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I'm just curious as to why G1 ended instead of carrying on with slight redesigns or something. Were they not selling as well anymore, or did Hasbro think they'd had their time? Or something else? I'm curious, also what about G2 and G3, why did they end?
Quote from: shimmlight on June 27, 2014, 04:54:54 PMI'm just curious as to why G1 ended instead of carrying on with slight redesigns or something. Were they not selling as well anymore, or did Hasbro think they'd had their time? Or something else? I'm curious, also what about G2 and G3, why did they end?G1 may have ended for most of us '92/'93, they didn't really end until '95 with the Dutch ponies. Short break. 1997: G2's!Hasbro had attempted slight re-designs with the G1's (Pony Bride Mold, SHS, Fancy Mermaids, etc.) I truly do believe that the lack of an interesting TV show was to blame. TV show = toy sales.I don't think Hasbro understood the importance of having a show to tie the ponies in with...so they tried the G2's. Not quite a success here in the states (womp womp), but appealing to kids in Europe. Yay!When did G2's end? '99? Later? I know the G3's started in '03, so it's history repeating itself (kinda). G3's look more like the beloved G1's...they started the pony points program again (for a while)...and direct to VHS/DVD shows. Wildly popular until kids lost interest. Now, I personally can't stomach the G3 movies. I don't think older children could either. Then, when sales were off again, time for a redesign! I don't think they needed to create the G3.5's...they should have released new characters.So, basically, it's my opinion that lack of an imaginative TV series and neglecting to release new characters caused the demise of each generation in the past.
Quote from: LittleSpiffy on June 27, 2014, 05:41:09 PMQuote from: shimmlight on June 27, 2014, 04:54:54 PMI'm just curious as to why G1 ended instead of carrying on with slight redesigns or something. Were they not selling as well anymore, or did Hasbro think they'd had their time? Or something else? I'm curious, also what about G2 and G3, why did they end?G1 may have ended for most of us '92/'93, they didn't really end until '95 with the Dutch ponies. Short break. 1997: G2's!Hasbro had attempted slight re-designs with the G1's (Pony Bride Mold, SHS, Fancy Mermaids, etc.) I truly do believe that the lack of an interesting TV show was to blame. TV show = toy sales.I don't think Hasbro understood the importance of having a show to tie the ponies in with...so they tried the G2's. Not quite a success here in the states (womp womp), but appealing to kids in Europe. Yay!When did G2's end? '99? Later? I know the G3's started in '03, so it's history repeating itself (kinda). G3's look more like the beloved G1's...they started the pony points program again (for a while)...and direct to VHS/DVD shows. Wildly popular until kids lost interest. Now, I personally can't stomach the G3 movies. I don't think older children could either. Then, when sales were off again, time for a redesign! I don't think they needed to create the G3.5's...they should have released new characters.So, basically, it's my opinion that lack of an imaginative TV series and neglecting to release new characters caused the demise of each generation in the past. G2s were in usa only for 2 years 97-98,but in Europe they ended until 2003 ( 7 Years ) It is sad that they did not get a TV Show otherwise the story would be different.
Quote from: HoustonCollector72 on June 27, 2014, 06:27:21 PMQuote from: LittleSpiffy on June 27, 2014, 05:41:09 PMQuote from: shimmlight on June 27, 2014, 04:54:54 PMI'm just curious as to why G1 ended instead of carrying on with slight redesigns or something. Were they not selling as well anymore, or did Hasbro think they'd had their time? Or something else? I'm curious, also what about G2 and G3, why did they end?G1 may have ended for most of us '92/'93, they didn't really end until '95 with the Dutch ponies. Short break. 1997: G2's!Hasbro had attempted slight re-designs with the G1's (Pony Bride Mold, SHS, Fancy Mermaids, etc.) I truly do believe that the lack of an interesting TV show was to blame. TV show = toy sales.I don't think Hasbro understood the importance of having a show to tie the ponies in with...so they tried the G2's. Not quite a success here in the states (womp womp), but appealing to kids in Europe. Yay!When did G2's end? '99? Later? I know the G3's started in '03, so it's history repeating itself (kinda). G3's look more like the beloved G1's...they started the pony points program again (for a while)...and direct to VHS/DVD shows. Wildly popular until kids lost interest. Now, I personally can't stomach the G3 movies. I don't think older children could either. Then, when sales were off again, time for a redesign! I don't think they needed to create the G3.5's...they should have released new characters.So, basically, it's my opinion that lack of an imaginative TV series and neglecting to release new characters caused the demise of each generation in the past. G2s were in usa only for 2 years 97-98,but in Europe they ended until 2003 ( 7 Years ) It is sad that they did not get a TV Show otherwise the story would be different. I remember being really excited about them (before I dubbed myself officially as a collector). I bought the happy meals just to get some new ponies (I hadn't found them in stores yet). Once I found them at Walmart, I was sorely disappointed. Small, silly looking ponies (no offense to G2 lovers), with itty bitty accessories at an inflated price. I remember standing in the toy aisle holding Morning Glory and debating with myself. I put her back and passed on buying any G2's at full retail. I think my personal experience is another reason why they weren't terribly popular in the US. If they had been even slightly bigger, I probably would have started collecting them. *shrug*
When G2 ponies were first announced, before anyone knew what they would look like, the response of the fandom was extremely positive. But when they actually hit stores, it turned very negative. To the point where they were boycotted, there were petitions, and many upset collectors. Even non-collectors wouldn't buy them for their kids because they didn't look like MLP.
As for why the G1s ended, they probably just had their time. If you look at the line pretty much around the world, you see the same progression that the line has done for every generation. During the early time of the generation the ponies are simple, a few simple playsets get made, and there is a decent choice of ponies, but it's not overwhelming. In the middle of the line there's usually an explosion of different ponies and sometimes different kinds of ponies, some more involved playsets are made, and the pony aisle are filled with new stuff all the time. Towards the end of the line you start getting funky gimmick ponies and weird stuff coming out(sometimes entire other lines like petites, Dream Beauties, etc), smaller, cheaper playsets, and less variety of actual ponies.