MLC gets their hanks directly from Tina if I'm not mistaken, so those should be in the same 15g-17g size that DH's hanks are now supposed to be. Let others confirm or debunk that though, I might not be remembering right. Not sure about Retrodoll - looks like Shannon lists some lengths and 36", some at 52", but I don't know about weight, I don't think I saw it listed.