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it just seems like a really strange and microscopic part of a bigger problem ... like the Titanic is sinking, but the maiter d is only concerned because he can't keep the glasses on the table kind of thing ... i'm not "shrugging it off" i just know there are much bigger fish to fry when it comes to this ... that's what i'm concerned with, that people are freaking out over a very microscopic part of a much bigger problem ... like treating a symptom instead of the disease ...
Quote from: Betelgeuse on November 26, 2012, 08:03:37 PMAs long as you and your kids don't chew on the ponies or hold them to your nose and sniff for long periods of time, you should be alright.Tonight's top story: Children's new high is huffing toy ponies.
As long as you and your kids don't chew on the ponies or hold them to your nose and sniff for long periods of time, you should be alright.
Someone used a titanic metaphor... I think of it more as, just because the whole ship’s sinking doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try to get the lifeboat going!
I think this is this kind of topic where people become a bit polarised and the discussion is reduced to a series of contradictory anecdotes, opinions and sometimes name-calling. It becomes almost impossible to form an informed opinion. In the end, if you are concerned about the effects of certain chemicals in your surroundings, you need to get the facts and make up your own mind about what steps you want to take.You can search the internet for original research papers (e.g. "Thyroid Disrupting Chemicals in Plastic Additives and Thyroid Health" in the Journal of Environmental Science and Health). These provide the most unbiased information you will find on the web. Although, sometimes you cannot access them unless you’re registered (but if anyone finds a paper they want to read, I may be able to get hold of it for you. ) Also, try to stick to official websites (e.g. http://www.ecetoc.org/index.php or http://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/sis/search ) where they link to official reports and original research. Another option is books - I have a toxicology textbook at home from when I studied it, I’m happy to look up certain chemicals too. You also have to remember that there is a limited number of tests each new chemical introduced to the market must undergo, and chemicals already existing before 1981 less so – and there’s 100 000 of them! This has improved (somewhat), in the EU at least, since the introduction of REACH, since which 14 substances have been banned and at least 73 have been identified as potentially hazardous (currently being investigated further). And around 3000 new chemicals are currently being registered under REACH (http://echa.europa.eu/reach-2013 ).A lot of these ‘green’ organisations’ concerns are regarding the very long term impacts of these chemicals, many of which have been introduced within our generation. It is impossible to say what long term effects each of these (thousands of) chemicals will have on us, we simply haven’t had enough time to find out!But those concerns are based on emerging evidence from more long term scientific studies. I appreciate that media like to hype, ‘hippies’ like to condemn all chemicals and ‘cynics’ like to scorn all concerns. This is why I say, find out for yourself and then do what you think is right. For example, if we know mercury has negative effects on a growing fetus (http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/toxprofiles/tp.asp?id=115&tid=24), we can avoid cosmetics containing mercury! Or depending on how much it concerns you, campaign for mercury-containing cosmetics to be banned (e.g. if it isn’t already) or try to reduce the amount of coal being used (mercury is one of the by-products released when coal is burned). So you can’t avoid all contact with toxins, but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t bother at all. Every bit helps. Someone used a titanic metaphor... I think of it more as, just because the whole ship’s sinking doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try to get the lifeboat going! Find out the facts, decide what matters to you and work on it.
Quote from: jwalraven on November 26, 2012, 10:13:45 PMQuote from: Betelgeuse on November 26, 2012, 08:03:37 PMAs long as you and your kids don't chew on the ponies or hold them to your nose and sniff for long periods of time, you should be alright.Tonight's top story: Children's new high is huffing toy ponies. You'd be surprised. xD Some kids just like smelling things just because. I bet someone out there actually does smell their ponies.
Quote from: Betelgeuse on November 27, 2012, 11:17:47 AMQuote from: jwalraven on November 26, 2012, 10:13:45 PMQuote from: Betelgeuse on November 26, 2012, 08:03:37 PMAs long as you and your kids don't chew on the ponies or hold them to your nose and sniff for long periods of time, you should be alright.Tonight's top story: Children's new high is huffing toy ponies. You'd be surprised. xD Some kids just like smelling things just because. I bet someone out there actually does smell their ponies.I like weird smells. Every time I use a permanent marker, I smell it when I open it and again right before I put the cap back on it. Sometimes I'll open them just to sniff them and then put them back. I can also often be found smelling a book that I'm actually supposed to be reading. I'l be reading and then BAM. My nose is in the crease so each nostril can vacuum up the scent of the pages. I'm sure there are people out there who loves the way MLP toys smell.
Reading this thread make me think of the Spongebob episode where he's afraid to leave his house because he might hurt his butt...Going along with that, we can't all live like Spongebob and live in fear!