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thanks everyone, and thanks Hathorcat. I was sure sunfading would be in suggestions but didn't really think about acetone. I've been a bit unsure about trying stain removal techniques, but I have a few ponies that could do with a try, and then I may try stuff on Gypsy.I've been stalking UK ebay lately and wishing I could pop over there just to buy UK ponies for less money and much less shipping