but they are geared towards a slightly older target. Little girls who fell in love with these six characters have a higher chance of staying loyal to the brand as they move from brushable ponies to collectible dolls. They won't have to lose these friends they have come to know, just see them in a new way--and, at that age, a way they will be able to relate to more--and Hasbro can keep their business for a few more years.
 

Well, Hasbro could always try rebooting "Jem", and give it a slight makeover to make it more modern. Hasbro still has rights to "Jem", right? If so, I don't see why they shouldn't give it a try - Transformers, G.I. Joe and MLP are a great proof that you can take a franchise that's almost thirty years old and still make it popular. So what's stopping them from doing just that with "Jem"? It would work out better than Equestria Girls.

But, whatever...


Because FiM is "in" and already has a strong fanbase with the younger/teenage crowd. I don't think Gem has that. (I never watched Gem myself but...isn't it like very, very eighties?)

While the original Jem is rather dated going from the reruns they were airing on the Hub, the basic concept isn't. I mean what about a girl who is secretly a pop star couldn't work now? They might have to age her down since it seems cartoons about adult characters aren't popular anymore but her age was never an important part of who she was. Hannah Montana had a similar premise to what I think a modern remake of Jem would probably be like.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Babushka on March 02, 2013, 07:47:46 PM

This is taking the Last Unicorn theme to the extreme. I guess the ponies are going to run into Schmendrick and in a terrifying fight with the Red Bull Schmendrick turns the main 6 into humans and sends them to earth or...something like that (hehe).


Be still my heart. If Schmendrick appears again in any form . . .

Erm.

:silly:

Personally, I'm kind 'meh' on the idea. I think FiM is cute, but I don't collect the toys and watch the show rather passively. I'm a little disappointed about the complaints with the dresses. I'm of the impression that it is okay for girls to wear dresses, or not to. It seems silly to think, "oh a tomboy like AJ would never wear dresses!" Heck, I knew a few 4H girls who rocked jean skirts and boots while mucking out pig stalls. Also, a well-written show set in a high school could be a fresh breath of air compared to what we assume might happen.

All this said, if Hasbro wanted to get into the creative doll department, I would prefer a Jem reboot. After all, nearly all of the tween girl shows seem to be about not-so-secret rockstars, so why not Jem?
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Honeycomb on March 02, 2013, 08:30:29 PM
DO NOT WANT.  :mad:


Definitely not. Horrifying.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Lorelei Redfern on March 02, 2013, 09:36:38 PM
DO NOT WANT.  :mad:


Definitely not. Horrifying.

this.

but i will say  that  agian  if people liek and buy them  go for it. i wont  be.   
in my hoenst opionion i just thinkt hat this is  hasbros way of jumpingont he  monster high bandwagon. they  look too MH to me. (nothing agiasn tMH) but heonstly THIS  is the 30th anniversy? MEH!
its like  oh  girls like monster  dolls liets give them pony  dolls hat look  like teen girls.. 

that is NOT a pony toy that is a doll and if that  is  how my littl epony turns out along ith blind bags yeah aftr a few more purchases..  i'm done..
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: egyptiondragon on March 02, 2013, 10:11:20 PM
i will give it a chance
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Loa on March 02, 2013, 10:17:43 PM
I'd like to see them in person!
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Salli on March 02, 2013, 10:27:59 PM
I'd like to see them in person!

Yah, I think most of our conversation here is pretty pointless until we have show and dolls in hand.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: DancingPhoenix on March 02, 2013, 10:41:03 PM
*glances at G1's on shelf* I love you, just the way you are.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: sleepyowl on March 02, 2013, 10:46:55 PM
I can't make any judgements on the show or the toys, but the concept art... I don't really like it at all. I just don't find it very cute and I'm not into their outfits. I don't like them having pony wings and ears but then not having horns.

If this is all there is for the 30th anniversary, that's pretty disappointing to me.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Clipper on March 02, 2013, 11:12:39 PM
going a bit off topic, but JEM was put back on HUB as a test for hasbro to see if it was still sucessful. Hasbro does have plans to make a new JEM line and TV show. Unless "Equestria Girls" is replacing it?  I will ask my friend who works for Hasbro.
If they can pull it off, this is a really smart move imo.

Fashion dolls are a market in which Hasbro currently has nothing to offer. They have nothing to compete with the likes of Monster High and Bratz, the former of which is doing pretty well in a world where toys are rapidly losing the fight against video games and electronics. Not only that, but they are geared towards a slightly older target. Little girls who fell in love with these six characters have a higher chance of staying loyal to the brand as they move from brushable ponies to collectible dolls. They won't have to lose these friends they have come to know, just see them in a new way--and, at that age, a way they will be able to relate to more--and Hasbro can keep their business for a few more years.
 

Well, Hasbro could always try rebooting "Jem", and give it a slight makeover to make it more modern. Hasbro still has rights to "Jem", right? If so, I don't see why they shouldn't give it a try - Transformers, G.I. Joe and MLP are a great proof that you can take a franchise that's almost thirty years old and still make it popular. So what's stopping them from doing just that with "Jem"? It would work out better than Equestria Girls.

But, whatever...


Because FiM is "in" and already has a strong fanbase with the younger/teenage crowd. I don't think Gem has that. (I never watched Gem myself but...isn't it like very, very eighties?)
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Moonracer on March 03, 2013, 01:35:17 AM


I'm pretty sure that with Faust's influence, this whole thing would've worked out much, much, MUCH better.

I'm pretty sure if Lauren had a say, this trainwreck would have never made it off the drawing board.

Nothing personal, you guys, but this Faust worship needs to stop. This brand is owned by Hasbro and Hasbro decides what happens to the brand. Faust successfully revamped what has already been there to begin with, she didn't come up with the idea of MLP on her own and then got ripped off by Hasbro. Also, she left on her own, she wasn't kicked out or anything.

Why not just wait and see what this new franchise will be abaout instead of declaring it a massive fail just because it was obviously designed to compete with other toy company's material.
Why do you think Hasbro keeps on re-inventing MLP instead of letting it die off? To make money. Pushing the brand into a new territory was inevitable.

First of all, I don't think you have to tell me all these things about Faust and her role in the history of the MLP franchise - I already know those things, I've been doing some reading on that and I follow quite a few critical MLP blogs on Tumblr so I'm well aware of the situation. Plus, I know that Faust isn't responsible for the creation of MLP as a whole (Bonnie Zacherle is).

Secondly, my line was taken out of context: in my post I stated that it would be good if they had Lauren Faust as a creative consultant. I mostly said that because, after all, Hasbro's making humanoid versions of the Mane 6 based on Faust's character designs and it's obvious they're still sticking to her style.

Yeah, Faust doesn't work on the show anymore but they could at least commission her to make some humanoid character designs for the Mane 6. I hate to repeat myself again, but if Faust could make these three look awesome:

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Then chances are she'd do pretty much the same for the Mane 6. And again, this isn't to say that I think of Lauren Faust as some sort of omnipotent uber-deity of sorts, no. I'm saying this because I think she's one of the very few people who're willing to apply diversity into their character designs - and we could always use some of that, rather than being stuck with the same-faced clones.

Again, the EG designs aren't THAT terrible. They just feel kinda lazy and uninspired... I mean, I've seen better human!verse ponies at the  Diversity-Is-Magic club on deviantart.

Also when it comes to keeping the property fresh and up to date: it's somewhat commendable that Hasbro's trying to do that. But I'm not sure that creating EG is the right way to do it. True, the designs are cute and all, but this somewhat defies the whole purpose of MLP. Because, after all, what is My Little Pony? A bunch of colorful miniature brushable ponies. Come to think of it, MLPs are technically dolls, or at least they have very doll-like characteristics: you can brush their hair and stylize it, you can play with them in playsets resembling doll houses, and you can even dress them up thanks to pony wear. So... yeah. :P
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Al-1701 on March 03, 2013, 03:29:41 AM
I'm glad other people here thought that they should have brought back JEM and the Holograms to accomplish what it looks like they're trying to accomplish with Equestria Girls.

My stance on the whole thing is this.  If you think the best way to pitch My Little Pony to a new audience is to make them not ponies, then maybe you shouldn't be pitching the brand to this new audience.

Also, many brands have dug their graves by trying to imitate other brands.  If their intent is to compete with Monster High, they have to clear a lot of hurdles to draw customers away from that brand.  I don't think it this failing will hurt My Little Pony as a whole, but Hasbro is gambling a lot on this.

The thing is, Hasbro has a strangle hold on science fiction and fantasy toys in the United States and their damn good at it.  If they want to expand the appeal of the pony brand, why not do what they're good at?

Maybe do what they did with Rescue Bots for Transformers (or the opposite actually.)  Transformers Prime is a dark and violent show clearly meant for ages 10 and up.  Well, that cuts off a big chunk of the customer base.  They make Rescue Bots where the Transformers aren't fighting each other but rather rescuing people.  You now have a kid friendly show to compliment Prime.

I've said this elsewhere, but a better idea would have been to make another My Little Pony series that was a high fantasy adventure series.  Follow a just as likeable cast of different ponies who go on adventures to explore mysteries and fight bad guys.  I'm not saying make it Prime level of dark and violent, but a little more edge to it than Friendship is Magic.  Not every teenage girl is interested in the high school scene, and many like fantasy and adventure.  Cater to that untapped interest rather than trying to push into what is already being done.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: RAMChYLD on March 03, 2013, 04:15:01 AM
Honestly, this is madness. This line is about ponies, not humans. Hasbro... you lost me. Sorry.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: popyduggan on March 03, 2013, 04:48:56 AM
Watch your back Monster High...jk.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Rarityfan2011 on March 03, 2013, 05:38:43 AM
And so things like the human yay on Youtube became canon.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Vintergatan on March 03, 2013, 05:48:16 AM
Hey, I look at it this way - my wallet is still safe :P

I've been disappointed by everything Hasbro has done since G3 so at this point it really doesn't matter much to me, I don't like buying new things anyway.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Starbright on March 03, 2013, 06:12:36 AM
But...but I like *ponies*... I hope they don't completely abandon FiM and the G4 style.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Malicieuse on March 03, 2013, 06:27:33 AM
But...but I like *ponies*... I hope they don't completely abandon FiM and the G4 style.

There is already an entire fourth season being produced. There is nothing that indicates that Equestria Girls will replace FIM in any way. If anything, this spin off shows that G4/FIM is doing really well. (Making this freak out look even more silly.) Ponies aren't gone, this is just a little extra.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Ice Crystal on March 03, 2013, 06:35:10 AM
But...but I like *ponies*... I hope they don't completely abandon FiM and the G4 style.

There is already an entire fourth season being produced. There is nothing that indicates that Equestria Girls will replace FIM in any way. If anything, this spin off shows that G4/FIM is doing really well. (Making this freak out look even more silly.) Ponies aren't gone, this is just a little extra.

Yeah, I think this is really important to remember. In the original article on Equestria Girls from the Toy Fair, a Hasbro exec said that MLP is "top priority brand." So long as the show retains viewers and kids keep buying the toys, ponies are not going to go away, and they certainly won't disappear in favour of human dolls.

If they both do well then that just means more money for Hasbro, and more incentive to continue the line. If Equestria Girls flops then it flops. They tried. The show will end and they'll cease production on the dolls. I don't think that will affect FiM since EG is a spin-off and they will have absolutely nothing to do with each other beyond using the same characters in different forms.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Bergamot on March 03, 2013, 06:37:13 AM
I liked the first image we saw a little better. The pony ears and wings are a little much!

I also agree that the clothing is very cookie cutter. I would expect much more diversity in personal expression from the Ponies. I really do wish they'd taken a hint from Monster high in designing the clothes. The MH girl dolls are indeed "all skirts all the time," but they're all still quite unique.

Monster High is very fashion focused. Perhaps this isn't the goal of EG.

Regardless, I welcome this development in the MLP franchise. The My Little Pony TV show and toy line don't show any signs of stopping, and will continue as Equestria Girls does its own thing. Hasbro is too smart to completely kick Ponies of the equine variety to the curb!
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: cobalte on March 03, 2013, 08:10:43 AM
Definitely seems like Hasbro's answer to MH, though their niche looks to be different and the crowd that enjoy things that are seen as more traditionally 'girly' or 'feminine' (long hair, skirts/dresses, lippy etc).

When I think about how these designs will translate to toys, they all give the options for Hasbro to use methods that cut their costs - having no horns means they can re-use the facial mould for all the pony-humans and either stick wings into the back of the body or just add fabric ones to the outfit. Making these outfits all dresses (combining the t-shirt/skirt combos into one) saves on the work that goes into pants. As for the shoes and stockings I have no doubt these will be plastic (seeing as Hasbro loves it in pony toy clothes). Meanwhile Pinkie and RD have similar length jackets and jewellery being limited to bangles and a hair clip.

I thought about that because I'm somewhat worried that is what Hasbro will do, unless they can use this to deliver a more competitive price they will lose out to other lines having better detailing IMO.

The addition of the 'pony tails' looks like an afterthought with how the skirts cover some of the connections between 'mane' hair and 'tail' hair, the way the hair appears to act when covered by body parts in general and the weird twist in Twilight's pink streaks... almost as if they may have planned to originally have tails and changed it at some point.

I just don't know about this. I like the boots in addition to the bigger lower legs to give the 'hooves' look, and Fluttershy and Pinkie Pie seem the best out of the lot to me.
Applejack looks ok though rather plain (at least they gave her cowboy boots!)
Twilight I don't mind so much, wish they'd given her a different color for the top
Rarity is also an odd one, why boots instead of heels or something? The light blue would look better even paler
Rainbow Dash is a mess. Jacket and shirt, fine, but a pink skirt seems so unlike her character! Hell, I would have been happy with a rainbow one, though that may be slightly clashy. Why does her 'tail' only seem to be in orange and yellow hues? What's with the random decal on the skirt? Looks like they just went to an attempt of sporty but missed the memo about the tomboy personality.

What happened to the 'you can be any sort of girl you like in any way' line of thinking... I guess Hasbro has well and truly thrown this principle, used to develop the Mane 6 characters; out for their toys.

ETA: Also, similar body shape to MH - 'small' breasts (compared to real-world standards), hips wider than the bosom and somewhat skinny waists. If you were hoping for a different body shape, sorry folks, doesn't look like it this time.


I'll still give it a chance, though it leaves me rather confused. This is a very controversial thing to be doing for the 30th Anniversary, I think if this is it for the celebration then a lot of people are going to be sorely disappointed.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on March 03, 2013, 09:23:55 AM
So will Princess Celestia the human be pink skinned or white...Inquiring minds wanna know?
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: josiekat on March 03, 2013, 10:12:24 AM
I will give it exactly one episode. But if they don't meet a little blond girl in school by the name of Megan that becomes one of the gang by the end of the episode, I am done with it. I want to see Megan if this is what they are doing to celebrate 30 years of MLP.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Al-1701 on March 03, 2013, 10:19:46 AM
I will give it exactly one episode. But if they don't meet a little blond girl in school by the name of Megan that becomes one of the gang by the end of the episode, I am done with it. I want to see Megan if this is what they are doing to celebrate 30 years of MLP.
My group is working on that kind of 30th anniversary tribute.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: rtattles on March 03, 2013, 10:23:45 AM
I will give it exactly one episode. But if they don't meet a little blond girl in school by the name of Megan that becomes one of the gang by the end of the episode, I am done with it. I want to see Megan if this is what they are doing to celebrate 30 years of MLP.

Megan will be too old. I want to see her daughter hanging out. her name's Maggie.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Sora on March 03, 2013, 10:42:01 AM
DO NOT WANT.  :mad:


Definitely not. Horrifying.

this.

but i will say  that  agian  if people liek and buy them  go for it. i wont  be.   
Also agreeing with this...

I have seen some human forms of the G4 cast before that I thought looked very nice, but that concept art... Is not one of them. Like some others, I'm thoroughly disappointed to see them all in skirts - Including RD who would look so much better in something else.

This is not what I was hoping for, especially not for the 30th Anniversary.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: babylicketysplit on March 03, 2013, 10:50:15 AM
YUK..... that is all that i can say at the moment...  :( 
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: hathorcat on March 03, 2013, 12:45:29 PM
I agree, LadyMoondancer (although there's quite a few boots and miniskirts in the first MH line too ;)) I feel like Monster High is aimed at a slightly older audience than the Equestria Girls, though? (Although I know MH has lots of under-8ish fans too, of course.) Have we seen anything that says what EG's target age group is? To me it seems like it'll closer to the Lalaloopsy age group, a bit older, but not as old as MH. Maybe similar to Disney Fairies' audience?

Ya know, I love MH, and if these dolls are anything like MH in terms of being ball-jointed and having new characters, I may be interested. But I don't these to be THE new MLP, ya know? I want ponies to still be made.....new characters mainly. But I cannot lie.....I think they will make pretty dolls if done right. But I don't want this to be  the only MLP line left.

I don't think it will be (I hope it won't be)... I bet there'll always be demand for cute pony toys :biggrin:

They said in a release pre Toy Fair that Equestria Girls [whatever it is] was going to be aimed at teenage girls and older.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Rosencrantz on March 03, 2013, 12:49:41 PM
You know, since they're gonna be dolls, that probably explains why they're all the same shape. Cheaper to produce the same body over and over with colour changes, and not have to change the clothing measurements.

Which is a shame, I always liked the anthro pony art that has Pinkie as short and chubby (goes well with bouncey) and Rarity as tall  and elegant.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Tancho on March 03, 2013, 12:51:43 PM
Whenever I see any "art" of the FiM characters humanised it makes me shudder. I personally think they look horrible and whilst I can appreciate that there are fans that like to see cartoon ponies turned human I couldn't think of anything more ugly! They're supposed to be ponies, not humans, isn't that half the fun?
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Moonracer on March 03, 2013, 01:42:41 PM
Which is a shame, I always liked the anthro pony art that has Pinkie as short and chubby (goes well with bouncey) and Rarity as tall  and elegant.

Oooh... I'm glad to learn I'm not the only one who likes the idea of anthro Pinkie being chubby (it's not to say that I don't like other version of human!Pinkies, it's just that that particular version is one of my preffered headcannons). :)
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: ApertureScience on March 03, 2013, 02:17:26 PM
No idea if this has been posted yet (I don't feel like sifting through eight pages), but I found this on KnowYourMeme.  Someone edited it to a slightly more ideal representation. 
Altered version on the left and true version on the right:
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Dare to compare.
(When I saw this pic on a different site, someone pointed out Twilight's man jaw.  Cannot unsee, and do not want.)
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Zombelina on March 03, 2013, 02:37:33 PM
I agree, LadyMoondancer (although there's quite a few boots and miniskirts in the first MH line too ;)) I feel like Monster High is aimed at a slightly older audience than the Equestria Girls, though? (Although I know MH has lots of under-8ish fans too, of course.) Have we seen anything that says what EG's target age group is? To me it seems like it'll closer to the Lalaloopsy age group, a bit older, but not as old as MH. Maybe similar to Disney Fairies' audience?

Ya know, I love MH, and if these dolls are anything like MH in terms of being ball-jointed and having new characters, I may be interested. But I don't these to be THE new MLP, ya know? I want ponies to still be made.....new characters mainly. But I cannot lie.....I think they will make pretty dolls if done right. But I don't want this to be  the only MLP line left.

I don't think it will be (I hope it won't be)... I bet there'll always be demand for cute pony toys :biggrin:

They said in a release pre Toy Fair that Equestria Girls [whatever it is] was going to be aimed at teenage girls and older.

Thanks, hathorcat! Hmm, I would not have guessed that at all. They'd best pay serious attention to the execution and detailing, then, if they're setting themselves up to compete directly with MH for the older crowd's attention. Like lots of others have said, the current look of the designs falls short in direct comparison because of the simplicity.

Basically, my 8 year old self is squeeing, but my 12 year old self would not be swayed from MH. Fortunately, my mid-20s self does not have to choose, and can love and have both! XD
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Bergamot on March 03, 2013, 02:42:51 PM
Monster High has a "punk rock" edge to it, and I think that it appeals to a specific subset of early teen girls. I agree, Zombelina: As a kid, I wouldn't have given up MH for these Equestria Girls.

It's possible that, even though going for the same gender and age group, Equestria Girls aims for a specific type of girl. The girls who would want these dolls don't shop at Hot Topic. They shop at Forever 21.

(Excuse the pigeonholing... Speculation is hard to resist!)
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Malicieuse on March 03, 2013, 02:43:37 PM
No idea if this has been posted yet (I don't feel like sifting through eight pages), but I found this on KnowYourMeme.  Someone edited it to a slightly more ideal representation. 
Altered version on the left and true version on the right:
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Dare to compare.
(When I saw this pic on a different site, someone pointed out Twilight's man jaw.  Cannot unsee, and do not want.)

First people complain that they are too "pretty /girly" and all have the same bodytype and now people complain about Twilight having a "man jaw"?
What the...
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Rosencrantz on March 03, 2013, 02:46:01 PM

First people complain that they are too "pretty /girly" and all have the same bodytype and now people complain about Twilight having a "man jaw"?
What the...

Ehhh. Girls are always wrong in some way. It's society's Thing.

Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: ApertureScience on March 03, 2013, 02:56:12 PM
First people complain that they are too "pretty /girly" and all have the same bodytype and now people complain about Twilight having a "man jaw"?
What the...

*shrugs* I don't know.  There's a big possibility that the real issue is that the angle that we're looking at her in is making her look unattractive.  Their heads have a shape similar to that of Monster High, and the complainers want an anime shape.  From the look of things, anyway.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: LadyMoondancer on March 03, 2013, 02:57:05 PM
I'm not seeing the "man jaw".

But I can't stop staring at Twilight's hair and wondering what the heck it looks like from the back.  "Oh yes, I cut the left half of it at waist length and let the right half grow down to the floor!"  Uh . . .

I think they are going to have to amp up the "fashion forward" and, frankly, the sexiness if they want to appeal to teenage or even preteen girls.  This is one of the reasons I think tying My Little Pony to a fashion doll is rather silly.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Rosencrantz on March 03, 2013, 02:58:36 PM

But I can't stop staring at Twilight's hair and wondering what the heck it looks like from the back.  "Oh yes, I cut the left half of it at waist length and let the right half grow down to the floor!"  Uh . . .


I'm really curious about the back too. I can't seem to picture anything that looks good.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Catlein on March 03, 2013, 03:02:42 PM
No idea if this has been posted yet (I don't feel like sifting through eight pages), but I found this on KnowYourMeme.  Someone edited it to a slightly more ideal representation. 
Altered version on the left and true version on the right:
visitors can't see pics , please register or login

Dare to compare.
(When I saw this pic on a different site, someone pointed out Twilight's man jaw.  Cannot unsee, and do not want.)

First people complain that they are too "pretty /girly" and all have the same bodytype and now people complain about Twilight having a "man jaw"?
What the...

I'm liking the edited version a lot better myself. The giant hair won't work with characters who are going to be moving around.

As for the man jaw, concur on the women just can't do things right. But also, I think the original drawing was just off-model for the style that they are trying to emulate. That's why it seems a bit weird. In the edited version, you have the very rounded, young anime face that matches the eyes and such. So I see less man jaw, more face structure that doesn't fit with art style.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: rayedelsol on March 03, 2013, 04:28:49 PM
I'm not going to be able to catch up to 9 pages of opinions, but I thought I'd put mine in.

I think these are cute. Some of the art isn't the best... like the modified Twilight Sparkle better, but I like this idea. If they make dolls like this, I am in so much trouble.....
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Foxtale on March 03, 2013, 04:47:10 PM
I still reserve judgement until we hear from Hasbro but I can believe these are more real than the last set of images we saw. It really bugs me how they are not human but also not ponies. I wish they would just make a new series instead of a pony spinoff. As I said before ill still reserve full judgement although I'm definately not sold on the idea ;p
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Suineder on March 03, 2013, 04:59:31 PM
Can't lie, this gives me a bad feeling right in the pit of my stomach.

But I will give Equestria Girls the benefit of the doubt. I'm not expecting terribly much, but here's looking forward.
And I'll probably get a Fluttershy doll anyway. I just wish she had a longer skirt.

Still, it's a spinoff. Ponies will still be around, not to mention it is kind of fun to watch the usual people on some pony image site freak out.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Violet CLM on March 03, 2013, 05:33:53 PM
I don't know if I'd watch this -- all comes down to the writing quality -- but I do like the designs overall. The cutie marks look really weird on the cheeks, but otherwise, they're cute. Also the outfits are so detailed there's a lot of room for people to experiment in designing their own, which is a plus.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: StarlightGaze on March 03, 2013, 05:43:48 PM
Well, I'll say this again, but I think Equestria Girls is for girls who are already interested in collecting dolls, because what I've seen so far is that MLP fans who don't collect dolls don't look like they really want to start now with this. I don't know if the demographic is big enough for EG to be a huge hit.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Pinkie21 on March 03, 2013, 05:55:00 PM
No.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Honey_Muffin on March 03, 2013, 06:08:40 PM
Meh, I dunno what to think about Equestria Girls.
Though I do like that new pic of them as opposed to that one that was leaked online a while back...
Guess we'll have to wait and see how this goes.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Sugar on March 03, 2013, 06:11:32 PM
I've seen (and alas, cannot unsee) various, er, variations of the Mane 6 anthropomorphized (and on eBay, of all places), and I'm frankly a smidge worried about how some of what's already floating around out there might negatively impact this venture...

That's my bit.  I'm not much of a doll fancier, so sink or swim, the EG line ultimately holds little interest for me.

But Hasbro, just bring back G1s... please?  But make mine ponies!

(P.S.:  Whichever pony of y'all who said it'd be like turning Transformers into talking plants all of a sudden... :lmao:)
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Saber-Toothed Crow on March 03, 2013, 06:29:25 PM
I'm really undecided on how I feel about this. My first reaction is eww.... no. But I'll most likely give it a try.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Summer-blade on March 03, 2013, 06:41:04 PM
merp...I donno about this I don't really... Alicorn Twilight carrying over into this and everyone in short skirts....little nit picy things I know but ....I don't know I'll try to be open minded but I'm not impressed thus far
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: NoDivision on March 03, 2013, 07:56:56 PM

But I can't stop staring at Twilight's hair and wondering what the heck it looks like from the back.  "Oh yes, I cut the left half of it at waist length and let the right half grow down to the floor!"  Uh . . .


I'm really curious about the back too. I can't seem to picture anything that looks good.

Am I missing something here? Her hair looks perfectly normal to me...

ecit: Oh, I see, the tail isn't actually separate for any of them it's supposed to just be an extension of their hair?  weird. I Mean if they have ears, and wings... why not just give them tails?
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Sunset on March 03, 2013, 09:41:45 PM

But I can't stop staring at Twilight's hair and wondering what the heck it looks like from the back.  "Oh yes, I cut the left half of it at waist length and let the right half grow down to the floor!"  Uh . . .


I'm really curious about the back too. I can't seem to picture anything that looks good.

Am I missing something here? Her hair looks perfectly normal to me...

ecit: Oh, I see, the tail isn't actually separate for any of them it's supposed to just be an extension of their hair?  weird. I Mean if they have ears, and wings... why not just give them tails?

I suspect that it has to do with manufacturing.  They think it would be too hard to give dolls real tails?  I also suspect that all wings will be fabric and attached to the clothes rather than to the doll itself.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Argentum-Zeena on March 03, 2013, 09:47:26 PM
If the show is going to be a typical high-school scenario, you can count me out. As for the dolls, I most likely won't be getting them since I really don't care for their designs, but if they're really nice quality maybe.

I think, like others have said, if Hasbro wants to compete in the fashion doll market they should make an entirely different franchise.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: stopxmotion on March 03, 2013, 09:51:31 PM
Eww! What the heck is Hasbro doing to MLP now!???

I also need to know why Twilight has giant wings..?
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: egyptiondragon on March 03, 2013, 10:28:55 PM
Eww! What the heck is Hasbro doing to MLP now!???

I also need to know why Twilight has giant wings..?
because she is now an alicorn and they feel the need for them to have just wings and no horns O.o
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: stopxmotion on March 03, 2013, 11:29:54 PM
Eww! What the heck is Hasbro doing to MLP now!???

I also need to know why Twilight has giant wings..?
because she is now an alicorn and they feel the need for them to have just wings and no horns O.o

Oh, I guess this happened in the show? I have only seen the first season.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Valerie on March 03, 2013, 11:34:50 PM
In my opinion Hasbro wants to make this because all the fandom.

I have saw a lot of fan´s drawings of humanized ponies.

So, Hasbro thought, "if they like to draw this, they would love human dolls inspired in the ponies"

Now we don´t like this (I included, I love ponies, the new show scares me, if they decide to make only EG the next years?? I want pony toys!!), but I know that 90 % of the fans will buy dolls of their favourite characters when they are on sale  :lol:  :P


Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: andibgoode on March 04, 2013, 02:33:03 AM
I'm not overly keen on the designs as shown there but I may give it a chance. FiM is one of the few cartoons I actually actively watch so we'll see how I feel in the future...

PS: Femmephobia is disgusting. Just because this will be most likely set in a school doesn't mean that it is going to be only about "omg drama drama, I like a boy, I am too fat" subjects.
Relax, give it a chance. If it turns out to be sucky you still have enough time to hate on it *fg*

Yes!!!


While the original Jem is rather dated going from the reruns they were airing on the Hub, the basic concept isn't. I mean what about a girl who is secretly a pop star couldn't work now? They might have to age her down since it seems cartoons about adult characters aren't popular anymore but her age was never an important part of who she was. Hannah Montana had a similar premise to what I think a modern remake of Jem would probably be like.

Ha! I can't believe I never thought of the Jem and Hannah Montana connection before! :huh:
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: hathorcat on March 04, 2013, 03:55:37 AM
I agree, LadyMoondancer (although there's quite a few boots and miniskirts in the first MH line too ;)) I feel like Monster High is aimed at a slightly older audience than the Equestria Girls, though? (Although I know MH has lots of under-8ish fans too, of course.) Have we seen anything that says what EG's target age group is? To me it seems like it'll closer to the Lalaloopsy age group, a bit older, but not as old as MH. Maybe similar to Disney Fairies' audience?

Ya know, I love MH, and if these dolls are anything like MH in terms of being ball-jointed and having new characters, I may be interested. But I don't these to be THE new MLP, ya know? I want ponies to still be made.....new characters mainly. But I cannot lie.....I think they will make pretty dolls if done right. But I don't want this to be  the only MLP line left.

I don't think it will be (I hope it won't be)... I bet there'll always be demand for cute pony toys :biggrin:

They said in a release pre Toy Fair that Equestria Girls [whatever it is] was going to be aimed at teenage girls and older.

Thanks, hathorcat! Hmm, I would not have guessed that at all. They'd best pay serious attention to the execution and detailing, then, if they're setting themselves up to compete directly with MH for the older crowd's attention. Like lots of others have said, the current look of the designs falls short in direct comparison because of the simplicity.

Basically, my 8 year old self is squeeing, but my 12 year old self would not be swayed from MH. Fortunately, my mid-20s self does not have to choose, and can love and have both! XD

Yup I agree - its too cutsie wootsie for it to take MHs cooler and trendier market. And it seems a weird product for this market at all but you cant deny MHs stellar success I guess and you can bet Hasbro want a bite of that apple.

But as Bergamot I have a feeling these are for the same age market but for a different sub section of that market.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Evening_Moonstone on March 04, 2013, 05:47:07 AM
I've done MLP cosplay (obviously humanizing the characters), but I just don't like the designs they picked.  IMO, Rainbow Dash and Applejack should NOT be in miniskirts.  Heck, I don't see why any of them would be in miniskirts except maybe Pinkie Pie.  A friend of mine cosplays Fluttershy and wears capri pants ("If she's taking care of animals all day, she's not wearing a skirt").  I cosplay Twilight Sparkle and I wear a longer skirt, like an office employee or librarian.

The one thing I love about MLP cosplay in particular is that everyone can creatively decide what they think a human version of a character would look like - and there's lots of variety, while still identifiable as the characters.  If there are official human versions, part of me worries that will stifle the creativity in the costumes and they'll be less open to interpretation.

But the brony communities I've seen seem to hate this direction (even though there is lots of artwork of the ponies as people).  I honestly haven't seen too many people delighted with this new idea.  I know that MLP's purpose is to sell toys, but I don't think ponies ought to be humans "for reals".  If it's fanmade stuff, cool.  But as an official direction for the line, I think it's silly.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on March 04, 2013, 07:09:36 AM
If the show is going to be a typical high-school scenario, you can count me out.

All the teenage scenario's I've witnessed over the years in cartoons and/or tv programs eventually deal with things like dating/boyfriends/proms/drugs/bullying/sex, etc. etc. Nothing wrong with having good stories about those subjects just saying that is the reality.

I'm curious, if they really are gonna focus on teens and adults then what kind of story lines are they going to be doing with the pony-humans? Or at least what exactly is going to be more adult and teen focused in this new show and it's story line?

Just turning them into humans doesn't make the show teen or adult.

Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Archer on March 04, 2013, 07:14:14 AM

Just turning them into humans doesn't make the show teen or adult.



^This.

I really want to know where it is exactly they're trying to take this story wise. Getting over the designs for a moment, what exactly are they going to be doing that'll make it more enjoyable for teens? Are human/pony hybrids really the best way to go about this or would a new IP have been the way to go? I think at this point it's obvious Hasbro want to take away some of the success of MH, but I'm really curious to know what plot is going with this.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Ice Crystal on March 04, 2013, 07:32:58 AM
I think "teen" was the wrong word for them to use because it makes people imagine kids 13+ and I don't believe companies attempt to market fashion dolls to anyone older than 13 these days (exception being toy collectors of all ages). "Tween" was probably a better word for them to use, since that falls in the 8 - 12 market, the age group that young MLP fans will be graduating into, though I guess "teen" sounds cooler and edgier. It doesn't sound like Equestria Girls is going to be a teen drama cartoon like some are saying, and while I'm sure it will handle topics slightly more mature than those on FiM and on par with the older target age group, I doubt that a channel like The Hub is going to edge into subjects like sex or drugs. It wouldn't fit in with the rest of their programming.

That said, they may start a late-night segment geared towards older kids, sort of like what Teen Nick was before it became its own channel. I'm not sure though, since if they were I imagine we would have heard about it by now.

I could be wrong. Maybe they totally plan for Pinkie to be dealing "candy" behind the bleachers.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: StarlightGaze on March 04, 2013, 07:48:36 AM
In my opinion Hasbro wants to make this because all the fandom.

I have saw a lot of fan´s drawings of humanized ponies.

So, Hasbro thought, "if they like to draw this, they would love human dolls inspired in the ponies"

Now we don´t like this (I included, I love ponies, the new show scares me, if they decide to make only EG the next years?? I want pony toys!!), but I know that 90 % of the fans will buy dolls of their favourite characters when they are on sale  :lol:  :P




Actually, I visit pony image sites frequently, where all the MLP fanart is posted, and the majority of the fandom does NOT like these versions. It's mostly the skin colors, the clothes, the lack of horns, and because they made Applejack and Rainbow Dash too girly.

When the first version of these girls were leaked, Bronies absolutely HATED it. The new version didn't have quite as much hate because they have more pony parts, but I highly doubt Bronies are going to touch this franchise.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: PonyAddictedDad on March 04, 2013, 08:10:22 AM
Seems to me like a remake of Mew Mew Power
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: U2QueenBee on March 04, 2013, 08:57:28 AM
Agree on all the points people have made about lack of diversity in terms of body shapes, clothing styles, etc.  It will certainly be interesting to see how male Bronies react to this, as it will be even harder to avoid the implications of embracing the feminine if/when the characters are shaped like human girls.  /humourlessfeministmodeoff

Also, do they actually still have tails or do they just have reeeeally long hair?  I can't tell from that promo pic.  Some of them seem separate (Rainbow Dash, for example) but then others look like one big joined-up swath of hair (like Applejack.)  And why wings and ears but no horns?  My ancient Glory does not approve.

For the 30th anniversary I'd have liked to have them do, I don't know, G4/FiM of the original six, or some of the more popular ponies across generations - heck, we could give them some metrics on that just from our derbies and polls alone!
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Tirac on March 04, 2013, 09:18:35 AM
They're cute but I stick by what I said to my friend a couple days ago.
If Hasbro wants humans in MLP, just bring back the Williams kids.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Ice Crystal on March 04, 2013, 09:32:33 AM
Also, do they actually still have tails or do they just have reeeeally long hair?  I can't tell from that promo pic.  Some of them seem separate (Rainbow Dash, for example) but then others look like one big joined-up swath of hair (like Applejack.)  And why wings and ears but no horns?  My ancient Glory does not approve.

Really long hair, and the "tails" are sectioned off in ponytails. As someone else mentioned (I think it was either here or on tumblr), it seems to have been added as an afterthought. Some you can see quite clearly, like Applejack's, while others, like RD and Twilight, were snuck in and don't quite connect.

I'm really hoping the horns are added later. Although I'm gonna guess that the unicorns will channel their magic through their hands or, maybe, a wand that looks like a unicorn horn.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Wardah on March 04, 2013, 10:01:50 AM
Maybe they are afraid horns will look too "demonic"?
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: StarlightGaze on March 04, 2013, 10:17:05 AM
I thought the lack of horns may mess up their hairline as dolls or something.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: hellapostalia on March 04, 2013, 10:26:24 AM
Maybe they totally plan for Pinkie to be dealing "candy" behind the bleachers.

This mental image made my day. Can't you hear her?
"You know you want some candy. You know you want some candy, BIGTIME!"
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Radiance on March 04, 2013, 11:13:28 AM
Huge do not want for me! This whole thing makes me sad and a little nauseous. It's wrong on so many levels. I just   :sad:
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Argentum-Zeena on March 04, 2013, 01:56:32 PM

All the teenage scenario's I've witnessed over the years in cartoons and/or tv programs eventually deal with things like dating/boyfriends/proms/drugs/bullying/sex, etc. etc. Nothing wrong with having good stories about those subjects just saying that is the reality.

Oh, no, I'm not saying such shows are bad, just that they're not my cup of tea! I apologize if I came off as if talking down about teen dramas.



I wonder how the hair will look on dolls. I'd imagine the tail look wouldn't work as well in real life.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: michelle53 on March 04, 2013, 03:40:21 PM
 :toot:

And now I'm going to walk away. 
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on March 04, 2013, 03:46:55 PM

All the teenage scenario's I've witnessed over the years in cartoons and/or tv programs eventually deal with things like dating/boyfriends/proms/drugs/bullying/sex, etc. etc. Nothing wrong with having good stories about those subjects just saying that is the reality.

Oh, no, I'm not saying such shows are bad, just that they're not my cup of tea! I apologize if I came off as if talking down about teen dramas.


Oh no, I never meant to imply you said anything wrong, just sort of discussing what they(hasbro) mean by teen/adult. No, never thought you said anything wrong at all :) Just more wondering at they're concept and where they are going with this new program idea.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Galactica on March 04, 2013, 05:02:39 PM
Okay- so this is the new updated photo of the equestria girls?  So they are not in fact, human, but they have ears and wings and things (possibly tails ?)  That doesn't make a lot of sense if they were transformed to humans to come to the human world and go to human high school?  Guess it doesn't matter.  I am wondering how these will translate to dolls-  pretty disappointed with the outfits, but they might not actually look like that...

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Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: rearing_palomino164 on March 04, 2013, 05:26:37 PM
I don't find them really appealing.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: HawaiianRain on March 04, 2013, 06:09:43 PM
They don't have tails. Their hair is made long to also represent their tails. This way Hasbro gets the 'get out of jail' free card on trying to figure out how to attach a 'haired' tail to a doll body.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Shy Violet on March 04, 2013, 06:30:59 PM
I don't really like the idea of humanizing ponies and I really hate this concept art so far. My 5 year old daughter doesn't like them either. Maybe they'll look better as dolls, time will tell. As far as competing with MH, I don't think they have a chance. MH are so detailed and edgy, these are totally boring and I don't see how they could possibly appeal to teens or even tweens. They look to me like something the younger aged girls could be interested in. 
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Pinkie21 on March 04, 2013, 06:32:07 PM
The problem that I have with this whole thing is that, it's no longer My Little Pony.  This is My Little...People.  I am, frankly, disappointed by this decision to make this line.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Rika_of_Thunder on March 04, 2013, 06:45:24 PM
Bleh, those human designs are really generic looking. I really dislike how they changed Pinkie, Dash, and AJ's eyes, looks like they were trying to make them "sexier" or something. Also having them all in near identical clothes (super short skirts and knee high...boots? Shoes? What even are some of those) irks me as well.

Not to mention its just a really stupid concept to revolve an entire show around. I mean, I could see just an hour long special or something, but an entire series? Part of me thinks their trying to cash in on the Monster High craze or something.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Babushka on March 04, 2013, 06:54:07 PM
:toot:

And now I'm going to walk away. 

 :lmao:
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: sailorstitch on March 05, 2013, 07:30:32 AM
Seems to me like a remake of Mew Mew Power

Now that you mention it... you're right. It's like Tokyo Mew Mew/Mew Mew Power, but in reverse! In stead of going from human to animals, their animals turning into humans. Now if the EG have super powers they use to save the world like the Mew Mews do... THEN I might watch it.

sailorstitch
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: OctoberFlash on March 05, 2013, 07:43:52 AM
I don't know about anyone else, but I'm really indifferent to this, haha. xD I figure if it's good, it's good! I'll watch it, if i like it then yay, if I don't, then.. I don't watch it. :P It's a "spinoff" after all, which means it has no effect towards the original.. it's something else entirely.

I mean, worst case, if it's bad, we can all ignore it and go back to watching the ponies we like. c: no sense in wasting time on hating it. If it's really bad, then it'll flop, and it'll go away. xD

I guess i'm just saying I don't understand some of the "omg nooooo this is awful they ruined ponies forever" reactions. xD I mean, I'd prefer them stay ponies, but they could've done something worse - they could have taken the main show and changed it. Season 4 could have been the ponies changing into humans... now that might bother me a bit. But this thing here is just a spinoff. c:

It's like Pokemon Mystery Dungeon. That was a spinoff from the original Pokemon games... and a lot of people didn't like it because "omg noooo the pokemon talk that's WRONG". But it actually wasn't that bad, and it didn't change anything about the original games. Pokemon went on with Diamond/Pearl, no bad changes there, while Pokemon Mystery Dungeon went its own separate way. I feel like this "Equestria Girls" thing will end similarly.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: josiekat on March 05, 2013, 08:22:11 AM
Seems to me like a remake of Mew Mew Power

Now that you mention it... you're right. It's like Tokyo Mew Mew/Mew Mew Power, but in reverse! In stead of going from human to animals, their animals turning into humans. Now if the EG have super powers they use to save the world like the Mew Mews do... THEN I might watch it.

sailorstitch


^This. I love Tokyo Mew Mew! *points to avitar* lol
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Galactica on March 05, 2013, 09:45:28 AM
I wouldn't get too worked up about it- it won't have anything to do with the MLP cartoon or toys-  just an off-shoot.   I figure if the toys come out cute, then yay! If they look stupid- it won't be that hard to ignore them.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Luxrayx on March 05, 2013, 09:50:02 AM
I like the art. I want a doll. I'm just sad about them making humans to celebrate 30 years of ponies :(
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: CottonTALE on March 05, 2013, 11:03:02 AM
I'll be happy if they go with a Blythe-style look to it (like the Neo-blythes.)

Hasbro does own the Blythe line now, so it's not a bad outlook onto it.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Galactica on March 05, 2013, 11:06:35 AM
I'll be happy if they go with a Blythe-style look to it (like the Neo-blythes.)

Hasbro does own the Blythe line now, so it's not a bad outlook onto it.

That seems like a reasonable possibility!  Whatever they do- I am curious as to the outcome.  Wonder when we'll see them?
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Malicieuse on March 05, 2013, 12:39:33 PM
I'll be happy if they go with a Blythe-style look to it (like the Neo-blythes.)

Hasbro does own the Blythe line now, so it's not a bad outlook onto it.

That seems like a reasonable possibility!  Whatever they do- I am curious as to the outcome.  Wonder when we'll see them?

I believe there will be some kind of official reveal at comiccon. : )
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: BerryPunch on March 07, 2013, 12:25:38 PM
*sigh*
When I first heard about these, I was like
nopenopenopenope
Hasbro, please...
please stop  :shocked:

It's awful
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Flitter on March 07, 2013, 06:59:25 PM
Right now I really don't like the Equestria Girls idea at all. I'll watch the first episode when it comes out to see what it's about and am a little curious about what the dolls will look like but these designs don't make me optimistic about liking it. I'm honestly only really concerned that I'll dislike the dolls and they will take over the My Little Pony space on retailer's toy shelves. I can ignore a show well enough if I don't like it but I don't want real MLP toys getting shoved out by Equestria Girls dolls.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: rosierjay on March 07, 2013, 07:07:06 PM
I'm probably in the minority here, but I think they're cute.  There are a few things I would change though:
-Outfits are too similar.  Variety needed, especially in Rarity's department.  We all know that she doesn't do everyday fashion.  Then again, there's also a possibility that the clothes style is following a uniform policy...
-If wings are there, horns need to be too.  Massive "duh!" there.
-Lipstick.  Get rid of it.  It isn't doing them any favors (especially not Rainbow Dash or Applejack) and not all girls are into that crap.

Otherwise, very cute.  It will never, ever replace ponies in my heart but I am interested to see where it will go.
totally agree with you here!
need more pants and less knee high boots. but i do agree with you on all the other fronts too.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: saply on March 07, 2013, 07:07:25 PM
I wonder if Katy Perry will sing the theme song?
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: rosierjay on March 07, 2013, 07:07:55 PM
I wonder if Katy Perry will sing the theme song?
0.o? is she famous?
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: ZennaBug on March 07, 2013, 07:28:24 PM
I'm interested to see what they look like.  I'll reserve judgement until I've seen them.  They have potential to be cute though!

I wonder if Katy Perry will sing the theme song?

*shudder*  I hope not.  She just drives me bonkers.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: MilkyTaroMochi on March 07, 2013, 07:59:07 PM
I wonder if Katy Perry will sing the theme song?
0.o? is she famous?
Pretty famous, especially because of her [infamous] song " I Kissed a Girl (And I Liked It)" and "California Girls" (which the Hub made an MLP parody of.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTPqjKk_xCo ;D )
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: hathorcat on March 08, 2013, 02:51:25 AM
Same article source...logo?

https://www.nytsyn.com/images/photos/930265.html

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Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on March 08, 2013, 06:19:13 AM
Same article source...logo?

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An undated handout photo of Hasbro's Equestria Girls, an extension to the company's My Little Pony brand. To Hasbro, there is no one too young or too old to play with a Transformers robot, watch a Transformers television show or play a Transformers video game. (Handout via The New York Times) -- NO SALES; FOR EDITORIAL USE ONLY WITH STORY SLUGGED HASBRO TRANSFORMERS BY GREGORY SCHMIDT. ALL OTHER USE PROHIBITED. - XNYT101

LOL, weird...

To be honest, that logo is kinda hideous. This is nothing against Equestria Girls, the design just looks really cluttered to me. Hasbro, you guys are slipping and I know you can do better than that! Something about the logo just looks off.

Well, then again the more I look at it the more it comes across exactly what Equestria Girls is gonna be, something trying to attach itself to My Little Pony that really doesn't have anything to do with Pony. Jez, you can see that in the logo.

And I'm kinda looking again and the more I look at it, something is not right with the N, in Pony.

Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: achab1984 on March 08, 2013, 06:33:42 AM
I had to laugh when I saw the Logo. The girls sign is hanging on the pony one........????? OK????????
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Galactica on March 08, 2013, 09:06:02 AM
Making a logo is pretty tough work actually...

I agree that the logo seems to solidify that the Equestria Girls really are just a spin off and entirely unrelated to MLP.  You'd think that would calm everyone down, but I doubt it will.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on March 08, 2013, 10:09:45 AM
Making a logo is pretty tough work actually...

I agree that the logo seems to solidify that the Equestria Girls really are just a spin off and entirely unrelated to MLP.  You'd think that would calm everyone down, but I doubt it will.

I've been designing logos and signs for customers for over 20 years so I know how difficult it is.

Personally I'm pretty calm about it, but since I do logo design and I have customers come in every day and ask me to help them with logo designs I guess my critique can be taken the wrong way. So people can either take it or leave it if they don't like what I say about the logo, this is just my opinion on what I see.

With the addition of the EQ design to the MLP design it makes it more noticable that the N is bigger, causing the O to look really small.

From my point of view the whole reason the N was made bigger in the redesign was to fill in that empty space created by the Y and the curl of it under the N. Making the N bigger filled in that empty space that would have existed.

Now with the addition of the EQ to that logo, the N now looks weirdly huge and it makes all the letters in pony look a little jumbled.

Again, that's just what I see persoally. I'd adjust the N, that is just what I would do if I was designing it.

Problem is they probably don't want to change the MLP logo, but since they're already changing it by adding the EQ part, you'd think they would have done more adjustments than just toss the EQ up on it.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Galactica on March 08, 2013, 10:14:35 AM
You are right-  I didn't really notice it before but the N looks weird.

Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: scarletjul on March 08, 2013, 01:55:07 PM
The logo is ok; I still don't like this idea but I'll give it a spin.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Mirnyj on March 08, 2013, 03:19:50 PM
Blech, says I.  :razz:
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Sunshine on March 09, 2013, 06:08:56 PM
Guh-ross.

No thanks at all.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: TrixieStix on March 09, 2013, 10:00:07 PM
I'm interested to see what they look like.  I'll reserve judgement until I've seen them.  They have potential to be cute though!

I wonder if Katy Perry will sing the theme song?

*shudder*  I hope not.  She just drives me bonkers.

I'm interested to see what the end product will be!  I'm optimistic and will hope for more variety in the fashions between each character, it could be fun.  I'll have to reserve judgement until we can see the product aired for the first time and the toys on the shelves. :) I'd totally want a Trixie doll.  :lol:

I was a KP fan at first but now....>< ditto! So I'd hope the theme song wasn't by her...... ^^;
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Roseprincess1 on March 09, 2013, 10:33:02 PM
i;m not even sure what im looking at? :blink:
what IS this?
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Kobold on March 09, 2013, 11:30:04 PM
 :blink: Weeell that's surprising, but you never know... toys companies seems utterly incapable to make dolls exactly like their concept art, for better or worse. The actual dolls may turn out very cute.

For the record, I think keeping their colors looks strange but it's the right thing to do - there's no other way to avoid the huge potential problem of who-is-what race and all. And I think everyone agrees the outfits could use some improvements.

What I do worry about is the show that's supposed to come out of this. It's going to be hard to make something interesting out a school kid setting, it's sooooo common...  I follow the webisodes of MH, Bratzillas and Novi Stars and I cringe at the obsession with fashion and boys. It's boring AND poor values for the kids. At least the Lalaloopsy series seems to stay away from this, but they aren't entertaining...


Which makes me think, do we know if it's supposed to be an actual TV series or just little 2-3 minutes webisodes thing?
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Wind_Whistler on March 10, 2013, 12:53:57 AM
Hasbro is now a joke...that is all.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: hathorcat on March 10, 2013, 03:37:33 AM
:blink: Weeell that's surprising, but you never know... toys companies seems utterly incapable to make dolls exactly like their concept art, for better or worse. The actual dolls may turn out very cute.

For the record, I think keeping their colors looks strange but it's the right thing to do - there's no other way to avoid the huge potential problem of who-is-what race and all. And I think everyone agrees the outfits could use some improvements.

What I do worry about is the show that's supposed to come out of this. It's going to be hard to make something interesting out a school kid setting, it's sooooo common...  I follow the webisodes of MH, Bratzillas and Novi Stars and I cringe at the obsession with fashion and boys. It's boring AND poor values for the kids. At least the Lalaloopsy series seems to stay away from this, but they aren't entertaining...


Which makes me think, do we know if it's supposed to be an actual TV series or just little 2-3 minutes webisodes thing?

I could be remembering incorrectly but I am reasonably certain what we are first getting is a movie. The movie Hasbro confirmed for the line back at the toy fair was for the new IP which is Equestria Girls. Although it could be about how the ponies become humans rather than just being about EGs. That we certainly wont know for a while.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Al-1701 on March 10, 2013, 06:50:34 PM
The latest rumor is Spike will be a dog.  There are also picture of canine Spike floating around.

This is all a rumor, but rumors have had a high validation rate for MLP lately.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Ice Crystal on March 10, 2013, 07:24:19 PM
Yeah! I actually came here to say that Spike the dog rumours have been floating around. Images below the cut (from EQD).

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It will be sort of a shame if true, since I never saw Spike as a pet and I don't think it was anyone's intention to make him such. Unless he winds up being a talking dog. Who knows!

Also heard that Princess Celestia is going to be Principal Celestia.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Winter Bones on March 10, 2013, 07:32:37 PM
The latest rumor is Spike will be a dog.  There are also picture of canine Spike floating around.

This is all a rumor, but rumors have had a high validation rate for MLP lately.

If it's true, that is going to make his infatuation with Rarity all the more bizarre. o_o;
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Kobold on March 10, 2013, 08:20:53 PM
The latest rumor is Spike will be a dog.  There are also picture of canine Spike floating around.

This is all a rumor, but rumors have had a high validation rate for MLP lately.

If it's true, that is going to make his infatuation with Rarity all the more bizarre. o_o;

Just what I was thinking!  If everyone's an anthro, Spike could be a dragonish-looking boy, no?  :|
Depends if they want to keep him a lot younger than the mane six I guess... if he was a human toddler, there wouldn't be a lot of reasons for them to be in the same place. But still, a dog... it feels condescending for the character.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: LadyMoondancer on March 10, 2013, 08:37:40 PM
Oh wow, I hope that rumor isn't true.  It would be so insulting for everyone else to be human ( . . . ish) and have Spike be a DOG.  They should make him a ten to twelve year old kid.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Kobold on March 10, 2013, 08:41:56 PM
Hahahaha!  :lol:

http://animatorar.deviantart.com/art/Equestria-Girls-342252152
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Al-1701 on March 11, 2013, 02:37:35 AM
Besides, everyone knows Spike's a gopher.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Summerlycoris on March 11, 2013, 03:02:53 AM
I have to agree with everyone on the Spike picture- it's just odd to have him turn into a dog whilst the ponies turned into humanish creatures. He should really be like the others, a humanish creature who keeps some of his dragon traits, even if he isn't the same age as the others.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: hathorcat on March 11, 2013, 03:16:17 AM
And a pretty weird looking dog at that! :/
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Cool.Breeze on March 11, 2013, 06:26:19 AM
Hahahaha!  :lol:

http://animatorar.deviantart.com/art/Equestria-Girls-342252152

LMAO! Okay, that picture is amazing. Best use of the derp-eyed soakie bottles that I've seen XD
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Galactica on March 11, 2013, 08:03:12 AM
Oh Spike the dog is sad and wrong...


I bet the movie will be CGI characters and look a lot like the Strawberry Shortcake movies... 
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: June on March 11, 2013, 08:43:23 AM
Hahahaha!  :lol:

http://animatorar.deviantart.com/art/Equestria-Girls-342252152

thats hilarious XD

I don't want to make an opinion before the show airs, but this doesn't look like something to celebrate 30th anniversary :shrug:
Maybe its a joke and they reveal the truth on April 1st  :cool:
I wish they made some special toys or made G4 toys as quality as previous gens.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: PinkRosedust on March 11, 2013, 09:31:37 AM
I dunno, I think Dog-Spike is cute. But I agree that it's really weird that they'd make him a dog and not a boy.

Hahahaha!  :lol:

http://animatorar.deviantart.com/art/Equestria-Girls-342252152

LOL! Those things haunt my dreams.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: josiekat on March 11, 2013, 09:53:06 AM
The more stuff I see and read about this, the less I like it. I really hope that the first episode blows me away so I can come on here and be like, "Ok, so I was way wrong about this..." But sadly, I don't think that'll be the case.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Al-1701 on March 11, 2013, 10:02:58 AM
I bet the movie will be CGI characters and look a lot like the Strawberry Shortcake movies...
Fortunately Moonscoop seems to only work on American Greeting properties.  Unless this is going to be a joint venture between Hasbro and American Greeting.  My mind just went to have a very dark place just now.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Ligress on March 11, 2013, 10:51:01 AM
Do. NOT. want.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: hathorcat on March 11, 2013, 04:08:03 PM
I bet the movie will be CGI characters and look a lot like the Strawberry Shortcake movies...
Fortunately Moonscoop seems to only work on American Greeting properties.  Unless this is going to be a joint venture between Hasbro and American Greeting.  My mind just went to have a very dark place just now.

Moonscoop work across a lot of IPs and they have created shows for The Hub as well as many other networks, they are certainly not restricted to AG. I am not sure why any work on MLP would need to involve AG? And I think with the recent Care Bears/Strawberry Shortcake drama its unlikely Moonscoop would only work with the company they have lost such a significant court case to.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Al-1701 on March 11, 2013, 04:42:22 PM
Sorry, I meant shows that Hasbro has any stake in.  American Greetings licenses Hasbro to make toys for them.  That's why Strawberry Shortcake and Care Bears are on the Hub.

Hasbro has studios they prefer for their own properties.  DHX and Top Draw are probably at the top of the list to make this series.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: OctoberFlash on March 11, 2013, 05:49:51 PM
I dunno, I kinda like Spike-dog! He's pretty cute :3

I'm trying really hard to be optimistic about this, haha. I've learned by now that if I diss something before I see it, I might miss out! After all, without FiM, I wouldn't have grown an interest for MLP in general c:
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: rosierjay on March 11, 2013, 07:02:21 PM
I dunno, I kinda like Spike-dog! He's pretty cute :3

I'm trying really hard to be optimistic about this, haha. I've learned by now that if I diss something before I see it, I might miss out! After all, without FiM, I wouldn't have grown an interest for MLP in general c:
i think spike looks cute.
rather him be a puppy than be left out.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: GoodyGumdrop on March 11, 2013, 07:29:56 PM
Ugh. I want to reserve judgement about this until the new series and toy line is released, but...I can't help but think this:

Internet weirdos are going to have a field day with this. If you think that there is some unsavory, NSFW, MLP related artwork out there now, wait until Equestria Girls get here. Ponies that are officially human girls in short skirts and go go boots! *shudders*
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Argentum-Zeena on March 11, 2013, 07:42:13 PM
Just looking at the design, Spike looks really really weird to me :/ He seems near identical to his normal self.
I also agree on the front that he should have been a boy...But really, though, I hope this all works out decently at least.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: scarletjul on March 11, 2013, 10:47:01 PM
I think the concept of  Spike as a dog is cute but story- line wise, it doesn't make sense.  From the tv show, Spike's always been treated more like a little brother than a pet - and unlike other pets (Angel, Tank,) he can talk and is intelligent.  I find the idea of making him into a dog weird.  :/
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: LadyMoondancer on March 12, 2013, 06:12:52 AM
Yeah, it would be different if they were turning all the characters into dogs.  (My Little Puppy?)
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Wardah on March 12, 2013, 07:28:51 AM
I think even if Spike ends up a dog he will still be the Spike we know and love, just stuck in the body of a dog.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Zapper on March 12, 2013, 08:01:01 AM
Alas, I like dog!Spike more than dragon!Spike *gets hit with fakies* I'm just not a big fan of his character design. The dog looks way cuter.
But I agree that he should be humanoid as well. Maybe disguised as Twilight's little brother or cousin ;)
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Mlphammy on March 12, 2013, 12:06:37 PM
Also heard that Princess Celestia is going to be Principal Celestia.
What about Luna and Cadence?
Will Celestia send the bad kids to the moon?
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Charmypony on March 12, 2013, 12:25:41 PM
Does that mean they will stop MLP Line? No more ponies?
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Zapper on March 12, 2013, 12:29:25 PM
Does that mean they will stop MLP Line? No more ponies?
Equestria Girls is a Spin-Off, not a re-imagening. It's just a second franchise that is based on the FiM characters. That means ponies will live on. They're two separate things.

Also heard that Princess Celestia is going to be Principal Celestia.
What about Luna and Cadence?

Weeeelllll....
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 :lol:
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Charmypony on March 12, 2013, 12:42:53 PM
Thanks, I was afraid that they would replace ponies by the dolls. I'm not sure about the design, no horn, but wings? And I don't like the outfit, they look all the same.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: SourdoughStomper on March 12, 2013, 01:20:28 PM
Lol @ lunch lady Cadence.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Tropical_Sunset on March 12, 2013, 01:21:37 PM
Lol!  That would be amazing if Luna was the janitor, oh man.  As for Spike the dog... I don't know.  The more I learn about Equestria Girls, the more it seems like one giant trollfest from Hasbro to us. XD
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Flitter on March 12, 2013, 02:07:20 PM
The more I learn about Equestria Girls, the more it seems like one giant trollfest from Hasbro to us. XD
I know right. It just seems to begetting weirder and weirder. I wish it would just be out already so we can know what it's really about.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: YellowCat on March 12, 2013, 08:19:56 PM
Ick!  Do not like.  While I like dolls I don't want ponies mixed with dolls.  The reason I like ponies it because they are different from your standard issue fashion doll, this is the same reason I had both ponies and Barbies when I was little.

Really, if Hasbro is doing this to compete with Mattel's Monster High they would be better off bringing back Jem with a new cartoon.  They could easily make the old characters 15-16 year old girls, which would appeal to tweens and young teens.  The Jem characters would also be easier to make edgier and more fashion and music- based, which again appeals to tweens and teens.  There could be the different hair colors and bold makeup that the original dolls had, they could have jointed bodies, different lines with different hair and makeup and themes and fashion packs.  Also, 80s inspired fashion seems popular with girls in this age group, Justice is full of leggings, skinny jeans, big sloppy shirts and neon colors.  Hasbro also needs to consider that their going to be going up against Novi Stars and Bratzillas too.  For some reason, I don't think Equestria Girls is going to go over well, especially if they have such plain fashions, similar hair styles and if the dolls have non-jointed old school Barbie doll type bodies.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Wardah on March 13, 2013, 08:15:33 PM
Really, if Hasbro is doing this to compete with Mattel's Monster High they would be better off bringing back Jem with a new cartoon.  They could easily make the old characters 15-16 year old girls, which would appeal to tweens and young teens.  The Jem characters would also be easier to make edgier and more fashion and music- based, which again appeals to tweens and teens.  There could be the different hair colors and bold makeup that the original dolls had, they could have jointed bodies, different lines with different hair and makeup and themes and fashion packs.  Also, 80s inspired fashion seems popular with girls in this age group, Justice is full of leggings, skinny jeans, big sloppy shirts and neon colors.  Hasbro also needs to consider that their going to be going up against Novi Stars and Bratzillas too.  For some reason, I don't think Equestria Girls is going to go over well, especially if they have such plain fashions, similar hair styles and if the dolls have non-jointed old school Barbie doll type bodies.

THIS!
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: rayedelsol on April 22, 2013, 05:06:07 PM
As per: http://movienewsletters.net/websites/digiplex/events.asp

There is a feature for My Little Pony: Equestria Girls on Saturday, June 15 • Sunday, June 16
Saturday, June 22 • Sunday, June 23 • Saturday, June 29 • Sunday, June 30 • Saturday, July 6 • Sunday, July 7 • Saturday, July 13 • Sunday, July 14  at select Digiplex locations.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: LadyMoondancer on April 22, 2013, 06:17:22 PM
I was just thinking the same thing about Jem!   It's already all about fashion, with the added bonus that it's about celebrities and rock stars!   Just change her wardrobe to whatever is hippest right now.
Title: Re: Equestria Girls
Post by: Wardah on April 22, 2013, 10:45:55 PM
I was just thinking the same thing about Jem!   It's already all about fashion, with the added bonus that it's about celebrities and rock stars!   Just change her wardrobe to whatever is hippest right now.

With celebrities like Lady Gaga and Nikki Minaj out there I don't think her look needs to be changed just the music.
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