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Title: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: Daiyuflower on September 23, 2012, 06:56:29 AM
Could someone post a comparison pic with the original Dream Castle Spike, the lavender Dream Castle Spike, and Mail Order Spike?  I know there is a color difference between the Dream Castle versions, but it would be great to see photos.  Thanks!

If you don't have pictures, descriptions are good too ^_^
Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: Ivy on September 23, 2012, 07:09:11 AM
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There you go Left one is Lavender Castle one one on the Right is the Pink Castle one.
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Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: Daiyuflower on September 23, 2012, 07:10:47 AM
Thanks so much!
Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: hathorcat on September 23, 2012, 10:22:48 AM
I can only ever notice the difference when they are side by side! Although they are so different in shade its tough when you have only the one to make a decision.

Cute picture Ivy :)
Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: Daiyuflower on September 23, 2012, 10:55:43 AM
I can only ever notice the difference when they are side by side! Although they are so different in shade its tough when you have only the one to make a decision.

Cute picture Ivy :)
Yes, that is my problem exactly.  I'm looking for lavender castle Spike, but I can't ever tell from ebay auction photos which one it is.  Does anyone have a lavender castle Spike for sale?
Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: tulagirl on September 23, 2012, 11:10:49 AM
I am confused who is the guy in the middle? The MO version?
Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: hathorcat on September 23, 2012, 11:59:15 AM
I am confused who is the guy in the middle? The MO version?

Yes :) The mail order version

I can only ever notice the difference when they are side by side! Although they are so different in shade its tough when you have only the one to make a decision.

Cute picture Ivy :)
Yes, that is my problem exactly.  I'm looking for lavender castle Spike, but I can't ever tell from ebay auction photos which one it is.  Does anyone have a lavender castle Spike for sale?

It took me ages for the exact same reason I went through about 3 "bright" Spikes before I finally managed to grab him!
Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: Ianthe99 on September 23, 2012, 12:13:09 PM
Oh, so I might actually have two different versions? I thought one was just faded...
Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: Oneleo1 on September 23, 2012, 12:16:22 PM
The lavender dream castle version is difficult to tell when he is by himself. You almost need the regular version to compare to :)
Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: Breyer600 on September 23, 2012, 12:21:06 PM
I have two Spikes that I plan on putting in my sales and they are very different in color.  However, as far as I can tell it's just because one has faded/yellowed since the brighter one matches my original Spike.  I'll have to take a comparison shot of them.
Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: hathorcat on September 23, 2012, 12:29:32 PM
Ummmmm....I might have just had a random moment...but has anyone else noticed their eyes are different?

Pink Dream Castle Spike has dots of green eyes and Lavender Dream Castle Spike has crescent green eyes...I have never noticed this before!
Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: Breyer600 on September 23, 2012, 01:17:40 PM
Ummmmm....I might have just had a random moment...but has anyone else noticed their eyes are different?

Pink Dream Castle Spike has dots of green eyes and Lavender Dream Castle Spike has crescent green eyes...I have never noticed this before!

You might be on to something but you need to reverse it - it's the pink castle version with the crescent eyes in the pic.  That actually matches what I have.  Here's the comparison photo.  The one on the far right is my orginal; so, it's definitley the pink castle version.  Both the other two also have crescent eyes and the middle one is very close in color to my original; so, I'm fairly certain the one on the left is just faded (or just a different batch).

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Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: hathorcat on September 23, 2012, 01:48:41 PM
Lol...too excited when typing that I may have spotted a way to tell them apart to type properly...very good Cat *sarcastic*

I ll dig mine out later to check and see if mine have the same eye difference or if its just a printing issue on the one Ivy has pictured.
Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: Breyer600 on September 23, 2012, 02:04:06 PM
It will definitely be interesting to see what you find. :D  To my knowledge, I've never had a Lavender castle one pass through my hands and it's so hard to tell color differences just through pics. 
Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: sparkleset80 on September 23, 2012, 02:16:01 PM
I have my childhood G1 Spike from the pink Dream Castle plus the Lavendar Dream castle and they both have crescent shaped green in their eyes so I don't think that's how you can tell the difference. But side by side I can see how different they are by color.

Here is a pic of mine:
Left: Lavendar Dream Castle Spike (crescent shaped), Middle: Lavendar Dream Castle Spike (round shaped) and Right: Pink Dream Castle Spike (crescent shaped)
Probably just a factory thing
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Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: partypony566 on September 23, 2012, 02:46:37 PM
I've always wanted the cartoon eyed version, but I think they are all cute :)
Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: Filthy on September 23, 2012, 03:38:35 PM
You can check with a UV light. If I recall correctly (old pic), the regular Spike glows and the lavender castle version doesn't:
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Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: partypony566 on September 23, 2012, 03:47:07 PM
You can check with a UV light. If I recall correctly (old pic), the regular Spike glows and the lavender castle version doesn't:
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For real!? :shocked:
Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: Filthy on September 23, 2012, 03:53:35 PM
You can check with a UV light. If I recall correctly (old pic), the regular Spike glows and the lavender castle version doesn't

For real!? :shocked:

Atleast mine look like that. :biggrin: My UV light broke so I can't check which one was the lavender one, but I'm fairly sure he was the non-glowing. I forgot to check MO Spike, but the eyes are  obviously the easiest way to recognize him. :P
Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: Breyer600 on September 23, 2012, 04:03:03 PM
Well, I just checked the three I have under a black light and it was the faded one that glows.  Neither of the two brighter purple ones glowed.  Since one of those brighter ones is definitely the pink castle version that doesn't seem to be a good test either unfortunately.
Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: sparkleset80 on September 23, 2012, 06:33:38 PM
Well I just tried the blacklight trick and my childhood one (the one on the right, pink Dream Castle) did glow and the other 2 didn't. Also I turned them around and the tails are interesting!
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Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: ChipsteRJ on September 23, 2012, 07:37:20 PM
I do NOT have a black light to test with, but here are some back side photos of mine:
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The 2 on the right may be 2nd edition?


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Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: Breyer600 on September 23, 2012, 08:29:58 PM
I tried to get photos with the blacklight and here's how they came out.  It's still the one on the far right that's my childhood pink castle version (the other two are yard sales finds; so, I can't be certain on them).

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Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: hathorcat on September 24, 2012, 02:07:05 AM
Hmmm....I am thinking the UV light simply shows us different plastic batches. Dream Castle was released so many times and in so many countries, it could even have been made across different factories so perhaps the black light is just different plastics.

I guess the different eye shape is also the same thing...just different manufacture batches.
Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: Breyer600 on September 24, 2012, 12:28:45 PM
I agree that the UV thing must be batch related.  I was hoping the eye thing would be a good indicator but I guess not. 

Before I got my original out to compare, I thought the brighter of the two yard sale Spikes might have been a lavendar castle version.  He certainly looked about the right color from the pictures I'd seen and most of them were being compared to ones that looked like the faded/different batch one.  It was only when I thought to get my own out that I figured it was really just a pink castle version.  It actually made me wonder how many of what people believe to be "lavendar" versions are just unfaded "pink" versions.  Since I have never seen a "lavendar" in person to compare, it's hard to tell just how much difference there is just by pictures (especially if they're comparing the "lavendar" one to the "faded" one).
Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: Filthy on September 24, 2012, 01:09:11 PM
I tried to get photos with the blacklight and here's how they came out.  It's still the one on the far right that's my childhood pink castle version (the other two are yard sales finds; so, I can't be certain on them).

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Wow, I could have sworn the 2 on the right are from the lavender castle. :blink: All of the pink castle Spike's I've seen (no matter where they came from) have been much darker like the one on the left.

But yeah, obviously it's a plastic batch thing. So not all pink castle Spikes are dark and not all lavender one's light? Damn, now I can't be sure my other one is actually from the lavender castle ('cause I didn't get him with the castle). :huh:
Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: hathorcat on September 24, 2012, 01:14:03 PM
I agree that the UV thing must be batch related.  I was hoping the eye thing would be a good indicator but I guess not. 

Before I got my original out to compare, I thought the brighter of the two yard sale Spikes might have been a lavendar castle version.  He certainly looked about the right color from the pictures I'd seen and most of them were being compared to ones that looked like the faded/different batch one.  It was only when I thought to get my own out that I figured it was really just a pink castle version.  It actually made me wonder how many of what people believe to be "lavendar" versions are just unfaded "pink" versions.  Since I have never seen a "lavendar" in person to compare, it's hard to tell just how much difference there is just by pictures (especially if they're comparing the "lavendar" one to the "faded" one).

I am kind of starting to be of the same opinion. Are we perhaps just reading into the whole thing to much? Yes, there was a time difference between the pink version no longer being available and the lavender version turning up - but that being said it wasn't a massive difference as the pink version was available for several years on the trot. So as much as we are saying the pink castle versions of spike, in their different colours, are different batches or fading...perhaps the lavender Spikes are not a specifically different colour either but just a minor batch colour difference
Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: BabyIceCrystal on September 24, 2012, 01:52:25 PM
I have often wondered where the information originally came from. How do we know for sure that the two castles had different Spikes? Was it just an assumption originally that caught on as fact or was there some sort of proof back in the day? I honestly don't know, but with all the various hues of Spike floating around I have debated if all of them are just due to different batches and not necessarily different versions. Does anyone know how the information that there are two castle versions entered the community?
Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: hathorcat on September 24, 2012, 02:14:51 PM
Personally I have always just gone with the mainstream opinion - simply that its been "pony knowledge". Maybe its a myth however?
Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: Breyer600 on September 24, 2012, 02:42:24 PM
It wouldn't be the first time.  :lol:  When I first got my collection out of storage and tried sorting and ID'ing all the accessories, I couldn't for the life of me figure out why every site I looked at listed the Nursery accessories I had as being from the BBE version when I had the NBBE version. 

We probably need someone with the lavender version from their childhood collection to help clear things up.  Even then, it may be difficult to tell for sure without having enough that are confirmed to be one or the other to compare in person.

Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: Ivy on September 24, 2012, 03:00:46 PM
I really need to take another picture on a white backround - the one I believe came with the Lavender DC is pink - I mean he's not purple-pink but he's pink... He has the round spots on his eyes - never noticed that before my other spikes - I have like 4 or 5 all have the cresent moon eyes...
Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: hathorcat on September 24, 2012, 03:43:31 PM
I think you are both right we need someone who has it MIB - if they have the circular eyes then perhaps the ones we think are Lavender DC are in fact just different batches of Pink DC? And all Lavender DC have the circle eyes.
Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: Filthy on September 24, 2012, 03:50:44 PM
My life is no longer complete, I don't have all the dragons after all! :drunk: :yikes: And this is going to bother me a lot if we don't figure out a way to tell the dragons apart.  :blush:
Dragons are serious business. :cool:
Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: hathorcat on September 24, 2012, 03:53:22 PM
Lol...hey you could have the dragons or we could pretty much all be in a rush to track down a new dragon for our collections! Its a tough one right now without confirmation of some kind.
Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: Daiyuflower on September 24, 2012, 04:25:01 PM
I'll try hunting (again) for my childhood lavender castle Spike next time at my parents'.  I've tried looking a few times before because I think I kept it even though we donated the rest of my ponies, but I'm not sure. 
Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: ChipsteRJ on September 24, 2012, 08:45:55 PM
Rainbow Windy owns the MIB LAVENDER DC that was listed a few months ago on UK e-Bay. Perhaps asking her would help us...
Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: Starly on September 24, 2012, 08:49:07 PM
I wish the cartoon eyes Spike wasn't so expensive, the other eyes creep me out. :c
Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: hathorcat on September 25, 2012, 01:53:22 AM
Rainbow Windy owns the MIB LAVENDER DC that was listed a few months ago on UK e-Bay. Perhaps asking her would help us...

Was that the one Baby Honey was selling? I know there are a couple out there but literally very very few of them...hopefully someone with one of them has the time to be able to help :)

I did save an auction picture from that in order to find out about the combs and ribbons, but the only picture of Spike is side on and you can see his colour obviously not his eyes.
Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: Peppie on September 25, 2012, 08:07:49 AM
so there are 3 versions of Spike? I thought there was only 2 (different eyes) which I have.
Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: Daiyuflower on September 27, 2012, 08:08:01 PM
Ok so I'm still confused about the different colorways this little guy is available in.  I just received the Spike on the left of these photos, but he's a completely different color than the Spike I bought before:
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 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/oceanflo/8031669573/)
IMG_1735 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/oceanflo/8031669573/) by Owlipoppet (http://www.flickr.com/people/oceanflo/), on Flickr

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 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/oceanflo/8031669819/)
IMG_1736 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/oceanflo/8031669819/) by Owlipoppet (http://www.flickr.com/people/oceanflo/), on Flickr

So is lefty Spike supposedly the lavender castle one?  I suppose the other Spike could be faded, but the paint is a much darker color, more of a forest green while lefty Spike is bright green.
Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: ChipsteRJ on September 27, 2012, 09:35:30 PM
Daiyuflower, I agree. I always thought it had to do with the color of the spikes along the back. See my photo from above.
Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: hathorcat on September 28, 2012, 02:52:39 PM
The recent Lavender DC which was on ebay was apparently a childhood collection rather than a collector - the Spike in that set had the dots for eyes and not the crescent shape. I am starting to come back around to that being the only way to potentially tell them apart.
Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: Filthy on September 29, 2012, 05:28:32 AM
  I suppose the other Spike could be faded, but the paint is a much darker color, more of a forest green while lefty Spike is bright green.
I don't think he's faded. I have an old blurry photo from 80's were Majesty and Spike are posing in front of a dream castle, and the Spike in that pic is that dark. I don't have that specific Spike myself, it belonged to a friend, but he clearly is dark. I do have 3 different Spikes: dark one that came with a pink dream castle upgrade I got from ebay, the MO cartoon eye Spike (dark) and a light one I got from ebay, he was supposed to be from the lavender castle. I need to check their eyes..
Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: hathorcat on September 29, 2012, 09:54:07 AM
  I suppose the other Spike could be faded, but the paint is a much darker color, more of a forest green while lefty Spike is bright green.
I don't think he's faded. I have an old blurry photo from 80's were Majesty and Spike are posing in front of a dream castle, and the Spike in that pic is that dark. I don't have that specific Spike myself, it belonged to a friend, but he clearly is dark. I do have 3 different Spikes: dark one that came with a pink dream castle upgrade I got from ebay, the MO cartoon eye Spike (dark) and a light one I got from ebay, he was supposed to be from the lavender castle. I need to check their eyes..

If you could check that would be great!

I checked the one I have which I had thought was from the LDC but he has crescent eyes so I am guessing its not the case after all :(
Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: Filthy on October 15, 2012, 03:59:15 PM
Forgot to reply to this earlier.. :blush: Mine have crescent eyes too.
Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: hathorcat on October 15, 2012, 04:31:16 PM
I honestly am starting to think the dot eyes are the indicator but its tough without someone else having the set MIB - right now we have Ivy's and the childhood collection on ebay. Hopefully someone else can confirm or deny!
Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: Filthy on October 15, 2012, 05:25:28 PM
^The one on ebay atm, isn't that MO Majesty? The hairline comes so high?

I kinda like that customized castle. :ninja:
Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: Peppie on October 15, 2012, 06:26:38 PM
so confused  :huh: :huh: How many different versions of Spike are there? All these years I have only know of 2. Both of which I have.

I would LOVE to own the UK dragons but that is wishful thinking on my part. LOL
Title: Re: Different versions of G1 Spike?
Post by: hathorcat on October 16, 2012, 11:49:26 AM
so confused  :huh: :huh: How many different versions of Spike are there? All these years I have only know of 2. Both of which I have.

I would LOVE to own the UK dragons but that is wishful thinking on my part. LOL

3 versions - the pink Dream Castle version, the lavender Dream Castle version [which this conversation is about] and the mail order version with the eyes similar to the UK dragons.
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