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Title: What Popular Traits Do You Dislike That Others Like?
Post by: TheClassCalico on July 13, 2023, 03:36:28 AM

In terms of ponies, that is. We all have different tastes and of course sometimes, we may not like what the majority of the community likes. So, is there anything that you dislike on ponies that the majority of the community seems to like?

For me, it's A. any of the G1 Sparkle Ponies or Sparkle Pony adjacent ponies (i.e. Divine Shines, G2 Queen Sun Sparkle, etc.) I just don't like how they look and the plasticiser leakage problem certainly does not help their case.

B. Tinsel in manes. I think that it just looks tacky and gives the mane an unpleasant texture. Not to mention, brushing it becomes harder, lest some tinsel is lost.

Perhaps at a later point, I will make a reverse of this thread, it's just that this idea ended up popping into my head first.

Title: Re: What Popular Traits Do You Dislike That Others Like?
Post by: BlackCurtains on July 13, 2023, 03:58:09 AM

I agree on the tinsel. Especially the princess ponies in G1. Just a forelock of tinsel... no, thanks.

Baby ponies maybe? G2 are the exception because they are adorable, but most baby ponies don't do anything for me. I have some from my childhood collection, but other than Dutch Cat there aren't any I'd like to have.

Seaponies too. I get the idea and the song is an ear worm for sure, but as ponies they're too plain and even with their shells, I'm not impressed. The floats are a little better, there's one that's an alligator and I love it, but overall Seaponies just aren't my thing.

Title: Re: What Popular Traits Do You Dislike That Others Like?
Post by: TheClassCalico on July 13, 2023, 10:20:11 AM

Actually, I suppose that I don't particularly care about G2 G1, typo! baby ponies myself.  I wouldn't say that I dislike them necessarily, but I will 9 times out of 10 take an adult over a baby, even if they had the exact same design besides their mould.

Title: Re: What Popular Traits Do You Dislike That Others Like?
Post by: TarkanDragon on July 13, 2023, 10:42:29 AM

I have a trait I dislike the most. [Spoilered for your own risk just for safety reasons.]

Spoiler

Mine would be IDW.

Honestly I really don't know why IDW just simply ruins the characters and the story. The problematic part is that most fans consider IDW to be CANON even when it really doesn't.

Spike is one of the characters that IDW actually ruined. I couldn't felt more sick of how they did Spike. I mean when I look back in G1 comics, they're pretty standard yet kept in their character traits and really came up with better stories. But what IDW just does is this: leT's do A RaNdoM ArC That EvEryoNe Go HyPe By HaViNg DiSCorD tO DeAl WiTh A cRazY Ex tHat wAs NevEr In tHe ShOw AnD MeSs WiTh tHe ChaRaCters.

That's not how supposed comics work IDW. Even nowadays You're slacking off that would later on your compony would shamble from your corruption.

I mean the arcs that they do weren't good to me. They're just like, what the heck were they thinking? Are they really desperate for attention with their audience?

I'm sorry if this is a massive vent. Because I know that IDW was not my personal flavor taste and I wouldn't even try to bother looking at the artstyle they gave for MLP:FIM.

But that's not all as when they did the MLP:Generations thing, Did they even bother to know the original G1 characters? Or even what G1 supposed to be.

It could've been an actual past or the year 1980.
But NO! IDW has to make it into some sort of dimension. HOW DOES THIS MAKES SENSE?! I know Equestria girls were a thing and I happen to dislike it. But is IDW really trying to lean on Equestria girls than the actual ponies? I really don't want to like have myself to look at the comics because I couldn't handle the wrongness of IDW trying to ruin the franchise like that.

Especially G5 that had Discord when he never appears in the show.
And they also starting to ruin Sparky as well. but I'm a bit thankful that G1 Spike didn't even came to the IDW Generations comics because I don't want my idol to be ruined by it.

*phew*

That was a long rant and yet my opinion of a popular trait that I actually dislike and yet others like.

I just wish Archie comics would still kept their business since Archie was the comics that I actually enjoy with Sonic ones.
And I just wish IDW would just look back at their stuff that they did with MLP.

I'm sorry if this actually something that no one agrees but this is my opinion. And also offends any IDW fans about this.

If anyone would ask me to take this post down. Or want me to remove the rant I have said. Let me know. And I apologie for this message. I just want to get this off of my chest. Any feedback is appreciated although I'm really uncomfortable talking about IDW and it's popular corrupting traits.

also TheClassCalico if you read this I don't know if this is alright even though that what I said was actually a bit "toxic" rant but I honestly really felt unconfortable talking about what I dislike.

Title: Re: What Popular Traits Do You Dislike That Others Like?
Post by: Mewtwofan1 on July 13, 2023, 11:59:40 AM

Yeah, I'm not entirely sold on the hair tinsel either. I get why hasbro does it (little girls love sparkly hair, right? Who cares if its hard to brush on our toys specially advertised for their brushable manes and tails?) but it just doesn't work for me. Especially the ponies who have more tinsel than hair. If I wanted to brush tinsel, I'd bust out the christmas decor and comb that instead!  :silly:

A trait/gimmick I dislike are ponies with glitter designs all over their bodies. If the glitter is in the plastic or glued onto one specific area (like the forehead or cutie mark), its fine. But I don't like the texture when its glued onto all of the pony, just feels weird to pick up a pony and feel the grit. I also have sweaty hands, and I remember as a kid touching toys like that then pulling away and my hands being covered in it. I feel like I have to be extra careful around ponies like that because I don't want to damage them by touching the glitter. I love milky way, she's one of my favorites! But I feel like I have to pick her up by the legs/horn/other non-glitter parts because I don't want to touch her body or her cheeks.

Title: Re: What Popular Traits Do You Dislike That Others Like?
Post by: Gator on July 13, 2023, 06:52:07 PM

I'm not a fan of sweetheart sister pose ponies.  For me they don't fit in with the rest of the ponies.  Them and the teeny babies. 

Title: Re: What Popular Traits Do You Dislike That Others Like?
Post by: LadyMoondancer on July 13, 2023, 07:25:02 PM

This is just my personal opinion, but . . . ponies look better with shorter manes.  Like the length of G1 Glory or Blossom's mane.  I think I'd like even the not-so-horsey gens more, like G4, if they had more modest hair + forelocks. (Just to be really pedantic, I do not consider bangs (like G3.5 Cheerilee) to be the same as a forelock.  Has to be a thin bit of hair going straight down the nose.)

I had Brush 'n Grow Bouquet as a kid and her mane made her not-fun for hairplay, ironically. It got in the way.  It was too thick for my clumsy little-kid hands to style. And when I tried to brush and comb her, the bristles / teeth broke off.

Title: Re: What Popular Traits Do You Dislike That Others Like?
Post by: Queen Sophie on July 13, 2023, 07:45:07 PM

The Petite Ponies, they are too simple for me, found out they only had one cutie mark on their side, and they just don’t seem that interesting

Title: Re: What Popular Traits Do You Dislike That Others Like?
Post by: Ponybookworm on July 14, 2023, 11:15:41 AM

For me it's Blind Bags
Sure, it's nice to have little miniature versions of Ponies as toys for the Ponies or some dolls to play with, but to me they've never been the main part of a collection. The main part is always the normal-sized brushable Ponies, with their flowing hair you can groom for hours, who can fit into Pony clothes you can buy or make, who can interact & blend with other Ponies, who have playsets & accessories to share with other Ponies... I could go on but you get it.

Title: Re: What Popular Traits Do You Dislike That Others Like?
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 14, 2023, 01:50:03 PM

Blind bags. So many nice designs relegated to some overpriced bitty thing that'll get lost in like, 5 minutes.

Title: Re: What Popular Traits Do You Dislike That Others Like?
Post by: brightberry on July 14, 2023, 02:34:37 PM

Umm... Curly hair.  It looks pretty but so, so hard to keep from getting frizzy.

Edit:

I also love it on real people and animals. I have curls myself.  It's plastic pony hair that gets stretched out and permanently bent that annoys me.  Those ponies, you really can't touch their hair.

Title: Re: What Popular Traits Do You Dislike That Others Like?
Post by: TheClassCalico on July 15, 2023, 10:37:48 AM

Quote from: LadyMoondancer on July 13, 2023, 07:25:02 PM

This is just my personal opinion, but . . . ponies look better with shorter manes.  Like the length of G1 Glory or Blossom's mane.  I think I'd like even the not-so-horsey gens more, like G4, if they had more modest hair + forelocks. (Just to be really pedantic, I do not consider bangs (like G3.5 Cheerilee) to be the same as a forelock.  Has to be a thin bit of hair going straight down the nose.)

I had Brush 'n Grow Bouquet as a kid and her mane made her not-fun for hairplay, ironically. It got in the way.  It was too thick for my clumsy little-kid hands to style. And when I tried to brush and comb her, the bristles / teeth broke off.

I agree that short manes usually look better and are certainly easier to manage.

Quote from: TarkanDragon on July 13, 2023, 10:42:29 AM

I have a trait I dislike the most. [Spoilered for your own risk just for safety reasons.]

Spoiler

Mine would be IDW.

Honestly I really don't know why IDW just simply ruins the characters and the story. The problematic part is that most fans consider IDW to be CANON even when it really doesn't.

Spike is one of the characters that IDW actually ruined. I couldn't felt more sick of how they did Spike. I mean when I look back in G1 comics, they're pretty standard yet kept in their character traits and really came up with better stories. But what IDW just does is this: leT's do A RaNdoM ArC That EvEryoNe Go HyPe By HaViNg DiSCorD tO DeAl WiTh A cRazY Ex tHat wAs NevEr In tHe ShOw AnD MeSs WiTh tHe ChaRaCters.

That's not how supposed comics work IDW. Even nowadays You're slacking off that would later on your compony would shamble from your corruption.

I mean the arcs that they do weren't good to me. They're just like, what the heck were they thinking? Are they really desperate for attention with their audience?

I'm sorry if this is a massive vent. Because I know that IDW was not my personal flavor taste and I wouldn't even try to bother looking at the artstyle they gave for MLP:FIM.

But that's not all as when they did the MLP:Generations thing, Did they even bother to know the original G1 characters? Or even what G1 supposed to be.

It could've been an actual past or the year 1980.
But NO! IDW has to make it into some sort of dimension. HOW DOES THIS MAKES SENSE?! I know Equestria girls were a thing and I happen to dislike it. But is IDW really trying to lean on Equestria girls than the actual ponies? I really don't want to like have myself to look at the comics because I couldn't handle the wrongness of IDW trying to ruin the franchise like that.

Especially G5 that had Discord when he never appears in the show.
And they also starting to ruin Sparky as well. but I'm a bit thankful that G1 Spike didn't even came to the IDW Generations comics because I don't want my idol to be ruined by it.

*phew*

That was a long rant and yet my opinion of a popular trait that I actually dislike and yet others like.

I just wish Archie comics would still kept their business since Archie was the comics that I actually enjoy with Sonic ones.
And I just wish IDW would just look back at their stuff that they did with MLP.

I'm sorry if this actually something that no one agrees but this is my opinion. And also offends any IDW fans about this.

If anyone would ask me to take this post down. Or want me to remove the rant I have said. Let me know. And I apologie for this message. I just want to get this off of my chest. Any feedback is appreciated although I'm really uncomfortable talking about IDW and it's popular corrupting traits.

also TheClassCalico if you read this I don't know if this is alright even though that what I said was actually a bit "toxic" rant but I honestly really felt unconfortable talking about what I dislike.

No worries! For future reference, this thread was intended to be about the toylines rather than pieces of media surrounding the franchise, though. It's my bad for not clarifying that. Personally, I disagree, I thought that the comics did an amazing job but that isn't to say that I always liked them or that I thought everything was handled well.

Title: Re: What Popular Traits Do You Dislike That Others Like?
Post by: Beth3346 on July 15, 2023, 02:37:07 PM

i'm not sure if it's a popular trait but i don't like flocking on ponies all that much. i prefer the brighter colors. it's also so hard to find ponies with nice flocking. they are very old at this point though so it's not surprising.

i kind of like the tinsel assuming it's not too crinkled. :)

Title: Re: What Popular Traits Do You Dislike That Others Like?
Post by: TarkanDragon on July 15, 2023, 03:01:45 PM

Quote from: TheClassCalico on July 15, 2023, 10:37:48 AM

Quote from: LadyMoondancer on July 13, 2023, 07:25:02 PM

This is just my personal opinion, but . . . ponies look better with shorter manes.  Like the length of G1 Glory or Blossom's mane.  I think I'd like even the not-so-horsey gens more, like G4, if they had more modest hair + forelocks. (Just to be really pedantic, I do not consider bangs (like G3.5 Cheerilee) to be the same as a forelock.  Has to be a thin bit of hair going straight down the nose.)

I had Brush 'n Grow Bouquet as a kid and her mane made her not-fun for hairplay, ironically. It got in the way.  It was too thick for my clumsy little-kid hands to style. And when I tried to brush and comb her, the bristles / teeth broke off.

I agree that short manes usually look better and are certainly easier to manage.

Quote from: TarkanDragon on July 13, 2023, 10:42:29 AM

I have a trait I dislike the most. [Spoilered for your own risk just for safety reasons.]

Spoiler

Mine would be IDW.

Honestly I really don't know why IDW just simply ruins the characters and the story. The problematic part is that most fans consider IDW to be CANON even when it really doesn't.

Spike is one of the characters that IDW actually ruined. I couldn't felt more sick of how they did Spike. I mean when I look back in G1 comics, they're pretty standard yet kept in their character traits and really came up with better stories. But what IDW just does is this: leT's do A RaNdoM ArC That EvEryoNe Go HyPe By HaViNg DiSCorD tO DeAl WiTh A cRazY Ex tHat wAs NevEr In tHe ShOw AnD MeSs WiTh tHe ChaRaCters.

That's not how supposed comics work IDW. Even nowadays You're slacking off that would later on your compony would shamble from your corruption.

I mean the arcs that they do weren't good to me. They're just like, what the heck were they thinking? Are they really desperate for attention with their audience?

I'm sorry if this is a massive vent. Because I know that IDW was not my personal flavor taste and I wouldn't even try to bother looking at the artstyle they gave for MLP:FIM.

But that's not all as when they did the MLP:Generations thing, Did they even bother to know the original G1 characters? Or even what G1 supposed to be.

It could've been an actual past or the year 1980.
But NO! IDW has to make it into some sort of dimension. HOW DOES THIS MAKES SENSE?! I know Equestria girls were a thing and I happen to dislike it. But is IDW really trying to lean on Equestria girls than the actual ponies? I really don't want to like have myself to look at the comics because I couldn't handle the wrongness of IDW trying to ruin the franchise like that.

Especially G5 that had Discord when he never appears in the show.
And they also starting to ruin Sparky as well. but I'm a bit thankful that G1 Spike didn't even came to the IDW Generations comics because I don't want my idol to be ruined by it.

*phew*

That was a long rant and yet my opinion of a popular trait that I actually dislike and yet others like.

I just wish Archie comics would still kept their business since Archie was the comics that I actually enjoy with Sonic ones.
And I just wish IDW would just look back at their stuff that they did with MLP.

I'm sorry if this actually something that no one agrees but this is my opinion. And also offends any IDW fans about this.

If anyone would ask me to take this post down. Or want me to remove the rant I have said. Let me know. And I apologie for this message. I just want to get this off of my chest. Any feedback is appreciated although I'm really uncomfortable talking about IDW and it's popular corrupting traits.

also TheClassCalico if you read this I don't know if this is alright even though that what I said was actually a bit "toxic" rant but I honestly really felt unconfortable talking about what I dislike.

No worries! For future reference, this thread was intended to be about the toylines rather than pieces of media surrounding the franchise, though. It's my bad for not clarifying that. Personally, I disagree, I thought that the comics did an amazing job but that isn't to say that I always liked them or that I thought everything was handled well.

Well it's your opinion and I understand as well.

Although I would say not that all everyone was into IDW. Most of them loved it and Most of them hate it. In fact I have met a friend of two who had the same opinions as mine. I wouldn't tell who exactly but... My opinion still stands of my taste of IDW. Maybe yours is a bit different. To me I don't think it was handled very well.
Even when I didn't expect your opinion to be towards with the like side of IDW. But I'm not gonna complain about that and let you do you without force. (and I hope you don't complain about it either and then make me try to read IDW, because, like I said: not my cup of tea or my taste of comics)

But in all honesty; Sometimes it's blind to know who actually likes IDW and who isn't. And I happen to be in the side of the dislike part.

Hopefully after the point I happen to make does respond your disagree as I understand that you may happen to like IDW while I don't but I'm not gonna start a fire over that.

Anyways, as for the toy line part since you now clarified. There's nothing else that made me dislike the traits other than the MLP G4 movie stuff. It really feels like well... *bad* flashbacks with the G4 movie.

But yeah that's the only thing I dislike that the movie just got it's toy treatment and it still make me unsure about it.

Hopefully this answers the question as well.

I've made my part and hopefully you understand as well. Sorry if I had to like respond in a way you'd never expected and you also clearified that this is about toys an yeah I understand.

Thank you and take care.

Title: Re: What Popular Traits Do You Dislike That Others Like?
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 16, 2023, 06:17:01 PM

"Chibifying" everything. Just stop already. It looks awful on animal toys.

Title: Re: What Popular Traits Do You Dislike That Others Like?
Post by: Taffeta on July 17, 2023, 09:29:36 AM

Scented ponies, just generally. The perfume puff ponies are an exception. I like them. They smell nice. The others...could be deployed as lethal weapons. O.o.

I love the brush and grows - I always loved the hair to play with. Tinsel can go bad but I still like it. Factory curl is beautiful. I'm really quite easy to please on a lot of general features. BUT scented ponies are a thing of mine, and the sundae best? No. Just no.

If they weren't so interesting re their production, I'd probably have written them off.

Oh yes! I don't like the collector ponies/FF ponies. I am quite bored with the obsession of trotting them out all the time for anniversaries. They have no anniversary significance here, and weren't even really promoted as being from one set in the UK. I never really understand the flap about them. Is that a popular trait? I'm not sure, but I don't like it.

Title: Re: What Popular Traits Do You Dislike That Others Like?
Post by: Raindrop on July 17, 2023, 03:01:56 PM

I really don't like the figures with molded hair.  For me, a big part of the appeal and play value of MLP is the brushable hair!  I get that some toys have stylized hairstyles that just don't work with nylon hair, but it's just not to my taste.

Title: Re: What Popular Traits Do You Dislike That Others Like?
Post by: CherryTreats on July 17, 2023, 07:14:05 PM

I can't really think of any besides some of what has already been mentioned: blind bags, ponies with molded on hair, scented ponies (I love the ponies themselves, but the scents are often way too much for me and I think it can lead to discoloration of the ponies), sparkle ponies (I don't like the plasticiser leaking either, yuck!). I generally prefer ponies without tinsel and glitter also, though I can think it's nice on certain ponies, like the princess ponies. I'd rather not have it on most ponies though, just on a tiny few.

Title: Re: What Popular Traits Do You Dislike That Others Like?
Post by: Carrehz on July 18, 2023, 06:33:43 AM

Sparkle ponies/translucent ponies (some of the translucent G4 blind bags looked okay, but in general I'm not a fan), pearlized ponies, glitter, scents, and I don't generally care about ~*show accuracy*~. I remember when the Funko vinyl ponies were still being made and you had people obsessing over how "show accurate!!!11" they were, and it's like... yeah, but they're all in the exact same, dead-eyed pose and that's kind of boring? ehhhh.

(not that I dislike the Funko vinyls - they're cute - I'd probably have more if they'd been released over here. but you get what I mean :P)

Title: Re: What Popular Traits Do You Dislike That Others Like?
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on July 18, 2023, 11:23:01 AM

Translucent ponies for me. I think the Glow n Shows look really cool but the way that the glitter is embedded into some of the others (as well as HQG1C) does not click with me.

Title: Re: What Popular Traits Do You Dislike That Others Like?
Post by: Mrs. Prospector on July 22, 2023, 09:24:18 PM

I don't like the G3 babies. I think their proportions are weird, with their bell-bottom looking legs. Their eyes also look bug or alien like to me. And the ones in the closed mouth pose just look kind of smug.

I also don't like articulated ponies. While it's fun to have options for posing, the seams of the joints ruin their appearance for me.

Title: Re: What Popular Traits Do You Dislike That Others Like?
Post by: Cin77 on July 22, 2023, 10:21:39 PM

I was just looking at some princess ponies for sale on a local auction site and came here to ask if it really is just the forelock on the princess ponies because it looks terrible.  I'd still own them haha I wouldn't let that stop me but its doesn't look great at all.  I have a princess primrose and the tinsel in her mane seems to be scattered but the shelf is too high for me to get to to have a closer look >.< First world problems am I right?

I agree with the moulded hair comment too.  The only moulded hair pony I have is Optimus Pony and it just seems appropriate for that one.

Title: Re: What Popular Traits Do You Dislike That Others Like?
Post by: Ponybookworm on July 23, 2023, 01:11:08 AM

I'm also very anti-moulded hair. I do have a few GOHs because I wanted a pirate ship, I wanted a normal-sized Daring Do, I wanted a changeling & more Boys (& Cheese Sandwich only comes in GOH), & I found some in a shop offline.
My only crossover, apart from the TS (I still want the Twilight), is Peggy Mane as she represent Lite-Brite & so has this clear hair like the pegs. I doubt fibre-optic fronds can be made thin enough & still have the right effect so with her it goes. I'd love the Twister Pony & the D&D Ponies to have been brushables, but there we go

Title: Re: What Popular Traits Do You Dislike That Others Like?
Post by: Queen Sophie on July 23, 2023, 04:26:39 PM

Another trait I don’t like is this type of art style that’s been used a lot more

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Title: Re: What Popular Traits Do You Dislike That Others Like?
Post by: SunbeamV on July 29, 2023, 05:39:43 PM

molded manes/tails lol

i'd say blind bags but it's not even just those anymore :/ the whole point of the line was brushable hair & i can understand some minis here and there, especially as a budget option since i realize just solid plastic cuts down on overall cost. but i'm sick of it totally taking over the line

Title: Re: What Popular Traits Do You Dislike That Others Like?
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 30, 2023, 06:58:30 AM

I don't care for curly hair. It looks pretty but is a pain to maintain.

G2 Babies. There are some very cute designs, but their faces are too fat, unfinished, and droopy.

Collector Ponies-That pose is awful.

Title: Re: What Popular Traits Do You Dislike That Others Like?
Post by: BlackCurtains on July 30, 2023, 07:20:43 AM

Speaking of poses... I hate the Quackers pose. It's the worst.

I wish Moondancer and Sunbeam were in different poses. That pose is so... I don't know.... doughy?

Title: Re: What Popular Traits Do You Dislike That Others Like?
Post by: TheClassCalico on July 30, 2023, 08:36:35 AM

Are moulded manes popular? At least when it comes to brushables/brushable style figures, I don't reallly see much love for those. I suppose that they're quite popular outside of the brushable style, such as Funko Vinyls or the Mighty Jaxx figures. Perhaps those figures are being referred to or I've been missing some moulded mane love.

I also haven't personally seen much Pony Life or Tell Your Tale art style love. I've actually seen a lot of criticism of them both myself.

Anyway, I'm not a fan, either. I'm not really a big fan of chibi art styles.


I don't like the Quackers pose, either. It looks awkward.

Title: Re: What Popular Traits Do You Dislike That Others Like?
Post by: NovelNerd on July 30, 2023, 09:20:06 AM

For me a lot of it is the pose of some ponies. I grew up on a horse and cattle farm and some poses drive me nuts. Like Rapunzels pose, it’s my least favorite one. I do realize I shouldn’t judge plastic ponies to real horses but yeah know  :lol:

Title: Re: What Popular Traits Do You Dislike That Others Like?
Post by: Taffeta on August 01, 2023, 12:52:29 AM

Yeah, I didn't include moulded manes because I think (at least within the community here) they're not super popular. Though I suppose blind bags etc are a bit different, I hate seeing play size ponies in the store with moulded manes. It's lazy. There, I said it.

Though given some of the hair quality in later lines...*sigh*. When you look at how well many G1 ponies' hair has aged compared to some G4 or even G5 ponies out of the package...

As a kid I was super picky on poses. I made decisions about ponies I would buy, sometimes, based on the pose. I know some people have problems keeping poses straight but I was one of those geeky kids who remembered, LOL :)

As an adult I'm much less picky. I'm also surprised that poses I hated as a kid - eg the CJ pose - I now like just fine.

I often wonder why Moondancer/Sunbeam/Sugar Sweet (+the amended one for Princess Misty) were the only ones to use that pose. I wonder if Hasbro also didn't like it much....there are more ponies in the Gusty pose.