Which dolls are just very prone to it? Are there some dolls that don't seem to get it?
Interestingly enough, Cleo, Ghoulia and Spectra are all rooted with kanekalon; Rochelle and Frankie are rooted with saran. I wonder if people are mistaking the natural oiliness of saran with glue seepage..? I've handled saran from Dollyhair before, and it's definitely slicker than nylon and kanekalon.
My Meowlody definitely had glue seepage -- I had to remove her hair because the glue was so thick and sticky, it was sticking her hair together in big chunks. My Rochelle and Frankie, on the other hand, don't feel sticky, just oily. I wonder...
My S1600 Cupid has it BAD. My boyfriend picked her up for me in April, but I didn't get to open her until July. Her hair was thick with glue right out of the box. It's sticky to the touch and clumps together. :(
My S1600 Cupid has it BAD. My boyfriend picked her up for me in April, but I didn't get to open her until July. Her hair was thick with glue right out of the box. It's sticky to the touch and clumps together. :(
Are you sure it wasn't hair gel? 'Cause Sweet 1600 Cupid comes with a whole bunch of hair gel straight out of the box... It makes the hair stuck together in one big clump, and it comes out with some water.
supposedly all of the dolls from the Gloom Beach 5-pack are very prone to it (I can attest that Cleo from the pack certainly is at least), which makes sense given their price point and that they were likely rush-manufactured to meet demand.
My Wave 1 Lagoona, signature Abbey DOTD Clawdeen, SS B&W Frankie, Wave 1 Ghoulia (just a little bit) and Howleen all had glue seepage. Clawdeen was the worst of the group and Ghoulia just had sticky roots at the back of her head.Oh nooooo :( The Wave 1 dolls aren't even safe? I was hoping to get Signature Lagoona as my main Lagoona because her faceup is so pretty, but I'm too obsessive-compulsive to do it now.
All of them have normal feeling hair again after I washed their hair with Goo Gone Spray Gel, which is a citrus based cleaner. It is oily when applied but washes out good with bar soap (I used plain yellow Dial soap). Sometimes it takes a couple washings to get rid of all the glue- for example I washed Clawdeen's hair twice before it was glue free.
I've updated the second post with adhesive removers that can have a temporary resolution for the glue. If anyone has any tips regarding the glue or products, please let us know!
My S1600 Cupid has it BAD. My boyfriend picked her up for me in April, but I didn't get to open her until July. Her hair was thick with glue right out of the box. It's sticky to the touch and clumps together. :(
Are you sure it wasn't hair gel? 'Cause Sweet 1600 Cupid comes with a whole bunch of hair gel straight out of the box... It makes the hair stuck together in one big clump, and it comes out with some water.
THIS. He has very thick gel, wash it with shampoo THOROUGHLY and then let dry naturally, on a towel. If it is still very very thick with gunk, it will be seapage. Good luck! :)
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Okie: oh! I read cupid as clawd, and his hair is super thick with gel, as for cupid, I really don't know :huh: xxx
Was it just the pure oil? Or a shampoo with the oil? I know that's also really healthy for the scalp so that could be quite a wonderful possible solution!I've updated the second post with adhesive removers that can have a temporary resolution for the glue. If anyone has any tips regarding the glue or products, please let us know!
I mentioned in the main thread, but I think my suggestion got swamped by all the other action. My SS Frankie had pretty bad seepage, and I used tea tree oil. It's a natural product that can remove adhesives. Her hair is not perfect, but I think it will be even better with another wash. Plus this stuff has the benefit of not being a super noxious chemical :)
The only other dolls I have with seepage are Toralei and Rochelle.
Was it just the pure oil? Or a shampoo with the oil? I know that's also really healthy for the scalp so that could be quite a wonderful possible solution!I've updated the second post with adhesive removers that can have a temporary resolution for the glue. If anyone has any tips regarding the glue or products, please let us know!
I mentioned in the main thread, but I think my suggestion got swamped by all the other action. My SS Frankie had pretty bad seepage, and I used tea tree oil. It's a natural product that can remove adhesives. Her hair is not perfect, but I think it will be even better with another wash. Plus this stuff has the benefit of not being a super noxious chemical :)
The only other dolls I have with seepage are Toralei and Rochelle.
Ghoulia is the only girl from this set that did not come out of the box with oily hair. My frankie from this set had horrible glue seepage, and Ghoulia is still perfectly fine. It is possible that may be because she was manufactured later, as the other girls are all re-boxes. So either she was made later and it mgiht stil lhappen in time, or she was made differently and might be safe.supposedly all of the dolls from the Gloom Beach 5-pack are very prone to it (I can attest that Cleo from the pack certainly is at least), which makes sense given their price point and that they were likely rush-manufactured to meet demand.
I only have Gloom Beach Ghoulia from that line, and she doesn't have any seepage. I bring it up to ask: I wonder if she was done differently due to being ONLY available in the 5-pack?
Maybe the oil in saran helps the glue flow through the plugs easier, and kanekalon is better at plugging them up?Ghoulia is the only girl from this set that did not come out of the box with oily hair. My frankie from this set had horrible glue seepage, and Ghoulia is still perfectly fine. It is possible that may be because she was manufactured later, as the other girls are all re-boxes. So either she was made later and it mgiht stil lhappen in time, or she was made differently and might be safe.supposedly all of the dolls from the Gloom Beach 5-pack are very prone to it (I can attest that Cleo from the pack certainly is at least), which makes sense given their price point and that they were likely rush-manufactured to meet demand.
I only have Gloom Beach Ghoulia from that line, and she doesn't have any seepage. I bring it up to ask: I wonder if she was done differently due to being ONLY available in the 5-pack?
Maybe the oil in saran helps the glue flow through the plugs easier, and kanekalon is better at plugging them up?Ghoulia is the only girl from this set that did not come out of the box with oily hair. My frankie from this set had horrible glue seepage, and Ghoulia is still perfectly fine. It is possible that may be because she was manufactured later, as the other girls are all re-boxes. So either she was made later and it mgiht stil lhappen in time, or she was made differently and might be safe.supposedly all of the dolls from the Gloom Beach 5-pack are very prone to it (I can attest that Cleo from the pack certainly is at least), which makes sense given their price point and that they were likely rush-manufactured to meet demand.
I only have Gloom Beach Ghoulia from that line, and she doesn't have any seepage. I bring it up to ask: I wonder if she was done differently due to being ONLY available in the 5-pack?
The problem is all these methods to remove the glue require you wash the hair out. It really is a pain if you are trying to keep the original hair style.
I have to agree with this! If I knew for sure that someone could rehair one of my girls in an exact colour/pattern match with the same bangs, layering and length, I'd jump at the chance. It's just that even with supposedly saran hair, my MH girls feel a lot different than ponies with saran hair from DH.The problem is all these methods to remove the glue require you wash the hair out. It really is a pain if you are trying to keep the original hair style.
Yeah, I'm going to be upset if one my dolls with a difficult-to-recreate hairstyle starts showing signs.
On a side note, I bet someone could make BIG MONEY starting a rehairing business, advertising helping people with glue seepage issues. If someone could guarantee color match 100% and that they used the same hair type, etc etc etc, I'd probably just rehair the darn things!
From my experience, yes. On my Frankie with glue seepage the white paint on her hair was extremely yellowed.Does glue seepage cause scalp "color change"? I got my wave one Frankie back the other day and most of her scalp is this sickly yellow color. It couldn't really get it to scrape off. I was absolutely horrified when I saw that.
I haven't determined the brown in Cleo's hair or Clawdeen's different browns. It hasn't been a priority.Due to a few pony customs with normal hair colors, I've got a bunch of browns in my hair box. I'll take a look tomorrow when I've got natural light to compare against the dolls.
So, I am very very new to MH...just got my very first doll today (Ghouls Rule Abbey Bominable)! Anyway, this thread is scaring me that if I leave her MIB like I had planned that I will end up with a gooey icky doll...as well if I get any others that I want. I do not style or do anything with clothes or things like that with dolls and do not want to have to deal with this in a toy I collect. What are the basics on this, etc.? What should I be careful of? My Abbey is made in Indonesia!
Does washing their hair cause any kind of glue seepage?
Well, her semi greasy hair doesn't bother me that much, so I don't think I'll chance it;)
Well, her semi greasy hair doesn't bother me that much, so I don't think I'll chance it;)
I heard a couple people having problems with Nefera seepage >.< I hope yours dosent do that too. I guess it gets all over her headpiece and its just a mess.
Well, her semi greasy hair doesn't bother me that much, so I don't think I'll chance it;)
I heard a couple people having problems with Nefera seepage >.< I hope yours dosent do that too. I guess it gets all over her headpiece and its just a mess.
Gah! Don't tell me that, not I'm freaked out:(
Her scalp is clear though, so I think it's just the seran hair.
Better late than never - I had fewer browns than I thought, but I can tell you the ST Clawdeen's hair not nylon Hazelnut, Toasted Almond, or Amaretto.I haven't determined the brown in Cleo's hair or Clawdeen's different browns. It hasn't been a priority.Due to a few pony customs with normal hair colors, I've got a bunch of browns in my hair box. I'll take a look tomorrow when I've got natural light to compare against the dolls.
@Puku: Not to mention someone called them and they said they've never heard of the issue, that's total bull since I know for sure many of us have complained about it before. I love the idea of the change.org petition that I previously brought up but we'd have to do so much planning for it to make sure we get all the facts, stories from collectors, parents and children, etc. ;_;Exactly.
Does anyone know if Venus or Robecca are made in China or not? If they are, are their heads rigid or squishable?Mine is made in Indonesia. Her hair is super-dry, though. Not even any oily residue. I'm chuffed.
Does anyone know if Venus or Robecca are made in China or not? If they are, are their heads rigid or squishable?My Venus is Indonesian, so it's very likely that all of them are.
It's got that annoying chink in it from where it was held in the box, though, so I'm going to have to boil wash it anyway. I just need to make sure the flocked part doesn't get wet, right?Be VERY careful not to get the flocking wet, I'm afraid to touch it dry! I can tell (on mine anyway) that the flocking isn't on there very good and it will come off easily.
Be VERY careful not to get the flocking wet, I'm afraid to touch it dry! I can tell (on mine anyway) that the flocking isn't on there very good and it will come off easily.Yes, I have already somehow rubbed a little bald patch into the flocking at the back. I did not get it wet. I might have put my finger there while trying to brush her hair, though. :(
I wonder if it's possible to mist her flocking with Mr. Super Clear or Dullcote or something, just to help it stick better?I've got some Dullcote, so I could try it. I'd have to try and cover her face and ear, though, I think, so it doesn't dull them too. LOL.
I'm the person who suggested tea tree oil as a solution. I tried it on my SS Frankie a while back and said that it improved things immensely though she was still sticky in some places. Well, my Toralei had serious glue seepage (why of all my dolls did it have to be her!!!), so I brought out the tea tree oil again and WOW! Her hair is back to perfect! I just made sure to use a lot of oil, brushed it through the hair, and gave it a few minutes to sit. Now she's soft and fluffy again! This is now going to be my primary solution for dealing with this issue!
I'm the person who suggested tea tree oil as a solution. I tried it on my SS Frankie a while back and said that it improved things immensely though she was still sticky in some places. Well, my Toralei had serious glue seepage (why of all my dolls did it have to be her!!!), so I brought out the tea tree oil again and WOW! Her hair is back to perfect! I just made sure to use a lot of oil, brushed it through the hair, and gave it a few minutes to sit. Now she's soft and fluffy again! This is now going to be my primary solution for dealing with this issue!
Keep us updated as time passes - does it work well enough that we don't have to wash their hair every week to avoid the stickies!?
Does it affect the black dyed stripes in Toralei's hair at all?
I found it and tried it last night on Toralei, it works great! :) Thank you!
Now I need to do Lagoona and maybe Lala too....
Goo gone 2 is the scent good? I found one thats citrus scent...
I unboxed clawdeen/howleen 2 pack and even Deuce and Cleo 2 pack... And behind EVERYONES head except Deuce have a .... oil stain, Cleos was almost puddle like >_< ... Is that seepage? I have NEVER seen it on the backcard before this.
Any updates on dolls who had tea tree oil used on them?
Can someone tell me if the glue that seeps through the scalp has an odd smell? I got a doll who's hair feels rather.. gross and has a funky smell even though I washed the hair with shampoo and conditioner.
Sorry for Double-Posting, but since this thread is already on the second page I figured a little Bump was in order fooooooor... Catlein is now my personal MH-Hairfixing-Hero! :D
I had a Frankie with bad seepage and icky hair and today I used her as my 'bait' and gave her the tea-tree-oil-treatment (before trying on any of my wave1). ..used a LOT of oil, worked it in with a small G4 comb and let it sit for about 5-10 minutes before washing it out with my regular shampoo.. and WOW. Frankie's hair is soft.. and fluffy.. and SOFT.. and FLUFFY! ..I cannot stop playing with it. Haha. :heart:
So.. everyone with glue-seepage, TRY IT. Please! It's so worth it!
Since I needed a lot of oil on her tho, I'm gonna buy me some HUGE bottle of ebay now and will treat all my girls who have even slightly greasy or icky hair with that, too. SINCE IT'S JUST SO FLUFFY AND SOFT NOW!
And it's a 100% organic product.. just wow!
Thanks Catlein! ^.^
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It works awesome! At first I was all like 'what oil? won't it make it more greasy?' - But it totally rocks! Glue Seepage has totally lost its scare now. At least on dolls with an easy to recreate hairstyle. :3
How on earth did you find out about it if you don't mind me asking? Tea-Tree-Oil is probably the last thing I would've tried.. XD
It works awesome! At first I was all like 'what oil? won't it make it more greasy?' - But it totally rocks! Glue Seepage has totally lost its scare now. At least on dolls with an easy to recreate hairstyle. :3
How on earth did you find out about it if you don't mind me asking? Tea-Tree-Oil is probably the last thing I would've tried.. XD
I had a bottle of tea tree oil that I used to remove bandage adhesive from my skin (I even tried to deflock a so-soft pony once, and it sorta worked). So I figured that if it removed stuff like glue, it might work on dolly hair! And thus a wonderful solution was born :)
Can someone tell me if the glue that seeps through the scalp has an odd smell? I got a doll who's hair feels rather.. gross and has a funky smell even though I washed the hair with shampoo and conditioner.
I broke down and bought tea tree oil today to try out, this stuff has wonderful results. Now my house smells of tea tree oil, while it drives my husband nuts I love how fresh my house smells and how lovely Toralie & Lagoona's hair feels. <3 I'm a happy camper now. :)
I broke down and bought tea tree oil today to try out, this stuff has wonderful results. Now my house smells of tea tree oil, while it drives my husband nuts I love how fresh my house smells and how lovely Toralie & Lagoona's hair feels. <3 I'm a happy camper now. :)
Yaaay! :D That stuff is just fantastic! ^^
But yeah.. when BF came home later that night he was all like 'WHAT'S THAT SMELL-- NASTY!' LOL. I admit I told him I used it for my skin, tho.. he hates the dolls enough already, cannot tell him they're the reason our bathroom smelled like tea tree heaven for a whole night. xD
Ever since Rochelle's release: Who else, after her, has had a case of the glue seepage flare up?? Just curious. Any signs from Venus or Robecca? My Venus doesn't seem to have it. Anyone mention anything about Jinafire/Skelita having the seepage problem ever since they came out?Maybe someone has some kind of info on this.
Resurrecting this thread for some glue seepage questions...
What causes it? Humidity? Heat? Cold? Over-brushing or over-handling the dolls?
I have about 70 dolls, plus I've had plenty more pass through my hands and I dont' think I've ever encountered glue seepage. What am I doing right? I can't possibly be just lucky. I want to know what's right in my apartment so I can make sure to keep it constant!
I don't handle my dolls a ton, if that's what contributes; mostly I just display them, but sometimes I redress them and such.
Throwing in another question(s):This is a great question. Because if I need to do more than one treatment per doll that could get kind of expensive in buying the tea tree oil.
would having a dish of full the tree oil with a couple of doll heads soaking in it make a difference??
Since it's like 2 oz per bottle (and $10 per bottle >,>) do you keep the oil for future use? or just wash it out all together and just buy another bottle? I'm assuming, since it's that small quantity, you could may as well use the whole bottle and do a bunch of dolls at once and buy another bottle when needed.
Resurrecting this thread for some glue seepage questions...There was an idea on Russian forum that glue seepage is the problem of the dolls from Indonesia. I was browsing internet and found the same thought.
What causes it? Humidity? Heat? Cold? Over-brushing or over-handling the dolls?
I have about 70 dolls, plus I've had plenty more pass through my hands and I dont' think I've ever encountered glue seepage. What am I doing right? I can't possibly be just lucky. I want to know what's right in my apartment so I can make sure to keep it constant!
I don't handle my dolls a ton, if that's what contributes; mostly I just display them, but sometimes I redress them and such.
Bumping this thread in hopes of hearing from those of you who used the tea tree oil...how are your dolls doing at this point? =) Or does anyone else have any new info about this issue and/or how to treat it?
I've recently discovered my Venus has the seep, and the Meowlody I treated last year has had it return and it had stained her hair yellow, yuck! I seem to have fixed it though, she's currently drying. I'm still contemplating how to go about washing Venus's :huh:
I've recently discovered my Venus has the seep, and the Meowlody I treated last year has had it return and it had stained her hair yellow, yuck! I seem to have fixed it though, she's currently drying. I'm still contemplating how to go about washing Venus's :huh:
Were you able to get the yellow out? Did you use Tea Tree oil?
I think the yellowing bothers me more than the stickiness :mad:
Isn't the Venus with the sig make-up the easier one to find? If I remember correctly. Although, we don't have Swim Class here at all. I am getting my Venus in a trade.
I checked Meowlody and the yellow staining has definately gone!
From what I remember, only big boxed dolls get the glue, thin boxed ones don't. My DT Frankie isn't stinky with the glue nor does she have the glue texture, and one of my swimline Venuses I cracked her head open and and she had no glue at all whatsoever.