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Too bad so much drama about recasts tho. I can think of a reason where it would be beneficial. Recasts would make great clothing dummies. Like if a doll clothes maker isn't too crazy about a BJD with odd size measurements but wants to make clothes that fit the odd sized doll as well they are stuck buying a doll they don't like.
I thought about this too while reading through this thread. what if someone who makes clothes for BJD wanted to offer several size options and needed different-sized dolls for measuring and modeling purposes? buying several legit dolls just because of this would be a financial disaster most likely. measurements can of course be requested from other owners, but clothes (not only in dolly size btw) usually sell better when they are modeled on actual dolls, not just pictured laying flat.
Quote from: Loona on January 01, 2016, 03:19:50 PMI thought about this too while reading through this thread. what if someone who makes clothes for BJD wanted to offer several size options and needed different-sized dolls for measuring and modeling purposes? buying several legit dolls just because of this would be a financial disaster most likely. measurements can of course be requested from other owners, but clothes (not only in dolly size btw) usually sell better when they are modeled on actual dolls, not just pictured laying flat.The flip side of this is that there are a fair number of lower-cost legit BJDs out there that are similarly sized to the higher-end ones, so if someone is just looking for a doll as a clothing model, why wouldn't they just buy one/some of those? That way they don't need to make a huge financial investment and they're still supporting the artists who created the dolls - seems like a win/win situation.
oh, that sounds great! thank you for your reply! I don't really know much about how much do recasts go for, and how their price compares to either their originals or to other originals of the same size, so if there are original dollies out there you can get for or close to the price of a recast that is similar-sized, than my question is no longer valid I was assuming that recasts are way cheaper, so this option didn't even come to mind.
Quote from: Loona on January 02, 2016, 03:07:37 PMoh, that sounds great! thank you for your reply! I don't really know much about how much do recasts go for, and how their price compares to either their originals or to other originals of the same size, so if there are original dollies out there you can get for or close to the price of a recast that is similar-sized, than my question is no longer valid I was assuming that recasts are way cheaper, so this option didn't even come to mind.IIRC while recasts are cheaper than the dolls they're ripping off, they're not the cheapest dolls available - looking at almost-definitely-not-legit sites, recast Minifees are $120-140. Resinsoul's MSDs (same size as a minifee) are $126-$150, and I know they're not the only lower-cost BJD company. Of course they're not the same doll, but both are classified as "slim MSD," so they should fit similar clothes, I think?
Phynx I think you were treated very poorly and I'm sorry your doll group did that to you. I do think that the recast witch hunt phenomena that happens can be extreme and ridiculous. I think it is particularly bad when doll groups fling unbased accusations at innocent parties.But... I do understand the idea behind not allowing in a social group (ie DOA which is so huge) people to openly own, sell, share photos of, recast dolls. Doing those things SUPPORTS recasters because it implies that having recast dolls is okay.I know there are lots of people that just don't get why having a recast art doll hurts both the artist and the hobby while supporting an art thief. But maybe those people might STILL hesitate before buying a recast doll (or before buying a doll that they do not know one way or the other if it is legit) if they thought they wouldn't be able to happily or easily share those dolls with their social networking groups. So then the recasters make less money and more people by legit art dolls.I would compare it to owning a counterfit of a well known and living artist. Regardless of whether you personally enjoy the painting or not, or whether you knew it was counterfit when it was given to you- if you KNEW it was a counterfit, you probably would not want to post photos of it and share it with other art collectors right? At least that's how I see it. I don't think however that there is ever any call to be nasty to other people.
I don't shop from chains well known for ripping off people's art. Like Hot Topic, like Forever 22. I don't ever shop with brands who steal cultural, ethnic or other such designs and call it Haute Couture.
Wait. Did we just compare Nazi relics with recasts? Knock off dolls to an organization that murdered millions of people? I'm sorry gals, I'm done. They're toys, expensive plastic toys.