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Offline Naamah

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Micron Pigma archival pens and pony vinyl: good match?
« on: July 07, 2012, 09:13:43 AM »
I have a design that calls for fine detail in black and red, and was wondering if it would be safe to use my beloved Micron Pigma archival drawing pens.  I'm concerned about long-term bleeding into the vinyl, like those awful and sad blue/purple stains that haunt my bait ponies from years past.

I'd be using them right over the vinyl, without a FBR.

So.  Have you used them?  And when?  (Like, "It's been five years and no bleeding!")  What do you think the threshold would be for knowing it was safe?  I don't wanna devote the time to a really complex pony and have it go south on the owner years down the line.  I'd feel so bad.

I know that colored inks can behave differently, so does anyone have experience with those, too?

And if anyone wants to post pics, if they've used these pens, I'd probably splode.  That would be awesome, too.  Y'all must love to show off your work just as much as me, and I will take ANY EXCUSE! LOL :D

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Re: Micron Pigma archival pens and pony vinyl: good match?
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2012, 09:47:46 AM »
I've worked with pigma pens in the past, but I cannot recall, is it India Ink?  I experimented with Fiber Castels fine point india ink pens and have mixed feelings.  With those pens, the ink never really sets, I would work my design, let it rest for a day, then carefully apply (gentle dabbing) modge podge as a sealer over it.  I did a few ponies in this way and (to my knowledge) they haven't bled.  It's been about a year (if anyone owns one and has a horror story, please share!)  Pony vinyl is so absorbant that its really hit or miss.  You could do a test, the bottom of a hoof or something, and check it after a month or so.  Wipe the mark off and see if any bleeding into the plastic has started? 

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Re: Micron Pigma archival pens and pony vinyl: good match?
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2012, 12:24:22 PM »
*blushes*  I have a fan!  *blushes more*  I am really flattered by that considering the absolutely incredible stuff that gets posted here!

If I could just get some freakin' spare money that doesn't go to vet bills and keeping the AC on in this confounded Oklahoma heat (and you were not taking a break to get caught up) ohhhhh, I'd be hitting you up for some airbrushed baits because SO MANY IDEAS.  And most of them are gradients.  *flattens ears*

I have a nasty bait I drew on with a Micron a couple months ago.  I think I'll go check on it presently!

They are waterproof, though I don't recall if they said it was India ink but it is waterfast (and I have tested that extensively on paper by painting over it with everything in the world).  Stuff acts differently on vinyl, though.
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Re: Micron Pigma archival pens and pony vinyl: good match?
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2012, 03:00:53 PM »
I have only tried them on paint...and my customs aren't old enough to really give any real report.  But hry here are the ones I have tried them on.  Nothing intricate. lol  Mostly outlines.  Hm actually that fakie one IS right on the vinyl.  But I made her a month ago so no clue if it will blur/leak.

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Re: Micron Pigma archival pens and pony vinyl: good match?
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2012, 04:47:11 PM »
I've used them; they didn't work for me at all. They did work over paint, but that tended to try them out super fast.

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Re: Micron Pigma archival pens and pony vinyl: good match?
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2012, 08:39:34 PM »
Be interesting to see what you do, you are not going to know till you try it sadly.
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