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Pony Talk => Off Topic => Topic started by: dragonfly on November 07, 2016, 09:10:00 AM
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well???
I voted absentee and sent in my ballot already
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My state (Alabama) does not offer early voting, so I have to vote on Election Day :( Also, there is no law in AL that requires employers to grant time off so workers can go vote. So I'll probably be late to work because the lines are usually quite long (polls are open 7am to 7pm and if you work a 12 hour shift or two jobs...) and will loose $ and irritate my irrational boss. BUT voting is so important I don't care (even though my vote doesn't really matter because I don't live in a swing state).
All in all I'll be so glad for this election to be over!
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I will tomorrow, at some point.
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My state (Alabama) does not offer early voting, so I have to vote on Election Day :( Also, there is no law in AL that requires employers to grant time off so workers can go vote. So I'll probably be late to work because the lines are usually quite long (polls are open 7am to 7pm and if you work a 12 hour shift or two jobs...) and will loose $ and irritate my irrational boss. BUT voting is so important I don't care (even though my vote doesn't really matter because I don't live in a swing state).
All in all I'll be so glad for this election to be over!
That is ridiculous (especially the lack of early voting). I thought all states had to give time off to vote, yikes!
I voted on Friday at our local Supervisor of Elections because my voter card hadn't come in at that point so we went there to make sure my registration had gone through, so I just voted there. That and being in Florida I don't really wanna be around polls on the actual day.. especially in my pretty rural area (both for where I live, but where my polling station seems to be).
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Voted early last week!
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I didn't even know early voting was a thing. This will be my first election where I didn't require an absentee ballot due to being over 500 miles from home.
I'm planning to do everything I can to vote tomorrow but it might be tricky to get it in with an orthodontist appointment, work, and a part time job interview. :/
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I've already voted. By mail on October 22nd. My state does all ballots by mail.
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I have had a heck of a time with voting. My mom and I both cast early voting ballots because I have an important doctors appointment on Tuesday. We sent them in last week. Saturday night I got a letter back saying my ballot was rejected because I forgot to check off one little box. I freaked out a bit, but my mom calmed me down and now we will figure out what to do. Either I can fill out the ballot and take it directly to the voting location or just vote the regular way. I will be relieved when the election is over, it has been so stressful.
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I'll be voting tomorrow. I work early, so I'll be headed to the polls as soon as I get out.
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I'll be voting the regular way tomorrow, on election day. I didn't even know you could vote early. I am getting up extra early tomorrow around 5:30 AM and voting before I have to be at work at 8AM. I hope the polls aren't too busy that time of the morning.
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Already voted by mail! So ready for this all to be over
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I live in Virginia but I'm an Ohio resident, so I voted early by absentee ballot. Checked the status the other day and mine was received and counted!
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I haven't decided yet if I'm going to vote.
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I highly encourage everyone to VOTE! :cool:
Here's a 3 min vlogbrothers vid on why we all should:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avj7XUDCdEk
(I show this to my students every semester...it's from 2014 and I promise, completely free of any nauseating details from the current presidential election.)
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I'm voting tomorrow, I don't really like any of the people running but I figure, hey, it's my civic duty at a citizen of the united states. It'll be like ripping off a bandaid. nice and quick.
I just want the dumb political advertisements to be over. XD
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It varies from state to state. Most states only allow in-person voting on election day unless you will not be available and can receive an absentee ballot. Some states have early in-person voting. Others have early mail-in voting.
And go out and vote. It's your civic duty.
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I haven't decided yet if I'm going to vote.
I would urge you to go out and vote! It's going to be a close election, and every vote counts :)
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My state allows early voting so I've already voted. :)
Ponyfan
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I haven't decided yet if I'm going to vote.
PLEASE vote. Remember, it's not only the presidential race on the ballots - there are other national, state, and local races and propositions as well, and each one is important. Even if you feel that your vote for president doesn't count, because of the Electoral College or because you vote the opposite of the majority in your state, remember that your vote absolutely counts for down-ballot candidates and local propositions.
Voting is a right and a privilege that shouldn't be taken lightly or for granted, and this election matters more than any we've had in quite a while, because it's sure to be a close race.
I already knew which presidential candidate I was voting for, so I researched all my down-ballot candidates and the proposition for my city, and voted the week before last. ^.^
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Already voted via early ballot :). And checked our online system and its been received and counted.
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Can't vote yet. Will be voting early in the morning.
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I dont think I can vote from here. I'm registered to vote in Fairbanks, Alaska...
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I haven't decided yet if I'm going to vote.
PLEASE vote. Remember, it's not only the presidential race on the ballots - there are other national, state, and local races and propositions as well, and each one is important. Even if you feel that your vote for president doesn't count, because of the Electoral College or because you vote the opposite of the majority in your state, remember that your vote absolutely counts for down-ballot candidates and local propositions.
Voting is a right and a privilege that shouldn't be taken lightly or for granted, and this election matters more than any we've had in quite a while, because it's sure to be a close race.
I already knew which presidential candidate I was voting for, so I researched all my down-ballot candidates and the proposition for my city, and voted the week before last. ^.^
Agreed. Please vote. Voting is your right and your privilege and something that people have worked very hard for. It's important to let your voice be heard. If there's any issue that you care about, you can't make any difference unless you cast a ballot.
As for me, I'm voting tomorrow after classes. :)
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I voted a while ago I am in rural so its all mail/drop off ballots lol. :P
PLEASE PLEASE GET OUT AND VOTE!
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not in the US but i wouldn't have voted trump ,he's a scare mongerer ! and a sexist !
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I will be voting today. Presidential still scares the crap out of me and today will be intense. My fiancé won't vote either even though I have reminded him about the local and other things than just the presidential election. Frustrating to me but his choice. He will not be allowed to continue to complain about it though around me if he doesn't. Can't stand that from anyone.
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Voting after work today! Black people and women fought for my right as a black woman to vote, and I won't be taking that for granted.
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He will not be allowed to continue to complain about it though around me if he doesn't. Can't stand that from anyone.
This!
I've said it before, but if someone is like "I'm not voting." but they complain about the outcome? Sorry, you didn't exactly help the situation so shhhh!
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I would if I could. Our house is pretty active about it.
I may not be American but whatever happens today alters MY country as well so im all ears.
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Voting after work today! Black people and women fought for my right as a black woman to vote, and I won't be taking that for granted.
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He will not be allowed to continue to complain about it though around me if he doesn't. Can't stand that from anyone.
This!
I've said it before, but if someone is like "I'm not voting." but they complain about the outcome? Sorry, you didn't exactly help the situation so shhhh!
I agree with this. My mom brags that she has never voted in her life. This angers me because women have fought so hard in the past for their rights to vote. This is the first election where she actually has some thing to say, and it's apparent which candidate she likes. Where we vote is in a rural area and a swift, easy drive five minutes down the road. It's not super busy and would just take ten minutes of her time to vote! My brother, mother, and I all got into an argument over her lack of taking time ONCE every FOUR years to just get off her arse and do something to make a difference in my country. My mother is scared to vote because my dad may be angry, because he supports Trump and my mom does not, she wants Hillary. It's her choice to pick what SHE wants. If he yells at you over this, it's crazy. If he divorces you over it, he's nuts. I don't think he will. He still loves his Hillary-voting kids. He shouldn't try to dominate who his wife votes for. She is easily pushed over. We aren't pushing her who to vote for, just to freaking vote. Like I said, she has made it apparent who she wants. Just go VOTE!!!!
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And you can count me in the voting column. My entire family has.
Also, I might be immortal according to one of the polling ladies who has been there since I started voting 14 years ago.
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I did early in-person voting! This is the first presidential election I can vote in, but I just want it to be over. :lol:
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I think everyone wants it to be over at this point. I can't take any more of looking at media coverage and thinking 'there cannot be people that awful in this world.'
And people wonder why I prefer ponies. -_-
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voted early here.... dad not happy with my choice.
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I just got home from the voting station, so I've officially voted for my first time.
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Polls have closed in most of Indiana and about half of Kentucky. The first complete states will close momentarily.
GA: Trump
VA: Clinton
IN: Trump
KY: Trump
VT: Clinton
SC: Trump
OH: Trump
NC: Trump
WV: Trump
FL: Trump
PA: Too close to call
NH: Too close to call
IL: Clinton
NJ: Clinton
MA: Clinton
TN: Trump
MD: Clinton
AL: Trump
OK: Trump
CT: Clinton
MS: Trump
RI: Clinton
DE: Clinton
DC: Clinton
MO: Trump
ME: Too early to call
AR: Trump
MI: Too close to call
AZ: Too early to call
WI: Too early to call
CO: Clinton
TX: Trump
KS: Trump
LA: Trump
NE: Trump
NY: Clinton
ND: Trump
SD: Trump
WY: Trump
MN: Too close to call
NM: Clinton
MT: Trump
IA: Trump
UT: Trump
NV: Too close to call
CA: Clinton
WA: Clinton
OR: Clinton
HI: Clinton
ID: Trump
AK: Will close at 1 AM ET
10 ET Update
Clinton 209
Trump 244
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I'm just about dying of anxiety over here. Uuuugh...
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I'm just about dying of anxiety over here. Uuuugh...
You are not the only one. We are all watching it with terrified anticipation.
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I think many of us will be turning to ponies at the end of this election. I already told my mom if my candidate doesn't win I will be on ebay tonight.
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I voted via absentee ballot a few weeks ago, since I moved out of my home county. Although I have a very strong opinion about which political candidate should win, I voted more for the state propositions since my state always votes one way and that way is not mine, so my presidential vote is meaningless. Yay.
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This is making me sick. This is turning into Brexit all over again. 2016 is looking like the year of nativism.
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This race is crazy. I don't even want to watch anymore lol.
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It's going to be a long night, and I'm so scared for the results. My mom is an immigrant. I voted, I prayed. It's out of our hands now.
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At this point, I'm barely restraining bawling as I watch the electoral map.
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At this point, I'm barely restraining bawling as I watch the electoral map.
Me, too. This is not the America I was raised to believe in.
Regardless of how the election actually ends, it's already too late. My faith (in this nation as a whole) is already gone, and I'm scared.
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I'm so ashamed of this country right now.
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I'm so ashamed of this country right now.
You're not alone.
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I, too, am severely ashamed. :( I thought we were better than this. It shouldn't be this tight when you look at the two candidates. I did vote, though, and I'm very pleased with who took our state(California) at least.
I'm literally scared right now. :yikes:
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I'm so ashamed of this country right now.
Same here. I can't believe this is about to happen.
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I am DISGUSTED.
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I'm going to puke. I personally apologize for the STUPIDITY of my state.
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I always thought the bigots, masochists and racists were a vocal minority. Guess I was wrong because they've surely crawled out of the woodwork.
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Same here. I can't believe this is about to happen.
I'm so worried. I didn't want Trump supporters to have the satisfaction...
On the other hand, this country doesn't deserve nice things anyway. We had President Obama for 8 years and people still managed to make it seem like he ruined our country, as if they forgot who was in office the 8 years prior to that.
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I always thought the bigots, masochists and racists were a vocal minority. Guess I was wrong because they've surely crawled out of the woodwork.
A big problem is the third party vote, too (though you could put that under masochists...). Trump might not have won Florida if it wasn't for that, for example.
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I'm so disgusted right now. And afraid. I mean, I would be lying if I said I didn't sometimes think that America had its problems with sexism and racism as someone who's female and Latina, but I never thought that it would be this overwhelming. Add me as another on this list who's truly ashamed of this country for the first time right now.
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I always thought the bigots, masochists and racists were a vocal minority. Guess I was wrong because they've surely crawled out of the woodwork.
A big problem is the third party vote, too. Trump might not have won Florida if it wasn't for that, for example.
Also, the bigots, misogynists, and racists see this as their last chance to leave their mark on the country. Also, too many people want to take a bomb to Washington, and that's what Trump is in their eyes.
Anger, hate, fear, and stupidity are winning tonight.
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I always thought the bigots, masochists and racists were a vocal minority. Guess I was wrong because they've surely crawled out of the woodwork.
A big problem is the third party vote, too. Trump might not have won Florida if it wasn't for that, for example.
Plus there is the " I really hate Trump, but I'm not going to vote because ______" angle as well.
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I always thought the bigots, masochists and racists were a vocal minority. Guess I was wrong because they've surely crawled out of the woodwork.
A big problem is the third party vote, too. Trump might not have won Florida if it wasn't for that, for example.
Plus there is the " I really hate Trump, but I'm not going to vote because ______" angle as well.
I hate that kind of bizarre learned helplessness behavior. I mean, at least TRY to do something.
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Option 5, and fairly grateful for that. I'm sorry US arena folk, but there's still a chance for a turnover. I did snicker that, apparently, Canada's immigration site crashed earlier today...
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I always thought the bigots, masochists and racists were a vocal minority. Guess I was wrong because they've surely crawled out of the woodwork.
And this is what is so scary.
Even though I'm well aware of the amount of sexism, racism, etc. present in the USA, I didn't think that someone like Trump who wears all of these with pride could possibly actually win an election.
Even if somehow he doesn't win (very unlikely at this point, sadly) the damage has been done. It speaks volumes of this nation, and it is not only disheartening but incredibly scary.
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....................WTF America? ......... :pout:
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Not even sure what this country is anymore. :yikes:
Embarassed and afraid
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He didn't wint because people like him, he won because people are sick of the establisment.
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America, you dissapoint me
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I, um... Feel bad for you. Honestly, I was sort of secretly rooting for Trump, because I'm afraid Putin would have gone to war against Clinton, and Russia is scary close to Norway :yikes:
But listen, I've got a nice pair of spare bedrooms... You're all welcome to come live with me once Trump starts a war.
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I, um... Feel bad for you. Honestly, I was sort of secretly rooting for Trump, because I'm afraid Putin would have gone to war against Clinton, and Russia is scary close to Norway :yikes:
But listen, I've got a nice pair of spare bedrooms... You're all welcome to come live with me once Trump starts a war.
Same here, I hope the relationship between Russia and the US will improve the following years. Scared to death for WW3 since we're basically in between them. I'm not going to judge now since we don't know how he will be. Guess we'll have to wait till January 2017 to figure it out.
Now I'm curious about the dutch elections next year. Also a bit of chaos going on this time.
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So scared...
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I always thought the bigots, masochists and racists were a vocal minority. Guess I was wrong because they've surely crawled out of the woodwork.
I thought the same thing. Every room I was ever in with a Trump supporter spouting off, there were only a few of them and the hate filled the room so I figured maybe 20% sounding like more than half...guess I underestimated my country again. I once believed it was what they teach us it is in grade school, but that's all lies. My country is full of hate and stupidity and has decided to take itself straight to hell.
To answer the posting question, I live in a state that always goes democrat so my presidential vote doesn't matter so I wrote in Twilight Sparkle for President cuz she gets things done. I voted on all the propositions and measures except three, which I abstained on for various reasons, and on all the positions where I knew the candidates I voted my conscience. On some I didn't know the people so for each of those I wrote in a pony name, specifically: Wind Whistler for a city council seat, Diamond Tiara for a transit director, Silver Spoon for a parks job, Bright Eyes for something I forgot what and there was no opponent to an evil incumbent city attorney so I wrote in Rainbow Dash for that one.
None of my ponies won, can you believe that? What has it all come to.
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I'm upset, but we'll see how things go. Not optimistic in the slightest though.
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You where this went off the rails? When Comey poked his head out and said he was investigating Clinton emails again. How the news was handled was terrible and Clinton was never going recover from that so close ld to the election. Obama should call Comey into his office and say plainly "You're fired!"
The worries about Clinton's emails and the Clinton Foundation depressed would be Clinton voters just enough for her to lose too many states. She lost PA and WI by razor thin margins. Looking at the remaining vote left to be counted, so might pull it out in Michigan and New Hampshire. This issue probably also cost the Democrats in three or four Senate seats, enough to flip that house of congress. They could have also cut deeper into the House majority.
However, yes, the angry white people came out to vote. This is brexit where the tribalism reared its ugly head. The result is someone who has never done any public service and destroyed those who worked with and for him to build his fortune.
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I, um... Feel bad for you. Honestly, I was sort of secretly rooting for Trump, because I'm afraid Putin would have gone to war against Clinton, and Russia is scary close to Norway :yikes:
But listen, I've got a nice pair of spare bedrooms... You're all welcome to come live with me once Trump starts a war.
Considering Trump wants to stop paying the fees to UN and dislikes Nato and talked about leaving, chance is he wont do a thing if Putin decides to invade Finland and the Baltic countries. Hillary was the safe haven, not Trump.
Just found out all my relatives across the pond voted for Trump. I am devastaded. :(
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I work in healthcare and see the disaster Obamacare is on a daily basis. I have to do precerts. My patients are again dropping ins because of cost but now having a fine!! My ins is insane!! I work and it's nuts! My deductible is five grand. I pay something like 200/check to. And prices go up this year. Just got the pack but haven't looked.
So yeah. People that get completely free ins may have seen some improvement. Those that pay for it were screwed. Those are the people that came out and voted. We are not women hating racists. I work with this stuff every day. I used to volunteer for the Democratic Party for gods sake!! They made a joke of themselves this year!!
And talk about being a bully!! The way the dnc ran their campaign was disgusting. All they did was act like it was a big click of celebrity and if you vote for him you are a women hating bigot. What?! Give me a break. That backfired on them. I see the failure at work everyday. I don't care what Beyoncé tells me to do. Sorry but I care about my patients and what is killing them and services they can not get and this year many are not going to have ins again. It's a disgusting system. And don't even get me started on all different kinds of assistance fraud that "doesn't exist".
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Texas sickens me....I'm not surprised though. :pout:
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He didn't wint because people like him, he won because people are sick of the establisment.
I think this is true.
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Texas sickens me....I'm not surprised though. :pout:
We're not all Trump supporters. Myself and most of my friends who live here are disgusted and afraid right now.
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I don't know much about how you vote there, I have friends and colleagues who are american, as far as I can tell they were all with her. Still I have latino relatives that I know for sure did vote for Trump. So I guess the majority had a good reason to do so, and not for Clinton. Maybe it is a symptom that something is really wrong right now. Politics are getting really weird this time. UK voted for Brexit, Spain voted twice for a thief and a leader that took the country to the wastelands, and here in France we have not many choices, they all look the same. So when people would vote for Marine Lepen that will not surprise me at all. People all aover the world is getting tired of the politics we have right now (except in some places where they are so afraid of change that they prefer the bad to the unknown.)
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Texas sickens me....I'm not surprised though. :pout:
We're not all Trump supporters. Myself and most of my friends who live here are disgusted and afraid right now.
I know we're all not, i'm sure as flaming heck not! But Texas is a Republican state, so it doesn't surprise me that the state went for Trump.
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I, um... Feel bad for you. Honestly, I was sort of secretly rooting for Trump, because I'm afraid Putin would have gone to war against Clinton, and Russia is scary close to Norway :yikes:
But listen, I've got a nice pair of spare bedrooms... You're all welcome to come live with me once Trump starts a war.
Considering Trump wants to stop paying the fees to UN and dislikes Nato and talked about leaving, chance is he wont do a thing if Putin decides to invade Finland and the Baltic countries. Hillary was the safe haven, not Trump.
Don't forget arming Japan with nukes. Here comes WW3, it's just a matter of if it starts in East Europe or East Asia at this point.
I was less than a year too young to vote. I feel so helpless.
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I, um... Feel bad for you. Honestly, I was sort of secretly rooting for Trump, because I'm afraid Putin would have gone to war against Clinton, and Russia is scary close to Norway :yikes:
But listen, I've got a nice pair of spare bedrooms... You're all welcome to come live with me once Trump starts a war.
Considering Trump wants to stop paying the fees to UN and dislikes Nato and talked about leaving, chance is he wont do a thing if Putin decides to invade Finland and the Baltic countries. Hillary was the safe haven, not Trump.
Don't forget arming Japan with nukes. Here comes WW3, it's just a matter of if it starts in East Europe or East Asia at this point.
I was less than a year too young to vote. I feel so helpless.
Living in Texas, you would still feel so even if you had voted. Just like I, living in Oklahoma, feel incredibly helpless even though I did vote.
The entire state voted Republican again. My Bible Belt state has revealed to me that they have no values.
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I work in healthcare and see the disaster Obamacare is on a daily basis. I have to do precerts. My patients are again dropping ins because of cost but now having a fine!! My ins is insane!! I work and it's nuts! My deductible is five grand. I pay something like 200/check to. And prices go up this year. Just got the pack but haven't looked.
So yeah. People that get completely free ins may have seen some improvement. Those that pay for it were screwed. Those are the people that came out and voted. We are not women hating racists. I work with this stuff every day. I used to volunteer for the Democratic Party for gods sake!! They made a joke of themselves this year!!
And talk about being a bully!! The way the dnc ran their campaign was disgusting. All they did was act like it was a big click of celebrity and if you vote for him you are a women hating bigot. What?! Give me a break. That backfired on them. I see the failure at work everyday. I don't care what Beyoncé tells me to do. Sorry but I care about my patients and what is killing them and services they can not get and this year many are not going to have ins again. It's a disgusting system. And don't even get me started on all different kinds of assistance fraud that "doesn't exist".
Obama care is the biggest joke the US has ever had to deal with. Most people in my area can't even afford insurance myself included. And those that can probably won't be able to after the raise in the premiums. My area relies heavily on coal and Mr. Obama felt the need to destroy the coal industry Because to him coal is a dirty resource. It seems that most people wanna take their country back. They are sick of seeing it be run into the ground day in and day out. And I'm gonna stop there.
I also wanna say that not all people that voted for Trump are bigots, masochists and racist.
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I work in healthcare and see the disaster Obamacare is on a daily basis. I have to do precerts. My patients are again dropping ins because of cost but now having a fine!! My ins is insane!! I work and it's nuts! My deductible is five grand. I pay something like 200/check to. And prices go up this year. Just got the pack but haven't looked.
So yeah. People that get completely free ins may have seen some improvement. Those that pay for it were screwed. Those are the people that came out and voted. We are not women hating racists. I work with this stuff every day. I used to volunteer for the Democratic Party for gods sake!! They made a joke of themselves this year!!
And talk about being a bully!! The way the dnc ran their campaign was disgusting. All they did was act like it was a big click of celebrity and if you vote for him you are a women hating bigot. What?! Give me a break. That backfired on them. I see the failure at work everyday. I don't care what Beyoncé tells me to do. Sorry but I care about my patients and what is killing them and services they can not get and this year many are not going to have ins again. It's a disgusting system. And don't even get me started on all different kinds of assistance fraud that "doesn't exist".
Obama care is the biggest joke the US has ever had to deal with. Most people in my area can't even afford insurance myself included. And those that can probably won't be able to after the raise in the premiums. My area relies heavily on coal and Mr. Obama felt the need to destroy the coal industry Because to him coal is a dirty resource. It seems that most people wanna take their country back. They are sick of seeing it be run into the ground day in and day out. And I'm gonna stop there.
I also wanna say that not all people that voted for Trump are bigots, masochists and racist.
Beautifully stated!
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Please remember this is OT. The land of rainbows and cotton candy. I know this is a topic with a lot of emotion and it's hard for everyone to stay positive. However, if you can't, please go to the WYP thread and keep OT happy. Thank you.
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Oh I love the sound of that the land of cotton candy and rainbows. Perhaps we should all just grab some ponies and head there together for a fun day of full of pony goodness. It is just the kind of thing we all need.
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Twilight sparkle for president in this land of rainbow and cotton candy!
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please. we have no presidents in the land of rainbows and cotton candy. we don't need them. everyone is happy and gets along all the time.
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Wow. Hillary won the popular vote.
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Wow. Hillary won the popular vote.
It's 2000 all over again... Al Gore, the President that should've been, but never was. :cry:
Can we please do away with the Electoral College? It's a horrible system.
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oh sorry kaoskat for my part I didn't even realize this thread was in OT...
Everyone happy and gets along all the time in the land of rainbows and cotton candy?...sounds like a G3 paradise!
Can you tell me how to get, how to get to [the land of rainbows and cotton candy] like the sesame street song. As a kid I always wondered why no one would answer that question for us and now I really really need to know!
As to the substantive issue....the only thing I can think of that explains what happened is that a lot of people must have fallen into that terribly unfair gap in Obamacare.
Rainbowrific Renia, the electoral college is never going away and is doing exactly what is it intended to do but I can't really elaborate on it without further violating the rules of off topic....there is absolutely no electoral college in the land of rainbows and cotton candy. Hey I want some cotton candy!
***watches hopes for the universal basic pony allowance fade...
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Did all the votes get tallied up? I know Hillary was leading but it was soo close that it could shift either way.
Regardless of what happens unity should hopefully be the main goal right now <3
couldn't help but notice that Hillary was wearing purple today--red AND blue ^^
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Did all the votes get tallied up? I know Hillary was leading but it was soo close that it could shift either way.
Regardless of what happens unity should hopefully be the main goal right now <3
couldn't help but notice that Hillary was wearing purple today--red AND blue ^^
It ended about 1-2AM EST, Trump won.
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Things get odd now. Technically, Trump hasn't won MI, PA, and WI. They are votes that will take longer to process because they're provisional or absentee. It could take days for them to process. It's possible those states could even flip. At which point we'll be in complete chaos as suddenly it's President Elect Clinton.
Also, in those states, Jill Stein's votes would have tipped MI and WI to Clinton if they were votes for her.
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Clinton conceded the election which means she or her campaign cannot ask for recounts. Basically she knows she lost and went out as gracefully as she could.
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Rainbowrific Renia, the electoral college is never going away and is doing exactly what is it intended to do but I can't really elaborate on it without further violating the rules of off topic....there is absolutely no electoral college in the land of rainbows and cotton candy. Hey I want some cotton candy!
Oh, I know that. I know exactly what its point is but when the popular vote shows a different outcome and we let a certain group of people determine a winner, it just feels useless. I'm aware that it isn't going away, but that doesn't make it any less frustrating that we have to deal with it. A popular vote should be exactly that- the most people voted this way, so that's how it goes. I truly understand why so many people feel that their vote doesn't matter and I can't even be mad at them.
Anyway, rainbows and cotton candy!
It's raining today, so I'm hoping the sun will peek out and a rainbow will come with it. I think a lot of us need that today. ^.^
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Things get odd now. Technically, Trump hasn't won MI, PA, and WI. They are votes that will take longer to process because they're provisional or absentee. It could take days for them to process. It's possible those states could even flip. At which point we'll be in complete chaos as suddenly it's President Elect Clinton.
Also, in those states, Jill Stein's votes would have tipped MI and WI to Clinton if they were votes for her.
This comes down to electoral votes left to actually win and beat his numbers. There are not enough. The race is over. Check out CNN for the current map on that.
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Question! What is the electoral college? I looked it up, but it seems terribly pointless. What is it and what is its purpose?
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The electoral college is a group of representatives selected in strange ways that represent the number of presidential electors from each state...there is I believe one elector for each Senator and one for each Representative (meaning the same number as for each Congressional representative for each state) and theoretically all the electors from a state are supposed to vote together for the candidate that state's majority selects to be President. In reality, the electors actually have discretion and cannot be challenged if they don't vote according to the majority and the rules of how they are selected are different for each state and it's a very arcane process that is very mysterious to most of the electorate.
The advertised reason for the electoral college is that it is impractical to actually tally all the popular votes of the citizens and it's a device to get the right answer: which is why people have been saying for decades it should be replaced because popular vote is now easy to tally with modern technology. But in reality, the electoral college was never about technical issues tallying votes but a direct result of the elite fearing the "mob" following Bacon's Rebellion where citizens took over a state government (whicvh state was that? forgot) when it wasn't acting according to the popular interests....as part of selling the Constitution to the States for ratification, the States were promised the "mob" (meaning the popular electorate) could never seize the presidency from the elites because the electoral college would ensure domination by the elites. Along with the 2/5th rule for counting slaves as population when determining number of searts for each State in the House of Representatives and promises (that thankfully went unfulfilled) that the Bill of Rights would never be added to the Constitution, the electoral college was one of the barriers to popular democracy that got many of the Southern states to ratify the Constitution.
A lot of Americans don't know this because the majority of us are fed lies in public education and are willfully prevented from moving on to college where we learn the truths like the real reasons for the electoral college and that the Bill of Rights was never supposed to happen. It's because of the "mob" threatening revolution that the Bill of Rights was then added on to preserve the Union finally the Federalist Papers, which we are all told explain why the Founders all promised us individual rights, in fact actually explain all this and why the elites can ratify the Constitution without fear of the electorate actually having any democratic power or individual rights. A lot of people have died bringing us to where we are now in the civil war and before that, and all the rights stuff since the 60s etc and much of that progress is now under threat by the new Republican "elite"-class domination.
But...still rainbows and cotton candy because we've come a long way since then even with Trump and the rest coming soon.
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This election has caused me to close down my Facebook account. Or rather, I will be deactivating it tonight. I had a friend who bashed the other side in my face, gloated when he won, and when I had one negative thing to say, he really smarted off. I'm tired of this social media drama. That's why I come here. This place is kinda like my social internet safe haven where we all get along and discuss happy things like ponies, games, dolls, food, etc.
I, like a lot of you all, am surprised at the outcome, but it's not a good surprise. I just hope he manages to keep peace with our allies for the next four years. I'm actually kind of embarrassed by this election and who won to all you international ponies. I don't like this to be a representation of what people in the USA are like. Trump does not represent me as a US citizen.
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People really need to practice humility Dazzle. That is just nuts to act that way no matter what candidate you are for or against. It is important to hear out both sides and I was never one to think it was good to push what you feel politically speaking on others. A good friend allows their friends independent thought even when they do not agree. We all have differences of opinion which is healthy and a precious right for us all. Some of what you feel is the exact reason I left Facebook. The drama from things not related to politics was getting to me also and to tell you the truth, I have not missed it at all.
On a positive note: I can't wait to get a pony I got for my birthday in the mail.
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Why are there 4 threads (this one and 3 in the "What's Your Problem" forum) bashing Trump? I can't stand Obama, but I never posted that anywhere until now. I was bummed when he got a second term, but I didn't bash him all over the place.
I'm not trying to start anything; I'm just wondering why we have multiple negative threads?
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Why are there 4 threads (this one and 3 in the "What's Your Problem" forum) bashing Trump? I can't stand Obama, but I never posted that anywhere until now. I was bummed when he got a second term, but I didn't bash him all over the place.
I'm not trying to start anything; I'm just wondering why we have multiple negative threads?
This is the lighter discussion of the 4. *hands cookies and cocoa around*
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I have missed out on two of our four trump bashing threads?? But seriously,
He has said he's going to do a lot of bad things to a lot of people and he has a majority in Congress to do what he wants. It's very scary for many especially those he has directly stated he will attack.
I've participated in strong words against him, and for good reasons, there are many aspects of my life that stand to be diminished greatly by his threatened actions: where I work and make money, my health care, my educational funds, and what he plans to do to the common law I depend on for my future.
Nonetheless when I saw a brief blurb on the news today with a clip of something he said today I felt sudden hope: he at least momentarily not acting the schoolyard bully we have known for the last year or more and it occurred to me that like it or not, he is our president elect and we don't really know what he'll do...it is possible that, like so many candidates, all that puffing doesn't really reflect the person who is to be our leader and he is unconventional. I remember a time decades ago when I really liked that dork-butt and a moment recently on the jimmy fallon show where you could see he was being made fun of and he was being a good sport about it. So while there is likely a lot of pain ahead, and a lot of Trump supporters will inevitably be very disappointed, in my opinion, some of us who fear greatly might be pleasantly surprised.
At least there is hope, anyway. The next four years is truly the undiscovered country and we aren't going to know what we will find there until we get there, so...it's early to despair. We need to suck it up and sally forth, and keep a stiff upper lip.
That being said now everypony must believe I am bipolar because over the last 24 hours I've been as bad a trump basher as anyone so....that's acceptance for you. I guess.
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I think one thing we all need to remember, regardless of where we stand in relation to what has happened, is that we still have our wonderful community here. That community exists because of our tolerance / acceptance of peoples' individuality and right to make choices without fear of being mocked or judged. Even if you feel like the rest of the earth is shaking, this is solid ground.
Further, there is a tremendous difference between supporting a candidate because you endorse their personal actions vs. supporting the goals of their campaign. The two are not, and in no way need to be, bound together.
Let's find out what Trump can and will actually do. Regardless of what that ends up being, there is no reason for it to erode the kindness, compassion and quality of our community.