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Pony Talk => Pony Corral => Topic started by: kingluke on June 17, 2020, 10:46:13 AM
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Hello everyone,
Today there was a great ad online. It had the complete set of jewellery babies, two surprise diaper babies, a little brother with bandana, the complete apple delight family, baby princess sparkle, a sea pony with float and so much more. All for 45 euro's. I immediately responded the minute the ad was up. I waited for a response but only got to see how they read my message and didn't respond (total d*ck move imo, if you have time to read, you have time to talk). Now the ad is reserved for someone else. I'm kinda upset at this but it was to be expected I suppose.
What are your pony buying tales of woe?
Outbid at the last minute? Unresponsive or bad sellers?
Share your stories here.
Cheers,
Luke
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Oh man, my first auction I was supremely inexperienced and didn’t know what to expect. Like a fool, I hadn’t really read over the tips so I was afraid that every bid I made (if won), I’d have to pay. Lets say the current winning bid was $30 and I put $60 as my highest, and no one outbid me, I was afraid I’d have to pay the full $60.
So I saw this GORGEOUS loose but complete G2 silverswirl and kept my eye on her for a week. I laid my claim with a relatively low bid but the night of the end of the auction another bidder (clearly more experienced than I was) hopped on and swept her out from beneath me, even as we entered a full out bidding war (due to my aforementioned fears, I was only bidding in increments of $1). At the last minute I thought I’d won, but alas.
I have a complete loose Silverswirl now, but I’ll never forget the crushing defeat I felt xD No hard feelings towards the winning bidder, by the way.
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Oh man, my first auction I was supremely inexperienced and didn’t know what to expect. Like a fool, I hadn’t really read over the tips so I was afraid that every bid I made (if won), I’d have to pay. Lets say the current winning bid was $30 and I put $60 as my highest, and no one outbid me, I was afraid I’d have to pay the full $60.
So I saw this GORGEOUS loose but complete G2 silverswirl and kept my eye on her for a week. I laid my claim with a relatively low bid but the night of the end of the auction another bidder (clearly more experienced than I was) hopped on and swept her out from beneath me, even as we entered a full out bidding war (due to my aforementioned fears, I was only bidding in increments of $1). At the last minute I thought I’d won, but alas.
I have a complete loose Silverswirl now, but I’ll never forget the crushing defeat I felt xD No hard feelings towards the winning bidder, by the way.
That really sucks. I'm glad you have her now :).
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Sweet Celebrations family that only had the mum, baby brother, and baby sister (it was on bidding and make a offer) I made a offer of £15 over the asking price, they rejected the offer, went to bid on it and I missed out.
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Oh that really sucks! Bidding wars are so nerve wrecking. And getting ignored and missing out on a buy is awful.
As for my story, for a while it seems like buying Buzzer was cursed for me. Either I was always too late with responding or I had very unresponsive sellers.
With 2 different sellers they simply ignored my bids or messages. They sold the pony to someone else without informing me on the different bids. If I'm outbid, at least let me know about it...
Then with another 2 different sellers they responded to my bids and we made an agreement on the sale. I basically offered them the asking price. When I asked for payment details, these sellers decided to ghost me :pout: Maybe they changed their mind about selling but I still don't understand. They even wanted the shipping address just before ghosting me.
In the end I did finally found a responsive seller when Buzzer was part of a g3 lot. So perhaps that lifted the "curse" somehow
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I missed out on so many things in the past that I can't list it all here. The problem with local platforms is that if sellers, who are unexperienced, offer something great for sale they get so many responses from people that they are often overwhelmed. Often they change the listing from "fixed price" to "open for offers" and sell it for the highest bid. That is kind of annoying because it has become the new reality.
And yes ignorance is a thing that bothers me as well. People are not polite enough anymore to answer even if you don't get the item. But yes that is normal as well.
Bidding wars on ebay are usual and the good thing is they end when the auction is over. On yahoo.jp you can set an option which extends the bidding time until no one bids within 5 minutes, so one / all of the participants are giving up. THAT is nerve wrecking!
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I missed out on so many things in the past that I can't list it all here. The problem with local platforms is that if sellers, who are unexperienced, offer something great for sale they get so many responses from people that they are often overwhelmed. Often they change the listing from "fixed price" to "open for offers" and sell it for the highest bid. That is kind of annoying because it has become the new reality.
And yes ignorance is a thing that bothers me as well. People are not polite enough anymore to answer even if you don't get the item. But yes that is normal as well.
Bidding wars on ebay are usual and the good thing is they end when the auction is over. On yahoo.jp you can set an option which extends the bidding time until no one bids within 5 minutes, so one / all of the participants are giving up. THAT is nerve wrecking!
Exactly! Please check what you have, but then again, I love a good deal.
There's just no excuse to not be polite honestly. The seller i contacted was kind of to let me know the ponies were sold, so no hard feelings but people that can't do basic communication shouldn't really be sellers I think. (Or am I being to harsh here, idk?)
That version of bidding on yahoo sounds awful. i hope it doesn't happen to you.
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I've missed out on so many, but the worst ones are the ones when I've asked the seller a question and they couldn't be bothered to answer before the auction ended.
I've been searching for the top clip piece for the Cuddles baby buggy for months, and once in a while I've seen it pop up in accessory lots just as a random piece. Each time, I've contacted the seller to ask if they would be willing to split the lot up and sell me just that piece. Not one has ever responded. Seriously...they could relist the lot without that piece (most people probably wouldn't know what it is anyway and throw it away) for the same price they originally listed it, and then plus make whatever money they agreed to sell the buggy piece for, win-win for everybody, right? Or if it's too much trouble to make an extra 5 or 10 bucks, just say no!! At least respond, so I'm not hanging on checking my messages every 15 minutes for a week to see if you did.
Same with questions about combined shipping. Some people don't like to answer that question either. My son wanted the Cutie Mark Crusaders, and I was having trouble finding all 3 of them for a price I wanted to pay. Finally one seller had 2 lots listed, and if I had purchase both, all 3 CMCs would have been in there. I put them in my watch list, and the seller made me a cheaper offer on both. I was seriously considering it, but wanted to make sure they were willing to combine the shipping (especially since I didn't want anything else in the lots other than those 3 ponies), and they just ignored the question. Maybe they thought I was getting a good enough deal with their cheaper offer, I don't know. Well I didn't bite, and 2 months later I think those same lots are still sitting unsold in my watch list. Again...how hard is it to just say no?
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I've missed out on so many, but the worst ones are the ones when I've asked the seller a question and they couldn't be bothered to answer before the auction ended.
I've been searching for the top clip piece for the Cuddles baby buggy for months, and once in a while I've seen it pop up in accessory lots just as a random piece. Each time, I've contacted the seller to ask if they would be willing to split the lot up and sell me just that piece. Not one has ever responded. Seriously...they could relist the lot without that piece (most people probably wouldn't know what it is anyway and throw it away) for the same price they originally listed it, and then plus make whatever money they agreed to sell the buggy piece for, win-win for everybody, right? Or if it's too much trouble to make an extra 5 or 10 bucks, just say no!! At least respond, so I'm not hanging on checking my messages every 15 minutes for a week to see if you did.
Same with questions about combined shipping. Some people don't like to answer that question either. My son wanted the Cutie Mark Crusaders, and I was having trouble finding all 3 of them for a price I wanted to pay. Finally one seller had 2 lots listed, and if I had purchase both, all 3 CMCs would have been in there. I put them in my watch list, and the seller made me a cheaper offer on both. I was seriously considering it, but wanted to make sure they were willing to combine the shipping (especially since I didn't want anything else in the lots other than those 3 ponies), and they just ignored the question. Maybe they thought I was getting a good enough deal with their cheaper offer, I don't know. Well I didn't bite, and 2 months later I think those same lots are still sitting unsold in my watch list. Again...how hard is it to just say no?
Yeesh :/ I’ve definitely been there. I was made an offer for a winger pony recently, but the pictures were blurry, so I thanked them for the offer and asked if they could confirm that the pony didn’t have any missing hair plugs or haircuts. They never responded and the offer expired. :(
Here’s another great story of mishap-
I saw a G2 golden glow II on eBay for less than $60 once, and was about to buy her when my power cut out. An hour or so later when the power returned, I returned to my watchlist to find her sold :(
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Yeesh :/ I’ve definitely been there. I was made an offer for a winger pony recently, but the pictures were blurry, so I thanked them for the offer and asked if they could confirm that the pony didn’t have any missing hair plugs or haircuts. They never responded and the offer expired. :(
Here’s another great story of mishap-
I saw a G2 golden glow II on eBay for less than $60 once, and was about to buy her when my power cut out. An hour or so later when the power returned, I returned to my watchlist to find her sold :(
Oh man, that's frustrating! I think I may have had my device die right before the end of an auction before and I missed out, but not on anything I was super passionate about, thankfully.
I wonder if the seller didn't respond because they were an inexperienced seller and/or not a collector and didn't know how to tell if there had been haircuts/plugs missing, but that's no excuse for not replying at all...so rude!
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Missed out on bait Newborn Twins Sniffles & Snookums, Wind Whistler, and Baby Lucky from the same seller.
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The one that springs to mind was BIN Baby Cherries Jubilee for $30...
Although I do wish, given how much I was using Japanese auctions in 2007ish, I had scoured the whole market for cheap Takara ponies. I don't like them, but they would've sure helped with my rent last year...
I've probably had several which have been sniped out from under my nose because I have never and will never use sniping software. But then again I've had just as much luck winning things from manual sniping (and that skill has helped us get shopping delivery slots since march, so I won't complain too much). The ones that spring to mind there though are Jem ones, not so much MLP.
There was MIB Baby Tic Tac Toe who I legitimately won but then the seller claimed it was lost in transit and they were moving and yeah. I got my money back. THere was one other like that but it's traumatic and I am not inclined to explain right now.
On a personal being scammed note, twice. Once for Baby Li'l Cupcake - that was Baby Bouncy, the notorious, using her "safe first trade scam on the second" technique. I have the pony now, but always wonder what happened to the sweetie baby I sent her.
The second one...was very ugly and the reason I no longer post on the TP. It's the kind of thing if you know, you know about it. If you don't, you don't. And probably don't need to. But let's just say if the person ever became active in the community again, I would not hold back on outing them.
And finally, at the carboot sale as a kid, I remember there was another collector who sometimes beat us to ponies. She liked to shove the ponies she'd got in our faces, and once made my sister cry because she got Italian Heart Throb first and gloated over it. Heart THrob wasn't sold here in any form so that was the only HT we'd ever seen. And Naynie had been watching the TV eps from her friend's vhs and REALLY wanted her.
BUT when the collector sold up her ponies, I made a point of going through and finding HT. So my sister did get the pony in the end. But nobody makes my sister cry -.-.
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I've missed out on so many, but the worst ones are the ones when I've asked the seller a question and they couldn't be bothered to answer before the auction ended.
I've been searching for the top clip piece for the Cuddles baby buggy for months, and once in a while I've seen it pop up in accessory lots just as a random piece. Each time, I've contacted the seller to ask if they would be willing to split the lot up and sell me just that piece. Not one has ever responded. Seriously...they could relist the lot without that piece (most people probably wouldn't know what it is anyway and throw it away) for the same price they originally listed it, and then plus make whatever money they agreed to sell the buggy piece for, win-win for everybody, right? Or if it's too much trouble to make an extra 5 or 10 bucks, just say no!! At least respond, so I'm not hanging on checking my messages every 15 minutes for a week to see if you did.
Please don't message sellers to end their listings early so you can get the HTF piece in the lot. It's actually something that is against Ebay TOS.
More importantly, and on-topic, MANY MANY MANY MLP collectors' biggest pet peeve is when someone does this. It has caused a lot of hurt feelings and drama.
I know you are thinking, "Oh it's just a little plastic part." But what if we are talking about a lot of ponies, and the one pony in the corner with the hair half-hidden is a Sweet Scoops with a charm? And you're watching this auction, you're the high bidder, and then all of a sudden, the listing is no longer available. Sometimes the seller will even give you an excuse - "my dog chewed them, my kid changed their mind," whatever, then you see the lot a day later and it's missing that one pony. GUESS what happened?
Okay my stories! Like Pandabear_chan, there have been SO MANY over the decades that I cannot remember them all. But here are a few that I am still seething over:
- the "hidden pony gem" in a large lot ; I was SOCLOSE to owning a set of TAF babies in amongst a ton of other common MLP, but some horrible person messaged the seller and told them those ponies were not just common MLP.
the seller on a local sales site who decided their sales ad was an auction. I had already agreed to pick up and pay in cash ; we're in the car 3/4 of the way there, and the seller starts texting me, "just got offered $x, what will you pay?"
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I was at a random swap meet a few years ago and saw a Rapunzel (Before I knew exactly who she was and how rare). The seller wanted $75. I thought they were asking way too much for a G1 MLP and she had a lot of marker drawings and scribbles and a lot of visible tail rust besides other random marks typical to ponies. I looked her up a few days later and discovered what she really was. Now I know better, oh well (and if your wondering, yes I went back the next week and she was gone).
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Nice catch, LBS, I missed that.
It's a taboo in the community. Once I saw an ebay seller published questions like that on the auction so it was obvious who was asking and why, so it's not necessarily something you can do without being found out.
But it's generally bad etiquette, so good practice not to do it. I know there are people who have been community blacklisted for it in the past.
I remember blacklisting someone from my auctions in the Jem community because she had a practice of getting auctions closed early and bids cancelled.
Sellers worth their salt will not comply anyway.
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Nice catch, LBS, I missed that.
It's a taboo in the community. Once I saw an ebay seller published questions like that on the auction so it was obvious who was asking and why, so it's not necessarily something you can do without being found out.
But it's generally bad etiquette, so good practice not to do it. I know there are people who have been community blacklisted for it in the past.
I remember blacklisting someone from my auctions in the Jem community because she had a practice of getting auctions closed early and bids cancelled.
Sellers worth their salt will not comply anyway.
Wait, I don't fully understand. Is asking to buy something loose wrong? Am I missing the point?
I don't want to be blacklisted anywhere. I've never had it happen before but I'm pretty sure I'm missing something here. Can somebody explain?
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A decent looking thundercloud is what I missed out on. I bought another mountain boy at the time. I could go back and buy him. He had a head/mismatch but that did not bother me. I keeping I will find him someday. I also missed out on a few mountain boy auctions. :/
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Please don't message sellers to end their listings early so you can get the HTF piece in the lot. It's actually something that is against Ebay TOS.
More importantly, and on-topic, MANY MANY MANY MLP collectors' biggest pet peeve is when someone does this. It has caused a lot of hurt feelings and drama.
Really? I had no idea that this was a bad thing to do. I just figured, hey, it's a buy-it-now auction, so there are no bidders or anything (I wouldn't have asked if there had been bids), who was it hurting to ask? I won't do it anymore. I'm kind of mortified, but glad you told me, thank you.
I still think the seller(s) could have taken the time to message back and just say no they couldn't do that.
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Nice catch, LBS, I missed that.
It's a taboo in the community. Once I saw an ebay seller published questions like that on the auction so it was obvious who was asking and why, so it's not necessarily something you can do without being found out.
But it's generally bad etiquette, so good practice not to do it. I know there are people who have been community blacklisted for it in the past.
I remember blacklisting someone from my auctions in the Jem community because she had a practice of getting auctions closed early and bids cancelled.
Sellers worth their salt will not comply anyway.
Wait, I don't fully understand. Is asking to buy something loose wrong? Am I missing the point?
I don't want to be blacklisted anywhere. I've never had it happen before but I'm pretty sure I'm missing something here. Can somebody explain?
I will explain it since we have the same local selling website.
For other collectors it's not cool if you see a lot of ponies in an ad and you ask the seller to sell you a specific pony.
The selling system we have has been set up in such way that as long the ad doesn't mention "all in one buy" you are legit to ask for a specific pony (product). It would be very nice if the seller mentions that a few ponies already have been sold. But sadly enough they don't do that all the time with the risk you are not getting everything. Which happened to me once.
Recently there is this feedback system where you can mention they didn't ship everything in the ad so that should prevent this action.
As for Ebay, that's an auction site. So whatever you bid on, you should be counting on it you get what you bid on. Then it's really not done to contact the seller if you want a specific pony. Because it's basically asking to end the auction and relist without that pony. And like someone mentions Ebay has specific rules.
Do I have stories of ponies I missed out? Too much too tell after almost 20 years of collecting. But the best part is there will always be another opportunity to get them. Sometimes it could take a month and sometimes a few years.
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I've missed out on a lot due to the "oh, there's a lot of them up right now, so I'll just pick one up later" thing. The worst was a MIB Greek Baby Minty. For 1-2 months in the summer of 2002, there was a glut of them on the market, and they were cheap. Babies that had non-Greek counterparts(Baby Cotton Candy, Baby Blossom, etc) were $50 MIB. Babies that were pretty much exclusive to Greece(Baby Minty, Baby Butterscotch, etc) were $100. I graduated college right then, and my boyfriend(now husband) offered to get me a pony for a present. I felt bad about asking for the $100 Baby Minty, and opted for the $50 Baby Cotton Candy, figuring I could pick up a Baby Minty later since there were so many of them.
Yeah, big mistake.
There is another thing that happens on ebay that makes me violently angry, and I've encountered it more than once. It's a handful of people that do it, but it's extremely hard to figure out who. Not that they'd stop if exposed, but they would probably be driven out of the community if outed. There are a few people who stalk COMPLETED BIN auctions for deals. They'll find an item that went to someone else for a deal, and contact the seller to see if they can get the seller to sell to them instead. Some do, and that's all on the seller. The seller usually contacts the legitimate buyer with some crap story about their cat eating the pony, or "my toddler threw it out and I took out the trash without noticing". Somehow cats never eat cheap ponies, and toddlers don't touch anything worth less than $100. It's never a beat up Peachy, it's always something rare. Sometimes it's not even that much of a deal, it's just something hard to find.
I've had it happen to me more than once. The most memorable time was a lot of accessories that included the charm from Mail Order Sweet Scoops. I won it fair and square, I paid for it immediately, the seller confirmed it was going out the next day. I don't remember how much I won it for(rage has blocked that out), but I woke up to a message from the seller the next day that his daughter wanted to keep the items for "sentimental reasons", and he had already refunded my money. That was a total lie. He even had a completed pony auction from a week before that actually stated he was selling his daughter's ponies because she didn't care about them. Anyway, I didn't get my charm, and I never found out who contacted the seller.
When I win a BIN, I don't count it as mine until I have it in hand, or at least a legitimate shipping number. I've had more than one "my dog ate it, here's your money back" BIN happen. It's been going on as long as there have been BINs available on ebay. There are people who just check first thing in the morning to see if anything good sold the night before, and they just take a shot that the seller's a terrible person too.
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I will explain it since we have the same local selling website.
For other collectors it's not cool if you see a lot of ponies in an ad and you ask the seller to sell you a specific pony.
The selling system we have has been set up in such way that as long the ad doesn't mention "all in one buy" you are legit to ask for a specific pony (product). It would be very nice if the seller mentions that a few ponies already have been sold. But sadly enough they don't do that all the time with the risk you are not getting everything. Which happened to me once.
Recently there is this feedback system where you can mention they didn't ship everything in the ad so that should prevent this action.
As for Ebay, that's an auction site. So whatever you bid on, you should be counting on it you get what you bid on. Then it's really not done to contact the seller if you want a specific pony. Because it's basically asking to end the auction and relist without that pony. And like someone mentions Ebay has specific rules.
Do I have stories of ponies I missed out? Too much too tell after almost 20 years of collecting. But the best part is there will always be another opportunity to get them. Sometimes it could take a month and sometimes a few years.
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Wait, asking that is really wrong? How did I not know this. I might have done that in the past once but not out of malice. Can you also not ask if a seller is selling loose anyway? Do you just buy lots then without asking 'Can I only buy peachy and lemondrop for example? I don't end any auctions on ebay, that i understand.
Thanks for explaining so far :)
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Regarding the unpleasantness of asking for an auction someone else already won, I remember someone - I think it was Ponyland? -talking about this almost happening to her one time. I think what happened was that she won the pony we think is one of the original FF pony prototypes, with the original symbol and such. And she paid for it. And then someone tried to get it by sending the seller higher offers. Fortunately the lot had already been shipped, so though the seller wanted to get it back, they couldn't. And the pony made it to her new home safely. But I agree with goddessofpeep, it's a truly disgusting behaviour.
Maybe that's what happened with my MIB baby Tic Tac Toe but I am not sure it was. It's very subtle, the difference between the UK and the US boxes, and you have to know what it is to spot it. The US one MIB is not so hard to find someone would take time to try and grab it, I don't think...but I've never seen another one since, so that one still rankles with its mysterious 'it went missing' scenario.
@Kingluke, I think Barnaclelady explained it really well, but just from an ebay perspective - and let's not forget that these are unspoken rules of etiquette built up over decades through which how Ebay functions has changed somewhat. But basically...
If someone lists an auction, then it's an auction. It's listed. That's it.
People don't always bid on auctions right away. They often add them to watch lists and bid at the end.
If you had your grail in your watchlist, then it vanished, got relisted without the grail pony in it - you'd probably be pretty upset.
So that's why it's something we don't do.
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I think a lot of confusion is stemming from whether the listing is an active auction, or just a “buy now” listing. If it’s the former and you contact the seller about selling an item privately to you, then that’s rude to the other bidders. However, if it’s just a “buy now” (no active bidders) and you ask the seller to sell one of the items separately, is that also taboo?
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I think a lot of confusion is stemming from whether the listing is an active auction, or just a “buy now” listing. If it’s the former and you contact the seller about selling an item privately to you, then that’s rude to the other bidders. However, if it’s just a “buy now” (no active bidders) and you ask the seller to sell one of the items separately, is that also taboo?
Yes, I also think there is some confusion because of these two listing types. If a seller has a "buy now" listing and you ask them if they would remove one item from the lot and sell it to you separately, I see no problem as long as the seller then immediately adjusts their listing, so that the now sold item isn't visible in any of the photos and isn't mentioned in the description anymore.
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I think that one may be subjective based on how you as an individual see ebay.
Personally for me it's the same thing, because you can equally have a BIN item on your list. And I include in that asking a seller to put a BIN on an active auction (which is a thing now). But those things are probably moral grey areas. Just because I'm an old school pony collector who has used ebay since it was all in $ and before BIN was a thing, I tend to see it all the same.
It's like sometimes people here list ebay stuff then offer the same things on the arena at discount. I don't personally like that, I'm uncomfortable with it because there will be people on ebay watching those items, maybe waiting for payday, only to have them vanish mysteriously without any explanation.
So for me it's the same thing. Unless the auction ends without bidders, and then you ask the seller to relist an item for you with a BIN. That's fine, so long as the sale happens through ebay and not privately. (The exception of course being if items were on ebay, and didn't sell, and were later listed at another place, like here. Those transactions can of course then happen directly through the Arena).
However I think other people will give different answers to that question.
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I think a lot of confusion is stemming from whether the listing is an active auction, or just a “buy now” listing. If it’s the former and you contact the seller about selling an item privately to you, then that’s rude to the other bidders. However, if it’s just a “buy now” (no active bidders) and you ask the seller to sell one of the items separately, is that also taboo?
Yes, I also think there is some confusion because of these two listing types. If a seller has a "buy now" listing and you ask them if they would remove one item from the lot and sell it to you separately, I see no problem as long as the seller then immediately adjusts their listing, so that the now sold item isn't visible in any of the photos and isn't mentioned in the description anymore.
Yes, that is what I think. I don't want to harm any other sellers by doing so however.
Post Merge: June 19, 2020, 09:04:27 AM
@Kingluke, I think Barnaclelady explained it really well, but just from an ebay perspective - and let's not forget that these are unspoken rules of etiquette built up over decades through which how Ebay functions has changed somewhat. But basically...
If someone lists an auction, then it's an auction. It's listed. That's it.
People don't always bid on auctions right away. They often add them to watch lists and bid at the end.
If you had your grail in your watchlist, then it vanished, got relisted without the grail pony in it - you'd probably be pretty upset.
So that's why it's something we don't do.
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Yeah that would really suck. I would never do that to somebody.
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Think of it like a retail store. You see something on the shelf you like. Maybe it's packaged in a basket with a promo VHS tape of "Fresh Prince of Bel-Air". XD Buy the whole basket, do not tear open the basket in the store, throw the VHS aside and ask to be sold just the one thing.
If the BIN has been listed, either Buy It Now or don't. Do NOT contact the seller unless it does not sell!
If it's an auction, either be the high bidder, or don't. do NOT contact the seller unless it does not sell!
Secondhand can be tricky. Some platforms operate like Ebay - so behave accordingly. If the seller is willing to break up the lot, that's their right to do so. But I feel it's much more fair to just buy the whole lot of ponies and then flip what I don't want.
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Think of it like a retail store. You see something on the shelf you like. Maybe it's packaged in a basket with a promo VHS tape of "Fresh Prince of Bel-Air". XD Buy the whole basket, do not tear open the basket in the store, throw the VHS aside and ask to be sold just the one thing.
If the BIN has been listed, either Buy It Now or don't. Do NOT contact the seller unless it does not sell!
If it's an auction, either be the high bidder, or don't. do NOT contact the seller unless it does not sell!
Secondhand can be tricky. Some platforms operate like Ebay - so behave accordingly. If the seller is willing to break up the lot, that's their right to do so. But I feel it's much more fair to just buy the whole lot of ponies and then flip what I don't want.
That does make a lot of sense, thank you.
I guess my days of buying certain ponies from lots are over. I don't want to do the (although it was unknowingly) wrong thing. Good thing I usually buy them loose anyway :)
I take it t is allowed to buy loose ponies from lots if the seller specifically states you can, right? Or is that also wrong?
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Think of it like a retail store. You see something on the shelf you like. Maybe it's packaged in a basket with a promo VHS tape of "Fresh Prince of Bel-Air". XD Buy the whole basket, do not tear open the basket in the store, throw the VHS aside and ask to be sold just the one thing.
If the BIN has been listed, either Buy It Now or don't. Do NOT contact the seller unless it does not sell!
If it's an auction, either be the high bidder, or don't. do NOT contact the seller unless it does not sell!
Secondhand can be tricky. Some platforms operate like Ebay - so behave accordingly. If the seller is willing to break up the lot, that's their right to do so. But I feel it's much more fair to just buy the whole lot of ponies and then flip what I don't want.
That does make a lot of sense, thank you.
I guess my days of buying certain ponies from lots are over. I don't want to do the (although it was unknowingly) wrong thing. Good thing I usually buy them loose anyway :)
I take it t is allowed to buy loose ponies from lots if the seller specifically states you can, right? Or is that also wrong?
If it's an ebay lot, or any other type of auction site, then it would be a no go. If it's a private seller listing on a classified site in your country, I dunno what the rules are. But a magazine ad or online ad for pony sales is not the same as a proper auction listing, so unless it's set up on ebay with the option to buy individual items rather than a lot, it's not a good idea.
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While I wasn’t selling a pony, I’ve personally had someone contact me on eBay asking me to sell them an item that the winner had already paid for. It was the Animal Crossing amiibo card for Tasha the Squirrel, and the buyer had already paid their $20 bid when someone sent me this message in its entirety:
Hello I fell asleep can I buy for 30$?? I really wanted
Sorry bud. I like extra cash, but as a wise person once said, “you snooze, you lose.”
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Well, consider me properly reformed :blush: I won't do it ever again.
You guys have all explained really well why it was a bad thing to do and it makes sense now. I guess I equated it to being at a yard sale, and someone had a basket of items with a sign saying $10 for the whole basket. Say, there's the VHS tape of Fresh Prince of Bel Air (just keeping with that as an example because I thought it was funny :lol:) in the basket, and I want it. By offering $5 for just the tape, and figuring the yard sale host can still sell the basket of items for $10, I figured I'd be helping the seller out by buying one thing, but still allowing them the potential to make their same desired amount on the remaining basket items. Not trying to justify...just trying to convey where my thought process was coming from and that it wasn't from a place of malevolence. I guess Ebay culture is just different than that of yard sales. Or perhaps the nature of selling collectables is different...maybe this is the first time I've dealt with buying anything on Ebay that is actually sought after.
Also, by doing what I did, there was the hope that if the lot didn't sell, the buyer would know I was interested in that piece and could possibly make arrangements to sell it in a separate BIN auction later.
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Back in November 2018, when I didn't have a single pony yet, I found a beautiful Wind Whistler put up for auction on eBay, with perfect pink hair and everything, but I got outbid literally during the last seconds, someone offered over £100 for her, for a brief second I was actually consireding trying to oudbid that but then I told myself "naw, I am not paying this much for a toy", and now I regret that decision. Luckily a few months ago I finally found a WW in great condition for about sixty euro but her hair isn't quite as pink as the other one's, as beautiful as it is. Sometimes I wonder how things would have gone if I had actually won that auction back then.
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If it's an ebay lot, or any other type of auction site, then it would be a no go. If it's a private seller listing on a classified site in your country, I dunno what the rules are. But a magazine ad or online ad for pony sales is not the same as a proper auction listing, so unless it's set up on ebay with the option to buy individual items rather than a lot, it's not a good idea.
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Yeah, you're right about ebay. I'm not sure on website outside of ebay, but i should have been clearer on the question.
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Exactly! Please check what you have, but then again, I love a good deal.
There's just no excuse to not be polite honestly. The seller i contacted was kind of to let me know the ponies were sold, so no hard feelings but people that can't do basic communication shouldn't really be sellers I think. (Or am I being to harsh here, idk?)
That version of bidding on yahoo sounds awful. i hope it doesn't happen to you.
No it's not harsh to say that people who can't communicate in a basic way shouldn't sell. The problem is that this behaviour cannot be blamed. And platforms that allow private selling don't care about the climate between their members at all. They say "be honest" but if nobody cares, what should happen? Nothing to be real.
Oh well I've had a few of these bidding wars. Getting my first Takara and my last one were the worst so far. But once you know it you can prepare.
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No it's not harsh to say that people who can't communicate in a basic way shouldn't sell. The problem is that this behaviour cannot be blamed. And platforms that allow private selling don't care about the climate between their members at all. They say "be honest" but if nobody cares, what should happen? Nothing to be real.
Oh well I've had a few of these bidding wars. Getting my first Takara and my last one were the worst so far. But once you know it you can prepare.
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Good to know i'm not being too harsh. This is so true. Who cares about buyers being ignored and sellers being stood up. As long as the website does well I suppose. I think I will stop looking at kijiji so often. Bad stuff happens there all the time. I was surprised at the fact Ii got a response. That shouldn't be the norm.
Being in the know is good. I'm glad you got yor takara's.
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Missed out on Baby Drummer, and Baby Whirly Twirl from the same seller.
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I missed out on a BIN lot on eBay which included Moon Jumper because, for some reason, my internet chose that precise moment to crash. And by the time it came back up the lot had of course been sold.
I think someone tried to offer a higher amount for a Mexican Cotton Candy to the seller, as they suddenly went very strange after I had won the auction and kept on telling me that the pony was in much worse condition than the photos showed and being very slow to respond to my messages. However they did eventually send her and I have always wondered because, in my opinion, she is actually good for a Mexican and I won her for a good price, being the only bidder. However I don't know for sure and perhaps they were just a really conscientious seller.