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Quote from: sailorstitch on September 29, 2019, 01:00:32 PMI want to get one of these sometime to support the line. But I would be beyond shocked if the Wal-Mart in my conservative small town stocked them.Nobody is seeing them in any of the stores yet- as far as I know of- it makes me wonder if both Target and Walmart are offering them online only...
I want to get one of these sometime to support the line. But I would be beyond shocked if the Wal-Mart in my conservative small town stocked them.
Quote from: Zapper on September 26, 2019, 03:45:47 PMI wasn't demanding private parts, btw Just more options to change the bodytypes.Quote from: Galactica on September 26, 2019, 01:06:50 PMI have heard that toystores (and children's clothing stores) in Europe are nothing like what we see in the US.Depends on the store. Most of the time the type of toy and the aggressive marketing color divides the isles on its own (opposed to the 70s were a lot of packaging for kids was yellow to attract the eye).A big store here has very obvious "boy corners" and "girl corners". Like the walls suddenly become pink when you start looking for dolls but the large Rey from Star Wars dolls are in boy land.Ah, well that's disappointing. Same everywhere then. I had read somewhere that Barbie (and therefore Mattel) is the one 100% responsible for the "PINK" isle for girls and for defining pink as the "girl" color.
I wasn't demanding private parts, btw Just more options to change the bodytypes.Quote from: Galactica on September 26, 2019, 01:06:50 PMI have heard that toystores (and children's clothing stores) in Europe are nothing like what we see in the US.Depends on the store. Most of the time the type of toy and the aggressive marketing color divides the isles on its own (opposed to the 70s were a lot of packaging for kids was yellow to attract the eye).A big store here has very obvious "boy corners" and "girl corners". Like the walls suddenly become pink when you start looking for dolls but the large Rey from Star Wars dolls are in boy land.
I have heard that toystores (and children's clothing stores) in Europe are nothing like what we see in the US.
Part of what I like is just the absence of any packaging or design that screams THIS IS A GIRL TOY or THIS IS A BOY TOY - like hot pink with flowers and hearts- or BLUE with manly Machines and stuff.I walked through Target just the other day and all of the toys in the girl "Pink Isles" vs the boy isles are very obnoxiously gendered. I have heard that toystores (and children's clothing stores) in Europe are nothing like what we see in the US.
Mattel has been not just hyper-feminizing their adult female dolls for a while, they also did that to the kid dolls. That's how you ended up with Shelleys/Chelseas/Kellies that had eyes that looked like they were wearing eye makeup and lips that looked like lipstick. The Enchantimals and MH were even worse in that regard.
Btw I think these dolls raise another issue: they all look like boys in the Mattel style.Mattel has been not just hyper-feminizing their adult female dolls for a while, they also did that to the kid dolls. That's how you ended up with Shelleys/Chelseas/Kellies that had eyes that looked like they were wearing eye makeup and lips that looked like lipstick. The Enchantimals and MH were even worse in that regard.Their bodies were more shapely than the boys. Also their faceshapes could never be anything else than heart or oval. It was close to "sexy baby".These new dolls are more natural looking and have more definition and that immediatly makes them look like EAH boys to me because I am used to doll girls having vapidly grinning faces with big eyelashes and barely a jaw bone
Or is it because they're too new? They've only been out, what, 2 weeks?
Quote from: Zapper on October 02, 2019, 01:53:55 AMMattel has been not just hyper-feminizing their adult female dolls for a while, they also did that to the kid dolls. That's how you ended up with Shelleys/Chelseas/Kellies that had eyes that looked like they were wearing eye makeup and lips that looked like lipstick. The Enchantimals and MH were even worse in that regard.yeah, as much as I love Enchantimals, I have to admit you're right here. I mean, look at this:(pic is small, I'm just putting it under a spoiler cut since it's technically off-topic)Spoiler(excuse the clutter in the background)visitors can't see pics , please register or loginKarina's meant to be younger (I assume?), but Scoots' face is much more youthful. The Enchantimals look like kids just fine when you put them amongst other Mattel dolls (i.e. MH), but when you put them next to other kid dolls.. they look a bit off.to go back to the dolls being discussed here, yeah, they look more "boyish" than "androgynous" to me, too.