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Title: Dose Filly Princess count as a fakie?
Post by: ember86 on April 17, 2012, 12:58:52 PM
Well I've been bitten by the Filly Princess bug and I want to know if we count them as fakies or not.
Title: Re: Dose Filly Princess count as a fakie?
Post by: KiwiSquirtBottle on April 17, 2012, 01:52:05 PM
I know in my head, if it's not a Hasbro MLP, it's a fakie. That's not to mean it's a direct rip off of Hasbro's mold/design, they're just not MLP. It's the easiest way for me to tell family/friends what ponies to bring me if they find 'em. XD
Title: Re: Dose Filly Princess count as a fakie?
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on April 17, 2012, 03:42:47 PM
Yes. They aren't Hasbro MLP.
Title: Re: Dose Filly Princess count as a fakie?
Post by: Sandi on April 17, 2012, 05:31:27 PM
Colorful little ponies that's not made by Hasbro = fakie to me.
Title: Re: Dose Filly Princess count as a fakie?
Post by: Wardah on April 17, 2012, 05:33:41 PM
I always considered "fakies" those ponies you find in the dollar stores with names like "Demon Donkey" and "My Small Horse" that use either Hasbro molds or something very similar. I don't tend to count them as fakies if they look very different from the Hasbro ponies. Then I consider them "other pony toys".
Title: Re: Dose Filly Princess count as a fakie?
Post by: PandaBerryInSpace on April 17, 2012, 05:44:13 PM
I consider them fakies -- just very detailed ones. :) I have four, one of which is a Filly Unicorn from Poland.
Title: Re: Dose Filly Princess count as a fakie?
Post by: ThriftyPony on April 17, 2012, 05:46:52 PM
Colorful little ponies that's not made by Hasbro = fakie to me.

My sentiments exactly. I have never heard of these before... What do they look like? Anyone have links to any photos?


Is this it:


http://www.bbtoystore.com/store/FP_S01_pack.html (http://www.bbtoystore.com/store/FP_S01_pack.html)


?? Where can I buy these? They're adorable!
Title: Re: Dose Filly Princess count as a fakie?
Post by: ember86 on April 17, 2012, 05:48:56 PM
To me they almost seem like they could be blind bag fakes. I got mine at TRU. Ironically it was in a MLP bling bag box, so I though what the hey, why not and brought it too. Now I must have more!
Title: Re: Dose Filly Princess count as a fakie?
Post by: Sandi on April 17, 2012, 05:53:39 PM
They're very cute. I have seen bigger ones too. In the size of a G3.
Title: Re: Dose Filly Princess count as a fakie?
Post by: lovesbabysquirmy on April 17, 2012, 08:47:24 PM
I have a whole bunch still in their BB packaging... like, 50 of them.  I use them as extras in trades and the like.  :)
Title: Re: Dose Filly Princess count as a fakie?
Post by: xeevee on April 17, 2012, 08:51:34 PM
I think they aren't.  I mean they aren't my little pony, but they aren't trying to be.  To me fakies are the ones that are trying to be in some fashion.  So a CPK pony isn't a fakie, but they have fakies which are :P
Title: Re: Dose Filly Princess count as a fakie?
Post by: ThriftyPony on April 17, 2012, 09:26:08 PM
Dang, are they cute though! I want some.
Title: Re: Dose Filly Princess count as a fakie?
Post by: Snapdragon on April 18, 2012, 01:43:14 AM
I have two of the little blind-bag ones, I think they're cute! :)
Title: Re: Dose Filly Princess count as a fakie?
Post by: hathorcat on April 18, 2012, 02:06:26 AM
I think they aren't.  I mean they aren't my little pony, but they aren't trying to be.  To me fakies are the ones that are trying to be in some fashion.  So a CPK pony isn't a fakie, but they have fakies which are :P

^This for me to. If something is setting out to "copy" Hasbro and the MLP brand then yes = fakie. However, there are a lot of toy lines which are ponies or include ponies in their own right - they are not impersonating Hasbro/MLP and are therefore their own line and not fakies. Some pony toy lines even had elements before Hasbro showed them so maybe Hasbro are copying! For example the Twilight pony line came with cute little animal friends before Hasbro launched G4.

BUT....I do understand that some collectors will simply say "not made by Hasbro" = fakie...
Title: Re: Dose Filly Princess count as a fakie?
Post by: gemini_pony on April 18, 2012, 02:56:24 AM
They're very cute. I have seen bigger ones too. In the size of a G3.

Where I need these!!! I love the little ones <3
Title: Re: Dose Filly Princess count as a fakie?
Post by: Sandi on April 18, 2012, 03:58:27 AM
They're very cute. I have seen bigger ones too. In the size of a G3.

Where I need these!!! I love the little ones <3
In various places where they sell toys. I found them while googling and they're called Filly Beauty Queen.
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Title: Re: Dose Filly Princess count as a fakie?
Post by: gemini_pony on April 18, 2012, 04:08:02 AM
owo I need one!!
Title: Re: Dose Filly Princess count as a fakie?
Post by: PandaBerryInSpace on April 18, 2012, 04:36:44 AM
I guess I should point out that Filly is more of a European toy. There have been several lines besides the princess line, including Unicorn, Forest and Fairy that have not been released in the United States. It seems that, so far, only blind bags have been released here.
Title: Re: Dose Filly Princess count as a fakie?
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on April 18, 2012, 06:04:37 AM
Filly Princess is sort of a name brand so it wouldn't be considered a official fakie. Some folks consider any toy pony that is not MLP to be a fakie but as others have explained fakies are ponies that are produced to copy MLP.

Back in the 80's up until today there are other companies who tried to jump on the band wagon of the popularity of My Little Pony. So these smaller toy companies make cheap imitation MLP. Even going so far as to use graphics and later a few have used very close mold copy of original MLP.

You can tell a fakie by the quality of the hair, how much hair is used, they eye paint and symbol design. Usually the hair quality is low and even the amount of hair used is minimal. THe paint in the eyes is usually pretty crappy, symbols and suck are next to non-existance on most of them.

Hasbro ponies tend to be very well made, the quality in G1 was always top notch, from hair to paint, etc. etc. A fakie will be poorly done, low quality and in a lot of cases pretty darn ugly.

Filly Princess is a brand and while I wouldn't say they meet the standards of G1 production they seem to be a little better quality than the average fakie.

I have some of the small blind bag ones. The one thing I have noticed about them, they have a kind of yucky smell. I'm not sure if this is the glue used on them to make them fuzzy or IF it's the actual plastic. This has just been my experience with the smaller blind bags so I don't really know about any of there other products but I've seen other things like little houses for them. The quality looks okay but it does look kind of cheap. Also the graphics on the blind bags while nice is not up to the standards I'd associate with Hasbro artwork, etc.


Title: Re: Dose Filly Princess count as a fakie?
Post by: Sandi on April 18, 2012, 06:34:31 AM
Lanard ponies have their own unique style and don't really copy hasbro, but they're still refered to as fakies.
Title: Re: Dose Filly Princess count as a fakie?
Post by: Dragonflitter on April 18, 2012, 12:57:05 PM
If people are looking for the little blind bag ones, check your local Target. Mine has a ton of these near the front beside the cash registers, where they keep the baseball/Pokemon cards, etc. The picture on the package does look adorable but I haven't talked myself into buying any yet lol
Title: Re: Dose Filly Princess count as a fakie?
Post by: ember86 on April 18, 2012, 01:06:16 PM
Next time I go to Target I'll check. I love that they're flocked or so-soft as I like to think.
Title: Re: Dose Filly Princess count as a fakie?
Post by: Dragonflitter on April 18, 2012, 01:24:26 PM
The larger one kinda scares me >_> what's with the brushable hair with a molded set of hair on top of it? o.0
Title: Re: Dose Filly Princess count as a fakie?
Post by: AnnaPommes on April 18, 2012, 01:48:57 PM
as far as i know, they started of as g3 fakies. you can still see some copied poses in the artwork. but because they´ve been cheaper, the kids got more of it and it became more popular. in germany they are even more popular as original MLP. ;)
theyare indeed flocked, the ones i had a while ago have even been flocked on the eyes, everywhere! XD
aaand i totally agree with dragonflitter.
 XD

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theyhave a lot better mold than these i had a few years back. what do you think about all the accessoirs? its a bit much for my taste. but the hair is molded nicely.
Title: Re: Dose Filly Princess count as a fakie?
Post by: gemini_pony on April 18, 2012, 02:04:43 PM
I love them!! I hope we get more of the waves here. Im thinking of deflocing some of them to customize them.
Title: Re: Dose Filly Princess count as a fakie?
Post by: Dragonflitter on April 18, 2012, 02:07:26 PM
emuel brings up a good point, the artwork (especially the one on front of the blind bag) is pretty obviously a copied pose from some G3 artwork. Does that make it a fakie brand? lol
Title: Re: Dose Filly Princess count as a fakie?
Post by: gemini_pony on April 18, 2012, 02:13:33 PM
I assumed they where ripe offs as some of the stickers are blatently copied from G3 art.

emuel brings up a good point, the artwork (especially the one on front of the blind bag) is pretty obviously a copied pose from some G3 artwork. Does that make it a fakie brand? lol
Title: Re: Dose Filly Princess count as a fakie?
Post by: hathorcat on April 18, 2012, 02:19:07 PM
Oh!!! I didnt know Filly Princesses had rearing poses cute....

Has anyone ever actually deflocked them?
Title: Re: Dose Filly Princess count as a fakie?
Post by: PandaBerryInSpace on April 18, 2012, 02:41:02 PM
Oh!!! I didnt know Filly Princesses had rearing poses cute....

Has anyone ever actually deflocked them?

I think I might have seen someone do it once, and from what I understand, it didn't turn out so well.
Title: Re: Dose Filly Princess count as a fakie?
Post by: gemini_pony on April 18, 2012, 02:43:52 PM
Oh!!! I didnt know Filly Princesses had rearing poses cute....

Has anyone ever actually deflocked them?


I think I might have seen someone do it once, and from what I understand, it didn't turn out so well.

I will attempt a de-flock on one of my extras soon I will keep you all posted on the outcome.
Title: Re: Dose Filly Princess count as a fakie?
Post by: StoryDreamer on April 18, 2012, 03:34:20 PM
I guess that's your choice. I think the term fakie has been used for years for the ponies that are copies of MLP, those made with the illegal and sold molds. 

I see Filly Princess at Target all the time.
Title: Re: Dose Filly Princess count as a fakie?
Post by: LadyMoondancer on April 18, 2012, 03:57:08 PM
Personally, I consider any non-Hasbro, non-realistic, pastel/rainbow colored plastic ponies to be fakies, regardless of quality.   Because Hasbro really was the first, the very first, to put pony + bubbly body + unrealistic colors together, as far as I know.   I think even the Lisa Frank unicorns came after the debut of MLP.

Of course by now the idea is mainstream, but when I was growing up it was always a choice between "Hasbro ponies" and "those other ones."   So I understand that some people judge fakies by quality, but to me any non-Hasbro fantasy, (presumed to be) sapient pony is a fakie.

As far as the Filly Princess ponies go--super cute, but definitely copying G3 IMO.
Title: Re: Dose Filly Princess count as a fakie?
Post by: Sora on April 18, 2012, 04:00:38 PM
I use the term fakie for anything not MLP, but for me, it doesn't always mean they're of poor quality.

I love Filly Princess, but I love the original Filly series more. I have a couple of plushies, as well as a magazine from France. They're very popular near me too.
Title: Re: Dose Filly Princess count as a fakie?
Post by: gemini_pony on April 18, 2012, 04:02:48 PM
Personally, I consider any non-Hasbro, non-realistic, pastel/rainbow colored plastic ponies to be fakies, regardless of quality.   Because Hasbro really was the first, the very first, to put pony + bubbly body + unrealistic colors together, as far as I know.   I think even the Lisa Frank unicorns came after the debut of MLP.

Of course by now the idea is mainstream, but when I was growing up it was always a choice between "Hasbro ponies" and "those other ones."   So I understand that some people judge fakies by quality, but to me any non-Hasbro fantasy, (presumed to be) sapient pony is a fakie.

As far as the Filly Princess ponies go--super cute, but definitely copying G3 IMO.


Not sure about their unicorns but the Lisa Frank company was founded in 1979
Title: Re: Dose Filly Princess count as a fakie?
Post by: StoryDreamer on April 18, 2012, 04:52:45 PM
Ah the The Tragic Life of Lisa Frank (http://www.ucbcomedy.com/videos/play/8638/lisa-frank)  (**JOKE VIDEO)


I can see how they're copying G3.
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