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Actually Cotton Candy's symbol was indeed meant to be an appaloosa pattern. Originally the plan was that MLPs would be "real horse" colors with real horse patterns. Then the idea evolved to "fantasy colors" with real-horse patterns. This is seen in the Year 1 commercial, where ALL the Collector ponies have appaloosa spots, and also on the Year 1 backcard. visitors can't see pics , please register or login^ Kind of hard to see, but everyone has spots. (I think they updated the art on the back so they have symbols, though.)visitors can't see pics , please register or login^ Also on this brochure.By the time they were actually released, someone had come up with the idea of giving them all separate symbols (probably got the idea from Care Bears). However, Cotton Candy's symbol never changed, so she retained her spots.I know a lot of people interpret her symbol as little bits of cotton or cotton candy, but in terms of "what did the artist have in mind when they drew it", it's really not meant to be anything but random spots.
Actually Cotton Candy's symbol was indeed meant to be an appaloosa pattern. Originally the plan was that MLPs would be "real horse" colors with real horse patterns. Then the idea evolved to "fantasy colors" with real-horse patterns. This is seen in the Year 1 commercial, where ALL the Collector ponies have appaloosa spots, and also on front of the Year 1 backcard, and on this Year 1 brochure:visitors can't see pics , please register or loginBy the time they were actually released, someone had come up with the idea of giving them all separate symbols (probably got the idea from Care Bears). However, Cotton Candy's symbol never changed, so she retained her spots.I know a lot of people interpret her symbol as little bits of cotton or cotton candy, but in terms of "what did the artist have in mind when they drew it", it's really not meant to be anything but random spots.Anyway, I think this topic was meant to be a fun hypothetical.
I don't think I'm following you.... to my knowledge there were no prototypes of Cotton Candy or Sweetheart that were released without symbols. Also, the idea of ponies earning their symbols isn't something that was well established prior to Friendship is Magic. It's true that it is hinted that Baby Ember has to earn her mark and was released with no symbol but all subsequent baby ponies, even newborns, were released with symbols. If it's true that a pony has to earn her mark in G1, then why would newborns have symbols, when they cannot even talk yet?
Ah. I stand corrected on that one. Doesn't make her a blank flank though. That's strictly a G4 term.
Quote from: LadyMoondancer on February 24, 2016, 08:18:01 AMActually Cotton Candy's symbol was indeed meant to be an appaloosa pattern. Originally the plan was that MLPs would be "real horse" colors with real horse patterns. Then the idea evolved to "fantasy colors" with real-horse patterns. This is seen in the Year 1 commercial, where ALL the Collector ponies have appaloosa spots, and also on front of the Year 1 backcard, and on this Year 1 brochure:visitors can't see pics , please register or loginBy the time they were actually released, someone had come up with the idea of giving them all separate symbols (probably got the idea from Care Bears). However, Cotton Candy's symbol never changed, so she retained her spots.I know a lot of people interpret her symbol as little bits of cotton or cotton candy, but in terms of "what did the artist have in mind when they drew it", it's really not meant to be anything but random spots.Anyway, I think this topic was meant to be a fun hypothetical. That's really interesting! Never seen that picture before.
Quote from: brighteyes on February 24, 2016, 06:32:34 AMI don't think I'm following you.... to my knowledge there were no prototypes of Cotton Candy or Sweetheart that were released without symbols. Also, the idea of ponies earning their symbols isn't something that was well established prior to Friendship is Magic. It's true that it is hinted that Baby Ember has to earn her mark and was released with no symbol but all subsequent baby ponies, even newborns, were released with symbols. If it's true that a pony has to earn her mark in G1, then why would newborns have symbols, when they cannot even talk yet? Actually, you are making the mistake of assuming something that G1 clearly started as something G4 started.If you look at the back cards before the point where any resembled of story was removed from them, you would see the occasion story that dealt with the different types marks. The ponies earned their flank symbols or other type of mark rather than be born with them in every 1 of those stories.Quote from: Leave a Whisper on February 24, 2016, 08:27:21 AMAh. I stand corrected on that one. Doesn't make her a blank flank though. That's strictly a G4 term.Actually, blank flank simply means: pony without a cutie mark. The G1 term for cutie marks is flank symbols. Hence a pony without a flank symbol is a blank flank.
I don't really think I'm making a mistake or misunderstanding anything here. I've been collecting G1 since the early 80's and watched all the shows as a kid. I've read most of the back card stories and I literally have no idea where you are getting these ideas. It's fine for you to have this perception of G1, but it doesn't make it what the creators of G1 actually intended. Answer my question then- if G1 ponies had to earn their symbols as in G4, why do newborn babies have symbols? Why is Ember the one and ONLY pony released without a symbol?ETA: The idea is so silly... I kind of wonder, are we being trolled here lolAnd also, can you please post photos of where Cotton Candy and Sweetheart were released without symbols?
Quote from: brighteyes on February 24, 2016, 09:03:10 AMI don't really think I'm making a mistake or misunderstanding anything here. I've been collecting G1 since the early 80's and watched all the shows as a kid. I've read most of the back card stories and I literally have no idea where you are getting these ideas. It's fine for you to have this perception of G1, but it doesn't make it what the creators of G1 actually intended. Answer my question then- if G1 ponies had to earn their symbols as in G4, why do newborn babies have symbols? Why is Ember the one and ONLY pony released without a symbol?ETA: The idea is so silly... I kind of wonder, are we being trolled here lolAnd also, can you please post photos of where Cotton Candy and Sweetheart were released without symbols? Well over here is 1 of the later back cards that show that even as foals, the ponies need to earn their symbols rather than be born with them.The reason most ponies at the time were being sold with flank symbols on was because of trying to put individuality into the toys since there was so few body shapes and mane styles at the time.And the reason I put the links in the original post was as additional support that Cotton Candy and Sweetheart were blank flanks during their respective original releases.