german or... is he spanish?

[Shorelines]

I think i have a german wig wam, but im not sure... what dose it say under their feet?
his hat is another color than the regular.

here is a pic

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[zora]

i think spain boys are marked spain under their feet. german ones have no pat pend although no pat pend not always indicates a german pony. the hat looks faded to me

[Shorelines]

i think spain boys are marked spain under their feet. german ones have no pat pend although no pat pend not always indicates a german pony. the hat looks faded to me

i think spain boys are marked spain under their feet. german ones have no pat pend although no pat pend not always indicates a german pony. the hat looks faded to me

i think spain boys are marked spain under their feet. german ones have no pat pend although no pat pend not always indicates a german pony. the hat looks faded to me

allrighty he has no pat under his feet.
im 99.9 % sure that the hat is not faded, it had the same color inside and outside, in small corners and and no change in color at all

[zora]

i have a wigwam too and his hat has the same color as yours, i always thought its faded

[pinkkittywinks]

there was no spanish wig wam only steamer, trucker and tex were made in spain along side the family daddy ponies

the lack of a pat pand stamp does indicate he was a "german" release pony

love pkw xxx

[Shorelines]

there was no spanish wig wam only steamer, trucker and tex were made in spain along side the family daddy ponies

the lack of a pat pand stamp does indicate he was a "german" release pony

love pkw xxx

thanks
is there any other german bbs?

[zora]

as pkkw said, the non pat pend big bros were considered as "germans" but this is not invariably the case as i learned last week from hathorcat:

and i think all boys were released without pat pend.

Oh the Pad Pend discussion!!! During the cross over years after Hasbro obtained their patent [1987] and when they were trying to ensure Pat Pend stamping was removed from the line, some of the same ponies find themselves released both with Pat Pend and no Pat Pend stamps. The main reason for this is the difference in time from when Ponies were released in the US and then released in Europe. For example the Big Big Brother ponies, in the US, have their Pat Pend stamps on their hooves; but this set when it reached some of Europe was launched a significant period after the US release - therefore this same set came without their Pat Pend stamps.

Ponies made during the time the patent was granted are often seen in both versions, and as Europe were slightly later in getting releases then the US, Europe often got the versions without the Pat Pend, as they where made later. The fact so many Ponies without Pat Pend are found in Europe seems to have lead to the misassumption that they are therefore an indication of being a European releases - yes its true that for the ponies which had both Pat Pend and no Pad Pend, any non Pat Pend versions are most likely Euro releases but its not really accurate to say a lack of Pat Pend is an indication of course. Europe really only saw non Pat Pend versions of the US ponies because Europe received the lines later and therefore got sets which had been manufactured after the patent approval and after the Pat Pend stamp could be removed. This different in time between manufacturer means there are batch differences and you get the occasional minor shade/shape difference.

As PKW says the lack of a Pat Pend stamp does not mean Euro release its all to do with timing of manufacture and release - just look at the hooves of any of the later release US ponies [such as Punzie] and you ll see no Pad Pend stamp and look under the hooves of any of the early Euro exclusives, such as Gypsy, and you ll see they have a Pat Pend stamp.

[pinkkittywinks]

like zora i too think that all the boys were made with both pat pend and non pat pend variants.

the place to ask is the corral since there is more knowledge on the regular releases there

love pkw xxx

[Roogna]

I have not seen non-pat pend of all boys...I have all of them except Quarterback, Slugger, 4-Speed,

I have seem minor differences in body colors, eye colors, width of stance, and other tiny tiny things

[hathorcat]

As I mentioned in my post the lack of pat pend was a timing thing so when the first set of BB [or Adventure Boys] were released in Euro the patent was still pending therefore ponies still had the stamp. However, when the second set of BB hit the shelves here the pat pend was no longer applicable to our second wave of BBs had the stamp removed - this set included the 3 new boys - WigWam, Chief and Barnacle - and the 3 repeats from the first set - Steamer, Salty and Tex. Hence why only 6 turn up without the pad pend stamp.

Oh and Wigwam and Tex did indeed sometimes come with alternate hats in Germany - minor but noticeable colour differences. The most glaring hat colour differences are with the Spanish boys!

I have been trying to track down that german WigWam headdress for ages - congrats Shorelines

[zora]

@hathorcat - i always thought its faded

i believe that quarterback, 4 speed and slugger were not released in germany or austria. i have never seen them here and the german my little pony site also says that they were not released here.

[hathorcat]

@hathorcat - i always thought its faded

i believe that quarterback, 4 speed and slugger were not released in germany or austria. i have never seen them here and the german my little pony site also says that they were not released here.

Sorry my bad! I should have been more specific - by first and second sets I was speaking in general Euro terms I should have said the Adventure Boys set and then the (second US) Big Brother set which. And yes only the UK got the Adventure Boys The comparable brochures for these 2 years between UK and German lines is interesting in what set replaced which one - i.e we got the Magic Message and Adventure Boys and you got the Regenbogen and unique Babys - all of them appearing on the same "style" of backcard.

[pinkkittywinks]

thank you for posting guys i was wondering if it was quaterback and slugger that missed out on a non pat ped release. i didn't know about trucker though

love pkw xxx

[Daisuki]

I have 3 Wigwams, too and there's one Wigwam who looks different, like yours Shorelines.
His bandana looks a bit different, too =) I got him with all accessoires from a fleamarket.