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Pony Talk => Pony Corral => Topic started by: loverofbalto on March 13, 2013, 08:07:59 AM
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For awhile I was willing to call myself a Brony, but now I realize I am nothing like them. I really like My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, but I don't go as far as some fans do. I like the show for the fun stories, the beautiful and catchy songs, and the great development of the characters. I don't much care for the dark stories. It really bothered me when someone who wanted art from me of his pony character asks for a piece of him stabbing Celestia, because he is part of a group called the Luna Republic. I'm sorry to those who are into that, but that to me is just horrible. My favorite princess is Princess Luna, but that doesn't mean I would wish death and destruction upon Princess Celestia. I have yet to tell him how I feel, but I will be sharing with him my feelings about it.
From this day forward I want to be called a collector or a fan. I have liked My Little Pony from the beginning and will collect the toys from multiple generations (I admit I bought some of the newborn cuties and one or two of the G3.5) I will draw ponies from all generations and happily talk about my little pony with all fans, but I do not want to be labeled as a Brony. I just feel that they take it too far at times and that's not me. I collect the toys, will buy a t-shirt or two, and watch the show. That is all.
Please tell me I'm not the only one that feels this way. I know the arena supports all forms of My Little Pony, but I am just curious to know who else feels this way. If you don't want to post a message here feel free to private message me.
Sorry to take up space, but this was something I wanted to get off my chest.
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You are not alone :hug: I love FiM, but that doesn't mean I have to call myself brony. Neither do you.
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Yeah you're definitely not alone. I do have to thank FiM for getting me back into the world of ponies (of all gens), as I was a pony nut as a child and it's brought a lot of happiness and great memories back (at a time where I really needed something bright and happy in my life, I might add). However, I've never been a big fan of labels. Labels have a way of putting you in a box, and no one collector can be defined so cut and dry. I think I also referred to myself as a brony in a playful way to my best friend a few times in the very beginning when I started collecting, but it never really felt right. So, I'm not a brony myself, I'm just a general pony lover. My best friend does refer to herself as a brony, and she's amazing in all ways :) I say it doesn't matter if you label yourself or not, there are good and bad in all fandoms. We all love ponies, that's what matters!
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I'm with you! I only watched the first season of FiM, and consider myself more a collector and fan of the G1s and not so much the more recent styles and gens. I also agree with you about being labelled. Some of the new fans do go pretty far and I don't really feel comfortable being labelled in the same group. I'm also not really a fan of the word brony, or labels in general as cool.breeze said! As collectors and fan, just like as people, we are all different!
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You're not alone. I prefer not to be called one either. I have nothing against those who like being called bronies, but I don't think labels should ever be forced on people. This sort of reminds me of the whole "furry" thing where any artists who draw anthropomorphic art seem to get flack for not calling themselves/wanting to be called furries. :huh:
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Advance warning: this kind of topic goes downhill rapidly. This is not me taking sides necessarily, but just pointing out the past pattern of such discussions.
Could everyone do Stomper and the rest of the mods a favor of staying über calm and non-inflammatory in this thread? Thanks in advance. The probability of this thread being locked within the day is extremely high.
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It's a touchy subject for me. I try to avoid all labels just for a personal reason. While I do respect that bronies (and furries, and trekkies, etc.) exist and have a lot of sway in their respective communities, I don't want to be called one just because I'm a fan. I feel I'm not at the same level of fandom as they are.
Ah well, to each their own, right? That's what's great about having fandoms, is that the more involved people can do their thing and the less involved can enjoy their way.
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I totally agree that sometimes things can get out of hand. And me personally love Luna but that doesn't mean I want to see Celestia destroyed. I tend to think more child-like and innocent when it comes to ponies (sometimes we all need something like that in this harsh world) so I was shocked and appalled when I read that some people add such violence to MLP. Again my opinion, I prefer to keep MLP innocent. I do like FiM but I'll always favor G1s.
Anyways each to their own.
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I had always thought "bronies" were just boys that liked MLP - I was happy when I learned of it, because I figured it just meant that society was evolving enough such that boys would finally not be stigmatized for playing with traditionally "girly" toys- and THAT would be awesome!
I have now learned (mostly through this board) of some of the more bizarre fan groups that appear to be associated with FiM, and realize those people do also label themselves as "bronies" and can understand why you would want not to associate with the name, since it brings all new (and negative) connotations to the definition "brony."
Ultimately, I think that "brony" means what you want it to mean, but I suspect a lot of people feel the way you do, and totally understand that you would want to distance yourself from a label that would associate you with some of the more bizarre and distasteful aspects of the fandom...
Still- some part of me still hopes that if nothing else, be they "bronies" or not, the fact that the FiM fanbase includes so many boys- will somehow have a positive effect on Western society in that maybe families won't pick on their little boys so much when they want to play ponies or dolls with their sisters or cousins.
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As someone who liked MLP before bronies i never had any desire to suddenly call myself a brony.
I love ponies of all gens so i don't think the brony community would ever work for me anyways.
Too much old gen hate. I know some may disagree but i believe there is a big difference between the collector and brony community. The problem is that everyone will assume you are a brony these days.
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Personally, I am a My Little Pony Collector.
Nobody should force you to adopt a label if you don't want it. :awake:
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I went to a convention this weekend and attended their MLP panel. But I left after a short time because they were talking only about the fan-created videos, voiceovers, and stuff like that. I just like the show and some of the toys.
I think it's the difference between being a "fan of" something and being "part of the fandom". I see the brony thing as a "fandom" thing, where there are all these in-jokes and references that just watching the show doesn't give you access to.
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I understand why you wouldn't want to take that commission. To me My Little Pony is all about goodness and innocence and fun, so I simply can't get my head around someone who can like My Little Pony but also like violence and such like. That's why I've never been a fan of the whole zombie pony thing. :shrug:
As for labels, they don't tend to be helpful in my experience, except for the ones on food and medicines! ;)
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I feel this way too...I actually have a new manager where I work and when he asked if I collect anything, I said "My Little Pony and some game merchandise, mostly" he was the first person to NOT call me a Brony and I have so much respect for him. It's almost like being called "Otaku" or "shipper" just because you watched some anime at one point or were into reading/writing fanfiction...
My new manager responded by saying "Oh, that's awesome! Some ponies are worth alot of money." Apparently, he collects comic books and gets the distinction between collector and avid, raving fan. That's cool for whoever does it, life choices and all, but MLP is my escape from violence and bad thoughts like what you've described. :( I'm so sorry that someone put you in that situation, too! *hugs* I hope it works out alright for you, dear. :heart:
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It would feel weird to suddenly pick up a new label after just being a collector for so many years. Anyway, I watch the show and buy the toys. But I don't know much about the brony world beyond that. To each their own.
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As someone who liked MLP before bronies i never had any desire to suddenly call myself a brony.
I love ponies of all gens so i don't think the brony community would ever work for me anyways.
Too much old gen hate. I know some may disagree but i believe there is a big difference between the collector and brony community. The problem is that everyone will assume you are a brony these days.
My thoughts exactly.
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I am with you too! I like all the gens in varying degrees so I prefer to just be called a collector or as pony person or something along those lines. I like it better because we are all fans/collectors so I feel more like I am including everyone in the same category and avoiding some of the labeling that comes between collectors of different gens. i'll call anyone what they enjoy to be called but I myself am just a collector.
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TBH, I don't know what to call myself. I'm still trying to figure out who I truly am, after years of pretending to be something I'm not. :/ Am I a brony? Dunno. Am I a furry? Dunno.
I must admit, I draw dark and bloody MLP art. Please don't hate me for it. ^^' My art normally ends up being gory, and I think it's because of the way past events in my life have affected me. I can't draw happiness without feeling jealous of the happy characters. XD I don't kill characters because I hate them. I just draw whatever I'm feeling. :/
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I'd just like to add that there are 'extremists' in every fandom, and they are a minority; they just happen to also be the loudest and most obnoxious about their fandom. The minority of extreme bronies are ruining it for the moderate ones, imo.
I met all my closest friends due to G4, they're all bronies, male and female, and they would all feel the same as you about that commission. They don't like the darker side of the fandom, they're in it for the creativity and the joy.
Although I liked MLP before G4, I never liked it as much as I like FIM now, and I think that's partly down to the fandom. I've been to a brony convention, where I met some great, friendly people, bought some lovely art, and heard live musicians play creative songs. I did not see anything, or any attitudes that would look out of place at a G1 collecting convention. So I'm happy being called brony.
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I agree with Saiko to the extent that not all Bronies are the same. I have friends that I knew before they became Bronies. They're great people. It was just a natural thing for them to like as they were already PowerPuff fans and TV fantasy show fanatics in general.
But I don't follow the fandom like they do. Have no idea what's going on or the interest in background ponies. I just can't call myself a Brony without feeling like I should care more about that stuff. :D
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I'm not a fan of the label and never was, even before all of the negative connotations. I guess it doesn't help that I ID as a guy and got into MLP by way of the cartoon so by all accounts I fit the description of a brony, but I prefer pony fan or collector, because that's what I am. I love and collect all gens, even if G4 is still my favourite for personal reasons. I don't mind labels, they can be quite helpful and safe-feeling depending on the type of person you are, just don't want to be a brony.
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I am a collector for sure!!! Will always be :)
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It's okay for you to feel this way because fans (of any fandom) like that can sometimes be really annoying. Like some others pointed out, extreme or rabid bronies are minority, but they draw much more attention to themselves than "normal" fans. It's like when people think that all furries are perverts.
I personally consider myself a mixture of both collector and brony because I was into MLP over a decade before FiM which reminded me that I still like ponies. I like the show because it reminds me of my childhood, because it's innocent and because of the values it promotes. I also like some of the fan-made stuff. However, I joined collectors' community here on the Arena before I got into fandom. Now I do have some brony friends, but they can be a bit annoying with overused fandom jokes and stuff I don't really care about and their making fun of older gens and non canon toys (minority). The thing I hate the most on the internet is hate towards other gens and constant complaining about Hasbro (not)doing this or that.
I sometimes feel torn between the two sides :shrug:
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You're not alone and it's totally okay to not want the label, but just because someone is called a brony doesn't mean they automatically like the darker fandom efforts. All fandoms have their loud and super crazies. I totally agree with what Saiko said.. a lot of proud bronies would feel the way you do about the art request.
Personally I don't really refer to myself as a brony just because it doesn't seem to fit me. Even though I really love FiM and all.
It's like how I'm a Star Trek fan but I don't care for Deep Space Nine or Enterprise. Some Star Wars fans hate the newer 3 movies with a passion. Or how a lot of us don't care for certain gens of ponies.
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I remember a guy in highschool going on about the difference between "Trekkies" and "Trekkers". I think people involved with the thing know and care far more than outside observers.
I wouldn't be surprised if folks who know nothing about MLP start calling all pony fans "bronies" because it's become a pop culture topic lately.
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I'd just like to add that there are 'extremists' in every fandom, and they are a minority; they just happen to also be the loudest and most obnoxious about their fandom. The minority of extreme bronies are ruining it for the moderate ones, imo.
I met all my closest friends due to G4, they're all bronies, male and female, and they would all feel the same as you about that commission. They don't like the darker side of the fandom, they're in it for the creativity and the joy.
Although I liked MLP before G4, I never liked it as much as I like FIM now, and I think that's partly down to the fandom. I've been to a brony convention, where I met some great, friendly people, bought some lovely art, and heard live musicians play creative songs. I did not see anything, or any attitudes that would look out of place at a G1 collecting convention. So I'm happy being called brony.
I wish that sane majority would call out the 'extremists' a bit more...
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I really sometimes wonder what to call myself. I'm a girl who is a huge fan of FIM but I like all generations despite not having a nostalgic attachment to G1 or G2 since I grew up in the original LPS era. I actually got into MLP because I was collecting G2 LPS and ended up picking up a couple of G3 ponies in a bag with some second hand pets. I found out about the earlier Gens online (as well as many other amazing toys from the same era) and started collecting those too. However I never liked the MLP cartoons before FIM. I guess I am just a toy collector who happens to be a fan of FIM (and Littlest Pet Shop cause it is awesome). I hate labels because I like too many things and the list of labels would just be too long.
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I had always thought "bronies" were just boys that liked MLP - I was happy when I learned of it, because I figured it just meant that society was evolving enough such that boys would finally not be stigmatized for playing with traditionally "girly" toys- and THAT would be awesome!
I have now learned (mostly through this board) of some of the more bizarre fan groups that appear to be associated with FiM, and realize those people do also label themselves as "bronies" and can understand why you would want not to associate with the name, since it brings all new (and negative) connotations to the definition "brony."
Ultimately, I think that "brony" means what you want it to mean, but I suspect a lot of people feel the way you do, and totally understand that you would want to distance yourself from a label that would associate you with some of the more bizarre and distasteful aspects of the fandom...
Still- some part of me still hopes that if nothing else, be they "bronies" or not, the fact that the FiM fanbase includes so many boys- will somehow have a positive effect on Western society in that maybe families won't pick on their little boys so much when they want to play ponies or dolls with their sisters or cousins.
LOL and I would have never found out about those if it weren't for you Galactica. I had to change my userID, because one of the words in it got associated with the Bronies and oh you guys won't want to find out what it entails.
I'm a guy collector and I was happy when the Bronies first got some attention because boys + ponies weren't weird anymore, but I was dead wrong. It's worse off than before imo. Being someone who was keeping ponies since 1995, I'm happy to call myself a MLP collector, nothing more. I try to avoid the word "fan" because it gives people the idea that you will set yourself on fire. I want to be friendly and amiable, not scary and flammable.
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I feel the same way you do about this. I never have and never will call myself a Brony. I consider to call and classify myself as a pony collector.
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I feel the same way. I feel that how most Bronies enjoy FiM is different than how I enjoy it. I love the cute innocence of MLP, the strong female influences, and collecting toys. But I do not enjoy the fanon, grimdark, clop, shipping, and crossovers/ponifying of everything with FiM that a lot of Bronies tend to enjoy.
I get slapped with the furry label a lot too because I draw a lot of anthro characters, but it's usually in a very alienating way and it upsets me a lot.
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Hm.
^^ People can think or call me whatever labels/names they want-- that doesn't make me whatever label/name that they call me. People are going to think whatever, just because...
Although I personally don't think "brony" means all this negative nonsense either. Yah, some "bronies" seem to be into negative things, that make other people cringe because they stick out. But not all of them are like that. *shrug* You get that in many other fandoms too.
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I'm tepid to accept the label of brony myself. I was a fan of the original cartoon when it aired on the Disney Channel. Even today, I prefer certain G1 ponies and episodes to anything Friendship is Magic has given us. There are also certain attitudes among bronies I don't agree with (like that Hasbro is out to get them.)
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I liked ponies before FiM (though it did help me get back into collecting), so I just consider myself a collector.
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Thanks everyone for the encouraging words. Hearing that I have so many backing me up makes me feel good to be a pony collector and even a furry. For both fandoms I like certain things and other things make me feel really uncomfortable. *Hugs all my pony friends* I truly love all of you and am glad to call all of you my friends.
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Thanks everyone for the encouraging words. Hearing that I have so many backing me up makes me feel good to be a pony collector and even a furry. For both fandoms I like certain things and other things make me feel really uncomfortable. *Hugs all my pony friends* I truly love all of you and am glad to call all of you my friends.
and hugs to you, thank you for the post as i am in the same boat and feel a bit better after your words, this was kept clean and made a lot of us realize there are two forms of FIM fans.
i was slowly going away from this generation and anything fim because of the disturbing art i had seen and i love the innocents of mlp that is why i became a mlp collector, glad to see others like me. i just wish to see the violence and sexual content disappear because this is meant to be a child's toy and as i am a mother i have to be careful what my children watch of youtube because that is the only way we can view FiM
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Even though FIM was what got me started collecting ponies, I am also a little uncomfortable with being labeled a brony. My friend told me that female bronies are technically pegasisters, but I haven’t ever heard anyone else use that term, and I think even she has reverted to just using the term brony. Regardless, I prefer pony collector :happy:
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Always a My Little Pony collector, always will be...
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I'm the same way. I've enjoyed MLP since I was little and only referred to myself as a "collector of MLP." no need to get all crazy with a label that has come to have negative connotations anyway.
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I consider myself both a general MLP fan and a brony. Bronies are just like any fanbase. There are a few who make you not want to associate with the whole group, but in general I really like the brony community. But I don't think of myself as a brony more than I do a general MLP fan, or the other way around. I've got my foot in both communities. :)
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I'm a male fan and even I detest the word "brony".
I was cool with it at first, but lately it seems like there is some rediculous code of conduct bronies are supposed to abide by, and I'm supposed to love and tolerate and have a OC and read silly fanfictions. Bleh.
I love the show for what it is, I love collecting the toys, and I love creating custom sculptures.
I could do without quite a bit of "brony" culture.
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I'm pretty happy to be called The Crazy Pony Lady....this is what my husband, family and friends call me. lol. For some reason, the term "Brony" sparks images of boys and girls aged 13-21. I know that this isn't true, but that's what I picture. The flip side to that is I picture "collectors" to be aged 30-40....which I also know isn't accurate. The way I look at it though is enjoy it however you want to. So long as you aren't hurting anything....or mocking my fun, then I'm cool with it. BUT.....if you're mocking my fun, then sleep with one eye open. lol
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I don't consider myself to be a brony either, I'm a My Little Pony collector. I'm not that big a fan of the show really - I like it (it is MLP after all!) but I have only watched about half of the first season.
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Always a My Little Pony collector, always will be...
Same here :D
I do love love love the show, but I think it falls under the same title of Mylittleponycollector/fan.
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I consider myself both a general MLP fan and a brony. Bronies are just like any fanbase. There are a few who make you not want to associate with the whole group,....
You are so right! In every community whether it be religious, political, ecological, etc. (there are endless names) there are ALWAYS going to be the few "bad apples" that make you not want to associate yourself with the rest of the group. That's ok though. It just means we need to help the general public and even our own community members understand who we really are and what it is we really do.
And like I said to another collector friend of mine: This brony (for lack of a better term) thing has now reached "fad" status and is at it's peak. And what happens to fads? They inevitably die out. And when this one does, all that will be left are the true fans and collectors. We will always be here my fellow pony lovers! (LOL whoa getting a lil cheesey, sorry) And hey in the meantime, we have tons of cool new pony gear to collect! Awesome!
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I totally agree that sometimes things can get out of hand. And me personally love Luna but that doesn't mean I want to see Celestia destroyed. I tend to think more child-like and innocent when it comes to ponies (sometimes we all need something like that in this harsh world) so I was shocked and appalled when I read that some people add such violence to MLP. Again my opinion, I prefer to keep MLP innocent. I do like FiM but I'll always favor G1s.
Anyways each to their own.
I absolutely agree. I was shocked when I read the opening post. I must admit I don't really know what the "Brony" phenomenon is....could someone explain it to me please?
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I absolutely agree. I was shocked when I read the opening post. I must admit I don't really know what the "Brony" phenomenon is....could someone explain it to me please?
Super short explanation: A brony is and adult fan of MLP:FiM.
Personally I qualify as brony (I love the good side of the fandom!) but who needs labels that come with negativity? I'm a collector and a fan :biggrin:
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I cal myself a brony. (I hate Pegasister.) I am like you. I love the show and the characters and i hate grim dark fan-fics. But i will not say that i am not a brony because i have just started collecting the other Ponies. Don't let the Lunar Republic get you down, listen to Apple Cider, Chef Sandy and Princess Starry of the Bronyville Podcast and you will be good.
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Super short explanation: A brony is and adult fan of MLP:FiM.
Alternatively: a brony is an adult fan of MLP:FiM who self-identifies as a brony out of appreciation for bronydom.
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I consider myself a collector and My Little Pony fan. If someone calls me a brony, they will be corrected......severely.
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My only label is majestic.
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My only label is majestic.
HAH! Yes, I like this one!!
I used to identify as a Brony - I thought it was a cool, new title for collectors. When I realized that I was mistaken (at least for myself - other collectors are free to take the title if they please!), I dropped the title, and no longer refer to myself as such.
I do have a small problem when it comes to identifying myself, though. If people refer to me as a Brony online, I usually correct them - since online people, from the fandom, often know the difference between 'pony fan' and 'Brony.' But I'm less likely to do so offline - for example, I ran into several kids at Disneyland when I went there in my Rainbow Dash hoodie, and they excitedly told me that they were 'Bronies' and loved the show! And, well, I didn't have the heart to explain my convoluted reasoning behind why I don't like the title. :blush: So I think, depending on different situations, abandoning the title may be more confusing than simply agreeing. ^^; I just wish more people were aware that there were pony fans (yes, even rabid ones!) before Bronies!
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At 52 almost 53 years of age, what is important to me, is respecting others likes and dislikes and not trying to foster your views and ideals (or need for a label to make yourself stand out) onto others who do not wish to be lumped into that category.
I have always felt no matter what generation you are into if you are buying ponies to display then you are a collector.
The dictionary definition of collector is as follows -
col·lec·tion
noun \kə-ˈlek-shən\
Definition of COLLECTION
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: the act or process of collecting
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a : something collected; especially : an accumulation of objects gathered for study, comparison, or exhibition or as a hobby
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Kudos to all for keeping this thread civil!
Totally expected it to be locked by now!!!
Yay us ^_^
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Kudos to all for keeping this thread civil!
Totally expected it to be locked by now!!!
Yay us ^_^
I know! *checks the Arena's collective temperatures to see if they are feeling well* :lol:
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If anything, it's interesting to see how the adult fanbase of MLP has changed within last years.
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I wouldn't be comfortable being called a Brony. I respect the fandom, but I'm an old school MLP fan, my heart truely lies with G1 cartoons, comics and ponies.
MLP for me is about childhood memories, innocence and and all-round good feeling.
FiM makes me very happy to watch, I love the show. I do not collect the ponies and I don't wamt to join in discussions about the show or fanfic, or any of the seriously disturbing stuff I have unfortunately come across already. I just love the characters as they develop in the show (and Pinkie Pie :P ).
I am simply an fan/collector/nut ;)
It does make me happy to see that so many boys have joined the MLP fandom, albeit in their own way. They do bring a breath of fresh air to the hobby!
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Wow... I like violent art at times but you don't just go up to a random person and say "Draw my OC stabbing a canon character from a fandom you're a part of" That's scary.
I agree. I prefer a broader term like "Pony Fan"
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I always thought bronies were male fans of FiM specifically (not any other gen). Didn't realise it was an adult fan. I don't think you can really retroactively apply a label like that to older gens, but I'm indifferent to labels anyway. Generally, in my experience, stereotypical assumptions by people (I collect ponies - "you're a brony") just indicates their lack of knowledge about that label. And I don't mean that in a condescending manner, I literally mean if someone called me a brony because I collect G1s I would just try to explain it to them. If they were unwilling to listen, well, that says a lot more about their character than about me. Which is exactly why labels don't bother me - they're a comment on the people who apply them, not the people being labelled.
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I think it's a bit silly to label and attach certain stereotypes to people based on the toys they collect.
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All I've known of the brony label since I started collecting again last year was that it was associated with the show, I've been off the forums I browse for a few months because of things changing in my personal life so I'm not up to speed on most of this stuff.
I try to keep away from labels, and most people actually. Only my father and fiance know about my collecting because small rural towns are often full of close minded bullies so I keep it within my own world.
I don't very much like the idea of these 'killer' art works. I mean I just don't understand why you'd want to have a picture of any pony being stabbed. Although it's each to their own I guess. My UK Ponycon custom was a vampire princess called Bat-Fury which was a mild interpretation of Elizabeth Bathory. That's as close as I come to 'darkness' in ponies.
My other half pointed out that their are 'obsessive' fans for many things out there and having extreme people within a fanbase is just normal for anything with a mass following.
I'm a female collector and just identify myself as a collector and nothing else.
If this request for art upsets you just explain that you are unable to do the artwork as the subject matter disturbs and perhaps maybe find an artist on here who doesn't mind doing such art pieces and suggest that person to the individual who wants the killer artwork :)
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Wow... I like violent art at times but you don't just go up to a random person and say "Draw my OC stabbing a canon character from a fandom you're a part of" That's scary.
I agree. I prefer a broader term like "Pony Fan"
Haha.. that reminds me... XD I once got a request from a guy that asked me if I could draw a certain X-Men character completely nude and that he'd pay me XD I don't draw nudes and another thing... the character was a child :shocked:
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I basically roll with whatever title works for the time. FiM got me into ponies but a friend also got me watching older gens and their quite fun too. It also got me into the whole collecting scene and so I have that to thank it for.
I don't have a problem with people doing what they will with a fandom though. Having been on the internet a long time I just sort of got used to there being things I don't want to dabble in within different fandoms I have followed such as violence and other things of that nature. I just sort of learnt to understand that people express their enjoyment of a particular thing in their own way and to give them respect as a person. To each their own I guess.
ANYWHO... I use the term Brony when out and about because it clicks with a lot of aware people that 'Oh their a pony fan of various sorts' and keeps me from having to monologue to them so the social flow can move on :)
Otherwise I go by whatever as I collect many gens and enjoy fanworks such as art and music for all the gens :D
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Wow... I like violent art at times but you don't just go up to a random person and say "Draw my OC stabbing a canon character from a fandom you're a part of" That's scary.
I agree. I prefer a broader term like "Pony Fan"
Haha.. that reminds me... XD I once got a request from a guy that asked me if I could draw a certain X-Men character completely nude and that he'd pay me XD I don't draw nudes and another thing... the character was a child :shocked:
I would have been furious with that person. Now, I have nothing against artistic nudity but asking for a CHILD CHARACTER to be drawn naked is clearly pedo-enabling and quite frankly, disgusting. We need less people in the world into that stuff. I would have reported that guy.
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Before FIM came along I was just a collector (I got hooked because I found a few G3s while looking for LPS and it just kinda grew from there). To me a collector is someone who simply collects and usually has no interest in the any other aspect of it. I was not a fan of the earlier cartoons at all. Then FIM came along and I loved it. One of my friends has a habit of using "bro" as a gender neutral term so I accepted Brony as also gender neutral and decided I was both a Brony and still a Collector at the same time. I still kinda consider myself a Brony but just a sane one. I'm a member of other fandoms that have their insanities and ship wars and the like but I don't mess with that stuff or let it bother me. I just like what I like.
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Wow... I like violent art at times but you don't just go up to a random person and say "Draw my OC stabbing a canon character from a fandom you're a part of" That's scary.
I agree. I prefer a broader term like "Pony Fan"
Haha.. that reminds me... XD I once got a request from a guy that asked me if I could draw a certain X-Men character completely nude and that he'd pay me XD I don't draw nudes and another thing... the character was a child :shocked:
I would have been furious with that person. Now, I have nothing against artistic nudity but asking for a CHILD CHARACTER to be drawn naked is clearly pedo-enabling and quite frankly, disgusting. We need less people in the world into that stuff. I would have reported that guy.
Er... I disagree with you there, but that's a completely other debate that probably wouldn't go anywhere anyway. I'm not into the stuff myself, but to each their own. As long as I don't have to see it, people can have their fantasies. Sometimes it's fantasies that keep us sane and keep potentially harmful urges from dangerously being bottled up.
Same goes for the bronies into the "clop" stuff. It's a bit hard to say that they're the ones who aren't real bronies or that they're morally reprehensible when they (usually) enjoy their art in peace and it's others who judge the entirety of their character based on it.
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I do not consider myself a Brony anymore, I just like My Little Pony. I disagree with a lot of the fandom's choices recently and am strictly collecting/watching show, I rp some but nothing too serious.
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as much as I disagree with that kind of thing please remember to keep this thread on topic. Thanks ;)
Post Merge: April 04, 2013, 12:18:52 PM
Wow... I like violent art at times but you don't just go up to a random person and say "Draw my OC stabbing a canon character from a fandom you're a part of" That's scary.
I agree. I prefer a broader term like "Pony Fan"
Haha.. that reminds me... XD I once got a request from a guy that asked me if I could draw a certain X-Men character completely nude and that he'd pay me XD I don't draw nudes and another thing... the character was a child :shocked:
I would have been furious with that person. Now, I have nothing against artistic nudity but asking for a CHILD CHARACTER to be drawn naked is clearly pedo-enabling and quite frankly, disgusting. We need less people in the world into that stuff. I would have reported that guy.
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Sorry to raise a necro thread, but I reject the brony label as well. I call myself a big brother pony, to coincide with the names of the G1 males
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I'm sure this comment will inspire alot of laughter from others and quite a bit of ignorance on my part, but prior to joining the arena, I was under the impression that Brony was a term for a male fan of MLP.
I wasn't aware that there was any stigmas attached.
I just thought it was innocent. Up until a few weeks ago I kept telling my husband he was a Brony lol.
There all kinds of people out there that are into all kinds of things from regular everyday stuff to incredibly creepy weird stuff. To each their own.
For myself personally (and I know my husband also agrees as it's been discussed) think it's weird and a little gross when people take sweet childhood characters and turn them into sex fiends, drawing all kinds of xxx art or very violent art.
But that's just us, some people like that, and that's fine. I think I've gotten off topic here lol, I ramble and I know that.
I just wanted to point out that I never thought of the term/label Brony as anything other than a male MLP fan. Plain and simple.
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I want to say this.....about bronies and every other label: When I was younger I wanted labels to have a sense of belonging, and there's nothing wrong with that. But I became a whole lot happier when I got older and realized the only label I needed was "Mimi."
There's no shame in using labels or not using labels....the important thing is to love yourself and let your hobbies have a positive influence in your life. :)
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I agree with you. I don't want to be called a brony or any other thing. I like just being a collector that enjoys the show! I don't like their stories or their "fan fiction" A lot of it is just scary and morbid. I am not huge fan of bronies and don't want to be a pegasister, Whatever that is… And I fell like bronies get more respect, and have disgusting fan-art. But I don't want to start a fight. They also just kinda poped out of nowhere.
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I had always thought "bronies" were just boys that liked MLP - I was happy when I learned of it, because I figured it just meant that society was evolving enough such that boys would finally not be stigmatized for playing with traditionally "girly" toys- and THAT would be awesome!
Until right this second, that's what I thought too. I am totally unfamiliar with the current MLP. I'm a G1 girl at heart since that's what I grew up with in the 80s. I didn't care much for the G2 ponies, although I had a few at the time. I totally fell in love again with G3 because they remind me of G1. I drifted away 5 or 6 years ago, so I'm totally out of the loop now. I still love MLP, but only the ponies I'm familiar with: G1s and G3s. I don't know anything about G3.5 and G4, nor am I interested in them. I've never seen the show, I don't know anything about the dolls I keep hearing about (although I did see a couple of pics, which look hideous to me), and I don't care about the G4 ponies I've seen in stores. Sure, some are kinda cute, but I have zero interest in buying any.
I hope I don't offend anyone. If you like the cartoons, dolls, and toys, it doesn't matter to me. My dislike of them shouldn't matter to you. :)
Edit: I fixed a sentence that didn't make sense.
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Ditto. Brony has some negative connotations in my mind; to me, anyone who enjoys ponies without getting weird and uncomfortable about it is termed a pony fan. :)
I mean seriously, why is the label even needed?
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Ditto. Brony has some negative connotations in my mind; to me, anyone who enjoys ponies without getting weird and uncomfortable about it is termed a pony fan. :)
I mean seriously, why is the label even needed?
Well, I think it started when the expected fans broke out into "men actually like this? Cool! Bro+Pony=Brony" type situation. I'm not sure.
When the fandom started, I put myself into that label. When the whole "pegasister" thing started, I didn't want to be called that. As the time passed, I started to dislike parts of the fandom. Some art got me...upset. I just disconnected myself from that part and stayed with the rest. I gave up my label of brony in favor of "MLP Fanatic" because I love all Gens!
That's my story hehe
[content edit ~ many thanks ~ hathorcat]
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Ditto. Brony has some negative connotations in my mind; to me, anyone who enjoys ponies without getting weird and uncomfortable about it is termed a pony fan. :)
I mean seriously, why is the label even needed?
Well, I think it started when the expected fans broke out into "men actually like this? Cool! Bro+Pony=Brony" type situation. I'm not sure.
It actually all started on a site that shall not be named (it's a bit racy, can't post the name here), when the series premiered and people started talking about it/posting caps etc. Users there coined the term by, as you surmised, combining 'bro' and 'pony' to refer to the influx on pony fans on their boards.
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No (where's Grumpy cat when you need him). I've been a fan of MLP from childhood (early 80s). And like others have all ready said, there is a section of the fandom. That makes Brony, not something I ever want to be associated with.
Seconding what Tirac said. If anyone approached me to do something like that. I'd be calling them out. That hay doesn't fly with me. Ever.
That being said, it's nice to know that the whole fandom isn't like that. It's something I do mention when I get the whole "uggh are you a brony?". In fact I've pointed folks in the direction of the Arena. As proof. Thanks Arena. :thumb:
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Sorry to raise a necro thread, but I reject the brony label as well. I call myself a big brother pony, to coincide with the names of the G1 males
i really love the big brother name :D it sounds so friendly, i think you started something there :P
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Eugh...people tried to pin that label on me when I started getting into the FiM fandom. >.< My fiance called himself that and, while he wasn't horrible as some... he was still...out there. :P As the fandom got worse, we backed away from it and dropped the labels.
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I've done several mlp panels at anime cons and frequently been called a Brony. Without thinking about it, I've corrected people saying I'm a collector. What's the difference? To my mind, calling myself a collector is akin to specifying that I've been in the fandom longer than fim. No judgement call, just my way of identifying myself in the fandom.
Elf
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I wonder how many mods *headdesk* when these threads appear/reappear :silly:
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We need a zombie smiley, for dead threads popping back up (like daises!). :P
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Me, personally - I don't really feel bothered by the darker themes that appear in peoples artwork, fiction or the official comics, being a huge fan of all things horror and all things creepy. But gore and violence on the other hand... I don't mind gore in horror films, but in stuff like "My Little Pony", not only is it out of place, but it also feels so sick, disturbing and just... wrong. This particularly goes for all the nasty artwork featuring the, so-called, fluffy ponies.
Similar thing goes for the sexually explicit art: it just feels wrong on so many levels... but I won't delve into that any deeper.
As for labels. In the beginning I used to think of myself as a pegasister/brony. But after some time, I just decided to drop this label all together, and go as a regular "My Little Pony fan/collector" instead. This is mostly because I like "My Little Pony" as a whole, and not G4/Friendship is Magic. That and the fact that G1 feels more close to my heart, because it was a generation I grew up with.
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I wonder how many mods *headdesk* when these threads appear/reappear :silly:
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We need a zombie smiley, for dead threads popping back up (like daises!). :P
:like:
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I've only known the term as "male pony fan" (let's me say "I was brony, when brony wasn't cool" :P ), so I didn't mind the term. Though I will admit it does carry a bit of stigma to it to where It's even starting to bug me. Of course like any other fanbase the extreme ones are always louder than the normals, and they're the ones non fans take note of.
For the record I do like some of the darker stuff, and I love crossovers (Ace Combat, Monty Python, Team Fortress 2, and Weird Al, to name a few). I've written one (and working on another) fanfic that crosses FiM with Ace Combat (pony flies the jet :whistle: ). And as being a member of the of the New Lunar Republic fanbase, I'll say most who consider themselves part of it don't want Celestia dead (Cele has her "Solar Empire" fans who are the same way). Most just prefer Luna over Celestia.
[content edit ~ many thanks ~ hathorcat]
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I think many here are being too harsh on the bronie community. I don't think that many people realize how hard it is for these young men to admit to liking the show. Here is a good video that touches on how the bronies have to fight against defined gender roles: http://youtu.be/Est3UNs-LIk
For that kind of fight they should be celebrated. If they want to have fun and make equestria a dark place filled with political upheaval that's their prerogative as an expression of (fan) art (yes fan fiction is a form of fan art).
I'm not saying that anyone else has to like or agree with that expression and no if you don't want to draw that then don't take the commission, however, you shouldn't dis-encourage people from expressing themselves.
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I am still seeing some females in this thread and others calling themselves a brony....
Seriously. You can't be a brony if you are a girl, that's stupid! Bro is short for brother, brothers can only be male. This is pre-school stuff.
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I am still seeing some females in this thread and others calling themselves a brony....
Seriously. You can't be a brony if you are a girl, that's stupid! Bro is short for brother, brothers can only be male. This is pre-school stuff.
... that was sarcasm, right? :P
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I am still seeing some females in this thread and others calling themselves a brony....
Seriously. You can't be a brony if you are a girl, that's stupid! Bro is short for brother, brothers can only be male. This is pre-school stuff.
... that was sarcasm, right? :P
Deadly serious.
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I think many here are being too harsh on the bronie community. I don't think that many people realize how hard it is for these young men to admit to liking the show. Here is a good video that touches on how the bronies have to fight against defined gender roles: http://youtu.be/Est3UNs-LIk
For that kind of fight they should be celebrated. If they want to have fun and make equestria a dark place filled with political upheaval that's their prerogative as an expression of (fan) art (yes fan fiction is a form of fan art).
I'm not saying that anyone else has to like or agree with that expression and no if you don't want to draw that then don't take the commission, however, you shouldn't dis-encourage people from expressing themselves.
That's kinda the thing that gets me though. Look at it this way: when a girl likes something "traditionally" for boys (let's take video games or science fiction as examples, though in reality the fanbases for both are about equally split between genders now), she gets grilled on trivia and ridiculed and told she's just there for attention, or a poser, or a dozen other hostile, uncomplimentary things. Conversely, when a boy likes something "traditionally" for girls (say ponies or knitting), he's welcomed as something special and uncommon and given preferential treatment in fandom.
Now, that's not to say we shouldn't be welcoming to all fans--we should! But male pony fans are just that, and no better or worse than anyone else.
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Brony can be used as a general term for all pony collectors, it can also be used for strictly male collectors as well. If a girl wants to be called a brony or doesn't mind the term then why have such an issue with it? If you don't like being called that, that's fine but don't be hating the females of the Brony community of folks on this forum just because they don't mind being called one or identifying with the name.
I am still seeing some females in this thread and others calling themselves a brony....
Seriously. You can't be a brony if you are a girl, that's stupid! Bro is short for brother, brothers can only be male. This is pre-school stuff.
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Brony can be used as a general term for all pony collectors, it can also be used for strictly male collectors as well. If a girl wants to be called a brony or doesn't mind the term then why have such an issue with it? If you don't like being called that, that's fine but don't be hating the females of the Brony community of folks on this forum just because they don't mind being called one or identifying with the name.
I am still seeing some females in this thread and others calling themselves a brony....
Seriously. You can't be a brony if you are a girl, that's stupid! Bro is short for brother, brothers can only be male. This is pre-school stuff.
I know! My goodness, why take it so seriously? It's a made up word, anyway! I don't want to have two separate terms for the same kind of fan, depending on your gender! THAT'S silly, if you ask me. I wouldn't mind if the more common term was more gender neutral, but I'm perfectly happy being called a brony because that's the term that most are familiar with. I don't think that's stupid at all. I think it's perfectly reasonable.
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I wonder how many mods *headdesk* when these threads appear/reappear :silly:
if you listen closely, you can hear their curses on the wind.
As I said that, a bird concussed itself on the window. I hope that wasn't an omen.
edit: I checked outside. For those worried, the bird is fine and flew off.
Post Merge: July 21, 2013, 09:47:00 AM
I am still seeing some females in this thread and others calling themselves a brony....
Seriously. You can't be a brony if you are a girl, that's stupid! Bro is short for brother, brothers can only be male. This is pre-school stuff.
I believe in a world where a woman can be a bro if she dang well wants to be.
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Brony can be used as a general term for all pony collectors, it can also be used for strictly male collectors as well. If a girl wants to be called a brony or doesn't mind the term then why have such an issue with it? If you don't like being called that, that's fine but don't be hating the females of the Brony community of folks on this forum just because they don't mind being called one or identifying with the name.
I am still seeing some females in this thread and others calling themselves a brony....
Seriously. You can't be a brony if you are a girl, that's stupid! Bro is short for brother, brothers can only be male. This is pre-school stuff.
I don't personally know any females who want to associate themselves with many of the themes that 'bronies' stand for, but please don't think that I'm offended by whatever the hell you want to call yourself, I'm sure I've heard people call themselves worse :) But just look at the term literally... it is referring to the males who are following something that is originally aimed at girls.... Bro-ponies!
But I don't want this thread to derail over one misunderstanding of terminology so if you do want to discuss it then please feel free to send me a pm :)
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That's kinda the thing that gets me though. Look at it this way: when a girl likes something "traditionally" for boys (let's take video games or science fiction as examples, though in reality the fanbases for both are about equally split between genders now), she gets grilled on trivia and ridiculed and told she's just there for attention, or a poser, or a dozen other hostile, uncomplimentary things.
SHIRO! Prove your pony love! Name three princess ponies or be shunned.
(You know, I never got that attitude. What's the point of faking liking something? The only reward is more of the thing. I can only conclude people like stuff)
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I wonder how many mods *headdesk* when these threads appear/reappear :silly:
I believe in a world where a woman can be a bro if she dang well wants to be.
As I'm sure she can also call herself 'dad', 'uncle' or anything else in the world... it doesn't mean she's using the term correctly I'm afraid.
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I wonder how many mods *headdesk* when these threads appear/reappear :silly:
I believe in a world where a woman can be a bro if she dang well wants to be.
As I'm sure she can also call herself 'dad', 'uncle' or anything else in the world... it doesn't mean she's using the term correctly I'm afraid.
If you say so! It's a little too nitpicky for me, I'm afraid
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I don't care for the label, but luckily enough I have gender on my side. I know it's sexist, but there's the usual assumption of boy who like ponies = weirdo g4 brony. Girl who like ponies = normal girl who likes ponies.
I hate the word pegasister though, it has a bad mouth feel when I say it.
I don't label others though, or call them out on what they've chosen to self identify. If I did I'd probably use less flattering terms in a playful mocking way that could probably be considered hate speech depending on who is looking at it. So I don't do it.
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That's kinda the thing that gets me though. Look at it this way: when a girl likes something "traditionally" for boys (let's take video games or science fiction as examples, though in reality the fanbases for both are about equally split between genders now), she gets grilled on trivia and ridiculed and told she's just there for attention, or a poser, or a dozen other hostile, uncomplimentary things.
SHIRO! Prove your pony love! Name three princess ponies or be shunned.
(You know, I never got that attitude. What's the point of faking liking something? The only reward is more of the thing. I can only conclude people like stuff)
Hehehe, I actually do want to start collecting G1 princess ponies. Sparkly stuff? MINE. I just know when I start, I'll never stop.
On topic, though, seriously. If "guys" and "dude" and all that are gender-neutral at this point, what's the problem with calling yourself a bro?
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That's kinda the thing that gets me though. Look at it this way: when a girl likes something "traditionally" for boys (let's take video games or science fiction as examples, though in reality the fanbases for both are about equally split between genders now), she gets grilled on trivia and ridiculed and told she's just there for attention, or a poser, or a dozen other hostile, uncomplimentary things.
SHIRO! Prove your pony love! Name three princess ponies or be shunned.
(You know, I never got that attitude. What's the point of faking liking something? The only reward is more of the thing. I can only conclude people like stuff)
Hehehe, I actually do want to start collecting G1 princess ponies. Sparkly stuff? MINE. I just know when I start, I'll never stop.
it's addictive. It's very very addictive.
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I don' want to be called a brony ether. We've had the term 'pony collector/fan' for many years and that's good enough for me. While being called a brony would most likely give me more of a sense of belonging with newer fans, there is a sub-group of the newer fandom I simply don't have much in common with, as a fan of mostly G1. I like G4, but just the show and the toys themselves, not the fandom made ideas about them for the most part. It seems sometimes as if enjoying all the fandom ideas about characters and taking them as fact is an unspoken part\give in of being a brony, at least, from what I have seen. I could be wrong :)
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I wonder how many mods *headdesk* when these threads appear/reappear :silly:
if you listen closely, you can hear their curses on the wind.
As I said that, a bird concussed itself on the window. I hope that wasn't an omen.
Listen closely? It's like a roar rofl!! ;)
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We are NEVER not here ;)
This thread is months old and the phrase beating a dead horse comes to mind. This can go round in circles for ever and ever.
Locked.