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Quote from: LadyMoondancer on September 22, 2020, 09:30:41 AMI think being tied to a pony's destiny or at least interests is kind of necessary, because it would be weird if symbols were random. Like if a pony got a pear symbol but hated pears. Or a pony with a gluten allergy got a wheat symbol.I guess they could have the symbols change as the ponies age and their interests change, but . . . personally I don't like that idea. Imagine Night Glider suddenly getting different symbols because she isn't into space anymore. It might be unrealistic to say "She will always have this interest, that will never change", but it's okay for fictional worlds to be unrealistic.Why should it be tied to their destiny? Tying it to theme/name/interest is fine, but having it appear when you've finally found your calling in life and being something of a social pariah until you do is dumb. And it was way too late in the game for Hasbro to drop that nonsense into the line.
I think being tied to a pony's destiny or at least interests is kind of necessary, because it would be weird if symbols were random. Like if a pony got a pear symbol but hated pears. Or a pony with a gluten allergy got a wheat symbol.I guess they could have the symbols change as the ponies age and their interests change, but . . . personally I don't like that idea. Imagine Night Glider suddenly getting different symbols because she isn't into space anymore. It might be unrealistic to say "She will always have this interest, that will never change", but it's okay for fictional worlds to be unrealistic.
Quote from: Leave a Whisper on September 22, 2020, 10:40:03 AMQuote from: LadyMoondancer on September 22, 2020, 09:30:41 AMI think being tied to a pony's destiny or at least interests is kind of necessary, because it would be weird if symbols were random. Like if a pony got a pear symbol but hated pears. Or a pony with a gluten allergy got a wheat symbol.I guess they could have the symbols change as the ponies age and their interests change, but . . . personally I don't like that idea. Imagine Night Glider suddenly getting different symbols because she isn't into space anymore. It might be unrealistic to say "She will always have this interest, that will never change", but it's okay for fictional worlds to be unrealistic.Why should it be tied to their destiny? Tying it to theme/name/interest is fine, but having it appear when you've finally found your calling in life and being something of a social pariah until you do is dumb. And it was way too late in the game for Hasbro to drop that nonsense into the line.But if it's a special interest that your butt knows you'll have for the rest of your life . . . how is that different from "your destiny"?It just seems inescapable that there's an element of "Yeah, you like this one thing forever" unless a gen did away with symbols altogether or made them change. But also, I don't think most kids are going to read that much into it?Like in Avatar: The Last Airbender the four nations were split up by element type and you could argue the same thing--that it was saying that you were pre-destined only to be able to do ONE thing, if you were born in the Fire Nation you couldn't become an Air Bender, and that was limiting. But . . . did kids actually interpret it that way? Because I've never heard someone who grew up watching ATLA say that.(And I am aware that the sequel series, Korra, wasn't like that, but I also know a lot of people who watched ATLA but not Korra.)
I'd love to see more elaborate designs i.e like Twice as Fancy ponies and cascading symbols being commonplace. As long as they all colour co-ordinated well. Perhaps magic colour changing features too, that somehow matched the ponies magical/practical abilities.For example, a pony with an open book cutie mark, that under the heat of your thumb would show up text or a picture. This pony's interest would be reading and/or history, something like that
Yes, bring back gimmicky symbols! I’d especially like to see more TaFs and gradients. I’m probably completely alone in this... but I remember back when G3 was first announced, and Hasbro first coined the term “cutie mark”. I was SO relieved! I was sick of cumbersome terminology like “flank symbol”, and was really happy to have a cute, Hasbro-specific name for it that rolled off the tongue. I don’t love the way cutie marks were so exaggerated in G4 (or most of the goofier elements of G4, for that matter), but I’ll always think of it as a G3 term firstly.
Quote from: Nemesis on September 22, 2020, 02:09:23 PMYes, bring back gimmicky symbols! I’d especially like to see more TaFs and gradients. I’m probably completely alone in this... but I remember back when G3 was first announced, and Hasbro first coined the term “cutie mark”. I was SO relieved! I was sick of cumbersome terminology like “flank symbol”, and was really happy to have a cute, Hasbro-specific name for it that rolled off the tongue. I don’t love the way cutie marks were so exaggerated in G4 (or most of the goofier elements of G4, for that matter), but I’ll always think of it as a G3 term firstly.Afaik they didn't start using the term Cutie Mark until G3 focused on the Core 7.
No, they started using it almost immediately. And for years MLP collectors mistakenly thought "cutie mark" meant the hoof heart (that indicated the foot where the magnet was), so you would see sale listings like "good symbol, slight scuff on cutie mark." Edit: This pony is from the 2nd year of G3, but I thiiiink they used the term even earlier than that--like in promotional announcements and stuff. Not positive, though.
Quote from: LadyMoondancer on September 22, 2020, 06:00:04 PMNo, they started using it almost immediately. And for years MLP collectors mistakenly thought "cutie mark" meant the hoof heart (that indicated the foot where the magnet was), so you would see sale listings like "good symbol, slight scuff on cutie mark." Edit: This pony is from the 2nd year of G3, but I thiiiink they used the term even earlier than that--like in promotional announcements and stuff. Not positive, though.First I heard about Cutie Marks as a kid was either in the "Meet the Ponies" book or the "How to Draw" book, which had to have been 2003. I think they're mentioned in both but it comes down to which one I owned first.
Dismissing “girly” interests in a toyline/show aimed at young girls is as harmful as dismissing any other interests or pursuits. In both cases, we’re telling girls and women that they shouldn’t like or partake in something because of their gender.