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Title: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: kingluke on July 23, 2020, 11:07:57 AM
Hello everyone,

Fun question. If BF would ever remake another play set, which one would you like to see?

I personally would love to see a smaller version of paradise estate. Big enough for ponies but not as huge as the older ones. I would also like to see Dream castle and the lullaby nursery because they were in the show.

I read that Megan's place is very rare, so maybe people would want that.

I can see more popular places being chosen for a nostalgic vibe. That raises the question if people would buy another set from BF but who knows.

Please let me know your thought.

Cheers,

Luke


Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: Ponybookworm on July 23, 2020, 12:17:57 PM
I went for Waterfall as it's not too big & there was a green version & a white version. I still don't have the white one.
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: LadyAmalthea on July 23, 2020, 12:23:41 PM
I chose the Satin Slipper, but wish I could have chosen more than one! I picked it because it was one of my favorites as a kid, and because of its size. It's small enough to be portable, and as a parent, I am unlikely to buy something that takes up a ton of space (such as Paradise Estate...believe me, I own a PE and know it has a BIG floor footprint!) that we just can't spare. Second would be, for the same nostalgic and size reasons, Baby Bonnet School of Dance...but then BF would have to make the baby ponies to go with it, since I don't think adults fit on the rotating circles...but that wouldn't be a bad thing to have happen either  ;)
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: banditpony on July 23, 2020, 01:08:57 PM
I'd want one of the petite playsets.. like the carousel.
Mostly because I like smaller scaled things. lol.
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: Nemesis on July 23, 2020, 01:14:36 PM
I’d love vibrant, shiny, new Dream Castle—with no fading or sticker loss. <3 Paradise Estate would also be fantastic, for the sake of having one mint and complete.
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: goddessofpeep on July 23, 2020, 02:06:57 PM
I don’t want any of those. I want the unreleased snow cone playset:
http://mylittlewiki.org/wiki/File:Sweet-ice-delight-cottage.jpg

Judging from the furniture, it looks like a full sized pony playset. It was listed in one of my brochures, but never released. I spent years staring at the picture and trying to find it in stores. 
*shakes fist*
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: LadyAmalthea on July 23, 2020, 02:10:20 PM
I don’t want any of those. I want the unreleased snow cone playset:
http://mylittlewiki.org/wiki/File:Sweet-ice-delight-cottage.jpg

Judging from the furniture, it looks like a full sized pony playset. It was listed in one of my brochures, but never released. I spent years staring at the picture and trying to find it in stores. 
*shakes fist*

Ditto this. I don't know why that never got made...I would have been all over it (and still would!). We had the Snoopy Sno-cone thing and loved it.; a pony version would have been even better.
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: LadyMoondancer on July 23, 2020, 02:45:11 PM
Man, it would be so hard to choose!

I love Dream Castle, I wanted it so badly as a kid.  Would be so amazing if it were on the shelves again!

The other one I'd really want to come back would be the Waterfall.  It broke easily so there aren't that many around (although, uh, maybe that's not a point in the "it should be made" category, ha ha) and the original Sprinkles had awful hair, so it would be nice to see a release of her with nice hair.

I think the Baby Buggy (either) would be great too, it's sooo cute!

To me any playset that didn't come with a pony is an automatic "no".  I feel nothing for them.  :lol:
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: Ponyfan on July 23, 2020, 02:55:35 PM
Dream Castle.  :lovey:  I only had the Baby Bonnet School of Dance and the Lullabye Nursery playsets as a child.  I did also have the Pony Purse but I don't think that counts as a playset :haha: 


Ponyfan
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: shabbychicdee on July 23, 2020, 03:06:12 PM
at first my first pick would have been the Basic Fun's purple pretty parlour with lemon drop as its different, never made by hasbro and small enough to fit in my collection and cheaper enough to ship to NZ.
but there wasn't an option :lol: so i picked lullaby nursery, its big and shipping would be pricey but iv always wanted this and in new condition as most have discoloured with age and the stickers have ages badly too.

i really want the nursery so bad. then i saw this post.......


I don’t want any of those. I want the unreleased snow cone playset:
http://mylittlewiki.org/wiki/File:Sweet-ice-delight-cottage.jpg

Judging from the furniture, it looks like a full sized pony playset. It was listed in one of my brochures, but never released. I spent years staring at the picture and trying to find it in stores. 
*shakes fist*


this :D i would have gone nuts over this as a kid, so badly want this now :biggrin:
OR the flutter pony playset that was never made too, gees i really want that to be made also
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: SunPony on July 23, 2020, 03:35:56 PM
That was a tough choice among perm shop, lullaby nursery, and dream castle.  I went with the castle because it probably has the widest appeal and I feel like it could fit the style of multiple generations, and even other toylines!
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: Taffeta on July 23, 2020, 04:44:14 PM
I don't have space for another playset :/ The only G1 playset I don't think I have is the lavender castle and that didn't have a pony with it...

On ponies, a nice shiny Majesty would be nice, so DC perhaps. But PE if they bothered to finally give us a proper Paradise, that'd be awesome. Or the Waterfall...but I hesitate there because I'd take a pretty Sprinkles but not sure about the white base version. However that one broke easily so would be a nice fresh addition.

Satin Slipper might be nice as the UK never got a release of that.

Wondering why the Kitchen and the Schoolhouse didn't make the poll.  I'm guessing because BF are only focusing on what the US line had?
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: ZeldaTheSwordsman on July 23, 2020, 05:56:59 PM
That or provincialism on the pollmaker's part. Mind you, BF could do the kitchen real easy since it's basically just the Pretty Parlor with different accessories.

Would you also accept a new separate-sale Paradise?

I voted for Paradise Estate since I've seen fewer of those on eBay than I have Dream Castle; sometimes when I've looked there's only been PE accessories. But ideally they'd do them all. And frankly, I think taking the plunge on one of the two Big Ones would be good for the line. Yes, it would be a bigger investment than the Pretty Parlor and have a higher price tag. But a Dream Castle or Paradise Estate reissue would also be more impressive than the Pretty Parlor and more in demand, and better drive sales of other ponies to go with it.

Re: the Waterfall, that would be nice too, although possibly with a design tweak (like an extra, transparent cantilever piece to better support the cloud). I've heard the green-base version is just as prone to breaking, which makes sense since it's not like they changed the design.
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: caseysealia on July 23, 2020, 07:00:27 PM
Paradise Estate or Megan's Palace, simply because they're very very hard to get a hold of. Lavender Dream Castle (or the original) would be nice too
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: Taffeta on July 23, 2020, 11:36:31 PM

Would you also accept a new separate-sale Paradise?


I would actually prefer it. So long as it was a proper Paradise, not the SS.
Not that SS Paradise isn't proper, but you know, proper regarding what was advertised and never sold.

The school and the kitchen didn't have ponies either - although I'm fairly certain the school was meant to have Lady Lessons, for some reason she also never happened.
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: ZeldaTheSwordsman on July 24, 2020, 12:51:28 AM

Would you also accept a new separate-sale Paradise?


I would actually prefer it. So long as it was a proper Paradise, not the SS.
Not that SS Paradise isn't proper, but you know, proper regarding what was advertised and never sold.

The school and the kitchen didn't have ponies either - although I'm fairly certain the school was meant to have Lady Lessons, for some reason she also never happened.
Probably because those were towards the tail end and selling them sans pony kept the price down.
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: Taffeta on July 24, 2020, 02:00:41 AM
Eh, the school came out at the same time as the second stable, with the Chinese Lemon Drop which they had to actively go and produce because prior to that she was made in HK. So I don't think it was that necessarily.

Lady Lessons doesn't have a prototype image as far as I know, but she was in the comic. And while there was Miss Hackney in the tales stories, I never felt like she was any more than a support character. But the comic genuinely never invented new ponies prior to the tales switchover. It sometimes included ones not sold here (like the early unicorns etc) or miscoloured ponies, or got their species wrong. But it never flat out invented them. And the school does come with glasses that look like the glasses Lady Lessons wore in the comic.

So yeah, it might have been price point but it probably wasn't because it was the end of the line.

The school predates MLPTales by 2 or 3 years, it was originally connected to the schooltime and playschool babies, and I think they are on the box (can't remember now!) but...yeah, Lady Lessons always bothers me as a pony that never was.

(On the other hand, it may have been the comic getting the wrong end of the stick based on THIS promo image...
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but eh. I don't know. She had a symbol and a name and everything...)
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: kingluke on July 24, 2020, 02:50:21 AM

Wondering why the Kitchen and the Schoolhouse didn't make the poll.  I'm guessing because BF are only focusing on what the US line had?

I didn't include those because I used my g1 collectors guide which is us based. Should I still include them?
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: Taffeta on July 24, 2020, 03:09:31 AM

Wondering why the Kitchen and the Schoolhouse didn't make the poll.  I'm guessing because BF are only focusing on what the US line had?

I didn't include those because I used my g1 collectors guide which is us based. Should I still include them?

Time to get a new collector's guide, since US based = incomplete, and for a European collector, comprehensively irrelevant in most areas.

But BF are only working from the US line, so probably they wouldn't be included in projected production.

The thing is, if you wanted to include all the G1 playsets in the poll, then obv. they should be included.

Why would they not be just because they weren't sold in the US? I mean that's just geography, right?

They're still mainstream G1 pony playsets.
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: goddessofpeep on July 24, 2020, 03:44:44 AM
I like the idea of having the opportunity to own things that were never produced more than just reissues of things I can get or already have. I’d love for them to do the Cosmic ponies or some of the never produced prototype ponies.

I think the Dream Castle would be the best choice from the playsets that were already released.  It’s really popular, very iconic, it won’t cause too many space issues(though if they wanted to do the lavender version, I would not complain), and it could probably be made to retail at a decent price. 

I don’t think the Paradise Estate would work at all.  It’s huge.  It’s actually shockingly huge in person. I used to win all my hide and seek games well into my teenage years because the empty PE box was in the basement, and I could fit inside. It takes over whatever room it’s in. I don’t remember what the price tag in the 80s was, but if the reissue Parlor is $20, a reissue PE has to be over $200 in today’s dollars. Unless they figure out how to make an Ikea flat packed version of the playset for cheap, I can’t see that one working. 

I still think they should do the snow cone cottage:p
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: Taffeta on July 24, 2020, 04:12:11 AM
The PE in the UK retailed in 1987 at £60 - at least that was the RRP - so I would estimate in the US it was probably around $60.
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: ZeldaTheSwordsman on July 24, 2020, 04:41:55 AM
I like the idea of having the opportunity to own things that were never produced more than just reissues of things I can get or already have. I’d love for them to do the Cosmic ponies or some of the never produced prototype ponies.
Those would be neat... But just because you can get existing sets and ponies doesn't mean everyone can get them. And of course, the reissued ponies are $10 for a new-condition pony with accessories included; you're not getting that kind of deal shopping secondhand on eBay.

I think the Dream Castle would be the best choice from the playsets that were already released.  It’s really popular, very iconic, it won’t cause too many space issues(though if they wanted to do the lavender version, I would not complain), and it could probably be made to retail at a decent price. 
Oh, probably, especially after seeing what the original price ($24.99) adjusts to in today's dollars ($62.01) and further factoring in something noted further down.
The box would still have to be on the wide side just from needing to hold the base, but it wouldn't be much wider than that and would probably be less deep than the original.

I don’t think the Paradise Estate would work at all.  It’s huge.  It’s actually shockingly huge in person. I used to win all my hide and seek games well into my teenage years because the empty PE box was in the basement, and I could fit inside. It takes over whatever room it’s in. I don’t remember what the price tag in the 80s was, but if the reissue Parlor is $20, a reissue PE has to be over $200 in today’s dollars. Unless they figure out how to make an Ikea flat packed version of the playset for cheap, I can’t see that one working. 
Mind you, several G1 playset boxes seem to have been designed such they you could stuff the playsets in them fully assembled, which is decidedly not the case with the reissue Pretty Parlor.
So I'm sure they could pack Paradise Estate into a smaller box. It does come apart, after all, and the house sections could be made to nest by alternating which way they faced. And from what I can tell, none of the individual pieces are as wide as Dream Castle's base is.

And here's something to consider: The Pretty Parlor's original pricetag of $11.99, adjusted for inflation, comes out at $29.75.
The reissue is priced at $19.99, so about $10 less than the original's would be today.

So a reissue of Paradise Estate actually has a good chance of being priced less than its 1986 price ($79.99) adjusts to in today's money ($188.15). And even that actually comes in under the $200 you guessed.
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: Taffeta on July 24, 2020, 04:50:48 AM
I like the idea of having the opportunity to own things that were never produced more than just reissues of things I can get or already have. I’d love for them to do the Cosmic ponies or some of the never produced prototype ponies.
Those would be neat... But just because you can get existing sets and ponies doesn't mean everyone can get them.

To be honest this is a good point.

All of the retro ponies last year were brand new for the UK. We grew up with them in our stories; we didn't get them in our stores. So having them at last has been really awesome and amazing.

Yeah, I have them all in the 1980s iteration. But there;s something else about going INTO A STORE and being able to buy them. Especially since they were ponies I grew up with and the nostalgia for them is more real in some ways than some of the ponies we DID have here (like Cascade who was really never in stories).

So I guess a playset where that emotion can be evoked for the most people is the real answer.
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: LadyAmalthea on July 24, 2020, 05:31:55 AM
The Paradise Estate was sold in my area for $74.99 US dollars at Toys R Us. I have this specific memory of telling my dad how I was hoping to save up for it myself, and how many years I estimated it taking to do so. He then, with an amused look on his face, crushed my spirits further by informing me that the state tax alone on a purchase like that was likely to be over $4...even that was an impossible amount for a kid who got paid 5 cents for cleaning all 3 bathrooms or 10 cents for 2 hours of backbreaking work weeding a massive garden!

It was so big that there wasn't even room for it on the store shelves...there was just a big panoramic poster of it up above the pony display for us kids to look at and drool over. I think it even had to be ordered...they might not have even had room to keep it in stock.
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: Carrehz on July 24, 2020, 06:19:28 AM
Honestly, I don't have room for playsets, so... none. :P Or something new. Haha can I vote for the prototype Kitchen with the little yellow kitten? I want that!

(Also I want Lady Lessons to be "real", too. She's so cute.)

But if I had to pick, Dream Castle :) Or Paradise Estate. I love Dream Castle.
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: Tropical_Sunset on July 24, 2020, 07:08:01 AM
Dream Castle. It's a cool set and I'd love to have Majesty.
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: Taffeta on July 24, 2020, 07:46:40 AM
Honestly, I don't have room for playsets, so... none. :P Or something new. Haha can I vote for the prototype Kitchen with the little yellow kitten? I want that!

(Also I want Lady Lessons to be "real", too. She's so cute.)

But if I had to pick, Dream Castle :) Or Paradise Estate. I love Dream Castle.

I always called the cat custard xD. I wish that version had been made as well!

(We got so cheated!)
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: IceCrystal02 on July 24, 2020, 09:32:28 AM
Honestly, I don't have room for playsets, so... none. :P Or something new. Haha can I vote for the prototype Kitchen with the little yellow kitten? I want that!

(Also I want Lady Lessons to be "real", too. She's so cute.)

But if I had to pick, Dream Castle :) Or Paradise Estate. I love Dream Castle.
Do you have a link to an image of that prototype Kitchen? I couldn't find it on MLW.
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: Taffeta on July 24, 2020, 09:37:55 AM
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Post by: IceCrystal02 on July 24, 2020, 10:14:46 AM
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Thanks! I'd definitely buy it if they did this set, if only for the kitty.  :)
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: brightberry on July 24, 2020, 10:19:50 AM
I love the Baby Buggy.  It's small and it rolls.  That just appeals to me.
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on July 24, 2020, 10:32:39 AM
I'm also going for a prototype; the Flutter Pony Hideaway Cottage.

Super cute, and doesn't take up much space.

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Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: ZeldaTheSwordsman on July 24, 2020, 12:50:58 PM
I'd like to know more about that set.

As far as reissues go, I think they need to do Dream Castle at the very least. It's an iconic location, and a cool centerpiece set - much more exciting than the Pretty Parlor.
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: RoseNoire on July 24, 2020, 12:59:05 PM
I would be over the moon if they re-released Paradise Estate.
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: ZeldaTheSwordsman on July 24, 2020, 01:08:54 PM
I would be over the moon if they re-released Paradise Estate.
As would I - I do not have it yet, and it's rather costly on eBay (and that's if there are any listings for the Estate itself, rather than just accessories and sections).
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: BethyVic on July 24, 2020, 01:14:49 PM
I voted for the Lullabye Nursery. I like the decoration and style of the nursery and it is a great place to display babies.  I also like the way it closes up and you can move it easily.  However, I think many of the playsets would be fun to see again.  Especially since some of the buildings haven't held up as well after 30 years and some of mine have pieces broken off.  It would be awesome with the Mail Order ponies were redone.  But, I doubt that will happen. 
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: Carrehz on July 24, 2020, 01:33:50 PM
I'd like to know more about that set.

Here's (http://mlparena.com/index.php/topic,380943.0.html) the old thread about the Flutter Hideaway and other cool prototypes :)

I just want everything from that thread. Give me pony friend dolls and Furbobs and everything between!!
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 24, 2020, 02:15:10 PM
Half of me wants to say Paradise Estate, but practicality dictates that I wouldn't be able to afford it, and I've no place to put it.

The other half says Show Stable.

The unrealistic half demands the Flutter Hideaway.
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: Taffeta on July 24, 2020, 02:26:07 PM
Half of me wants to say Paradise Estate, but practicality dictates that I wouldn't be able to afford it, and I've no place to put it.

The other half says Show Stable.

The unrealistic half demands the Flutter Hideaway.

Unrealistic because it's a third half? XD
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 24, 2020, 02:28:48 PM
Half of me wants to say Paradise Estate, but practicality dictates that I wouldn't be able to afford it, and I've no place to put it.

The other half says Show Stable.

The unrealistic half demands the Flutter Hideaway.

Unrealistic because it's a third half? XD

Absolutely!  :silly:
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: Poster on July 24, 2020, 02:41:31 PM
Voted for Waterfall, but mostly I just hope that if they don't rerelease any more playsets, they at least give us the ponies that came with.
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: northstar3184 on July 24, 2020, 04:56:20 PM
I voted Paradise Estate. I'm not really a fan of the original playsets though. I know the company is going for nostalgia, but I'd really like to see a new and different playset. I like the idea of Paradise Estate, but maybe something a little smaller along the same lines.
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: ZeldaTheSwordsman on July 24, 2020, 05:06:28 PM
I voted Paradise Estate. I'm not really a fan of the original playsets though.
Oh? Why not?

I know the company is going for nostalgia, but I'd really like to see a new and different playset. I like the idea of Paradise Estate, but maybe something a little smaller along the same lines.
Something a little smaller wouldn't work as well, and would be very disappointing to most of us pining to get a hold of one. The whole point of Paradise Estate is to be a big house that can host lots of ponies at once; it even has a pool you could put the Sea Ponies in. Shrinking it would cut down on that ability.
Also, I'm pretty sure that these reissues are being made with the original molds as much as possible.
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: LadyAmalthea on July 24, 2020, 09:29:09 PM
That Flutter Pony cottage is about the coolest thing ever. And I'd love to get my hands on either the kitchen or the school playset, because they weren't sold here...I think they are absolutely charming.
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on July 25, 2020, 02:48:11 AM
While Paradise Estate is my all-time favourite playset and would love to see what they can do with the concept of it today, with the current trend and costs of playset design I'm afraid a toned down PE would be just a flat facade with basic shelving on the back...

I do wonder what the price point would be of a re-release Paradise Estate nowadays. Back in the eighties, where I lived, it was around the equivalent of 100 euros (approx. 110 dollars)

EDIT: The School playset was re-used for the G2 line; the mold could still exist today.
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: kingluke on July 25, 2020, 03:26:51 AM

Wondering why the Kitchen and the Schoolhouse didn't make the poll.  I'm guessing because BF are only focusing on what the US line had?

I didn't include those because I used my g1 collectors guide which is us based. Should I still include them?

Time to get a new collector's guide, since US based = incomplete, and for a European collector, comprehensively irrelevant in most areas.

But BF are only working from the US line, so probably they wouldn't be included in projected production.

The thing is, if you wanted to include all the G1 playsets in the poll, then obv. they should be included.

Why would they not be just because they weren't sold in the US? I mean that's just geography, right?

They're still mainstream G1 pony playsets.

I think I'll just leave it. It's too late to change it now. At least people can talk about in the comments :)
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: Miniature Sheep on July 25, 2020, 03:31:46 AM
If there's ever a repro waterfall, I would buy it in a heartbeat! Although I'm also inclined to opt for Dream Castle as well, because it'd be nice to have a repro Majesty in her traditional style (not the odd wallpapered version that I think was a convention exclusive?) My current Majesty has had somewhat of a hard life by the look of her, and I'd like to have one in better condition. Oh, and the castle itself would be pretty neat to have as well, I suppose. :lol:
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: SunPony on July 25, 2020, 04:52:01 AM

Wondering why the Kitchen and the Schoolhouse didn't make the poll.  I'm guessing because BF are only focusing on what the US line had?

I didn't include those because I used my g1 collectors guide which is us based. Should I still include them?

Time to get a new collector's guide, since US based = incomplete, and for a European collector, comprehensively irrelevant in most areas.

But BF are only working from the US line, so probably they wouldn't be included in projected production.

The thing is, if you wanted to include all the G1 playsets in the poll, then obv. they should be included.

Why would they not be just because they weren't sold in the US? I mean that's just geography, right?

They're still mainstream G1 pony playsets.

I think I'll just leave it. It's too late to change it now. At least people can talk about in the comments :)

Why would they not be made by Basic Fun?  Because BF is US-based, and probably believe that the majority of their customer base is in the US (whether it actually is or not, idk), and their MLP line seems to be based on selling via nostalgia - as in adults who had MLP as kids see these new releases and either want them for themselves or to see their kids play with it. Pretty much no one in the US would look at an EU- or UK-exclusive pony or playset and say "oh I remember that from my childhood! I must have it/get it for my kid!"  Thus we got the US-version of Confetti, etc. 

Personally, I would LOVE if they did the Kitchen or Schoolhouse, because they look awesome to me and I would seriously consider getting them if BF did do them BECAUSE I didn't have either as a kid...but I don't see it happening, so I wouldn't have included them in the poll either.
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Post by: ZeldaTheSwordsman on July 25, 2020, 06:05:39 AM
The reissues also appeal to collectors who got into MLP after G1 ended but still have an interest in G1 (like myself). And either way, adult G1 collectors tend to be aware of those playsets if they've done a little homework.
Here's a reason they would do the kitchen: It's smaller and thus less costly to produce than the likes of Dream Castle.

While Paradise Estate is my all-time favourite playset and would love to see what they can do with the concept of it today, with the current trend and costs of playset design I'm afraid a toned down PE would be just a flat facade with basic shelving on the back...

I do wonder what the price point would be of a re-release Paradise Estate nowadays. Back in the eighties, where I lived, it was around the equivalent of 100 euros (approx. 110 dollars)

EDIT: The School playset was re-used for the G2 line; the mold could still exist today.
I think all the molds have a strong chance of still existing, frankly. I wouldn't expect they'd be recreating molds from scratch, so I'm dead certain the Pretty Parlor's mold still exists at the very least.

Paradise Estate's US retail price was $79.99. Adjusted to 2020 terms, that's $188.15. But it's quite possible that a reissue would cost less than the inflation-adjusted original price - the Pretty Parlor does.
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Post by: Carrehz on July 25, 2020, 06:52:22 AM
Honestly, I have a hard time imagining them making Paradise Estate these days. It's massive! I guess I'd like for it to *exist*, but I wouldn't buy it - no room. I imagine a lot of parents'd feel the same way.

I'd like a smaller option :B.
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Post by: Taffeta on July 25, 2020, 07:24:30 AM

Wondering why the Kitchen and the Schoolhouse didn't make the poll.  I'm guessing because BF are only focusing on what the US line had?

I didn't include those because I used my g1 collectors guide which is us based. Should I still include them?

Time to get a new collector's guide, since US based = incomplete, and for a European collector, comprehensively irrelevant in most areas.

But BF are only working from the US line, so probably they wouldn't be included in projected production.

The thing is, if you wanted to include all the G1 playsets in the poll, then obv. they should be included.

Why would they not be just because they weren't sold in the US? I mean that's just geography, right?

They're still mainstream G1 pony playsets.

I think I'll just leave it. It's too late to change it now. At least people can talk about in the comments :)

Why would they not be made by Basic Fun?

No, why would they not be included in the poll if the intention was to include all playsets from mainstream MLP?  Because in that case they would obv. be included, and should be.

I think you'll find I already covered the BF aspect earlier in my post. It's an entirely different point.
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Post by: northstar3184 on July 25, 2020, 10:47:09 AM
I voted Paradise Estate. I'm not really a fan of the original playsets though.
Oh? Why not?

I know the company is going for nostalgia, but I'd really like to see a new and different playset. I like the idea of Paradise Estate, but maybe something a little smaller along the same lines.
Something a little smaller wouldn't work as well, and would be very disappointing to most of us pining to get a hold of one. The whole point of Paradise Estate is to be a big house that can host lots of ponies at once; it even has a pool you could put the Sea Ponies in. Shrinking it would cut down on that ability.
Also, I'm pretty sure that these reissues are being made with the original molds as much as possible.
I voted Paradise Estate. I'm not really a fan of the original playsets though.
Oh? Why not?

I know the company is going for nostalgia, but I'd really like to see a new and different playset. I like the idea of Paradise Estate, but maybe something a little smaller along the same lines.
Something a little smaller wouldn't work as well, and would be very disappointing to most of us pining to get a hold of one. The whole point of Paradise Estate is to be a big house that can host lots of ponies at once; it even has a pool you could put the Sea Ponies in. Shrinking it would cut down on that ability.
Also, I'm pretty sure that these reissues are being made with the original molds as much as possible.

There's a few reasons I don't like them: The furniture is not pony-sized. Few of the playsets look big enough to hold more than a couple ponies. I like the idea of PE but it's too big and has the aforementioned furniture issue. I'd  like to see a playset along PE lines that built upwards like an apartment building so as not to use so much floor space.
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 25, 2020, 11:55:13 AM
Honestly, I have a hard time imagining them making Paradise Estate these days. It's massive! I guess I'd like for it to *exist*, but I wouldn't buy it - no room. I imagine a lot of parents'd feel the same way.

I'd like a smaller option :B.

Oh I don't know. I've seen some dollhouses that are enormous.
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Post by: ZeldaTheSwordsman on July 26, 2020, 07:17:40 AM
^Yeah, Paradise Estate actually ends up being on the smaller end of things as far as dollhouses in general are concerned thanks to being made for 4" ponies instead of 12" dolls.

And hey, if they can put out 2' guys who turn into bases for Transformers, I don't see why we can't get a reissue of the piece de resistance dollhouse of MLP. Especially since there's less labor cost with MLP playsets and Basic Fun actually tries to be space efficient with their packaging (unlike Hasbro in the '80s).

Agree with Taffeta that the kitchen and the school should be on the poll.

There's a few reasons I don't like them: The furniture is not pony-sized. Few of the playsets look big enough to hold more than a couple ponies. I like the idea of PE but it's too big and has the aforementioned furniture issue.
...So, you dislike how few of them seem to be big enough for more than a couple ponies at a time, yet dislike Paradise Estate for definitely being big enough? :huh:
I agree about some the furniture being ill-suited to ponies. Especially the chairs. Although at least with G1 you have Megan and Molly.

I'd  like to see a playset along PE lines that built upwards like an apartment building so as not to use so much floor space.
Then it wouldn't really be along the lines of Paradise Estate now would it? :P

Thing is, going for that sort of design restricts the play/display space available on each floor. And it would also require designing a new playset from scratch and cutting new molds, instead of digging out and refreshing existing molds from the 1980s. Although if you want such a playset... Are you of much of an arts-and-crafts bent?
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Post by: LadyMoondancer on July 26, 2020, 08:46:42 AM
Ohhh, PE as an apartment building would be so much better!  Or even a two story house (that takes up half as much floor space.)  Kids love elevator features and balconies, it's kind of strange that they denied themselves both those elements by making it a ranch style house.
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: northstar3184 on July 26, 2020, 11:13:27 AM
^Yeah, Paradise Estate actually ends up being on the smaller end of things as far as dollhouses in general are concerned thanks to being made for 4" ponies instead of 12" dolls.

And hey, if they can put out 2' guys who turn into bases for Transformers, I don't see why we can't get a reissue of the piece de resistance dollhouse of MLP. Especially since there's less labor cost with MLP playsets and Basic Fun actually tries to be space efficient with their packaging (unlike Hasbro in the '80s).

Agree with Taffeta that the kitchen and the school should be on the poll.

There's a few reasons I don't like them: The furniture is not pony-sized. Few of the playsets look big enough to hold more than a couple ponies. I like the idea of PE but it's too big and has the aforementioned furniture issue.
...So, you dislike how few of them seem to be big enough for more than a couple ponies at a time, yet dislike Paradise Estate for definitely being big enough? :huh:
I agree about some the furniture being ill-suited to ponies. Especially the chairs. Although at least with G1 you have Megan and Molly.

I'd  like to see a playset along PE lines that built upwards like an apartment building so as not to use so much floor space.
Then it wouldn't really be along the lines of Paradise Estate now would it? :P

Thing is, going for that sort of design restricts the play/display space available on each floor. And it would also require designing a new playset from scratch and cutting new molds, instead of digging out and refreshing existing molds from the 1980s. Although if you want such a playset... Are you of much of an arts-and-crafts bent?

No, I'm not craftsy at all. But yeah something thats between PE and the smaller sets in terms of size would be ideal, but I also understand it's unrealistic since Basic Fun is not creating new items.
Title: Re: If basic fun remade another g1 playset, whcih one do you want it be?
Post by: ZeldaTheSwordsman on July 26, 2020, 01:05:21 PM
Ohhh, PE as an apartment building would be so much better!  Or even a two story house (that takes up half as much floor space.)  Kids love elevator features and balconies, it's kind of strange that they denied themselves both those elements by making it a ranch style house.
I can think of some reasons why they went with that
1. They had done multilevel playsets the previous two years (Dream Castle and the Lullabye Nursery), so a ranch style house was a way to mix it up a bit.
2. A ranch-style house probably seemed thematically-appropriate to them
3. Occupying a lot of floor space was considered impressive (and there are dollhouses that take up a fair bit more, as well as more vertical room), and they wanted to give MLP a playset that was impressively huge (it's not the most extreme example from Hasbro either; that would be the 7' long USS Flagg of G.I. Joe fame).
4. Going with a large-footprint design let them work in a courtyard and swimming pool.
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Post by: Sunset on July 27, 2020, 04:42:29 PM
I voted for the Waterfall because it’s one I don’t have that I want, it’s small ( I really don’t have anymore room for anything bigger) and it’s very pastoral. I tend to like my ponies more fantasy, less urban.
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Post by: Taffeta on July 27, 2020, 04:59:30 PM
To be honest, PE doesn't hold that many ponies either.

Not comfortably. Just saying.

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Edit: I just realised for the first time in 30+ years that that advert is also lowkey promoting the elusive 1987 M&S set with Country Jamboree.
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Post by: ZeldaTheSwordsman on July 27, 2020, 06:23:26 PM
To be honest, PE doesn't hold that many ponies either.

Not comfortably. Just saying.

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Edit: I just realised for the first time in 30+ years that that advert is also lowkey promoting the elusive 1987 M&S set with Country Jamboree.

Well, it did become her default outfit in-show starting with the movie, probably because it's the most farmgirlish of the produced outfits.

Judging by photos, PE seems to still hold more than the likes of the Satin Slipper Sweet Shoppe, the Show Stable, or even Dream Castle (especially when closed). And no other set has a pool.

If its capacity only goes so far as-is, then IMO that's a good argument against shrinking it
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Post by: LadyMoondancer on July 27, 2020, 06:50:07 PM
Random note, I'm pretty sure the teal outfit that Megan wears in the show was originally "Picnic in the Park", and at some point the name was accidentally switched with the denim dress with the white shirt with little hearts on it, which was originally Country Jamboree.

That's how they were labeled in the brochure I had as a kid (denim = Country Jamboree, teal outfit = Picnic) and it would fit better, because in the backcard art of the teal outfit, Megan is sitting on the ground with a picnic basket, feeding Sundance a carrot.

It's true that the backcards are always labeled the opposite, but in my heart the denim one is Country Jamboree.  :P (Denim feels more "country" to me, too.)
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Post by: Shaz on July 28, 2020, 01:35:11 AM
I imagine Dream Castle would prove popular because it's so iconic. But if it was left up to me, I'd like a re-release of the kitchen or the schoolhouse. They're both cute, and small enough to store easily.
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Post by: Taffeta on July 28, 2020, 04:21:49 AM
Random note, I'm pretty sure the teal outfit that Megan wears in the show was originally "Picnic in the Park", and at some point the name was accidentally switched with the denim dress with the white shirt with little hearts on it, which was originally Country Jamboree.

That's how they were labeled in the brochure I had as a kid (denim = Country Jamboree, teal outfit = Picnic) and it would fit better, because in the backcard art of the teal outfit, Megan is sitting on the ground with a picnic basket, feeding Sundance a carrot.

It's true that the backcards are always labeled the opposite, but in my heart the denim one is Country Jamboree.  :P (Denim feels more "country" to me, too.)

What, Hasbro making a mistake?

...Never.

(Night Song/Stella anyone?)

But I just think of it as the second edition M&S wear (and saying M&S wear always amuses me <3). I only learned the US name to communicate which one it was to other people. As far as I'm concerned there's Country Jamboree and five other not Country Jamboree M&S outfits ;)

@ZeldatheSwordsman, yeah, but it's also the only one of the M&S outfits the UK had. And it's almost certainly got picked so that it would sync with the movie, since Megan is I think on the Movie Star card wearing it. But my point was that I used to look at that ad a lot as a kid, wanting PE, and I link it in threads a lot and that's the first time in 30 years I realised that it's the 2nd 1987 Megan and Sundance and not the more common one.  Which makes sense in the timeline, I just never noticed till now xD.
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Post by: mlp4me on July 28, 2020, 09:45:08 AM
Buggy gets my vote. Not many parts and so many colors it could be...
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Post by: StrawberrySparkle on July 28, 2020, 08:55:22 PM
waterfall! the sucker is so rare!
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Post by: ChocolateStarfire on July 28, 2020, 08:57:36 PM
Paradise Estate would make me cry, I would love to get my hooves on that one! D:
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Post by: toyjunky on July 29, 2020, 01:53:13 PM
Paradise Estate!

I don't need it, I just WANT it.  :biggrin:
Still would have to figure out where in the world I would put it, but that always comes later.
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Post by: halicabi on July 30, 2020, 05:48:40 PM
I'd probably want ALL of them.

Space and finances will conspire against me.

That being said, I'd want a green version of the Waterfall, as that's the only playset of the ones listed that I don't have.

halicabi
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Post by: Taffeta on July 31, 2020, 01:33:46 AM
I often wonder why there ever was a green waterfall.

It doesn't make an iota of sense, not really.

"Everywhere else they're selling this white one so let's spend money and make a green one just to sell in the UK".

Why, Hasbro? ><

It also used to be much easier to ship those abroad. Then they changed the postage dimensions and made it more tricky. I traded quite a few overseas in the old days, but now I'm not sure how easy it would be.
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Post by: ZeldaTheSwordsman on July 31, 2020, 02:24:11 AM
I often wonder why there ever was a green waterfall.

It doesn't make an iota of sense, not really.

"Everywhere else they're selling this white one so let's spend money and make a green one just to sell in the UK".

Why, Hasbro? ><

It also used to be much easier to ship those abroad. Then they changed the postage dimensions and made it more tricky. I traded quite a few overseas in the old days, but now I'm not sure how easy it would be.
I kinda like Cascade's Waterfall a bit better, because of how the green changes the base from a pool in the clouds to a pool amid mossy rocks or grassy hillocks.
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Post by: Lilja on July 31, 2020, 02:25:04 AM
I often wonder why there ever was a green waterfall.

It doesn't make an iota of sense, not really.

I kind of assumed it was because most of the early pegasi didn't get released in the UK. Meanwhile nearly all of the early earth ponies were part of the UK line, so it seems logical they wanted the playset to be more "earth based" rather than among the clouds. That way the playset feels more compatible with most of the ponies Hasbro UK were offering at the time. (As to why they didn't seem to want to release many unicorns/pegasi in the beginning, that's harder to think of a plausible explanation for)
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Post by: Taffeta on July 31, 2020, 02:35:13 AM
I often wonder why there ever was a green waterfall.

It doesn't make an iota of sense, not really.

I kind of assumed it was because most of the early pegasi didn't get released in the UK. Meanwhile nearly all of the early earth ponies were part of the UK line, so it seems logical they wanted the playset to be more "earth based" rather than among the clouds. That way the playset feels more compatible with most of the ponies Hasbro UK were offering at the time. (As to why they didn't seem to want to release many unicorns/pegasi in the beginning, that's harder to think of a plausible explanation for)

That is a really smart answer. I never thought about it like that but it makes absolute sense.

I'm guessing the uni peg thing was just they thought it was a financial gamble early on. In 1986 mad things happened so I put that down to Hasbro being a bit chaotic...since they did get UK carded, just not UK sold.

But by that point the Waterfall was done.

Also, they originally sold an earth pony with it here, Sprinkles came later in 1985. So an earth pony would not be in the clouds.

Brilliant. Can't believe I never thought of that.
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Post by: Ponybookworm on July 31, 2020, 02:41:44 AM
I often wonder why there ever was a green waterfall.

It doesn't make an iota of sense, not really.

I kind of assumed it was because most of the early pegasi didn't get released in the UK. Meanwhile nearly all of the early earth ponies were part of the UK line, so it seems logical they wanted the playset to be more "earth based" rather than among the clouds. That way the playset feels more compatible with most of the ponies Hasbro UK were offering at the time. (As to why they didn't seem to want to release many unicorns/pegasi in the beginning, that's harder to think of a plausible explanation for)
This is sensible.
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Post by: bright rabbit 1 on July 31, 2020, 04:56:50 AM
Baby Buggy for me
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Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on August 01, 2020, 01:22:37 AM
Ohhh, PE as an apartment building would be so much better!  Or even a two story house (that takes up half as much floor space.)  Kids love elevator features and balconies, it's kind of strange that they denied themselves both those elements by making it a ranch style house.
I can think of some reasons why they went with that
1. They had done multilevel playsets the previous two years (Dream Castle and the Lullabye Nursery), so a ranch style house was a way to mix it up a bit.
2. A ranch-style house probably seemed thematically-appropriate to them
3. Occupying a lot of floor space was considered impressive (and there are dollhouses that take up a fair bit more, as well as more vertical room), and they wanted to give MLP a playset that was impressively huge (it's not the most extreme example from Hasbro either; that would be the 7' long USS Flagg of G.I. Joe fame).
4. Going with a large-footprint design let them work in a courtyard and swimming pool.

Good points!

I'm curious whether the PE, how it came to be and maybe earlier designs, was discussed with Bonnie Zacherle when she attended MLP fairs in the past? If anyone remembers, I'd love to hear all about it :)
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Post by: LadyMoondancer on August 01, 2020, 09:18:15 AM
Bonnie wouldn't know anything about PE, I don't think.  She left Hasbro right as MLP was getting off the ground so the only ones she designed & named personally were the Collector ponies. :)

But yeah, that would be fascinating!  It's interesting because wasn't this the same year they cancelled the Flutter Hideaway playset?  Because the economy was bad and they didn't feel confident being spread so thin?  The movie introduced the flutter ponies so I would think it was the same year, at least.  You'd think it would make more sense to cancel the huge PE, which was less likely to sell as many units and took up more shelf space.
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Post by: Taffeta on August 01, 2020, 09:57:04 AM
I wonder if the flutter hideaway didn't happen because the wings were so delicate and it was seen as an own goal - that the ponies would break more easily inside a playset than outside of one. PE had more space.

I have always believed the reason we didn't get Paradise here is because we basically didn't end up doing our own PE production. The very small amount of evidence I have seen over the years suggests a US box here, which means that US boxed ones were probably imported and distributed and thus Paradise never happened.

But I imagine once they committed to making it, this was the best way of making it pay.
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Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 01, 2020, 10:08:51 AM
I wonder if the flutter hideaway didn't happen because the wings were so delicate and it was seen as an own goal - that the ponies would break more easily inside a playset than outside of one. PE had more space.

I have always believed the reason we didn't get Paradise here is because we basically didn't end up doing our own PE production. The very small amount of evidence I have seen over the years suggests a US box here, which means that US boxed ones were probably imported and distributed and thus Paradise never happened.

But I imagine once they committed to making it, this was the best way of making it pay.

Good point. I hadn't thought of that.

I do wonder if it opened up and what it looked like on the inside?
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Post by: Carrehz on August 10, 2020, 07:24:42 AM
The movie introduced the flutter ponies so I would think it was the same year, at least.  You'd think it would make more sense to cancel the huge PE, which was less likely to sell as many units and took up more shelf space.

True... but the movie very prominently featured PE. Maybe they weighed up the pros and cons and decided to go ahead with the one they'd advertised so much in the cartoon? Flutter Valley's only in the movie for like... maybe a minute at most.
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Post by: ZeldaTheSwordsman on August 11, 2020, 02:04:55 PM
The movie introduced the flutter ponies so I would think it was the same year, at least.  You'd think it would make more sense to cancel the huge PE, which was less likely to sell as many units and took up more shelf space.

True... but the movie very prominently featured PE. Maybe they weighed up the pros and cons and decided to go ahead with the one they'd advertised so much in the cartoon? Flutter Valley's only in the movie for like... maybe a minute at most.
More than a minute.

LadyMoondancer, just because the Hideaway was meant to go with the Flutter Ponies doesn't mean it was planned for the year they debuted. I've read the prototype thread and Ruth Bush stated the 1987 economic downturn as the reason for the Flutter Hideaway's cancellation. So it was definitely planned for '87, presumably as an accompaniment to the second set of Flutter Ponies.

Whereas Paradise Estate, the movie, and the Flutter Ponies were first released in the US in 1986, so they came before the 1987 downturn.
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Post by: Carrehz on August 11, 2020, 04:12:29 PM
The movie introduced the flutter ponies so I would think it was the same year, at least.  You'd think it would make more sense to cancel the huge PE, which was less likely to sell as many units and took up more shelf space.

True... but the movie very prominently featured PE. Maybe they weighed up the pros and cons and decided to go ahead with the one they'd advertised so much in the cartoon? Flutter Valley's only in the movie for like... maybe a minute at most.
More than a minute.

Yeah, but it doesn't get much show. Paradise Estate got a whole song. :P
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