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Quote from: Dragonflitter on January 02, 2018, 12:06:43 PMThe thing about a show that is seven seasons long, is that you're going to be able to find plenty of examples that support a sweeping generalization like this, but also that there's plenty of examples that prove the opposite, if you bother to look. For example, did you forget about the episode where Twilight sent Starlight out to make her own friend and she makes friends with Trixie, whom Twilight doesn't like (and the feeling is mutual?). The entire point of that episode is that your friends are sometimes going to be friends with people who you don't like, and that you have to accept that. That's just as nuanced as the lesson you cited in the Tales ep.I totally agree, i'd say it does it even better because Teddy is not here (seriously, Tales trying to redeem him while showing him only being a total jerk just because he has a teddy bear is on par with FiM's tendancy to reform every bad guy.It bothers me even more tbh).The message is good in both episodes, but the context makes it work better for me in FiM
The thing about a show that is seven seasons long, is that you're going to be able to find plenty of examples that support a sweeping generalization like this, but also that there's plenty of examples that prove the opposite, if you bother to look. For example, did you forget about the episode where Twilight sent Starlight out to make her own friend and she makes friends with Trixie, whom Twilight doesn't like (and the feeling is mutual?). The entire point of that episode is that your friends are sometimes going to be friends with people who you don't like, and that you have to accept that. That's just as nuanced as the lesson you cited in the Tales ep.
Tales also didn't need to bring in a new character to serve as the conflicted friend. Starlight seems to be a crutch to do things they can't do with the Mane 6.
I think you quoted the wrong person, I'm not comparing anything with The Ticket Master.We'll never know is Tales or Friends would have been in this position because they were never given the chance. We have the bodies of work we have. Tales might have only lasted one season, but in that one season it was willing to do something it took Friendship is Magic six seasons to, and didn't feel the need to add a new character to facilitate it. Which kind of deadens the message.Trixie had appeared twice. Once as a showman the Mane 6 decided to antagonize and the village idiots unwittingly humiliated. Then she came back possessed by a magic trinket she originally intended to use to show up Twilight but made her power mad. Now she's back in town (for whatever reason) and Starlight decides to befriend her not knowing her past.Teddy was a known commodity to the seven characters, and their antagonism to each other was well established. Them agreeing to stay in their own corners was also for the benefit of their mutual friend instead of learning The Lesson of the Episode.However, I'm picking things apart at this point.
(seriously, Tales trying to redeem him while showing him only being a total jerk just because he has a teddy bear is on par with FiM's tendancy to reform every bad guy.It bothers me even more tbh).
Like when she stole the balloon and almost got her and Bon-Bon killed?Trying too hard is probably the best way to sum up Friendship is Magic. It tries too hard to be funny, too hard to be cool, too hard to be dramatic, too hard to be topical, too hard to be clever, too hard to be deep, etc. This staff has bought into the hype they're working on the greatest animated series ever, and act accordingly. Only it isn't and they're trying to punch far above their weight. This is a show that can't even get an anti-bullying message right.
Quote from: Al-1701 on January 03, 2018, 02:29:36 PMLike when she stole the balloon and almost got her and Bon-Bon killed?Trying too hard is probably the best way to sum up Friendship is Magic. It tries too hard to be funny, too hard to be cool, too hard to be dramatic, too hard to be topical, too hard to be clever, too hard to be deep, etc. This staff has bought into the hype they're working on the greatest animated series ever, and act accordingly. Only it isn't and they're trying to punch far above their weight. This is a show that can't even get an anti-bullying message right.What episode tried to do anti-bullying? I can't remember an episode like that from the top of my head
Quote from: Jorgito93 on January 03, 2018, 02:34:37 PMQuote from: Al-1701 on January 03, 2018, 02:29:36 PMLike when she stole the balloon and almost got her and Bon-Bon killed?Trying too hard is probably the best way to sum up Friendship is Magic. It tries too hard to be funny, too hard to be cool, too hard to be dramatic, too hard to be topical, too hard to be clever, too hard to be deep, etc. This staff has bought into the hype they're working on the greatest animated series ever, and act accordingly. Only it isn't and they're trying to punch far above their weight. This is a show that can't even get an anti-bullying message right.What episode tried to do anti-bullying? I can't remember an episode like that from the top of my headOne Bad Apple.