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Quote from: xeevee on June 02, 2012, 03:13:29 AMQuote from: mercynova on June 02, 2012, 02:58:28 AMQuote from: NoDivision on June 01, 2012, 10:35:18 PMQuote from: LadyMoondancer on June 01, 2012, 09:39:39 PMBut beyond that . . . having her as the MLP Fair pony diminishes the connection between MLP collectors and Hasbro, which we have worked hard to build up. Before, Hasbro took the time to create something special and unique for the Fair. Perfectly put. That's the thought I've been trying to express but you worded it perfectly. Though people do seem to be forgetting that Hasbro HAVE done this to us before. Remember the year (2007?) when the fair was given a bunch of leftover Love Wishes as their 'exclusive pony' and the staff had to do something amazing to make them unique. Granted it's not exactly the same but Hasbro have treated collectors unfairly a few times in the past. That was pre-exclusive days though. At that point it was nice to get anything, I think. Pony fair Australia can't even get Hasbro to acknowledge them.I believe that the year before that was when the fair got Bay Breeze though.But yeah, it's very sad that Hasbro completely ignore large groups as well
Quote from: mercynova on June 02, 2012, 02:58:28 AMQuote from: NoDivision on June 01, 2012, 10:35:18 PMQuote from: LadyMoondancer on June 01, 2012, 09:39:39 PMBut beyond that . . . having her as the MLP Fair pony diminishes the connection between MLP collectors and Hasbro, which we have worked hard to build up. Before, Hasbro took the time to create something special and unique for the Fair. Perfectly put. That's the thought I've been trying to express but you worded it perfectly. Though people do seem to be forgetting that Hasbro HAVE done this to us before. Remember the year (2007?) when the fair was given a bunch of leftover Love Wishes as their 'exclusive pony' and the staff had to do something amazing to make them unique. Granted it's not exactly the same but Hasbro have treated collectors unfairly a few times in the past. That was pre-exclusive days though. At that point it was nice to get anything, I think. Pony fair Australia can't even get Hasbro to acknowledge them.
Quote from: NoDivision on June 01, 2012, 10:35:18 PMQuote from: LadyMoondancer on June 01, 2012, 09:39:39 PMBut beyond that . . . having her as the MLP Fair pony diminishes the connection between MLP collectors and Hasbro, which we have worked hard to build up. Before, Hasbro took the time to create something special and unique for the Fair. Perfectly put. That's the thought I've been trying to express but you worded it perfectly. Though people do seem to be forgetting that Hasbro HAVE done this to us before. Remember the year (2007?) when the fair was given a bunch of leftover Love Wishes as their 'exclusive pony' and the staff had to do something amazing to make them unique. Granted it's not exactly the same but Hasbro have treated collectors unfairly a few times in the past.
Quote from: LadyMoondancer on June 01, 2012, 09:39:39 PMBut beyond that . . . having her as the MLP Fair pony diminishes the connection between MLP collectors and Hasbro, which we have worked hard to build up. Before, Hasbro took the time to create something special and unique for the Fair. Perfectly put. That's the thought I've been trying to express but you worded it perfectly.
But beyond that . . . having her as the MLP Fair pony diminishes the connection between MLP collectors and Hasbro, which we have worked hard to build up. Before, Hasbro took the time to create something special and unique for the Fair.
Bay Breeze wasn't going to be exclusive though, she was a 'buy it before anyone else' that they never released, some what like the Minty on Taobao.
Oh I would love that to see some G4's with some fun gradients and cascading patterns like the G3's had... but at the same time the simplicity of the G4 ponies reminds me of G1 a bit so I'm happy either way!
They should do a retro to modern pack restyling their old ponies to g4, that would be awesome. I'd love to see Ivy or princess star/silver swirl and various ponies modernized.
I am positive that Hasbro's reps will leave the MLPFair with the clear and vivid feedback that the majority of attendees wanted either a DIFFERENT character for the Collector's Art Pony this year, or a SEPARATE pony from SDCC.
Mare-Do-Well would've been a great idea!!
Quote from: Rhini on June 01, 2012, 06:08:55 PMQuote from: Elisto on June 01, 2012, 03:48:04 PM Personally, I doubt Hasbro has any idea "brony" doesn't encompass all MLP fans. How would they know that?See I really agree, and I don't think they had any idea the collectors wouldn't be happy about this. I disagree. They designed a MLP Fair logo with only G1 ponies on it, which they certainly would know not to do with a brony convention. I don't really mind the G3 to G4 mold switch--I would rather have G3 molds, but I can understand them wanting to promote their latest line. And I have nothing against Ditzy Doo. But she makes for a really . . . boring . . . collector pony. Because that's what the MLP Fair is geared towards--toy collectors. Maybe they collect G1, maybe G2, maybe G3 or G4, but it's mostly about the toys, with glorious dealer tables set up all over the place, plus customs to see or buy. And I KNOW Hasbro knows this because they have gone all out in the past, giving us awesome and crazy exclusive ponies! (And also because they, you know, have attended the Fair many times before. )visitors can't see pics , please register or loginvisitors can't see pics , please register or loginCompare these ponies to Ditzy's basic, plain design. She would be fine as a retail pony. She is fine as the SDCC pony, because a lot of bronies a) are more into the TV show than toys and b) will be attending SDCC, so that all works out. But she is boring choice for a Fair pony IMO.And what makes it worse is that she isn't even an exclusive for the Fair--Hasbro just shrugged and said, "Yeah, nothing special for you!" I'm sorry, but I think that is really sad. Before this year, they always made separate SDCC and Fair ponies, even though the demand for SDCC ponies was obviously less than it will be this year. So now they are raking in more money than ever and outputting half as much product. Well, yes, calling her boring is a matter of opinion. So is calling her interesting." Pony" is very much a brony-based phenomenon. I do not think the brony fanbase is at all incorrect when they feel that they were the ones who had such a huge effect that they rocketed her to fame and led Studio B to give her uneven eyes in episodes (other than the first episode, where her eyes were just a little in-joke by an animator.)Not that more "traditional" fans, for lack of a better term, can't enjoy her; I like her as a "Where's Waldo" type thing in the episodes. But she is very much associated with bronies.I don't dislike the pony on principal. But I am testy that Hasbro gave the convention that mainly is geared towards their older fans (in terms of "years in the fandom", not "age") . . . something that was created by and is the unofficial "symbol" of newer fans.And a toy that is not even unique to the MLP Fair? As I said before, if they tried this with Botcon and SDCC, heads would roll.As far as the design goes, she is just too plain for a MLP Fair pony IMO, as I said. But beyond that . . . having her as the MLP Fair pony diminishes the connection between MLP collectors and Hasbro, which we have worked hard to build up. Before, Hasbro took the time to create something special and unique for the Fair. Some of their designs I've liked, some I didn't like, but you could always see the EFFORT they put into it, and I appreciated that. With Ditzy . . . Hasbro didn't not even create her design. Studio B did, as a random background pony. So now we not only have an "exclusive" pony that is not really exclusive, but it's also one that Hasbro literally put no thought into designing, as it was designed by a different company.
Quote from: Elisto on June 01, 2012, 03:48:04 PM Personally, I doubt Hasbro has any idea "brony" doesn't encompass all MLP fans. How would they know that?See I really agree, and I don't think they had any idea the collectors wouldn't be happy about this.
Personally, I doubt Hasbro has any idea "brony" doesn't encompass all MLP fans. How would they know that?
Awww... and I was so hoping for Mare-Do-Well for the SDCC pony! Not to mention a new art pony for the fair! Though I guess it would have been hard to release Bubbles in any other way.
Quote from: Catlein on June 02, 2012, 08:54:17 AMAwww... and I was so hoping for Mare-Do-Well for the SDCC pony! Not to mention a new art pony for the fair! Though I guess it would have been hard to release Bubbles in any other way.It should have been Pony as Mare-Do-Well. You take the toy home, rip off the costume to see who it is, and... DUN-NAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!