NO FEAR MONGERING
I live in the midwest USA
We have several confirmed cases
People are also panic buying and stores are sold out of a lot of hygiene and cleaning essentials
They are beginning to close universities and shift to online courses
Large businesses are discussing mandated indefinite work from home and some are beginning to test
They are putting BCM plans into place
The general consensus has been that this is overblown but people are becoming visibly more agitated over the past few days
I'm glad we have a thread like this, because the shoutbox is going to explode if it carries on there and it's literally something that's affecting us all. Community is pretty much the watchword.I'm also from the Midlands, it's crazy how it differes county to county, me and my family have been made to self isolate for 7 days as of this morning :( me and the kids all have a bad cough a sore throat and a fever and body aches all over.
I live in the UK, in the Midlands.
There are no confirmed cases in my immediate region yet.
The neighbouring county has 2 reported cases, both came from trips to Italy, neither have been publically mixing since their return. The wider region has something like 6 or 8 confirmed cases.
It's a surreal sense of normal here at the moment. Stockpiling is happening in this area but the worst thing is hand sanitiser (we always carry it so have some but will have trouble replacing it if this continues). Our local store had tons of toilet roll on Monday - by Tuesday morning it was all sold out apparently. No problems getting rice, pasta, etc. Antibacterial soap and wipes, it's hit and miss. We also have had some flooded communities here in the last few weeks so that's probably also aggravating the situation. It may also be keeping visitors away, however, as tourist areas were the ones that flooded.
Everything else is as normal. We're being told to wash our hands and be considerate of other people when coughing, sneezing, etc. Especially on public transport, but this is running as normal. There's been no local advice to change anything but some events in the midlands have been cancelled, especially at the NEC (Exhibition centre) in Birmingham.
UK nationally is currently not closing schools or cancelling large events because govt believe the science doesn't support doing so, but I think local communities are making their own decisions about this kind of thing. There's also no ban on travelling except advice not to travel to the worst infected areas.
I feel like quarantine could have been handled better and people in infected spaces abroad should have served quarantine time there and only returned to the UK when it was clear they were not infected. But I do think it's too late to think about that kind of policy now. Just repatriating people with the virus to their homelands spreads the virus. Quite a lot of onus is put on people to self-isolate. Many are. Some are refusing to.
I have more concerns about my parents/sister than myself getting it. Of all of us I'm the lowest risk candidate.
The UK govt has said that mild cases may have flown under the radar so our figures may not be 100% but it seems to have spread more slowly here SO FAR than in some of our neighbours. Nobody really knows why, but they expect it to go up so it's day by day.
I am focusing on my garden, my writing, and we're going walking because here you can easily go walking and meet hardly anyone.
On a personal note, because of the awkward timing of finishing my PhD, I was taking this year out to write articles and try and get an academic post for the autumn. However, my academic field has cancelled so many conferences (being Japanese studies) and the job market is currently nonexistent so I guess that's also on hiatus and I'm in a wait and see...
I'm also from the Midlands, it's crazy how it differes county to county, me and my family have been made to self isolate for 7 days as of this morning :( me and the kids all have a bad cough a sore throat and a fever and body aches all over.
we called the doc and were told to stop school and work for 7 days and isolate.
It feels like a really bad case of the flu, I really can't see how it would be corona as we don't go far afield or out much at all lately, it's a shame they didn't offer us testing.
I'm also from the Midlands, it's crazy how it differes county to county, me and my family have been made to self isolate for 7 days as of this morning :( me and the kids all have a bad cough a sore throat and a fever and body aches all over.
we called the doc and were told to stop school and work for 7 days and isolate.
It feels like a really bad case of the flu, I really can't see how it would be corona as we don't go far afield or out much at all lately, it's a shame they didn't offer us testing.
On the subject of flu, I don't suppose the NHS is going to do tests for that.
On the subject of flu, I don't suppose the NHS is going to do tests for that.
Wow, what a shame. The test would be more so to rule out things, rather then just confirm the flu.
On the subject of flu, I don't suppose the NHS is going to do tests for that.
Wow, what a shame. The test would be more so to rule out things, rather then just confirm the flu.
The NHS is publically funded so we all get free health care, including tests on things like covid19, at no personal expense. But that means that unnecessary tests on people who are not high risk just don't happen, because there's not the spare funds to do that when there are other things that need to be addressed. I don't know anyone who has ever had a test for flu, but I know a lot of people who have had free vaccination against flu every year for a long time, so it's a balancing act. I tend not to criticise the NHS overall because without it, my mother's cancer treatments would have been prohibitive for my family and she would have died a long time ago. It's not perfect but I think we just have to accept that there has to be some prioritisation in order for everyone who needs urgent treatment to get it as quickly as possible.
I took your advice and gave them a call, they said with my and my families symptoms that we unfortunately wouldn't be allowed to enter the gp surgery at all for 14 days !
I'm also from the Midlands, it's crazy how it differes county to county, me and my family have been made to self isolate for 7 days as of this morning :( me and the kids all have a bad cough a sore throat and a fever and body aches all over.
we called the doc and were told to stop school and work for 7 days and isolate.
It feels like a really bad case of the flu, I really can't see how it would be corona as we don't go far afield or out much at all lately, it's a shame they didn't offer us testing.
So the flu is obviously going around too.
But you are not going to know if it's corona or flu unless you get tested. Because governments have no ability to test all but severe cases, the corona virus numbers are very MUCH higher than "confirmed cases". Lots of people might just have a small cough and a low fever and have it.
So, I'd call your doctor up again and ask if you can get tested for the flu. There's NO reason you can't be tested for that, and if you had that you wouldn't have corona virus. You also can get medicine for flu if need be if it's early on.
I'm also from the Midlands, it's crazy how it differes county to county, me and my family have been made to self isolate for 7 days as of this morning :( me and the kids all have a bad cough a sore throat and a fever and body aches all over.
we called the doc and were told to stop school and work for 7 days and isolate.
It feels like a really bad case of the flu, I really can't see how it would be corona as we don't go far afield or out much at all lately, it's a shame they didn't offer us testing.
Wishing you and your family the best.
Are you West Mids or East? West seems fairly unscathed at the moment. Mind you, where I used to live in London - both those areas only have 1 confirmed case as well despite all the tabloids trying to whip up drama about London's case numbers. When you look at it nationwide by region - and the BBC had a tracker thing by postcode - the reality is something like 1-3 cases in a much larger local population. But of course that's only confirmed cases.
On the subject of flu, I don't suppose the NHS is going to do tests for that. But over here vulnerable people are encouraged to have a flu jab and every winter a huge number of people do (also sometimes a pneumonia one in the older population). Even though they are not the same, I imagine people who don't need an annual flu jab are probably better placed to fight off covid19. I would expect the NHS not to do a test for flu, so unless things get really rough, it's better to just follow the govt's advice for now.
UK govt have been testing people who were in contact with an infected person or who came back from an infected area but from yesterday are now testing generally - BUT they did say only the ones which required medical care/in hospital, so mild cases will go under the radar. They don't test for things like flu or other viruses unless the case is serious and requires more detailed treatment, so trying that path would just waste time. They refused my sister a test for glandular fever three times already this year, even though they're sure that she had it.
One concern I have is that prior to this the govt were talking about letting our A&E close (despite the fact A&Es in the UK are overcrowded and especially here where there are only 2 full hospitals anyway treating a large area of England and central Wales. It hasn't closed, but it makes me wonder what resources are actually available here if and when it finally arrives.
I think all this has made a lot of people take stock. There's hardly been a conversation about Brexit here in some weeks despite it dominating the news for the last three years prior to this. What will happen re that nobody knows or apparently cares right now. My hope is that at the end o this crisis the UK and Europe will sit down and talk like sane people understanding there are bigger things than scoring points that need to be repaired. I suspect our economies will all need us to take a cooperative effect.
Stuff like this brings out best and worst in people. People have stolen hand sanitiser from hospitals and madly stockpiled stuff, which has caused many vulnerable people to complain they can't get essentials and put a huge strain on foodbanks which the govt still doesn't seem to acknowledge are a thing. But on the other hand some local areas are setting up volunteer networks to help high risk people get supplies so they don't have to go out. If it wasn't for worrying about bringing it to my folks I'd be involved in one of those but I will be helping them if rules change and I need to do so - there are a lot of older folk in this area (several of whom are probably the kind to hit death with a walking stick if it came to call, if I'm perfectly honest about it).
BBC had an article about someone with the virus and my mother read it and said that it sounds identical to what she had last April/May time - dry cough that she couldn't control, fever that kept coming back, pneumonia that required hospitalisation. It took her a few weeks to recover. It's not that either of us think that that was covid19 but it made us all think a bit about what other similar diseases actually have been circulating in the past. Govt made a big thing about this being different from Swine Flu (which was bad) in 2009-10, because people have some immunity to flu in general and it was easy to get an innoculation done fairly fast. But then again they also keep saying that coronavirus is related to other diseases like the common cold. I think we really don't know what we're in for yet here.
However as of today some premier league football people have been diagnosed, so it looks like there's going to be some upheaval in the football, even though the govt has not ruled out their games.
Also, the US ban on flights to/from Europe doesn't affect the UK at the moment which seems a bit nuts since we have the disease here too. There's some concern about people getting the Eurostar here to get a flight to the US anyway. Nobody here knows how Trump intends to enforce keeping out anyone who has been somewhere infected in the last 14 days, since there are no passport stamps or visas within the EU, even outside of schengen. So basically a person can come from another infected country to the UK and onto a plane to the US undetected...bringing more infection onto our systems along the way. Unless the US intend to ban people based on their passports - but at the same time that would bar someone who'd spent 20 years in the UK who happened to come from France or Italy. I just don't see how that's going to work, and a lot of airlines and jobs are taking the strain.
One British airline (flybe) has already folded and tourism everywhere is way down.
I just read the news that people should not be going frenzy on the grocery shopping. Because its not so nice for those who have been working all day. Duh, that's why they invented online grocery shopping. So you don't need to go into one after work. I think its a logical reaction if you ask people to stay at home effective immediately. People want to be sure there is enough in case its decided for total lockdown. And we have a war history with very little food.The frenzy just moves online in that case, which saves people from rushing inside but isn't much better. We offer a drive-up service and we were flooded yesterday. As people become more wary I'd imagine they'd move over to more drive-ups and home deliveries.
I was thinking about ordering the usual pet food online so that I have it tomorrow but I think I will do that next week.
CNN's online newspaper is NOT TRUSTWORTHY. Their coverage of the virus has been sensationalist at best, and frankly, resembles a tabloid more than anything. Always confirm anything you read there. I can confirm multiple instances of misinformation for shock value. Once you start comparing their articles to their headlines and double checking the information, it becomes pretty obvious. Though they seem to have calmed down slightly in last few weeks. Not sure how the television coverage is, but I can't imagine it's any better. Use the WHO website if you need facts.
I hate to sound stupid, but can someone tell me WHY this virus is causing such a panic? I know it’s pretty fatal to those with pre existing conditions and the elderly. I don’t want to downplay that. But the quarantines and shutdowns of Disneyland and other major businesses that normally never close down is like nothing I’ve ever seen before. This isn’t the first weird illness I’ve lived through. I remember some panic but never anything even close to this. I feel like there is some really important fact about this illness I’m not getting.
@Griffin, on the subject of the Skype Viva, I had to do that last April because one of my examiners relocated to Japan before my Doctoral School got themselves sorted out, but it worked out fine and was very smoothly coordinated. BUT ours are not streamed or public events, so I don't know how they might handle that. Just that Skype does work for the viva and you shouldn't worry about that if it comes to pass.
(Also, good luck).
I hate to sound stupid, but can someone tell me WHY this virus is causing such a panic? I know it’s pretty fatal to those with pre existing conditions and the elderly. I don’t want to downplay that. But the quarantines and shutdowns of Disneyland and other major businesses that normally never close down is like nothing I’ve ever seen before. This isn’t the first weird illness I’ve lived through. I remember some panic but never anything even close to this. I feel like there is some really important fact about this illness I’m not getting.
New Zealand will be in lockdown from midnight tonight. Anyone coming in (except from the Pacific Islands) will be put in automatic 14 day isolation.
I went to two grocery stores today- both meat cases were empty, no chicken breasts or ground beef. No potatoes. So the normal people are going to go hungry because of the hoarders?
I hate to sound stupid, but can someone tell me WHY this virus is causing such a panic? I know it’s pretty fatal to those with pre existing conditions and the elderly. I don’t want to downplay that.
Covid-19 is a brand new disease, and a lot of the needs assessments are based on long-ago flu pandemics. But estimates range from a manageable 64,000 ventilators, if this outbreak is like the 1957 flu, to around 740,000 if it’s more like the 1918 Spanish flu. Based on early data from China, a little more than 2 percent of coronavirus patients require ventilators.
Not sure how queuing in a huddle is helping prevent the spread of disease...
And... in the past 2 hours we have our 7th case, who has been all over the South Island.
That's where most of the cases are here.And... in the past 2 hours we have our 7th case, who has been all over the South Island.
I hope no one in the North Island (that’s where my dad and brother are) gets it.
Not sure how queuing in a huddle is helping prevent the spread of disease...
That reminds me... Apparently there are people here who are planning "99 parties". All events with more than hundred people are cancelled, so obviously you must organise parties with 99 people because it's cool to be a smart arse like that.
Supermarkets? AWFUL. People are hoarding "ALL TEH THINGS!!!1!". It's awfully selfish, it makes me sick. I was doing some grocery shopping for my mother today, like I often do. This means I buy her things for an entire week, plus our own groceries, like I often do. This also means I had a full cart, including paper wares. There was no toilet paper left, so I got her two packs of paper kitchen towels instead, plus one(!) for us. Then this lady walks by and muttered sarcastically under her breath: "sooo, that's a nice load of toilet paper". I'm a peaceful person, but HNGJJFGHJFHGFJGHFJJDKF!!!11!
Supermarkets? AWFUL. People are hoarding "ALL TEH THINGS!!!1!". It's awfully selfish, it makes me sick. I was doing some grocery shopping for my mother today, like I often do. This means I buy her things for an entire week, plus our own groceries, like I often do. This also means I had a full cart, including paper wares. There was no toilet paper left, so I got her two packs of paper kitchen towels instead, plus one(!) for us. Then this lady walks by and muttered sarcastically under her breath: "sooo, that's a nice load of toilet paper". I'm a peaceful person, but HNGJJFGHJFHGFJGHFJJDKF!!!11!
What a rude piece of work. I am a person to make sarcastic remarks but honestly, I would never joke in these situations because we can never know whether someone is treating an ill person at home. My parents care for my grandparents who are majorly at risk and if anyone got snappy I'd verbally trample them.
Japanese news says single digits on new cases in China as of yesterday. Most of the newly detected do seem to be returnees,
I went to two grocery stores today- both meat cases were empty, no chicken breasts or ground beef. No potatoes. So the normal people are going to go hungry because of the hoarders?That sounds perfectly normal to me :biggrin:
Wait... Maybe I'm not normal. I am a 42 year old who collects toys and has more animal friends than real friends.
Well I went to one of the Walmarts in my area that I usually go to for the first time in maybe 2 weeks, and decided to check out the household section. As expected TP and PT's are almost gone, and the cleaner and soap aisles are almost empty. They actually had the TP aisle taped off and an associate standing there, and if you wanted some he would hand a package to you. Not a bad move. I already have enough to last me for a bit so I'm not worried about that.
Though now this guy is saying prepare for a possible 14 day shutdown: https://www.yahoo.com/news/america-prepare-hunker-down-even-143127875.html
There was a case in another county next to mine, and a school in a nearby town has closed for a week, even though there's still nothing in this county. Nonetheless it seems like it's closing in.
Though now this guy is saying prepare for a possible 14 day shutdown: https://www.yahoo.com/news/america-prepare-hunker-down-even-143127875.html
Asked whether he thought U.S. authorities should impose a 14-day lockdown to try to stop the spread of the virus, Fauci said: "You know, I would prefer (that) as much as we possibly could. I think we should really be overly aggressive and get criticized for over reacting."
My impression of all the shut-downs and isolation is to try and stop hospitals from becoming overwhelmed at once and having to turn people away. A large number of cases have required medical intervention even if they don’t lead to death. They are just trying to slow things down to a steady trickle of manageable cases.- from brightberry
My impression of all the shut-downs and isolation is to try and stop hospitals from becoming overwhelmed at once and having to turn people away. A large number of cases have required medical intervention even if they don’t lead to death. They are just trying to slow things down to a steady trickle of manageable cases.
The noose really feels like it's tightening here though. To the point I may not be going to any of the larger nearby cities for quite a while.
On a random note - American people, any idea why folk were queuing at a GUN store in LA? Do they expect riots or are some people thinking they can shoot the virus or something? Lots of people talking about that at the store today, and speculating as to why.
On a random note - American people, any idea why folk were queuing at a GUN store in LA? Do they expect riots or are some people thinking they can shoot the virus or something? Lots of people talking about that at the store today, and speculating as to why.
And who the hay started the toilet paper craze?? O______o
And who the hay started the toilet paper craze?? O______o
Some idjit started a rumor that all toilet paper was made in China and it wasn't going to be shipped to the states until the quarantines were all lifted in a few months. Pure hogwash but people believe anything and everything posted on Facebook.
Kansas City just took it further: https://www.kmbc.com/article/kansas-city-missouri-mayor-quiniton-lucas-closes-schools-bans-gatherings-events-with-10-people-or-more-because-of-covid-19/31679937?fbclid=IwAR0kBR1JIIQ7Uoh1arlzbfBffEN5lgwG5YyS0tRUaF12_aNJVjY1DoL5prI
All schools closed, no gatherings of more than 10 people.
We went to seven different grocery stores yesterday. Nobody had bread! Unlike pantry items or frozen foods, bread is a little... you know... harder to hoard... :lookround:
Stores had meat, canned vegetables, frozen vegetables, TV dinners, etc... but easily perishable bread is the necessity, huh? Especially with how humid it's been, bread gets moldy as soon as you open the bag!
I found it ironic that Trump made that statement at a gathering of more than 10 people, where he was not practicing social distancing...
Surely ten out of ten for self belief though.
I found it ironic that Trump made that statement at a gathering of more than 10 people, where he was not practicing social distancing...
I mean...look at who you're talking about? If this was a movie we'd all be talking about how unrealistically he was written.
:lol: :newpony: (that's his id).
I found it ironic that Trump made that statement at a gathering of more than 10 people, where he was not practicing social distancing...
I mean...look at who you're talking about? If this was a movie we'd all be talking about how unrealistically he was written.
Surely ten out of ten for self belief though.
Dollar General just announced starting tomorrow, the first hour of each shopping day will be for seniors only so they can get their stuff outside of the busiest times (plus they will start closing an hour early).
Hopefully other major chains will follow suit.
Dollar General just announced starting tomorrow, the first hour of each shopping day will be for seniors only so they can get their stuff outside of the busiest times (plus they will start closing an hour early).That's a nice idea, actually. I could also see them assign employees as runners to get seniors stuff they need if its just one or two things throughout the day also.
Dollar General just announced starting tomorrow, the first hour of each shopping day will be for seniors only so they can get their stuff outside of the busiest times (plus they will start closing an hour early).That's a nice idea, actually. I could also see them assign employees as runners to get seniors stuff they need if its just one or two things throughout the day also.
Apparently we got 63 cases now? I'm off work until Saturday so it's time to be blind to how shoppers are reacting again.
Schools and church activities are closed until further notice.Ohio schools technically closed for 3 weeks, with a consideration of 6 extra weeks. (This is obviously going to happen). I think within the 2 weeks excluding spring break they are going to finalize remote instruction, and then carry it out for the rest of the school year.
They at first said 3 weeks but are now talking possibly the remainder of the year. That's why I said until further notice.:/ That's sort of what I said... I just like stating things as they stand now.
The library where I work has gone to picking up holds only, so people have to put things on hold and then come to pick it up the next day. It hasn't been too bad but it's a bit boring for me to sit at the desk waiting for the phone to ring when I have loads of things I could be doing to get my project done. One of my co-workers who doesn't have anything to do might be willing to take my desk shift tomorrow so I can work on things but if not, I guess I'll be painting stuff for our escape room at the desk tomorrow...
Cleveland TSA employee has tested positive.
I hope that gets through to people that they should cancel spring break plans...
In Spain we have been in state of alarm since Saturday with more than 11k cases and 500 dead. No one can leave their homes except to buy food and medicine. The police can fine if they see two or more people together on the street or in the car.
I think the government has been slow to act because for weeks there have been many sick people, especially in Madrid, where there are more number of people infected, and many from there fled the capital to go to other areas of the country infecting more people. Some politicians have tested positive for the virus, including the president's wife.
Some supermarkets are rationalizing the amount of products you can take because there are people who hoarded a lot and left others unable to buy anything. We will be like this for 15 days, but I'm sure it will extended for another 15 days.
Cleveland TSA employee has tested positive.
I hope that gets through to people that they should cancel spring break plans...
Our beaches are crowded with people. Most are still open but they finally closed some on the east side (Miami, Ft Lauderdale). The news sent a drone over one of the beaches my family and I visit - people crammed together like sardines.
Here's some stories:
Amazon suspending shipments of all products except medical and high demand items:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/coronavirus-amazon-suspends-delivery-shipments-stock-price-a9406951.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR2q_VKiiTVh-D7_de52k3LW8XNWDVsjXep8MkBw-giPSXooU5J2485mHl0#Echobox=1584456332
I live east of Atlanta, Georgia. I've been watching the spread day by day. Most cases were in Atlanta counties. Then a couple days ago two cases to the east of my county popped up. Then two cases above my county. Now, today, a case in my county. It's closing in and getting scary. And I can't stay home.
People have gone ham. People who are hoarding food and tp are trigging other people into it, in fear that they won't be able to buy anything.
I just bought 4 breads because 2 of my friends still work until 6 and there is no bread left when they're done :\ One is frozen in just in case.
Our government has not decided to go on a total lockdown, but I wonder how long that will last.
Anyone on our forums doing something good to help others out in this time of need?
Also, hugs to anyone who has a job who puts them on the front lines for this-- be it hospitals, grocery stores, or elsewhere. :heart: stay healthy.
I just figured by now we all know our shelves are low :shrug: Stores are going to restock, so it's ok. As of now, I haven't heard disruptions in the supply chain. They are just trying to keep up.
Heard on the news the mayor of NYC announcing to expect a shelter in place order within 48 hours.Ugh, my family is already driving me crazy and I don't do well stuck inside. I really hope it doesn't spread nationally (also because Animal Crossing! Sorry to be selfish, but it's very important to me right now).
This is one thing I hope doesn't become a national thing. Anything longer than a week will destroy people's lives (many are already on that road with the current restrictions. And many won't follow it, which will really cause problems.
Anyone on our forums doing something good to help others out in this time of need?
I've been wearing a mask and gloves at work to try to keep from getting sick, bring anything home to my husband who has reactive airway disease and also to protect others with weak immune systems if I'm carrying the virus and don't know it and two idiotic young men bullied me for it yesterday. I don't get paid near enough for that kind of abuse and never will and those stupid young men need to take this thing seriously because it is serious. Then as I was clocking out, a coworker asked me if I was sick because of my mask. Apparently did not occur to him I was wearing to keep from getting sick. I love how ignorance prevails during this.
I think if I was a 75 year old right now- i would probably try and make sure I had a month's worth of food too- or figure out how to get it delivered. And then not go out or see anyone. At all.
I think if I was a 75 year old right now- i would probably try and make sure I had a month's worth of food too- or figure out how to get it delivered. And then not go out or see anyone. At all.
My workplace just issued a mandatory travel report for all employees. Based on our answers Health Services will decide if we will still be employees for the foreseeable future or if they will let us go until the next employment period begins. I live in an “at will” state where employers can let employees go for any reason.
I know they are doing this to make sure the virus doesn’t spread.
Ponyfan
Well the hoarders may not be very far off the mark after all:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-virus-plan-anticipates-18-190626012.html
“Shortages of products may occur, impacting health care, emergency services, and other elements of critical infrastructure,” the plan warned. “This includes potentially critical shortages of diagnostics, medical supplies (including PPE and pharmaceuticals), and staffing in some locations.” PPE refers to personal protective equipment.
Well the hoarders may not be very far off the mark after all:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-virus-plan-anticipates-18-190626012.html
Also Ohio update:
All businesses are asked to scan temperatures of their employees. If they do not scan, then "We're taking this one step at a time. If we find that we can't get employers to take temperatures, we'll have to go to the next stage and close everything down unless it's essential."
Also Ohio update:
All businesses are asked to scan temperatures of their employees. If they do not scan, then "We're taking this one step at a time. If we find that we can't get employers to take temperatures, we'll have to go to the next stage and close everything down unless it's essential."
I feel like this isn't an accurate way to check for people who are sick. My temperature raises a bit when I'm on my period. It doesn't mean that I'm sick or contagious with anything. It's just how my body reacts to that time of the month.
Also Ohio update:
All businesses are asked to scan temperatures of their employees. If they do not scan, then "We're taking this one step at a time. If we find that we can't get employers to take temperatures, we'll have to go to the next stage and close everything down unless it's essential."
I feel like this isn't an accurate way to check for people who are sick. My temperature raises a bit when I'm on my period. It doesn't mean that I'm sick or contagious with anything. It's just how my body reacts to that time of the month.
Well the hoarders may not be very far off the mark after all:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-virus-plan-anticipates-18-190626012.html
The hoarders are partially to blame for artificial shortages, tho. Nobody needs a castle built of toilet paper and pasta. They are forcing others to hoard, too. If I see something is in short supply I am inclined to get it for myself as soon as it's available again.
My workplace just issued a mandatory travel report for all employees. Based on our answers Health Services will decide if we will still be employees for the foreseeable future or if they will let us go until the next employment period begins. I live in an “at will” state where employers can let employees go for any reason.
I know they are doing this to make sure the virus doesn’t spread.
Ponyfan
That seems really unfair and I think that most places have lost track of the spread of infection by now, so sacking people who have traveled won't make any difference.
The thing that irks me the most are the greedy people. Several places like a gas station chain are offering free coffee for people working in the health care as a thank you, and people are nagging that they don't get one as well, because they are bus drivers, delivery trucks and personal assistants.. It just baffles me. People in healtchare rarely get the appreciation they deserve and when they get this small token the jealousy of others destroys it :mad:
I'm also worried about the local businesses. They say its safe to get takeout but I'm just not sure. I want to support them but i'm worried. And with the economy overall in bad shape I don't even want to spend any money unless I have to.
I work in the veterinary field. We are currently no longer seeing anything but emergencies - all wellness/vaccine/routine surgeries are cancelled until further notice. We are not allowing clients into the clinic. We are taking histories over the phone and then bringing only the pet into the clinic from the parking lot. The owners then pay over the phone. We have 75 confirmed cases of Covid-19 in Oregon with over 750 tests pending results.
I woke up with a cough/sore throat and when I called into work I was told a coworker is suspected of being Covid-19 positive and is in quarantine. I have a video appointment with the doctor this afternoon, so we will see how it goes. :yikes:
Well the hoarders may not be very far off the mark after all:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-virus-plan-anticipates-18-190626012.html
The hoarders are partially to blame for artificial shortages, tho. Nobody needs a castle built of toilet paper and pasta. They are forcing others to hoard, too. If I see something is in short supply I am inclined to get it for myself as soon as it's available again.
Trump has invoked the Defense Production Act: https://www.ksl.com/article/46731542/trump-invokes-emergency-authority-big-3-automakers-closing
It gives him the power to compel factories to expand production to turn out vital materials.
And according to that article: California may be facing martial law.
I work in the veterinary field. We are currently no longer seeing anything but emergencies - all wellness/vaccine/routine surgeries are cancelled until further notice. We are not allowing clients into the clinic. We are taking histories over the phone and then bringing only the pet into the clinic from the parking lot. The owners then pay over the phone. We have 75 confirmed cases of Covid-19 in Oregon with over 750 tests pending results.
I woke up with a cough/sore throat and when I called into work I was told a coworker is suspected of being Covid-19 positive and is in quarantine. I have a video appointment with the doctor this afternoon, so we will see how it goes. :yikes:
I'm so sorry to hear this. I'm in Oregon too. I really hoping for you.
As for me, my family's biggest concern right now is preventing the neighbor from getting it. She is very old
The thing that irks me the most are the greedy people. Several places like a gas station chain are offering free coffee for people working in the health care as a thank you, and people are nagging that they don't get one as well, because they are bus drivers, delivery trucks and personal assistants.. It just baffles me. People in healtchare rarely get the appreciation they deserve and when they get this small token the jealousy of others destroys it :mad:
That's humans for you.
One of my friends was choking on her own tears and getting super dramatic because she wanted to have a big birthday bash but most people cancelled due to the recommendations not to gather in large numbers. Had to bite my tongue because she's gonna have many more birthdays, it's not that big of a deal and quite frankly - who gives a damn. Some people really want to be the exception to the norm. It's not like she would go to a big party now but when it's her own suddenly everyone should ignore the recs.
All Non-Life sustaining business have been ordered to close in PA.yay! right under the wire. >_<;
Got my copy of ACNH, not complaining on that front.
Here's some stories:
A guy with it checks out of the hospital, and now has police stationed around his house:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/17/us/kentucky-refused-quarantine-coronavirus-trnd/index.html
And this.... could've been bad:
https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/03/coronavirus-patient-gave-false-name-address-now-no-one-can-find-her-mayor-says.html
The new death figure is 76, aged between 63 and 95. But there are still younger people at the hospital.
I am happy to see that there are interviews from people who actually did survive. Because it also gives a bit hope that its not an immediate death sentence if you say you have corona.
The Formula 1 car racing has been cancelled. There was a lot to do about it because of the preparation for the track. Some nature had to be destroyed.
As for grocery shopping, its not such a mad house anymore like last week. But still some empty shelves. Some supermarkets also started the "senior" hour early in the morning. But they don't turn away other people. The hoarding also was for online cat food because delivery took a lot longer that usual. I orderded Monday and at this moment I am waiting for the delivery man.
One of my friends has a "luxury" problem. Because all the restaurants are shut he has no place to go with friends. Well time to have take out and go to their place instead. Or cook for each other.
I heard that California, NY state today are imposing lock downs, I hope it will keep all you guys in those areas safe. A friend of mine from uni lives in NY state but I think she was already working from home.
I heard that California, NY state today are imposing lock downs, I hope it will keep all you guys in those areas safe. A friend of mine from uni lives in NY state but I think she was already working from home.
Define lock down?
Is that something different then shelter in place? (Although I see NY is not using that term)
california (https://covid19.ca.gov/stay-home-except-for-essential-needs/)
new york (https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/home)
I heard that California, NY state today are imposing lock downs, I hope it will keep all you guys in those areas safe. A friend of mine from uni lives in NY state but I think she was already working from home.
Define lock down?
Is that something different then shelter in place? (Although I see NY is not using that term)
california (https://covid19.ca.gov/stay-home-except-for-essential-needs/)
new york (https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/home)
I heard the NY Governor speaking about it on news TV and he very clearly said it wasn't a shelter in place, he was calling it a 'pause' and that it was mandated, not optional. He also said the California governor wasn't using that term either. BUT I'm only going on what has been broadcast on our channels in the UK and so someone in the area probably knows better than me the exact specifics. I forget what he said CA was calling it - Stay at Home?
I heard that California, NY state today are imposing lock downs, I hope it will keep all you guys in those areas safe. A friend of mine from uni lives in NY state but I think she was already working from home.
Define lock down?
Is that something different then shelter in place? (Although I see NY is not using that term)
california (https://covid19.ca.gov/stay-home-except-for-essential-needs/)
new york (https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/home)
I heard the NY Governor speaking about it on news TV and he very clearly said it wasn't a shelter in place, he was calling it a 'pause' and that it was mandated, not optional. He also said the California governor wasn't using that term either. BUT I'm only going on what has been broadcast on our channels in the UK and so someone in the area probably knows better than me the exact specifics. I forget what he said CA was calling it - Stay at Home?
It mirrors other states that call it shelter in place. He won't use that term because they use it for live shootings... but they are not calling it lock down.
I think terminology is worth defining, especially in something critical like this so everyone is on the same page and doesn't interpret it differently. This is why I linked both department of health pages so it was as direct as can be what each thing means to each state.
Starting tomorrow all restaurants will be carry out/takeout only. Libraries will also be closed. Gyms and bars are also closed.
Banks are open but my bank is not doing in person transactions.
All public schools are closed until April 3rd and most likely will just do online learning for the rest of the year.
Ponyfan
I heard that California, NY state today are imposing lock downs, I hope it will keep all you guys in those areas safe. A friend of mine from uni lives in NY state but I think she was already working from home.
Define lock down?
Is that something different then shelter in place? (Although I see NY is not using that term)
california (https://covid19.ca.gov/stay-home-except-for-essential-needs/)
new york (https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/home)
I heard the NY Governor speaking about it on news TV and he very clearly said it wasn't a shelter in place, he was calling it a 'pause' and that it was mandated, not optional. He also said the California governor wasn't using that term either. BUT I'm only going on what has been broadcast on our channels in the UK and so someone in the area probably knows better than me the exact specifics. I forget what he said CA was calling it - Stay at Home?
It mirrors other states that call it shelter in place. He won't use that term because they use it for live shootings... but they are not calling it lock down.
As I said, it's a nuanced term and not worth an argument over - it seems irrelevant what they call it, the important aspect is the impact. Technically Italy etc aren't using the words lock down either, not least because they're English words, but it doesn't mean it's not what it is. Whereas by comparison the UK is not in lock down because we're under strong advisory guidance to stay home - but there is currently no legal enforcement of that (even though it could happen, as yet, it has not).
By lockdown I mean a situation mandated by govt to not go outside and do things that they would normally do, on pain of fines and other penalties. Which were outlined by the NY governor - I don't know about in CA.
Semantical disagreements on use of terminology are really unhelpful when the bigger issue is, well, bigger.
A Facebook friend posted this pic of Clearwater beach. They're going to close it Monday. Why are they waiting until Monday? It's all about the money, of course. Crazy.
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