Animation errors in the G1 cartoons.

[ponyqueen]

I think you're right Al-1701. I bet Lofty's extra leg was supposed to be Heart Throbs. I thought when they went to the next episode and showed the ponies trapped in a different position it was because the animators weren't paying attention to the ponies being caught on their backs but maybe it was so hard to animate that they decided to put them in different positions for the rest of the time they were caught in the trap?

Lofty does have a fifth leg- if you look closely, Heart Throb's leg is barely visible behind Lofty's extra.

Post Merge: January 26, 2016, 03:30:42 PM

I think it's been a while since we had a thread like this. There were a lot of animation errors in the MLP series of cartoons.  Here is one.

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Lofty has 5 legs.

[Al-1701]

I meant that the line artists made two right hind legs for Heart Throb.  They might have even been different positions for the animation.  However, one of them was colored for Lofty.  Then the people who aligned them saw it was a lofty leg and added it, and the third leg was placed because it was her original leg.

Again, this had to have been one of the biggest pains to make because of all the layers involved.

[Ponyfan]

Here's one from My Little Pony the movie. Baby Lofty is a unicorn instead of a pegasus

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Ponyfan

[Al-1701]

Actually, Baby Lofty is TWO unicorns.  You can just make out the second one coming into frame.

My Little Pony the movie, to meet its breakneck production schedule, hired a lot of Toei's cheapest animators.  I think communications broke down completely at some point.

[cyberunicorn]

Here's one from My Little Pony the movie. Baby Lofty is a unicorn instead of a pegasus

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It might be an error but how cute is baby lofty as a unicorn 


Ponyfan

[Ponyfan]

Actually, Baby Lofty is TWO unicorns.  You can just make out the second one coming into frame.

My Little Pony the movie, to meet its breakneck production schedule, hired a lot of Toei's cheapest animators.  I think communications broke down completely at some point.

I see the 2nd Baby Lofty now also.


Ponyfan

[northstar3184]

I've been watching the complete series on DVD over the past couple days.

One of my favorite errors is in Bright Lights. The sheriff of Muensterville apparently suffered from a major identity crisis. First, he was a large-built sheriff. In multiple later scenes he became a skinny villager, and at the end he's the big sheriff again. It's just bizarre, because it was a massive change in appearance and it occurred numerous times.

On http://www.mylittlewiki.org/wiki/Bright_Lights#Errors, it says he actually adopted several personas throughout the episode, so I'll have to watch it again.

[LadyMoondancer]

Gusty with hands will live in my nightmares.

And YES, I totally remember the mouse sheriff who changed from episode to episode!  With each new episode segment they gave him a different appearance.

[Jorgito93]

I love when characters just disappear and are replaced by others with no logic, for exemple in the movie when they climb a mountain half of the cast changes.Also in The glass princess there's some cool stuff too:
Paradise changes into Posey, because why not?
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Then Surprise found that it was fun, so she decided to join in too, again, why not?
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[Lilja]

My Little Pony the movie, to meet its breakneck production schedule, hired a lot of Toei's cheapest animators.  I think communications broke down completely at some point.

I've read somewhere that Toei only animated the witches segments while the rest of the movie was animated by AKOM (a Korean studio which isn't exactly known for great quality). I have no confirmation for this, but I'd believe it. When we're with the witches the art often looks better and the movement is more fluid (just like it was in the first two specials, which were completely animated by Toei). The witches also look more on-model when they're at the volcano of gloom, compared to when they're interacting with the ponies in their environments.
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No idea why they decided the witches deserved better animation though.


And yeah, I noticed the mouse character changing models in Brights Lights. That was impossible to miss, even as a child!

[Al-1701]

I was looking into that as well.  I think the issue was Sunbow and Marvel had a massive workload this year.  Full seasons of Transformers, G.I. Joe, My Little Pony 'n Friends, Jem, and three movies.  AKOM had been taking over animation duties since the previous year.  I think due to their rush, they split the duties.  There are some pony segments that were better animated as well (you can tell because the Twinkle Eyed Ponies had actual gems in their eyes).  And having two studios working on something at once probably led to even further communication breakdowns especially if the original notes were written in Japanese and now had to be translated into Korean.

The Toei/AKOM continued into the series too.  That is why episodes varied wildly in animation quality.  I'm still not which studio was responsible for the "bare arms" bushwoolies.

[Lilja]

There are some pony segments that were better animated as well (you can tell because the Twinkle Eyed Ponies had actual gems in their eyes).

Interesting! I'll have to look into that. I'm pretty sure the smooze song was animated by Toei. It has the same feel to it as other witch scenes (and this song number is probably the most visually impressive part of the movie). And even if we only get glimpses of the ponies during it (what is it with this movie and its heavy focus on random woodland creatures over the ponies?) they seem to look slightly different compared to how they look for the rest of the movie.

Of course, there were many different artists from both animation studios working on this, so the look of the characters will vary somewhat either way. But the Toei stuff still feels a lot more consistent. Telltale signs AKOM animation seem to be off-model art, jerky movements and characters who seem to be made out of rubber and lack bone structure. And a whole lot more animation errors.

[Leave a Whisper]

In Glass Princess, Molly's mouth moves while Shady is talking. I love looking for stuff like this in 80s and 90s cartoons. Its fun.

[dragonfly]

haha I remember even noticing these as a kid! But it's part of what makes it so charming to me
I remember one --- - can't think of it -- in the Magic Horseshoes. Something about either Buttons or Mimic. I'll have to watch again tonight and see if I can catch it.

[Al-1701]

In Crunch the Rock, the proto-Geodudes move their lips while Buttons talks and moves her lips.

In the Magic Coins, there was also a point where Molly moved her lips, but there was no speech at all.  It's like either they forgot to add the audio clip (judging by the lip movement I think she was saying "Thank you"), or someone got the wrong memo.