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Quote from: ladybastilla on March 09, 2015, 11:31:03 PMNone of these would necessarily be a problem on their own, but there is an almost bludgeoning sense that male ponies are totally and utterly worthless / inadequate....I've noticed that about other male characters in the show as well. Spike I give a pass since he's still a "baby", but I get where you're coming from with the others. And this isn't something that I see discussed often/at all, so I'm glad to see someone bring it up.
None of these would necessarily be a problem on their own, but there is an almost bludgeoning sense that male ponies are totally and utterly worthless / inadequate.
Quote from: MoonbeamStar on March 10, 2015, 11:20:03 AMQuote from: ladybastilla on March 09, 2015, 11:31:03 PMNone of these would necessarily be a problem on their own, but there is an almost bludgeoning sense that male ponies are totally and utterly worthless / inadequate....I've noticed that about other male characters in the show as well. Spike I give a pass since he's still a "baby", but I get where you're coming from with the others. And this isn't something that I see discussed often/at all, so I'm glad to see someone bring it up.My husband usually watches FiM with me and he sometimes comments on how there are no males of note. He jokes that the females just keep a few males around for breeding and hauling things like in a dystopian sci-fi...
I understand that FiM was designed for little girls. But at the same time, is teaching them that men are stupid / lesser any better than cartoons that teach boys that women are objects or damsels in distress?
Quote from: ladybastilla on March 09, 2015, 11:31:03 PMI understand that FiM was designed for little girls. But at the same time, is teaching them that men are stupid / lesser any better than cartoons that teach boys that women are objects or damsels in distress?Yes! It is better, not on it's own, but in the context of society, absolutely. The thing is, the vast majority of shows do this but opposite, presenting female characters in this light. So by doing this, it is more 'evening the score' in the subconscious of kids than actually making them consider males inferior (unless MLP was the ONLY show they watched.) The reason it stands out so much is because we are so used to the other way around. If you really think back on a lot of kid's shows, it's easier to notice that most do this in reverse, but it's so ingrained we usually don't pick it up. So this is actually a refreshing change and really healthy for kids to see! (e.g. "this show is all boys and one girl that needs saving, but MLP is the opposite so I can see them both either way!" )
Quote from: MagicStar on March 10, 2015, 04:45:36 PMQuote from: ladybastilla on March 09, 2015, 11:31:03 PMI understand that FiM was designed for little girls. But at the same time, is teaching them that men are stupid / lesser any better than cartoons that teach boys that women are objects or damsels in distress?Yes! It is better, not on it's own, but in the context of society, absolutely. The thing is, the vast majority of shows do this but opposite, presenting female characters in this light. So by doing this, it is more 'evening the score' in the subconscious of kids than actually making them consider males inferior (unless MLP was the ONLY show they watched.) The reason it stands out so much is because we are so used to the other way around. If you really think back on a lot of kid's shows, it's easier to notice that most do this in reverse, but it's so ingrained we usually don't pick it up. So this is actually a refreshing change and really healthy for kids to see! (e.g. "this show is all boys and one girl that needs saving, but MLP is the opposite so I can see them both either way!" )Yeah, I totally agree with you! And really, there's quite a few positive male characters too - what about Cheese Sandwich, although he's a one-off, or Shining Armor, Mr. Cake? I don't consider Big Mac 'socially awkward' either, I think he's just quiet, which isn't a 'negative' trait so much. I mean, if you look at it, EVERY character has a lot of moments where they're goofy or useless - some would argue that Rainbow Dash and Pinkie Pie, having become mere stereotypes of their S1 selves, would be the most negative portrayals of women on the show! So IDK if I think FiM is anti-male, it just has a lot of goofy characters in general, male and female. They just happen to have female heads-of-state as the mature "adult" stand-ins, which is why it feels so jarring - it's atypical for a children's show, unfortunately.
I think my most unpopular opinion is that I LIKE UK PONY NAMES BEST! And I will always use them, because they're part of my childhood, and to me preserving that is important. As a kid I didn't have Sugarberry, I had Strawberry Fair. I didn't have Princess Royal Blue, I had Princess Sapphire. It's a nostalgia thing. If I renamed them all US names, they wouldn't be my ponies any more. This obsession spreads to the point I sold my MOC Sugarberry because the name on the card isn't the right one I grew up with, and I don't regret it one bit.I'm actually really sad it's such an unpopular opinion, actually, because online ID is so US-name-centric. With so many Uk people online now, you'd expect it to be more balanced, but I guess not...
I am not a fan of blind bags. I was in the beginning, but now they are too hard to keep up with.