Varnish questions.

[bagheera86]

Hi,

as you might (or might not) remember I made some q's about  dolly hair last year and the fact i didn't receive things yada yada first custom. I'm STILL on that custom. And now I'm just sealing things up before I root and stick on the hair, but, the satin varnish i'm using hasn't dried completely. It's still quite tacky to the touch and it's been 24 hours and  during that 24 hours it's been quite the warm day.

the varnish I am is is Arteliers satin varnish

http://www.artmaterials.com.au/?cPath=49_54_73_579&osCsid=e5f18e11fe188b806b91bc11be0c5982

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has anybody used this before? how long does it take to cure? or maybe my coating was too thick?

[purplekittywuman]

Hi there! I don't make custom ponies, but I have used varnish before.
When you say quite the warm day, was it maybe a little too warm? I find that I need to leave things to dry in a cool dry place. The fridge is too cold, but somewhere where the air isn't humid and the temperature is moderate. Direct sunlight isn't always the best as it may make the varnish melt a little, but the late afternoon isn't so bad.
I hope this helps!

[bagheera86]

Hi there! I don't make custom ponies, but I have used varnish before.
When you say quite the warm day, was it maybe a little too warm? I find that I need to leave things to dry in a cool dry place. The fridge is too cold, but somewhere where the air isn't humid and the temperature is moderate. Direct sunlight isn't always the best as it may make the varnish melt a little, but the late afternoon isn't so bad.
I hope this helps!

I've kept it in the bathroom where I thought it was cooler while no one was in there of course, but it was still a stinker of a day. I've learned not to dry things in the sun after I left a nice dress on the line and the sun faded it to nothing ;--; Maybe it was too hot in teh bathroom, i'll put it back there for the night.

[ZettaMomo]

Did you water down your glaze before painting it on? (At least it looks like it is paint on glaze to me) I personally have never had experience with this brand of glaze, but I have been advised in the past to water down paint on glazes.

[bagheera86]

Did you water down your glaze before painting it on? (At least it looks like it is paint on glaze to me) I personally have never had experience with this brand of glaze, but I have been advised in the past to water down paint on glazes.

no I didn't the instruction says not to D: it's not wet still, it's just tacky/slightly sticky to the touch.

[Maniah]

I had a varnish that did that.. It's been 5 years and the pony is still slightly tacky.. You might need to go over it with something else if it's still like that after a while.

[pop-girl]

Some varnishes/sealers just do not react well to pony vinyl. It's always best to test new products on an old bait before applying it to a custom you've worked hard on.

I know a lot of customizers use watered down matte Mod Podge as a sealer. A few people have had good experiences using it to fix tacky or sticky ponies. I don't know what country you're in so I'm not sure how readily available it is but I would give it a try.

[Griffin]

Then again, Mod Podge can turn sticky, too. Most people have no problems with it and I've never used it myself so I cannot say for sure, but I have some ponies that I think were sealed with it and that are a bit sticky to touch. Personally, I recommend polyurethane varnishes (I use Folk Art). I've never heard anyone having a polyurethane sealant remain sticky.

[bagheera86]

Some varnishes/sealers just do not react well to pony vinyl. It's always best to test new products on an old bait before applying it to a custom you've worked hard on.

I know a lot of customizers use watered down matte Mod Podge as a sealer. A few people have had good experiences using it to fix tacky or sticky ponies. I don't know what country you're in so I'm not sure how readily available it is but I would give it a try.

Hmm, I've thought of mod podge, went to buy it, it was $22 a bottle and I promptly walked out of the store xD

Post Merge: February 17, 2012, 04:41:15 PM

I had a varnish that did that.. It's been 5 years and the pony is still slightly tacky.. You might need to go over it with something else if it's still like that after a while.

Well I heard spray varnishes are quite good, I used a matte one to seal my progress but... There's no satin. And I like a wee bit of shine to mah ponies, so maybe I should go back to a dull and boring matte if what you say is true ;--; I already have problems with random bits of fluff sticking to it.

Post Merge: February 17, 2012, 04:43:40 PM

Then again, Mod Podge can turn sticky, too. Most people have no problems with it and I've never used it myself so I cannot say for sure, but I have some ponies that I think were sealed with it and that are a bit sticky to touch. Personally, I recommend polyurethane varnishes (I use Folk Art). I've never heard anyone having a polyurethane sealant remain sticky.

ARGH, THEY HAD THAT. but it was $8 more and I didn't want to wait til my pay came in. this is what happens when I go cheap, well, the art store barely had anything I needed so I was also thrilled to see they had at least two things to choose from. Guess I'll toughen up and go to a real art store, the art store I go to seems to specialise in crappy crafts directed towards children and parents so they can spend quality time with each other. They couldn't answer any of my questions about anything either.

[ZennaBug]

$22 for mod podge?!?  I bought mine at walmart and it was only like $7, maybe less.  And I've been using the same bottle for a couple of years.  Maybe putting some sealer over the top of what you already have will help.

[bagheera86]

$22 for mod podge?!?  I bought mine at walmart and it was only like $7, maybe less.  And I've been using the same bottle for a couple of years.  Maybe putting some sealer over the top of what you already have will help.

$22 for mod podge?!?  I bought mine at walmart and it was only like $7, maybe less.  And I've been using the same bottle for a couple of years.  Maybe putting some sealer over the top of what you already have will help.

I live in Australia and it's imported and only the expensive/rip off art stores tend to carry it.

[Maniah]

I wonder if having someone mail you some would be cheaper if they used cheap shipping? Or maybe a website caters to Australia and will have good prices?

[bagheera86]

I wonder if having someone mail you some would be cheaper if they used cheap shipping? Or maybe a website caters to Australia and will have good prices?

I'm looking at ebay currentl, seems to be half the price but only 8 ounces... which is about 250ml? $12-15 by the looks of it. about the same price I paid for the current lot I have.

[Maniah]

Heck. I'd mail you some if you like at no special charge. Just the cost of shipping and what it cost to buy it. You can check USPS.com for a shipping estimate if you like. It would be coming from north little rock, Ar. 72116

[bagheera86]

Heck. I'd mail you some if you like at no special charge. Just the cost of shipping and what it cost to buy it. You can check USPS.com for a shipping estimate if you like. It would be coming from north little rock, Ar. 72116

Heck. I'd mail you some if you like at no special charge. Just the cost of shipping and what it cost to buy it. You can check USPS.com for a shipping estimate if you like. It would be coming from north little rock, Ar. 72116

I assume shipping to Australia would be murder though D: I'm going to try one more coat of varnish and see what happens, It says not to dilute with water and my brush might have been wet last time...

Post Merge: February 20, 2012, 06:33:33 AM

Heck. I'd mail you some if you like at no special charge. Just the cost of shipping and what it cost to buy it. You can check USPS.com for a shipping estimate if you like. It would be coming from north little rock, Ar. 72116

Hmm, I just looked and it'd be about $12 for 16 ounces to ship to oz from anywhere in the us.

Post Merge: February 20, 2012, 06:05:26 PM

  AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA, HAHAHAHAHAHA..HAHAHAHHA, HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH OH THE GODS ABOVE HAVE MERCY.

I JUST called the company that made the Varnish to ask them some questions and it went something like this.

Lady: So are you a hobby or professional artist
me:....Hobby?
Lady: ...Oh I seeeee, well, what did you use the varnish on?
Me: Acrylic paint?
 Lady: then what's the problem?
 me: well after a few days of being left alone it STILL hasn't cured.
 lady: well that's because of all the humidity around not letting it dry, because of all the moister in the air, I recommend taking a hair dryer to it and gently heating it to dry it out. But normally it takes 24 hours to cure
 me: ......Okay. That sounds easy.
 
 and then we end the conversation and I just realised I'd been treated a bit like an idiot. Really? The weather? I painted the varnish on a hot and dry day. It should dry according to her theory, not to mention a good varnish dries regardless since i'm PAINTING IT INSIDE THE HOUSE. Though I must admit i'm tempted to take a hair dryer to the pony.But I did lie about what I was painting on. I didn't think I could convey to her that I was painting a plastic pony without sending her into a fit of laugh or to the field of confusion.