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Re: WOLFIECHICK's AUTHENTIC REVERSE GUSTY found in 1997 in the UK!
« Reply #75 on: April 25, 2016, 09:41:12 AM »
Thoughts on this girl? The one with the pink ribbon is the Scandinavian version & the one in front is my childhood US release.


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Re: WOLFIECHICK's AUTHENTIC REVERSE GUSTY found in 1997 in the UK!
« Reply #76 on: April 25, 2016, 12:40:33 PM »
I don't think its possible to tell by just one photo.. the stems look more a little more curved from what I can see. Can you send us more photos of her? Also where did you get her?
Check for the following characteristics when your comparing her to the normal gusty and the UK gusty.

THE REVERSE GUSTY CHARACTERISTICS:
1. Has slightly darker green stripe in mane
2. Has pointed and curved leaves in symbols of a silvery purple color.
    Symbols have a more detailed and delicate appearance than the regular or Scandi releases.
3. Has factory woven head and small tail washer
4. Has slightly more shinny silky cherry red hair with a heavy pink overtone
5. Has a lighter brown color for her thick eyebrows and a black color for her eye lashes
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Re: WOLFIECHICK's AUTHENTIC REVERSE GUSTY found in 1997 in the UK!
« Reply #77 on: April 25, 2016, 12:48:26 PM »
I'll have to get my light box set up to take additional clear pictures. I'll post where she came from after people weigh in with opinions, so her origins doesn't sway opinions. ;)

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Re: WOLFIECHICK's AUTHENTIC REVERSE GUSTY found in 1997 in the UK!
« Reply #78 on: April 25, 2016, 12:54:12 PM »
I think we need to look at location as well kitakitavintage. Its not the determining factor of course as we know ponies travel.
So far Babydolls and mine were found in the UK. As well as the Delaney's RG which as also a UK find.

We do know for a fact my fake gusty was found in the US.. So it
does matter a bit as to where she came from. I think with Reverse Gustys, clear paper trails
regarding ownership and origination are very important. Especially as we look to try and authenticate those in the community.
Again its not essential but it adds to the larger picture of authentication.
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Re: WOLFIECHICK's AUTHENTIC REVERSE GUSTY found in 1997 in the UK!
« Reply #79 on: April 25, 2016, 02:10:15 PM »
I thought one of the originals came from the US? Can't remember which one though, and ponies do travel. Wolfiechick was a US person as I recall, as were the Delaneys and TWO non-British residents finding them in the UK when at that time no UK people found them seems a little odd. Babydoll's was an ebay UK auction though.
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Re: WOLFIECHICK\\\'s AUTHENTIC REVERSE GUSTY found in 1997 in the UK!
« Reply #80 on: April 25, 2016, 07:38:01 PM »
I’m aware that origins & a trail of ownership plays a big part in authenticating a rare pony. What I’m most interested in, is if we are able to confirm or deny a real Reverse Gusty based on looks since there are at least 2 examples that have matching definitive features. ;)

So here is my girl. I will share where she came from later, but I want to see how people think she compares to the ponies that Ember & Babydoll own. :)
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US Gusty (her head was already loose. My Scandinavian Gusty and Cherry Treats' heads are sealed so their washers are not available to compare. ) :
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Hair Stitching & Neck:
Reverse Gusty’s head is still partially attached at the back of her neck. I took pictures as best as I could without ripping her head away from her body.

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Re: WOLFIECHICK's AUTHENTIC REVERSE GUSTY found in 1997 in the UK!
« Reply #81 on: April 25, 2016, 09:19:09 PM »
Just a clarification... My gusty was bought in a uk lot by wolfiechick.. So she was technically sold by a uk person to a community member in the US. And the delaneys bought theirs from someone in the UK that found it at a car boot sale. So yes they all have been found in the UK so far including babydoll's.

The evidence looks good so far. From what i have seen i am leaning toward authentic. The symbols are the dead give away. They are the right shape. The hair color has a pink overtone too. It seems spot on with my reverse gusty. Its not the flat color of cherry treats.


Can you tell me if she has brown eyeliner? I can't tell from the photos.
I am going to measure the gustys tail washer tomorrow and let you know if the washer size is normal.
Her symbols looks very pinkish..  Is she missing lots of glitter?

Can you get some better shots of the inside of her head? In daylight would be best. I am having a hard time seeing what
is happening in there.

What do you think babydoll?
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Re: WOLFIECHICK's AUTHENTIC REVERSE GUSTY found in 1997 in the UK!
« Reply #82 on: April 26, 2016, 08:22:49 AM »
Her eyeliner is definitely brown. Its similar to the brown eyeliner of NSS Truly & Cupcake.

The symbols have a good bit of glitter loss... consistent with an average  "played with" pony. Her body is slightly yellowed & the end of her tail is a bit dry. Her general condition is on par with my childhood Gusty who I can say was played with a lot. :P

I'll see if I can get more pics of the inside of her head. Since the head is still attached to the body at the base of the neck, it's hard to get a clear shot of the inside due to the limited angle. There's definitely glue in the green section. The upper part looks like a tightly stitched factory weave near the horn and through the midsection, while the last bit  near the neck is a bit loopier.

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Re: WOLFIECHICK's AUTHENTIC REVERSE GUSTY found in 1997 in the UK!
« Reply #83 on: April 26, 2016, 08:31:34 AM »
If her eyeliner is brown i would say she's legit. No scammer would have known about that and the normal scandi gusty has black eyeliner.
Everything else checks out. Her symbols, hair, stripe, and eyeliner. 
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Re: WOLFIECHICK's AUTHENTIC REVERSE GUSTY found in 1997 in the UK!
« Reply #84 on: April 26, 2016, 11:56:25 AM »
Ember1 and Babydoll what is the diameter of your RG's washers?

Ember1, Babydoll and KKV how long does the mane measure?

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Re: WOLFIECHICK's AUTHENTIC REVERSE GUSTY found in 1997 in the UK!
« Reply #85 on: April 26, 2016, 01:14:04 PM »
If her eyeliner is brown i would say she's legit. No scammer would have known about that and the normal scandi gusty has black eyeliner.
Everything else checks out. Her symbols, hair, stripe, and eyeliner.

Don't you guys think that maybe the scammer may be a part of the pony community? That's what would worry me- why else make a fake "reverse gusty" ?

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Re: WOLFIECHICK's AUTHENTIC REVERSE GUSTY found in 1997 in the UK!
« Reply #86 on: April 26, 2016, 01:28:03 PM »
The brown eyeliner was just discovered by babydoll. It would have been inpossible for a scammer to have known about this previously. The symbol differences are a new discovery too. It was previously thought she had the scandinavian or us glitter symbol. We now know she has a unique symbol.
So even if a community member was a scammer they still would not have known these details until the last few weeks. And even then it would be very very hard to replicate.
« Last Edit: April 26, 2016, 01:54:55 PM by Ember1 »
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Re: WOLFIECHICK's AUTHENTIC REVERSE GUSTY found in 1997 in the UK!
« Reply #87 on: April 26, 2016, 01:59:43 PM »
I love how scientific/ CSI this post is!   I am also impressed by the level of expertise in the community.


*makes note to not commit murder around Ember1 as she would clearly catch me*

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Re: WOLFIECHICK's AUTHENTIC REVERSE GUSTY found in 1997 in the UK!
« Reply #88 on: April 26, 2016, 02:30:10 PM »

*makes note to not commit murder around Ember1 as she would clearly catch me*

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Re: WOLFIECHICK's AUTHENTIC REVERSE GUSTY found in 1997 in the UK!
« Reply #89 on: April 26, 2016, 02:43:50 PM »
The brown eyeliner was just discovered by babydoll. It would have been inpossible for a scammer to have known about this previously. The symbol differences are a new discovery too. It was previously thought she had the scandinavian or us glitter symbol. We now know she has a unique symbol.
So even if a community member was a scammer they still would not have known these details until the last few weeks. And even then it would be very very hard to replicate.

Ah!  Well I am also impressed with the analysis. 

 

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