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Customs / How about a rearing custom baby?
« on: August 30, 2015, 10:25:28 AM »
I have searched for and collected rearing fakie babies for a few years (they are from the 80's and the body resembles a G1 baby very much), because I think they would make a very cute custom made G1 baby pony, with just a head swap! (I wonder why hasbro never made any rearing babies)?

What do you think? I want to make a rearing baby Shady (since she wasn't made as a regular baby) The body fits very well with a unicorn head though. I will have to try with different earth baby pony heads and see who will fit best.

Has anyone else made a custom like this, and can show us a pic of it finished?

The body needs to be painted, but you get an idea of what she could look like:
(It is very well balanced and don't tip over).
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Oh, and I have listed 3 bodies for sale, that I won't be needing, if anyone get's tempted to try themselves.
I'm keeping a few ones for myself, for when I find the time... :)



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Pony Corral / Re: How rare is Mimic really?
« on: August 30, 2015, 08:30:39 AM »

I don't think the prices overall will go down on ponies like Mimic, who have had that aura for a long time. If anything, I suspect the pricing will become worse. Pony collectors have become inextricably obsessed with the monetary value of their ponies, as opposed to the genuine joy of collecting them. I don't think it's a problem to pay $500 for Mimic if she's something that has a special meaning for you as a collector...just as I think it's fine if someone won't pay more than $30 for her because she's an "ugly green". It bothers me a bit that there's a lot of emphasis on "did I get a good deal? Is she worth the amount I paid" rather than, "look at this awesome pony, I love her!". People should pay the prices they think are right, that's all. If people get goaded into paying more than something is worth TO THEM then they're just adding to the problem. MLP ought to be a toy collected because of interest and love, not because it's nice to show off something expensive and rare. Sometimes I think that line has been blurred.


Where's the 'like' button?  Feel like this was very well said.

That is happening in a lot of other toy lines from the 70/80's as well. Prices go up because you want something to show off as a collector, and to belong in the group of cool people who own things that others admirer. (Like an expensive brand purse)
And I think that prices for MLP will only get higher. Not for the bait ones, but for the ones in good condition. And prices for MOC's will be skyrocketing in the future as they just gets rarer, and fewer unfortunately. 

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Pony Corral / Re: Mystery Marks on FT Baby North Star
« on: August 29, 2015, 01:30:42 PM »
You can try to wrap her in aluminum foil and leave a hole over the marks. Then put her in the sun for a month. I think they might fade, although if they are age spots they will come back. But if it is just stains they will not :)

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Pony Corral / Re: POTD 8/28/2015 Party Time
« on: August 29, 2015, 12:12:02 PM »
I have her. She looks good with her play set companions! :) Not my favorite, but I like her.

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Pony Corral / Re: Renewing love for ponies?
« on: August 29, 2015, 12:03:19 PM »
If you want to put her ponies in storage you can always trade them from her for something else that she want's right now instead of selling them and give her the money. :)
Don't sell them! Even if she don't want them now she will regret it when she is older and nostalgic about her toys and childhood memories. It's a really bad thing happening to a child wen their parents throw away or sell their old toys when growing up, or that they themselves make a hasty decision and sell them on flea markets. That is something we are quite aware of here in the community *bunches of grownup children*;) . (But on another note, she might just start to collect them again when she is 20 years old, like I did, because she miss them or want the ones she never had).. :P

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Slightly annoyed that we seem to be the only country in Europe not deemed worthy of a fable pony equivalent ><

*pat on head*
 :shrug:


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Also with both versions of Buttons, there were seven, not six. Did you have both versions too?

Nope, she is a UK batch. I think as it has been mentioned before that she probably slipped over from the SS line in the beginning. And that they just a bit later changed her design. It's not so expensive to alter the design on paint works in the factory, and they probably just had their reasons (like with PaC baby Heart Throb).   

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All that Danish information is super interesting, and especially because the card style for the ponies where Danish text is involved is more based on the style of card used in North American releases, not those produced here. Whereas Sweden seems to have gone much more down the "UK" style line (sorry >.>) in terms of packaging, Denmark has gone a completely different direction. I have been a bit uneasy about the term Scandinavian pony for a while, but without knowing for sure...

Those cards do remind me a bit of the German Bow Tie, whose card had no name on it but "Mein Kleines Pony" instead...


I think this can have something to do with the card of the Benelux countries. They got A LOT of "US type" card and ponies. Not as a foreign import, but more as a official range of ponies adjusted to their own languages.
Denmark is like the gate in to Scandinavia, and has a lot more continental influences because of that. So I think that they maybe had the same kind of distributor as Benelux, maybe they collaborated.
And it will be very interesting to find out where the ponies got packed. It can't really be in the US because of the use of italian ponies.

I will have to dig out a little more pictures of German moc's as well to compare with.
It's fun with our german Bow-Tie moc in that way that it is the only version where they kept the "My Little Pony" rainbow logo and added the german text as a translation below.
But they still used a Hasbro UK card, and not the US type card like in Denmark. We need to find out where the connection is..


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here is a pic I borrowed from google for comparison:

Benelux sea shell
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and the danish:

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Benelux card first version "US style" cards
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Greek card (used the same year in Europe, and it is a "US style" card)
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Danish card (this is the second "US style" card and not the first that came with italian ponies.
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"to all children who believes in adventures, a beautiful little fantasy pony with hair to brush (groom) and style" -translated from the front of the card.


I really want to know what kind of sticker this tootsie came with!!  >_<

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I was looking at your pictures and I realised there's a difference between the card of your ponies and the card I have for Wind Whistler. It's the top left hand pink oval with the text in it. Yours says six to collect. My card for Wind Whistler says As seen in the My Little Pony film. It's a subtle difference, but a difference all the same.

I did think that this might be the UK/Scandinavia variation because I was looking at the picture BabyDoll loaned me and it looks like her Wind Whistler has a sticker with the same card you have, but it isn't mentioned in the text. Perhaps not though. Perhaps it's not that simple...but it is a difference all the same.

OMG!! This is really exciting news!!

Then we can actually separate them into two slightly different releases rater than just a batch variant (with the eyeliner) that continued to be sold over here!! And it isn't a sticker with the text "six to collect", it is printed on the card. So Hasbro bothered to change the card when they distributed  them over here.

I wonder why they changed it though? "The movie" was up on the cinemas in 1987 here around the same time that the set got released, so I don't understand the reason to change it. I have 2 swedish movie posters in my collection. I will have to check the dates for when the movie had its premiere here.

"As seen in the My Little Pony film" this sounds very British to me. But you are sure that yours came from abroad? (Although not Sweden because of the black eyeliner) If it was in the hands of a collector it might have crossed the border before?

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On to another thing...

I'm working on mapping the danish release of ponies. As we often say "Scandinavia" on swedish sold ponies I feel that it is important to make collectors understand that Denmark had a different carded (and a bit crazy  ;) ) range of ponies.
I was contacted by a danish toy collector wondering about some danish moc's that he had acquired. He wanted to know what I knew about them.
(I got really excited to see these sneak peek pictures!)




The first 6 earthlings, (italian made ponies). And on a "US type" card with danish text. I have seen similar before in other countries in Europe. It's quite similar to the BENELUX version of this set.
In Sweden we missed out on this set entirely.
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I have seen evidence that some of the first Unicorn and Pegasus ponies also was sold like this (italian made ponies) but probably on the "US type" Uni/Peg card. And they where probably available at the same time. I'm guessing around 1985.

The white italian Moondancer is rumored to have been sold in Germany, BUT she wasn't an official part of their range of ponies. They only got the Fable Ponies, but without any Moondancer. I think that the white one that often surface over there actually has traveled across the border from Denmark. (It's only a  short trip away with the ferry, and they sell toys on the boat too).


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 Around 1986 the craziness starts! ;)


HK made Sparkler, but on a danish texted earth pony card. I guess this is their version of the Fable Pony set, as they needed those characters too.  :shocked: Not sure why they decided on the earth pony card and not the Fable Pony card. And I still need to figure out if Powder and yellow Moondancer was a part of this set, or if they just had the 6 characters that Germany got (no real need to distribute Moondancer twice if the italian version where available).
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It looks like they got the UK version of earth ponies with green Tootsie. No danish text, so I think this is just simply an import. Doesn't need to be official either. BUT at the same time they had the white Tootsie (also sold in Sweden) but on a uni/peg card with danish text.  :shocked: This could be a version of our swedish set with Hopscotch, Snowflake and white Tootsie. It makes some sense at least.
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And the baby ponies (that we also got in Sweden on the same card but with english text) had a danish texted card.
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I'm really hoping that he will sell them to me sometime so that I can examine them more, and document them properly. For now he will hold on to them though. :) But I'm happy that we could learn a bit more about the danish release of ponies.
And maybe find a new way to describe ponies as the "Scandinavian" term isn't really correct if Denmark isn't included... I'm not sure they had the Pony Friends.



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They are benelux cards. The Netherlands, Belgium and Luxembourg  got a lot of things packed in the "US style" cards, that the rest of Europe didn't get. :) They are therefore a official part of your MLP range, and not a unofficial import from the US.

I have a MOC baby Blossom with that text too, and it is missing on my swedish sold MOC's on the same card.
 

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Pony Corral / Re: Which ponies came with Mommy Charms
« on: August 29, 2015, 04:16:45 AM »
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Pony land thank you so much for my charms they are perfect!!! Pretty Please really brought back a lot of memories for me! Why didn't you have them in Sweden? Where they only available in certain countries?


I'm happy that you loved them so much! :D
I think they only was available in US and UK. I haven't seen them available in other countries.

In Denmark you could send after the Charmkins Pixie pony when buying a (alternate) Birth Flower pony in stores (as a kind of mommy charm although not included in the MOC). This was probably a way to get rid of left over stock of her. She tends to show up here in Sweden to because of that, and I need her in my collection. ;)

Do you know that the Powder Puff charm available in the US pony club also was supposed to be a Charmins character? But she got used as a MLP club gift instead.
I have a insert paper with my MIP charm that describes her as a Charmkin pony. 

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Pony Corral / Re: Which ponies came with Mommy Charms
« on: August 28, 2015, 03:53:21 PM »
Yes what I have seen they where randomly selected, and only a smaller batch had the charms of each set that year. And if they had a charm it is a sticker on the card (but I have seen a moc that they forgot to put a sticker on too). So you needed to really search for them... It must have been a fun hunt for them for kids! To bad we missed out on them here in Sweden. :P

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Pony Corral / Re: Show me your deflocked So Softs!
« on: August 28, 2015, 05:51:17 AM »
I used to dislike So Soft's when I started collecting. But now I love them to bits! :) I just needed to find them with perfect flocking.
I wanted a defrocked Lofty as  mommy to my brazilian baby Lofty, but when I removed the flocking I realized that she is just to bright yellow to match the baby. I have always loved Lofty because she has that nice soft yellow color.

So my baby has a So Soft  Lofty as her mommy now. :)
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The only deflock that I own is a deflocked Twilight. I might want a defrocked Ribbon again sometime. :)

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Price Check Archives / PC for SS Twilight, in not so great condition
« on: August 28, 2015, 03:46:02 AM »
I have a SS Twilight that Im considering to sell as a deflocking project pony. Her hair is faded to  a very faint pink, but has all original curls intact, no frizz.
Her flocking has yellowed a lot and she has rubs to the normal areas ( ears, hoof edges and mouth)
She also has a few stains in her flocking but no age marks that affects the plastic beneath the glue.
Eyes and symbols looks perfect.

I think she will look amazing when the yucky flocking comes of. If it wasn't so yellowed to almost brown I guess she would have been a quite nice SS.
Now she could be a nice project! :) I don't have time at all, otherwise I would have done it myself. And I already have a nice deflocked one in my collection.

But what should I ask for her?

Please help! :)

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Pony Corral / Re: The mythology of Ribbon and Lofty...
« on: August 27, 2015, 11:51:38 AM »
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I tend to feel that the term 'international' applies to ponies sold in more than one continent. Strawberry Fair, Tex, Baby Tic Tac Toe are all International ponies because they were sold internationally

It could be seen like that, and I would have liked the term describing a "worldwide" distributed pony ..Like  Lickety Split (I think almost countries got her). But the term tends to mostly be used on ponies that is exclusive to europe. Like the Pony Friends or your Gypsy character (probably because they are described like that on DV) And that makes me a little annoyed as it only is in the amercan perspective... I get a bit sad when Swedish collectors talk about our Cupcake and Truly, or CP Bowtie as an international pony. They are very national in the country that the pony got sold in ;)

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I think we've still got a lot to do to really extricate different lines and I still feel there's not enough information about regarding pony distribution in Australia, New Zealand and that region of the world, so too often they get left out of discussion.
Yes I would really like to include them more, and learn more about what was avaliable. I hope to collect advertising from there! I think it was "Toltoys" (?) that distributed over there (can't remember exactly, but it's on the back of the Birthflower Ponies).

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Part of it is really our responsibility as collectors, though. If we want our lines to be recognised and taken seriously, then we have to be willing to correct misconceptions when we see them, rather than just disliking them.
It's a mission then! (As it has been for years) ;)

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Take accessories, for example. I can't identify my accessories because accessory variations in different places are not really taken into consideration on mainstream sites. Shooting star combs and flower brushes where the Rainbow Babies are concerned is one good example of this!
I hope to be of help about that in the future. :) I'm collecting all accessories and information about them that I come across.


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On another note, I found some Hasbro UK terminology referring to labelling of early My Little Pony. The comic that has the contest for Snowflake, Gypsy etc refers to them all as Little Ponies (so not simply an Earth term) and the My Little Pony club 1987 refers to them as "the basic ones like..." going on to list the Movie Star ponies, and then other species (Mountain Boys, Flutters etc).

I don't really like 'basic' and it is used with a small b, not a large one, so it's not really a term. I think therefore that My Little Pony is the correct, if uninspiring, UK label for the 1986 and 1987 sets, even though it would make sense for them to have been "Pony Friends" or "Movie Star Ponies" as in other places

Basic ponies, original ponies, standard, little Ponies, earthly ponies . Non of them are actual set names, as the real set name is simply My Little Pony for them like the very first set of ponies. The rest are specially gimmiked ponies. But these labels indicates that there is a need to separate them and categorize them when refering to them.
Our advertising is refering to the Pony Friends as "standard ponies", which indicates that they are the basic supply of ponies with no special gimmick. Likewise with the earth pony set.

Thats why I was using it in the other discussion in the Nirvana forum, not to change the name of the set but maybe to find a way to categorize them, and how to talk easily about them among collectors.
In US the My Little Pony set is called Earth ponies, but with no such label on the card. Earth ponies doesn't really work on the set with Gypsy and Honeycomb though. Basic ponies, original ponies or standard ponies is a better way, it doesnt have to have large letters. ;)

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Wanted! / Re: Wanted: G1 Twinkle Eyed Ponies (Masquerade Especially!)
« on: August 27, 2015, 06:40:33 AM »
If you want a lovely TE wizzer with just one real flaw I have one.
She has markings under her hoofs that can't be removed ( I have tried to sun fade them). Otherwise she is fantastic! Original curls and beautiful eyes.

I usually sell at swedish conventions, but I specialize in minty ponies, and I can't take Wizzer with me as she is. :( I feel so sorry for her! I don't want to place her in the bait box either (I have one behind my stall for children to buy and play with)  So if you want to adopt her I'm asking 7 dollar for her (same as in my bait box).
The shipping cost is quite pricey though...

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Pony Corral / Re: The mythology of Ribbon and Lofty...
« on: August 27, 2015, 06:21:07 AM »
I saw an auction last night for 'UK' baby Hopscotch. Annoyed pony geek is annoyed. You wonder why people don't twig that all these 'UK' ponies come out of countries other than the UK...or maybe they just don't know that the UK is not a collective term for all of Europe.

Well, that's like calling all the ponies not sold in the US for "international" ponies (and kind of expect us europeans to do so as well).  :P Like if everything centers around the US range of ponies...
I think people just switch that label to UK pony as in "not sold in the US pony". I wish that they did some research though. They could at least say european baby pony, that way it wouldn't be wrong, just not specified what country.   




What probably happened is Hasbro UK sent the comics people a set of model sheets without pulling out Ribbon, Baby Shady, etc.   I have part of a packet, they look like this:

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The comics people, not having any idea which toys were actually sold in the UK, dutifully included all the ponies on the model sheets in their comics.  As to why Hasbro sent them, it might be as simple as someone at the office not thinking of the implications, ha ha!  The sheets I have were sent to Brazil and include the BBE babies and TE ponies, despite Brazil seemingly not having the ability to produce ponies with specialized eyes.  (At least, they never did . . .)

The VHS tape is using a piece of stock art that was sent out to various media outlets to advertise MLP: The Movie.

Ribbon being in the backcard story is more interesting, since the backcard stories were made by Hasbro.  It's possible that Ribbon was originally going to be one of the Movie Star ponies, but was replaced by a different pony.  Or it's possible that the person writing the backcard stories was not particularly involved in decisions with which products were released and, again, was simply given a set of model sheets that included Ribbon.  (Like, maybe the person writing the backcards did not work specifically for the MLP 'department', but might have been doing packaging for many of Hasbro's toylines.)

Very cute backcard story, it's much better than the US one.

I actually own the full folder of this line art reference (it's very cool) and features the full US range of ponies from this year. They where used for merchandise and advertising and other printings, and sent out to companies that Hasbro collaborated with.

I also have 2 others from other years.

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