Is this pony legit

[Emfen]

I invested quite some money on this gal, and she is my first "NC" winger so obviously I am a bit nervous. Anyone experienced who may put my worries to rest?

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[pinkkittywinks]

She's the real deal the hoof mark removal does look messy.

Congrats! Which winger is it? I can't tell from that angle

Love pkw

[LadyGuinevere]

Yep they are out there, but they often go unnoticed!

Is it Whirly?

[Emfen]

Yes it is Whirly
I am a very new collector on spanish wingers and when I saw her up for grabs I took the chance,  thanks for helping. I feel calm now that I know I got a real spanish pony.

[pinkkittywinks]

You did the right thing to ask if it's put your mind at rest

Love pkw xxx

[Melodia]

I have a pony like this too in my collection, does anyone know why they scraped the markings off?

[slyons]

I have a pony like this too in my collection, does anyone know why they scraped the markings off?

I've always wondered this too?

[lunar_scythe]

I think what it is is the company wasn't too careful about how they removed the country from the mold, and just scraped or filed the letters off?  So the mold is a little rough, and lower on that foot then the rest(not much, just the depth of the letters), making it look like it was filled in later.

[Lore-Lei]

Then... Congratulations Emie.

[pinkkittywinks]

I have a pony like this too in my collection, does anyone know why they scraped the markings off?

I've always wondered this too?

Hoof markings indicate the country of manufacture. The moulds used to make the ponies were modified to remove the Hong Kong mark either by scraping away of filling in the hoof stamp.

Love pkw xxx

[LadyPinwheel]

Yes, the spanish wingers all look like that. ^^ Congrats for getting her. She is one of my fav.

[slyons]

I have a pony like this too in my collection, does anyone know why they scraped the markings off?

I've always wondered this too?

Hoof markings indicate the country of manufacture. The moulds used to make the ponies were modified to remove the Hong Kong mark either by scraping away of filling in the hoof stamp.

Love pkw xxx

Thanks for the info pkw, but how do you know when it's it's a legit no country versus someone just scraping off the name? Like, is there a another way to tell other than the scraped hoof?

[LadyPinwheel]

I have a pony like this too in my collection, does anyone know why they scraped the markings off?

I've always wondered this too?

Hoof markings indicate the country of manufacture. The moulds used to make the ponies were modified to remove the Hong Kong mark either by scraping away of filling in the hoof stamp.

Love pkw xxx

Thanks for the info pkw, but how do you know when it's it's a legit no country versus someone just scraping off the name? Like, is there a another way to tell other than the scraped hoof?

I know it's not someone scraping the pony because all of the NC wingers I've bought come from non collectors who don't know or care if a pony in NC or not. They just want to sell it. And I don't think a collector with common sense would scrape a pony.

NC Wingers have very slight differences with the HK/China counterparts. I had two Moonjumpers and the NC one had a slight different pose, the head was lower. And my NC Moonjumper was a little bit lighter than the HK.

I had the same doubts as you concerning this set. The first NC winger I got, I was worried it would be someone messing around. In fact, I have a childhood Flurry and it's marked HK (or china, can't remember), but I know there is an NC too. So my only theory is that in the spanish factory they where very "chapuzas" or messy and did things the quick way. So instead of going over with hot plastic, like other NC ponies or modifying the mold, they cut bits off. 

[slyons]

I have a pony like this too in my collection, does anyone know why they scraped the markings off?

I've always wondered this too?

Hoof markings indicate the country of manufacture. The moulds used to make the ponies were modified to remove the Hong Kong mark either by scraping away of filling in the hoof stamp.

Love pkw xxx

Thanks for the info pkw, but how do you know when it's it's a legit no country versus someone just scraping off the name? Like, is there a another way to tell other than the scraped hoof?

I know it's not someone scraping the pony because all of the NC wingers I've bought come from non collectors who don't know or care if a pony in NC or not. They just want to sell it. And I don't think a collector with common sense would scrape a pony.

NC Wingers have very slight differences with the HK/China counterparts. I had two Moonjumpers and the NC one had a slight different pose, the head was lower. And my NC Moonjumper was a little bit lighter than the HK.

I had the same doubts as you concerning this set. The first NC winger I got, I was worried it would be someone messing around. In fact, I have a childhood Flurry and it's marked HK (or china, can't remember), but I know there is an NC too. So my only theory is that in the spanish factory they where very "chapuzas" or messy and did things the quick way. So instead of going over with hot plastic, like other NC ponies or modifying the mold, they cut bits off.

The things you learn!! Thanks LadyPinwheel!  I would also like to think a collector who had common sense wouldn't scrape off a country marking, but someone who would like to take monetary advantage of a dumbass like me might, that's my concern 
I think I'm going to leave the NC Nirvana's to the professionals! Still nice to look at your ponies though 

[pinkkittywinks]

Slyon it is very tricky sometimes and it's best to ask if you feel unsure. I have no doubt there will be folks into dodgy dealings.

The way the hoof is scraped does look like a tamper rather than something "factory". The same goes for Greek hoof marks and some others too.

The German release Princess ponies have the PAT PEND mark removed in a similar scraped off type fashion. It was a surprise to me when I first saw it!

I sometimes take it for granted that over the last 13 years I've looked at an awful lot of hoof markings and so I've perhaps forgotten how it might appear to someone else.

Love pkw xxx