Why is Generation 1 My Little Pony So Hated?

[LightingElectricDream]

I don't really understand why anyone would waste the energy hating on something like this, so I can't speak as to why anyone would dislike it. I will say that, as a person who grew up in G1, I can appreciate the hand-drawn animation and better quality product though...no, it wasn't perfect, there are flaws here and there. It was hand crafted, and people aren't perfect, so the cartoon wasn't perfect, and at times even the toyline wasn't. There weren't computers to do all the work of that stuff, I mean, there were, they just weren't as sophisticated yet.

I may be a bit biased admittedly, I don't get the appeal of the G4 look, it just looks so lazy, and cheap, and the product isn't much better...lacking imagination and variety. But it sells so *shrugs* whatever, toymakers know something I don't, apathy sells I guess! *lol*

I don't hate G4 though, I just generally ignore it much as I can manage.

as one person above mentioned, G3 seems to get more dislike...which I don't get either, I pretty much enjoyed that line thoroughly, least until they ended it with the humdrum 'core 7' nonsense :/ but what can you do.

This..

I agree with you completly.

I don't get the appeal of G4 mostly in product tho. I feel core 6 is just way over played to death. I wouldn't feel this way if they would actuelly make other Brushables like blossom forth, honey buzz Ect..

I haven't watched the show since season 3 I think. But that's just beacuse i am lazy to do so. And sometimes I don't feel the mood.

G4 dose not appeal to me. But I don't hate it it's just like Adventure time, Steven univers, regular show.. to me it's just flash animation and it dose not mean enugh to me to actuelly get upset about it.

And I think this is how alot of bronies feel tword G1. It's likely to them trying to watch a barbie movie, as where G4 to them is like watching an Anime.

So it's all about looking through the rose colored glasses. Everyone sees the same color it's just weather you like the color or not.

I do however feel like some people will wast Thair time hating it and getting it out as much as possable. And one nagitiv makes a louder voice than ten positives.
So that's like why it feels that way.

[chaosprincess]

LightingElectricDream I agree it does not bother me if people hate certain generations or not to be honest I have not been watching much of generation 4 due to it no longer appeals to me its been lacking a lot lately the toys are cute I am a collector more then a watcher getting a new my little pony toy can't help, but smile, but I think that's with anybody my collection is rather small, but still proud of it and there is a lot of past generation pony references in generation 1, but I would like to see the twinkle eye ponies be added they are beautiful and their back story is a sad one knowing they were once blinded, but when I first saw them as a kid I loved them, but your right everybody is going to have their own opinion on the show/ movies and toys it all depends on if your a collector or a watcher.

[Strawberry Swirl]

Something that made me happy going into this thread is that my gut reaction was "g1 hate? Where?"
I've been here for so long I forgot that was even a thing! Most collectors idolize G1, it's what most of us grew up on. I grew up during G3 but I'm the exception. I really forgot about what I tore away from.

The reason being, bronies *love* to dog on older gens. It has died down some in their circle recently, but it's still common for them to be sort of "if it's not g4 it's bad."

When I abandoned the whole brony thing, sure it was partly because of bad behavior but it was mostly because I felt that the gen hate was extreme.
I had come to like the older gens better and the negativity was beginning to stress me out a little.


I don't know if I think that their disdain for the older MLP is for very good reason though. To me, it looks like not many if them have given it an honest chance. I think there are many aspects of G1 and G3 alike that bronies would adore!
Characters like Wind Whistler, Gusty, Firefly, Fizzy, Shady. Minty in G3 literally did the 'ponies in socks' thing before it was cool. Majesty is a queen and not just 'princess.' There are many dark elements, remember when Tirek threatened to execute Spike?

Of course the older cartoons aren't perfect but neither is FiM. But hey, that's just me rambling again...

[chaosprincess]

Sapphire Rain rambling is perfectly fine I do it often, but I agree with you people should give it a chance before saying they dislike it that's why I made this thread because I was curious on why people would hate on something they did not really get to know even if they did not like the show the ponies are adorable and if it was not for the older generations there would be no generation 4 now I know the cartoons were not perfect, but hey they were hand drawn so they deserve a break, but so soft wind whistler was my very first pony so she is a favorite of mine, but my most favorites is the twinkle eye ponies they have a dark backstory which people may like they were blind before they got their twinkle eyes so the only way they were able to see again was due to the twinkle eyes and my little pony tales yes it was a boring life cartoon, but if people watched it they will see that there was some dark stuff in there like black mailing and much more I love the generation 2 ponies sure they never had a show of their own, but their design is beautiful they take shape of a majestic arabian horse which arabian horses are my favorite and the gem in their eyes are pretty cool, but without the past there would be no generation 4 and that should always be remembered and your right with the socks as well socks were big in generation 3, but I did find the dancing shoes episode a bit creepy since they were looking for dance shoes that were apparently alive, but I really enjoyed watching a very minty christmas. 

[Ponyfan]

I don't know if I think that their disdain for the older MLP is for very good reason though. To me, it looks like not many if them have given it an honest chance. I think there are many aspects of G1 and G3 alike that bronies would adore!
Characters like Wind Whistler, Gusty, Firefly, Fizzy, Shady. Minty in G3 literally did the 'ponies in socks' thing before it was cool. Majesty is a queen and not just 'princess.' There are many dark elements, remember when Tirek threatened to execute Spike?

Of course the older cartoons aren't perfect but neither is FiM. But hey, that's just me rambling again...

I was thinking the same thing. The original special/Rescue at Midnight Castle had a vey evil villain who didn't care about anything except his own goal and wasn't the least bit worried about what he had do to make it happen or who he had to transform or get rid of. The series also had some evil villains although I think Tirek is the ultimate MLP villain.

I also think most people that bash the G1 era haven't given it a chance.


Ponyfan

[chaosprincess]

Ponyfan the funny thing is Tirek ended up in generation 4 a lot of the villains in generation 4 were originally in generation 1 and a lot of the ponies and characters are from generations 1,2 and 3 the main 6 would have been ponies from generation 1, but Hasbro did not have the rights to them at the time so when they bash the older generations they are also bashing generation 4 due to the older generations make up the 4th one.

[SpaceButtPonies]

I have to say I wasn't really in to G1, I found them oddly weird and strange. But never hated them.
I recently started to enjoy them more and more, when I got a bug up my bum and decided to watch it. The characters are cute and silly. What I found mostly entertaining was their voice actors! First one the caught my immediate attention was the voice of Bart Simpson, Nancy Cartwright. Then kept on watching to see if I could recognize others, which in turn I did. Tess McNeill who plays Mom in Futurama, voices one of the witches. I kept watching more episodes and found out G1 has quite the charm and has made me have appreciation for them.

[chaosprincess]

Pikashoes the ponies have pulled you in lol its fun searching for voice actors a lot of voice actors who played in the original my little pony played in my favorite anime Inuyasha its interesting knowing what character they voiced back then.

[Wardah]

I dunno but I still can't give the G1 cartoon a pass for it's low quality animation. Yeah it's hand drawn but so was Cinderella. The G1 cartoon was rushed and it shows. Going by quality the G3 cartoon is actually decent, too bad most of the stories weren't as strong. The methods they use now just make the whole process quicker so a quality cartoon can be made faster.

For myself all I love about G1 is the toys. Oh and the gorgeous backcard art. If the cartoon looked as good as the backcard art it would be anazing.

[SpaceButtPonies]

I dunno but I still can't give the G1 cartoon a pass for it's low quality animation. Yeah it's hand drawn but so was Cinderella. The G1 cartoon was rushed and it shows. Going by quality the G3 cartoon is actually decent, too bad most of the stories weren't as strong. The methods they use now just make the whole process quicker so a quality cartoon can be made faster.

For myself all I love about G1 is the toys. Oh and the gorgeous backcard art. If the cartoon looked as good as the backcard art it would be anazing.

Cinderella also had more production value done for it (it also being Disney), unlike MLP that was meant for just television low production = crap quality. Plus a lot of 80's cartoons are similar in that mannor.
In my opinion, g3 cartoon quality was awful. I recently watched Minty's Christmas and there were a lot of animation errors more than I can count lol. G3 isn't hand drawn, what boggles me is that they let that much fly by without fixing it.   

[LadyMoondancer]

The "G1 hate" has died down and isn't around so much as it used to be.  As to why it was there to begin with, it has very little to do with G1 itself, and more to do with sexism.

Because women and girls are devalued in society, things specifically "for girls" are considered vapid, shallow, and stupid.  Whether it's boy bands, make-up, or toy ponies, if it's specifically for girls or mostly liked by girls, you can be sure that a large segment of the population scorns it.  Especially boys and men.  (Although plenty of girls also buy into the girl-hate.)

When G4 debuted it attracted a pretty sizeable male fanbase.  Like most guys, they had been trained from an early age to detest all things "girly".  So, in order to justify their enjoyment of MLP FIM, they created a false dichotomy, claiming that G4 was not girly and all the previous generations of MLP (which they knew little to nothing about) were girly.

Of course, this is laughable.  Every generation of MLP has been girly, i.e. aimed at girls and strewn with things that are meant to appeal to girls--rainbows, hearts, and the ponies themselves.

But anyway, that's why.  As I said, it doesn't really have much to do with G1 itself.  It was just a bunch of guys who couldn't handle the thought that they liked something girly, so they pretended it wasn't.

[RainbowQuartz]

The "G1 hate" has died down and isn't around so much as it used to be.  As to why it was there to begin with, it has very little to do with G1 itself, and more to do with sexism.

Because women and girls are devalued in society, things specifically "for girls" are considered vapid, shallow, and stupid.  Whether it's boy bands, make-up, or toy ponies, if it's specifically for girls or mostly liked by girls, you can be sure that a large segment of the population scorns it.  Especially boys and men.  (Although plenty of girls also buy into the girl-hate.)

When G4 debuted it attracted a pretty sizeable male fanbase.  Like most guys, they had been trained from an early age to detest all things "girly".  So, in order to justify their enjoyment of MLP FIM, they created a false dichotomy, claiming that G4 was not girly and all the previous generations of MLP (which they knew little to nothing about) were girly.

Of course, this is laughable.  Every generation of MLP has been girly, i.e. aimed at girls and strewn with things that are meant to appeal to girls--rainbows, hearts, and the ponies themselves.

But anyway, that's why.  As I said, it doesn't really have much to do with G1 itself.  It was just a bunch of guys who couldn't handle the thought that they liked something girly, so they pretended it wasn't.

I want to kiss this comment.

[buttonso]

The "G1 hate" has died down and isn't around so much as it used to be.  As to why it was there to begin with, it has very little to do with G1 itself, and more to do with sexism.

Because women and girls are devalued in society, things specifically "for girls" are considered vapid, shallow, and stupid.  Whether it's boy bands, make-up, or toy ponies, if it's specifically for girls or mostly liked by girls, you can be sure that a large segment of the population scorns it.  Especially boys and men.  (Although plenty of girls also buy into the girl-hate.)

When G4 debuted it attracted a pretty sizeable male fanbase.  Like most guys, they had been trained from an early age to detest all things "girly".  So, in order to justify their enjoyment of MLP FIM, they created a false dichotomy, claiming that G4 was not girly and all the previous generations of MLP (which they knew little to nothing about) were girly.

Of course, this is laughable.  Every generation of MLP has been girly, i.e. aimed at girls and strewn with things that are meant to appeal to girls--rainbows, hearts, and the ponies themselves.

But anyway, that's why.  As I said, it doesn't really have much to do with G1 itself.  It was just a bunch of guys who couldn't handle the thought that they liked something girly, so they pretended it wasn't.

I want to kiss this comment.

Nailed it.

[Al-1701]

The methods they use now just make the whole process quicker so a quality cartoon can be made faster.

Which is why it takes them twice as long to make half the episodes.  (When I saw that it took 15 months to make a Wander Over Yonder episode, my jaw dropped.)

The G1 cartoon suffered from a lot of issues behind the scenes.  The animation was divided between Toei and AKOM (and several of the multipart stories had episodes animated by different studios) and was run on the budget of whatever Hasbro found between the sofa cushions.  Kind of sad because it had some really interesting ideas and characters.

[chaosprincess]

I agree the animation was far from the greatest and I enjoyed the toys a lot more then the show/movie it was just nice seeing my favorite characters in the show/movie even if it was crappy, but your right the hate on it has died down to be honest my little pony is like G.I Joe's they were meant for boys, but girls still played with the little figures just as boys now play with my little pony and there probably have been male fans of the older generations as well, but I prefer the toys I enjoy looking at my collection even if its small.