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I'm going to sort of disagree. I feel Hasbro is giving adult collectors more attention than they ever have... but I don't like it. I collected toys, not collectibles. KWIM?
Personally, I would rather they spent more time developing the actual G4 toy line than worrying about making special super duper ponies directed at me, just because I'm an adult. I have a wall of ponies directed and made for children, why does putting the word adult behind it make a difference to me as a long time MLP collector?I have nothing against special edition ponies but I just do not buy every single pony anymore because it's a re-release of the same thing over and over.
yeah I wonder how the Takara relationship affects what TFs adult fans get.
So then g4 came out and somewhere somehow it become all about these Bronies. How when why, I don't even pretend to understand. I'm not saying MLP is only a girls toy, but I have issues with teen/young men telling me how ponies are supposed to be. What toys are supposed to be, what merch I should see in stores, how tv characters personalities are supposed to be. I also have issues with the fact that I have a 3 year old daughter who loves the show and who loves the few ponies she has and how sad she gets when we find blind bags that are torn open ever time we are at Walmart and Target, how ponies are ripped out of boxes or the shelves are empty because certain people feel they can do that because the show is so popular and in their minds kids shouldn't have them.fact is fact - it's a *toy* line with a cartoon.Now, I'd say a good majority of us are "adult" collectors because we had g1 as a child and we loved those ponies and we love that we have people who are as obsessed with MLP as we are. We liked the other generations for the way it reminded us of our childhood. We buy the current G4 because we have kids that love it or because "hey it's ponies". I guess it bothers me that the line is lacking in variety. I'm used to lots of ponies. We didn't have 100 versions of Cotton Candy when I was kid. It also bothers me that somewhere someone in Hasbro HQ thinks that it's a good idea to have a gem encrusted light up pony for $50 because "it's a fan favorite". It's a statue, not a MLP toy IMO. What I would love and would make me happy as a collector? First off better QC - and second. Make ponies Hasbro. Lots of ponies. Who cares if they are in the show or not. Ponies are meant for playing, for brushing, for pretending. Give my daughter ponies so she can play ponies, not PP's army of clones,.
Quote from: gabumon on October 28, 2013, 12:12:36 AMyeah I wonder how the Takara relationship affects what TFs adult fans get.Judging by MiRaja's post, I'm going to assume that Takara is to Transformers as Funko is to MLP.To say the Funko line is not directed at adult fans would be silly. They are collector-quality, completely molded "show accurate" figures. A lot of G4-only fans complained about the lack of show accuracy in the main line of toys, complained about "HasbrOCs" (toy-only ponies), and out comes Funko with several quality figures based on fan favourite characters. It's definitely for adults, not kids, even if they are selling them at TRU now -- for a while you could only get them at Hot Topic and some Barnes & Noble stores, not exactly kid hangouts. And unfortunately it seems that Funko is more diverse than the Hasbro line these days, which isn't fair to kids or their parents.
Quote from: Ice Crystal on October 28, 2013, 02:40:31 AMQuote from: gabumon on October 28, 2013, 12:12:36 AMyeah I wonder how the Takara relationship affects what TFs adult fans get.Judging by MiRaja's post, I'm going to assume that Takara is to Transformers as Funko is to MLP.To say the Funko line is not directed at adult fans would be silly. They are collector-quality, completely molded "show accurate" figures. A lot of G4-only fans complained about the lack of show accuracy in the main line of toys, complained about "HasbrOCs" (toy-only ponies), and out comes Funko with several quality figures based on fan favourite characters. It's definitely for adults, not kids, even if they are selling them at TRU now -- for a while you could only get them at Hot Topic and some Barnes & Noble stores, not exactly kid hangouts. And unfortunately it seems that Funko is more diverse than the Hasbro line these days, which isn't fair to kids or their parents.That is not an accurate comparison. Takara is a Japanese toy company that's been around for years. They started producing transformable robot pre-transformers. Not just in Japan, but a lot of these toys were produced for the Italian market. The pride of my collection of TF ( which is really small, but whatever ) is one of these. He's literally the same toy that would become Jazz, but he's from several years earlier than when Transformers came in. It was then that Hasbro started licensing for the toys from Takara and other companies to produce a line. ( Note: Takara made up the majority of the figures. Other ones like Shockwave and Skyfire ( A Veritech toy, originally, from Macross!) came from other toy companies. ) They then produced the biggest commercial ever for a toy line, that being the original G1 Transformers cartoon. Transformers actually becomes super popular even in Japan, and continues to do so, which leads to several Japan-only tv releases, and lots of Japan-only toys. Takara makes boatloads. And they continue to make lots of toys for both kids and collectors, some of which Hasbro decides to pick up and others not. Like the Binaltech to Alternators, and then the Transformers Universe line was almost entirely all Takara remolds. I'm not sure of the exact number with Generations as I stepped out the fandom during that time, but I'm guessing those are likely Takara too. I was never into TF Animated, but I think they had a company in Japan make those, not Takara I think, but I could be wrong. Also, Takara should be a familiar name. Hasbro granted them rights to make their own My Little Pony line in Japan in the 80's.
I'm probably echoing everyone else here, but first of all - back when G1 came out, it was a girls toy. There wasn't any adult collectors/fanbase. However when G1 Transformers came out - there were adults that bought them and collected them (same with Star Wars). I think the problem is Hasbro really has no clue how to market MLP. G1 was short lived in the US when you think about other toy lines. G2 was even shorter. I think G3 started off on the right foot, but then they got into the whole Mane Core thing and decided Pinkie Pie was now the official MLP mascot and that went down hill.I was thrilled for the Anniversary ponies because they were anniversary, but I never ever saw the Rainbow Ponies in any store and only managed to find the full set of the collectors pose. I loved the art ponies and I was willing to buy them because they were different. I didn't think they were outrageously priced (compared to the "exclusives" for the G4)So then g4 came out and somewhere somehow it become all about these Bronies. How when why, I don't even pretend to understand. I'm not saying MLP is only a girls toy, but I have issues with teen/young men telling me how ponies are supposed to be. What toys are supposed to be, what merch I should see in stores, how tv characters personalities are supposed to be. I also have issues with the fact that I have a 3 year old daughter who loves the show and who loves the few ponies she has and how sad she gets when we find blind bags that are torn open ever time we are at Walmart and Target, how ponies are ripped out of boxes or the shelves are empty because certain people feel they can do that because the show is so popular and in their minds kids shouldn't have them.fact is fact - it's a *toy* line with a cartoon.Now, I'd say a good majority of us are "adult" collectors because we had g1 as a child and we loved those ponies and we love that we have people who are as obsessed with MLP as we are. We liked the other generations for the way it reminded us of our childhood. We buy the current G4 because we have kids that love it or because "hey it's ponies". I guess it bothers me that the line is lacking in variety. I'm used to lots of ponies. We didn't have 100 versions of Cotton Candy when I was kid. It also bothers me that somewhere someone in Hasbro HQ thinks that it's a good idea to have a gem encrusted light up pony for $50 because "it's a fan favorite". It's a statue, not a MLP toy IMO. What I would love and would make me happy as a collector? First off better QC - and second. Make ponies Hasbro. Lots of ponies. Who cares if they are in the show or not. Ponies are meant for playing, for brushing, for pretending. Give my daughter ponies so she can play ponies, not PP's army of clones,.
You know what we need? We need a token celebrity.If we had someone famous with a lot of money and publicity as a MLP collector, Hasbro would be more likely to take notice, and the MLP collecting group would be more likely to grow.
Quote from: Tirac on October 28, 2013, 07:45:16 AMYou know what we need? We need a token celebrity.If we had someone famous with a lot of money and publicity as a MLP collector, Hasbro would be more likely to take notice, and the MLP collecting group would be more likely to grow.Celebrities we know of who collect MLP:BeyoncéParis HiltonOkay, that is NOT improving matters... ;D
Celebrities we know of who collect MLP:BeyoncéParis HiltonOkay, that is NOT improving matters... ;D