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Quote from: Leave a Whisper on July 24, 2020, 08:51:17 AMI won't forgive Hasbro anytime soon for that awful Retrospective. That was definitely brony pandering in the worst ways, for being disgusting, spiteful and innapropriate.Is that the media THING on which all that garbage about G1 being all about parties and stuff was said?Or is that some other horror?I just hate the way prior generations get reframed to make G4 look like the final polished evolution.G4 is fine but it's it's own generation. It's not an evolved final form. This isn't pokemon.
I won't forgive Hasbro anytime soon for that awful Retrospective. That was definitely brony pandering in the worst ways, for being disgusting, spiteful and innapropriate.
Besides, G4 is all parties and fashion and all the things that apparently G1 was so bad with. So apparently they're fine if they're in G4.The irony being that all of that 'girly' nonsense is one reason I dislike FIM xD.
Yeah, thanks for the clarity. I do remember the retrospective now too. Made worse by the fact Hasbro is trying now to rekindle retro with all these collabs, having apparently realised retro ponies (BF) sell and them saying they wanted nothing to do with them was a bit of a fail. That Retrospective thing was definitely a brony pandering, agreed.I'd dispute that Faust's view was based on the backcards either, honestly....I think it was just some kind of mangled memory in her mind about how MLP was in G1. I didn't watch the brony THING because just the clips I did see offended me, but watching her interview on TTMU told me everything I wanted to know about her concept of G1 and that it didn't really bear resemblance to G1.
Whenever I mention I'm a fan of My Little Pony I feel like I have to add a disclaimer that I'm only into g1/the 80s and 90s ponies, just so I won't be associated with br*nies
Well, the backcards and the commercials are the only pieces of G1 material that I think could even remotely begin to give the impression it was nothing but sappy parties and whatnot, considering the "End of the world? Must be Tuesday" nature of the cartoon and the stuff that happened in the comics.
Quote from: ridi on July 24, 2020, 04:00:21 AMWhenever I mention I'm a fan of My Little Pony I feel like I have to add a disclaimer that I'm only into g1/the 80s and 90s ponies, just so I won't be associated with br*nies I feel this especially true for male fans given how we're so likely to get regarded as brownies simply for being male. I grew up with G1, and have been a fan since the mid 80s. In fact I used to watch the original cartoon series in the morning before going to preschool.
I hate bringing gender into discussion, but it's true that bronies especially ruined it for oldschool male pony fans. When you're an adult woman into MLP people will usually just assume that you liked it as a kid and it's childhood nostalgia, but when you're an adult male into MLP then people these days will just automatically associate you with the brony fandom. That's probably one of the main reasons behind my personal grudge against them.
I feel this especially true for male fans given how we're so likely to get regarded as brownies simply for being male. I grew up with G1, and have been a fan since the mid 80s. In fact I used to watch the original cartoon series in the morning before going to preschool.
I'm interested that you mention the cartoons as obscure in the 1980s, LM. They certainly were here, but over there too? Or is it a state by state thing do you think in terms of transmission?
The fact she didn't remember anything from G1 but had an opinion on what she thought it was like, which then became the core of her TV show despite the fact she apparently didn't like that...is just wrongness for me on so many levels.
Quote from: Taffeta on July 24, 2020, 05:26:55 PMI'm interested that you mention the cartoons as obscure in the 1980s, LM. They certainly were here, but over there too? Or is it a state by state thing do you think in terms of transmission?Obscure across the board in the US, IMO. It's not like Transformers, where the cartoon was the main driver of the hype. I think most former 80s kids only know there was a MLP cartoon because EVERYTHING had a cartoon in the 80s, ha ha.QuoteThe fact she didn't remember anything from G1 but had an opinion on what she thought it was like, which then became the core of her TV show despite the fact she apparently didn't like that...is just wrongness for me on so many levels.But she did know what G1 was like. She knew what the toys were like. Which was the core of the MLP experience for little girls in the US. This may seem odd to you since the UK had such a widespread, regular output of canon (the comics). But most American little girls did not know or care about any of the canon, they just loved brushable horse toys. (Arguably the backcards were the most widespread type of canon but let's be real, most of them got thrown away and their stories forgotten.)