I actually really like the fact that everything comes in men's sizes before women's. I loath clothing that is clingy or revealing because I dress conservatively, and most women's tees have gigantic neck holes and are built for an hourglass figure I do not have. I can't count the number of times I've turned up my nose at a shirt that I enjoyed the graphics of because it was built for some size 0 girl with a flat stomach and huge breasts.This.
Yeah... I can't wear any of them at all. D: Large busts and high neck-lines just don't go well together.
It's a shame because I really wanted the Pinkie Moon one. XD
Urgh, don't even get me started. So sick of guys completely taking over MLP.
I don't buy any of the t-shirts or anything, but it still makes me mad. MLP was and is meant for girls. GIRLS, people!
I don't buy any of the t-shirts or anything, but it still makes me mad. MLP was and is meant for girls. GIRLS, people!
Sure, it's marketed to girls, but if a guy wants to spend his days drowning in ponies, there's nothing wrong with that. Are action flicks for guys? Videogames? How 'bout engineering careers, scientific careers?
The 'brony' movement is acting like they both own and invented ponies, the segregating of the fanbase is what's upsetting.
I don't buy any of the t-shirts or anything, but it still makes me mad. MLP was and is meant for girls. GIRLS, people!
Sure, it's marketed to girls, but if a guy wants to spend his days drowning in ponies, there's nothing wrong with that. Are action flicks for guys? Videogames? How 'bout engineering careers, scientific careers?
... yes? You do realize that all of those things are almost exclusively marketed to/created for guys, right? Popular media (movies, video games), especially? Tell me the last time you saw an action movie that was marketed towards/starring women (in a non male-gazey way), pre-Hunger Games. Really, I'll wait. Ditto for video games - it's only very recently that 'big name action games' (such as ME3) are starting to even consider their female demographic, despite a decent number of female gamers. For the most part, they market/design their products towards the male audience, and any women who happen to like it are more of an afterthought.
Similarly, the 'popular theory' for many years held that women were good at social studies/language arts, and men were better at scientific/engineering careers - when in fact it's more of a social construct that tells men/women which jobs/majors are 'best' for them, not any kind of actual brain chemistry differences between the sexes. The social pressure is simply that women who like math are 'weird' and men who like social studies are too. It's not right, but it's what is passed around in the culture.
I can see your point, you're just making it a way I disagree with. Men 'own' a lot of popular media as it is - they don't need to be stealing shows from little girls and acting like they have the 'right' to own it, or to be the loudest voices in its fandom. But that said, men should absolutely feel welcome to the MLP fandom - just not in a way that becomes condescending ("FiM isn't like old pony shows, it's not GIRLY"), or tries to replace the other half of the fandom. It is what it is - a girly, cute little show that is entertaining for all ages and genders. It doesn't have to be 'for men' or 'manly' for it to be charming. People should just love MLP for what it is, not what they think it should be. :)
Yeah... I can't wear any of them at all. D: Large busts and high neck-lines just don't go well together.Small busts and high neck lines don't work either, it makes me look like a boy! x) This is an issue with a lot of band t-shirts too, they often make them in smaller sizes, but still the typical tshirt shape, it's annoying :-/
...ugH! starting to feel like a jerk...
Wow. I don`t really like this thread. I`m a guy and my first ponies were Blossom and Medley. My entire life I was made fun of for liking girls toys. And what I am reading here is not really a t-shirt selection complaint, but a whole bunch of nasty backhanded hate.
Like it or not the pony world has changed and i`m glad it has.
Oh and BTW try finding a men`s pony shirt made before 2010. They did not exist.
Wow. I don`t really like this thread. I`m a guy and my first ponies were Blossom and Medley. My entire life I was made fun of for liking girls toys. And what I am reading here is not really a t-shirt selection complaint, but a whole bunch of nasty backhanded hate.
Like it or not the pony world has changed and i`m glad it has.
Oh and BTW try finding a men`s pony shirt made before 2010. They did not exist.
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I'm aware of all of this, I regularly stomp around and huff and puff about gender equality. Society gives those with matching chromosomes the short end of the stick, and it's a load of horseapples. But the contrary applies too, don't put me in a box and tell me I can't like ponies 'cause I have a Y chromosome, 'cause I sure as Shire talk wouldn't tell a woman they should do something based on their gender. It's not okay to say 'this is for boys, not for girls', screw that attitude. I extend my middle finger to that viewpoint just as readily as I extend to the attitude 'this is for girls, not for boys'. It goes both ways.
And I totally agree with you. If people want to watch ponies, they should watch it regardless of their gender, and enjoy for what it is. It's a brightly coloured sugary sweet show about ponies whose goal is to be awesome to each other (not to mention it has incredibly awesome gender equality undertones). If you like it for that, embrace it, don't stand behind a label, just say you like ponies! Ain't nothin' wrong with that, ponies are awesome!
I honestly feel bad for both of us, for this conversation. 'Cause I feel like we're both arguing about the same thing, on the same side, on the same page, and we're somehow not seeing eye to eye. Part of that's 'cause while I am a proponent of gender equality, I can never see it from the other side, I can do my best to empathize, and I do, but it's not my plight, so I'll never fully understand it.
Basically it sucks. The culture that tries to put both of our genders in boxes sucks. Fortunately it's changing, slowly, but it's changing.
DoctorMon and Snapdragon - I love you both right now. As a female engineer who loves video games, action movies, dolls, and ponies....you guys make me feel accepted here :lovey:
I saw some really awesome shirts on WeLoveFine and couldn't get them because they only come in mens sizes... I was kind of upset. I mean, I don't care that much, it's just a T-shirt, but guys, pegasisters exist too. We might be the minority of the FiM fanbase, but that doesn't make us nonexistent. :(
Wow. I don`t really like this thread. I`m a guy and my first ponies were Blossom and Medley. My entire life I was made fun of for liking girls toys. And what I am reading here is not really a t-shirt selection complaint, but a whole bunch of nasty backhanded hate.
Like it or not the pony world has changed and i`m glad it has.
Oh and BTW try finding a men`s pony shirt made before 2010. They did not exist.
Ok. As mentioned before WLF is not the only place making MLP shirts, There is also this : http://www.zazzle.com/mylittlepony
O_o; there are 6 pages of women's shirts on WLF (10 for men). So I dunno, the topic is that there is lack of female directed FiM stuff. Well, there is a basic tee-- so it is "lack of tank tops". So in reality, we have more choices then men, because we also have zazzle :3
But I say make a ruckus to WLF. Cuz ya know, if there is a BIG ENOUGH want for it, they are gunna sell it, because they like to make money.
:blush: i really cant fit in the mens. im a petite girl who has to order small in womens. and if i order a small in mens there is no room for chest area. if i order bigger i look like a box LOL
Urgh, don't even get me started. So sick of guys completely taking over MLP.
I don't buy any of the t-shirts or anything, but it still makes me mad. MLP was and is meant for girls. GIRLS, people!
I don't buy any of the t-shirts or anything, but it still makes me mad. MLP was and is meant for girls. GIRLS, people!
MLP was not "made and meant" for girls. Please note that we have many male collectors here...
MLP is a children's toy meant to enhance and enrich the imagination. Any attempt to pigeon-hole a gender stereotype is just that, and not a true statement about MLP at all.
I think mailing them may just be the way to go. I wonder if a collective email would be helpful? Not complainy, like a petition, but couched in a fun and friendly way, like,
"Dear Welovefine: We love you. We LOVE your awesome array of pony t-shirts...we just wish that more of our favorite designs were available in women's shirts. This would be at least 20% cooler!
We are a group of female My Little Pony fans who would SERIOUSLY consider purchasing your shirts if only the same designs for male tees were available in the girly tee cut (We would not be opposed to camis or tanks, either!). We want to give you our money, we just need clothing that fits. :) Thank you very much for your consideration, and for being all around awesome. We look forward to seeing what you put out next!"
Followed by a list of names (of serious potential buyers). Or, we could all just email individually with a nicely posed request. It may be that they've been hesitant to expand because girly tee sales are poor...which of course is stupid and self-fulfilling, because I expect they're poor because the selection is so bad. :p (well, not BAD...but the shirts I love best are male only. you get what I mean).
I don't buy any of the t-shirts or anything, but it still makes me mad. MLP was and is meant for girls. GIRLS, people!
MLP was not "made and meant" for girls. Please note that we have many male collectors here...
I don't buy any of the t-shirts or anything, but it still makes me mad. MLP was and is meant for girls. GIRLS, people!
MLP was not "made and meant" for girls. Please note that we have many male collectors here...
What color is the aisle for Pokemon? Around here, they are in the blue aisle. Guess this is a little boys' pink deer plushie.What color aisle are the MLP toys on, pink or blue? :)
Just because a boy collects baby dolls doesn't mean he's their target audience.
The target audience is little girls. Not boys, not men but not grown women either. If they were only keeping to the target audience then there would be nothing directly specifically at ANY OF US.What color is the aisle for Pokemon? Around here, they are in the blue aisle. Guess this is a little boys' pink deer plushie.What color aisle are the MLP toys on, pink or blue? :)
Just because a boy collects baby dolls doesn't mean he's their target audience.
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I buy my pony tees from RedBubble. They aren't official, but their women's tees are made to fit women. If official merch companies want my money, they'll just have to start filling out their stock to fit me.
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It's a shame the toy sections end up being so iron clad in some people's minds. I bet there's little girls that aren't much for Pokemon that would go for that deer but their parents won't see it tucked away with the Beyblade. And boys can pick up a sweeeeet red convertible for their action figures over in the sissy pink aisle. Maybe even a tuxedo for sneaking into fancy parties on missions.
I buy my pony tees from RedBubble. They aren't official, but their women's tees are made to fit women. If official merch companies want my money, they'll just have to start filling out their stock to fit me.
Personally I think there is a general lack of fan orientated women's tees, not just FiM but other TV/Film and bands too. Where there are women's tees they are often tiny sizes and as a somewhat larger lady I've basically given up trying to support my favourite shows/artists through shirts.
Yikes. Slightly...explosive topic here.
But... go to Hot Topic. I went there looking for some MLP stuff and only found women's shirts. XD
Yikes. Slightly...explosive topic here.
But... go to Hot Topic. I went there looking for some MLP stuff and only found women's shirts. XD
Yeah women's shirts for those with tiny figures. =P
One of my favorite things to do with men's shirts is cut and tie. I do something like this http://farm1.static.flickr.com/108/294211765_a135925f6f.jpg but I do it along the sides of the shirt. Really helps get a nice fit and makes it interesting.
I actually really like the fact that everything comes in men's sizes before women's. I loath clothing that is clingy or revealing because I dress conservatively, and most women's tees have gigantic neck holes and are built for an hourglass figure I do not have. I can't count the number of times I've turned up my nose at a shirt that I enjoyed the graphics of because it was built for some size 0 girl with a flat stomach and huge breasts.
Right .... As a male collector ( not necessarily a Brony as I have been collecting since way before FIM existed) who wants to look out for everypony, Brony, Pegasister, or otherwise I have taken action.
I have written to WeLoveFine and explained this tricky situation and linked them to the arena to see what this hot topic is all about.
I have no idea if they will respond but I'll keep u posted!
BBP
Right .... As a male collector ( not necessarily a Brony as I have been collecting since way before FIM existed) who wants to look out for everypony, Brony, Pegasister, or otherwise I have taken action.
I have written to WeLoveFine and explained this tricky situation and linked them to the arena to see what this hot topic is all about.
I have no idea if they will respond but I'll keep u posted!
BBP
That was very big of you!
Well, if someone from WLF does read this, I'd like to suggest in addition to more women's shirt options that they try branching out into more G1 shirt options. I have bought the "Read a Book" shirt featuring Twilight because I can wear it to work. However, as a mlp collector I am more likely to buy shirts featuring early G1 ponies rather than FIM. I really like the idea of art shirts featuring ponies such as Glory or Medley in a similar vain to their art nouveau line with FIM.
Right .... As a male collector ( not necessarily a Brony as I have been collecting since way before FIM existed) who wants to look out for everypony, Brony, Pegasister, or otherwise I have taken action.
I have written to WeLoveFine and explained this tricky situation and linked them to the arena to see what this hot topic is all about.
I have no idea if they will respond but I'll keep u posted!
BBP
That was very big of you!
Well, if someone from WLF does read this, I'd like to suggest in addition to more women's shirt options that they try branching out into more G1 shirt options. I have bought the "Read a Book" shirt featuring Twilight because I can wear it to work. However, as a mlp collector I am more likely to buy shirts featuring early G1 ponies rather than FIM. I really like the idea of art shirts featuring ponies such as Glory or Medley in a similar vain to their art nouveau line with FIM.
Same. I prefer something that's a more elegant. I'd rather see more vintage style artwork, or art nouveau artwork. A lot of the shirts there are too juvenile and in your face.
Hmmm, maybe for the next contest I'll do some g1 artwork...
plus i like the thinner more breathable fabric of womens shirts as opposed to mens because i have severely sensitive skin due to eczema. the mens shirts are just so THICK! and a little more abrasive. :(
You'd be surprised! I fit much better into a womans tee because they're shaped better. And I'm way far from size 0. :D
I also think that gender stereotypes are stupid, even more so now that I have completed my sociology major and plan to go to grad school for it. I admire bronies very much for refusing to let themselves be defined by sexist marketing strategies, and I think the fact that they're being marketed to now is a *good* sign! They're not taking anything away from us, they're expanding the fanbase. We just need to speak up and remind merchandise sellers that we're still here and we want to spend our money with them.
Kids these days are breaking the gender mold too. I don't agree that kids are as hung up about which gender is "supposed" to play with a certain toy as when we were younger. I see little boys in the pony aisle all the time, and they know all the pony names and their parents have no problem buying ponies for their little boys. Kids are annoyed by narrow gender boxes these days too:
http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/12/27/dont-try-to-buy-this-girl-a-princess-doll/ (http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/12/27/dont-try-to-buy-this-girl-a-princess-doll/)
Yeah women's shirts for those with tiny figures. =P
Not to mention not everyone has a Hot Topic in their country.