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Title: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: dragonfly on March 30, 2020, 08:42:10 AM
Hi guys,
Because the other thread is already massive, I am going to be locking the COVID-19 threads each weekend and starting a new one.
Links to old threads will be included.

We are a global community. Let's keep each other posted about the real state of events.

Discussion is welcome.
NO FEAR MONGERING

1. Where do you live?
2. What is the current climate like where you're at?
3. Are news reports coming from your area accurate or no? What is going on?
4. What are your questions and concerns?
5. What has your government / administration done to address this (please try to keep this as politics free as possible, it is fine to state whether you agree/disagree with their actions etc) and, in your opinion, how is it working? Ex: Shelter in place orders, curfews, closures
6. Is your job affected, if so, how?
7. How are you and your family doing??

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Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Ponyfan on March 30, 2020, 09:03:37 AM
We jumped to 51 cases in my county. 13 of these are all related to the nursing home. Also my county has had the first death from coronavirus (not my uncle. He lived in a different state.) 8 cases are confirmed to be carriers that did not have any symptoms. The youngest person infected is 10.

The  mayor issued a stay at home order last night. This is basically what we’ve been under for the last 2 weeks except social gatherings of any size are now not allowed. Some of the schools had planned teacher parades so students could watch from their houses as teachers drove by in their cars but those have been cancelled now. Parks and golf courses are still open to the public.

The governor has issued mandatory quarantine for people entering the state from Louisiana, California and New York.  The Louisiana quarantine also includes coming in by road. The governor will announce later this week if schools will be allowed to reopen.

Stores are enforcing limits on high demand items and it seems to working as most people are able to find what they need.

Ponyfan




 
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: lonewolf on March 30, 2020, 12:06:13 PM
Kansas is up to 368 and 8 deaths. The nursing home in Burlington now has 10 cases, and 3 in Emporia are connected to it too. My county is at 2 now (actually heard the ambulance call on my scanner this morning for the 2nd one). KC metro area is still leading, but Wichita is getting up there with 49 cases.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on March 30, 2020, 12:07:38 PM
1. I'm about an hour from Philly. We've hit over 4k cases statewide, and I'm nearing 250 cases in my county. Philadelphia has about 25% of the state's cases.
5. All PA schools have been closed indefinitely, I think the April 6th date was rather optimistic and unrealistic, but that may be because my college has closed for the rest of the semester. Our stay-at-home order has been extended to the end of April.
They've set up a makeshift medical center in one of the buildings at my campus in Philly in case they need to use it.
6. I work at a grocery store. We've closed our buffet areas down. We are still serving pizza, subs, and coffee but there are ropes in front of the sneeze glass to keep people further away. Lots of tape still everywhere. Anybody who was handing out samples before is either bagging for other cashiers or is part of a "clean team" and cleans off handles, knobs, anything people would be touching a lot. At the accounting office, we have put plastic guards in front of our windows in case other employees cough on us or something. (I find it annoying as it muffles my voice). We have to wear gloves when we pick up money from the registers still, we still have our handwashing sink in the office which helps ease worries.
I did walk around the store yesterday in search of snacks...I think toilet paper stocks are trickling back up as people who have bought giant rolls already feel less like they need to stock up on that. Lots of purchase restrictions in place in our baking aisle; various baking staples are "one per person". I wanted to buy a gluten free bagel for my break but we were all out of Udi's and only had very expensive ones, and we usually don't have stock issues in that section, so I think people without allergies or anything are buying the gluten free staples too...I didn't rely on it for food but I do worry about people dipping into food meant for those with health issues. I did see normal bread was out and our deli section has very few meats to cut, but that might be less stock and more of a mandate.
Because the state stores have closed people are hounding our wine and beer section.
7. My mom is a nurse...she works with post and pre birth (natal? i don't know lol) patients and has actually been cancelled a few times this past week because people aren't coming in for little issues anymore. I do feel for the parents giving birth in this time. I worry for my mother's safety but it isn't nagging, I do feel as if she would be fine.
My dad is still working from home. He has said that they've been discussing furloughing and letting go people... I worry for our economy too but I know health comes first.
Everything said, I guess this whole ordeal is sort of kicking me to look into consumer behavior masters degrees (among uncertainty of the job market heading out). It will certainly be interesting to study once it's all over.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: LadyMoondancer on March 30, 2020, 01:37:21 PM
Just want to say:  please take this seriously even if your county currently doesn't have any known cases.  Skagit County (WA) didn't have any known cases until someone who wasn't showing symptoms unknowingly took it to their choir practice in early March, and then all of a sudden 45 of the 60 choir members caught coronavirus. Two died.

Anyway, Washington state currently has 4,896 confirmed cases and 195 deaths.  The good news is that the stay-at-home order is indeed slowing the rate of transmission.  CenturyLink sports field (where the Seahawks play) is being converted into a field hospital since the regular hospitals are overwhelmed.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Taffeta on March 30, 2020, 02:48:53 PM
I - and I think most people in the UK - are taking everything day by day.

We went walking this morning, everyone was practicing the distance keeping very well and being considerate in our local area. Some stories hitting the press of stupid people and of overzealous police doing mad things like dying water black...but on the whole people seem to be complying. Unfortunately all govt public transport stats were for TFL which doesn't help the rest of the country.

They're still saying more testing is needed here, but the testing is increasing so that's something I guess. The scientists are still not panicked by the figures/rises/data being gathered at the moment so I want to take that as a hopeful sign if we can keep it up going forward.

Some positive news about progress made by UK manufacturers in terms of ventilators and other breathing apparatus, one of which may be ready to go fairly soon if needed.

Estimates 1 in 10 hospital beds occupied potentially atm by Coronavirus patients, NHS not at capacity but some areas of London becoming stretched. Birmingham second most concentrated cases. That's not so very far away and I'm pretty sure the reason we have as many cases as we do in this county/district area is because there are a lot of people here with family/friends/jobs/studies in Birmingham or the Black Country.

Unfortunately more localised intel not available so it's hard to know how much any of this is impacting my direct neighbourhood. All we know is there are cases at the local hospital about a mile away.

Saw Trump's press conference last night as well. Glad that the US have some kind of an extension on the lockdown and hope it helps turn back the tide there soon.

Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: BlackCurtains on March 30, 2020, 04:45:59 PM
Florida is an absolute mess.

We're up to 5,704 cases and 71 deaths.

The biggest problem is that the governor won't issue a stay-at-home order. Some cities have done it themselves but the airports are still open and people are still coming in. Four passengers from New York were asked (not told) to self quarantine for 14 days. You know they won't because they are here to party. This is the big "no rules" right now party state.

Some cities have started closing the boat docks because people won't stay off the beaches and islands. Of course, this angers people who want to fish and I'm sure there are a lot of innocent folks who just want to go out on their boats, but what else can they do? People (mostly the tourists!) aren't listening. Ft. Myers is thinking about locking down and issuing fines for people but we'll see if they follow through.

Even in my own family people can't stay home. My dad still leaves every morning, though I don't know what the heck he is doing because McDonald's is drive thru only, unless he is getting coffee and visiting with his friends in the parking lot (you would think the restaurant wouldn't allow this though), I don't know. My niece is visiting from Missouri and can't go home because of course Missouri is locked down, so she and her mom (my sister) have been going places and doing things every day! Like... what is wrong with you?? Stay home!
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Ponyfan on March 30, 2020, 06:31:08 PM
My county just confirmed 26 new cases. This is starting to worry me as we’ve gone from relatively low numbers of new cases to jumping up by double digits for the last 3 days.

Restaurants are supposed to takeout/curbside only but a few have been found that were still allowing people to sit inside.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: banditpony on March 31, 2020, 04:21:53 AM
My county just confirmed 26 new cases. This is starting to worry me as we’ve gone from relatively low numbers of new cases to jumping up by double digits for the last 3 days.

Restaurants are supposed to takeout/curbside only but a few have been found that were still allowing people to sit inside.


Ponyfan

Rule of thumb is that it roughly doubles every 3-5 days, I believe. Whatever they have numberwise is not a good representation, because they aren't testing a lot of people.

Try not to worry a lot. Just don't go out unless you need to, and treat everyone like they have it as they could be asymptomatic. At best, we only can do our part... you know.

Do you have any orders in place for your city or state? If so, are there any penalties for those who eat inside of restaurants. Police? Health Dept? If you do, I'd take a picture and tell someone.


Locally...
Battelle finally got full FDA approval, so they are distributing machines that can sterilize masks.

Nothing really major new happening. Hospitals are prepping for the surge, and I don't go out to know what's happening on the outside. Most people I know are taking it seriously though, young and old.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Minty_Magic on March 31, 2020, 06:18:14 AM
Over 1000 cases in Arizona and 20 deaths. Nearly 700 of the cases are in my county, which makes sense since it’s by far the most populated county here.

Our governor has issued a stay at home order that goes into effect at 5pm tonight. Except it doesn’t really do anything at all. Some of the “essential” businesses on the list that will remain open are beauty salons and golf courses. :pout: Golf is not an essential business right now. Also there will be no enforcement of it. You don’t need to provide any reason for going out. I appreciate that I can still go for walks around the neighborhood, but we really need to do more. I’m extremely disappointed in this order because if it was a proper stay at home order we might have been able to flatten the curve. With this I fear people will continue to go and not practice social distancing. I’ve stopped going to the parks around here because everyone is packing into them and definitely not practicing being apart. :(
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on March 31, 2020, 07:40:59 AM
Utah announced 2 more deaths yesterday.  One was a 77-year old man, the other was a 24-year old woman with type 2 diabetes who'd had heart surgery 2 years ago.  Her dad had symptoms first and then other people in the family got sick and she and her mother were admitted to the hospital but she just didn't pull through it.  So now the father is urging everyone to take it seriously and stay home because he never thought it would happen to him or his family.

I've got another co-worker who's out for 2 weeks because of a cough.  if we show any symptoms we're being told to stay home for 2 weeks regardless of what we might actually have, even if we are sure it is only allergies.  So far we haven't had anyone at my workplace confirmed to have COVID-19 but better to take precautions than not.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Wardah on March 31, 2020, 08:37:40 AM
Over 1000 cases in Arizona and 20 deaths. Nearly 700 of the cases are in my county, which makes sense since it’s by far the most populated county here.

Our governor has issued a stay at home order that goes into effect at 5pm tonight. Except it doesn’t really do anything at all. Some of the “essential” businesses on the list that will remain open are beauty salons and golf courses. :pout: Golf is not an essential business right now. Also there will be no enforcement of it. You don’t need to provide any reason for going out. I appreciate that I can still go for walks around the neighborhood, but we really need to do more. I’m extremely disappointed in this order because if it was a proper stay at home order we might have been able to flatten the curve. With this I fear people will continue to go and not practice social distancing. I’ve stopped going to the parks around here because everyone is packing into them and definitely not practicing being apart. :(

I don't like golf but it is something that could be played while socially distancing unlike most other sports. Just as long as you limit it to going by yourself or with people you live with. However beauty salons are really risky and I'm surprised they are staying open.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Ponyfan on March 31, 2020, 01:14:54 PM
My county just confirmed 26 new cases. This is starting to worry me as we’ve gone from relatively low numbers of new cases to jumping up by double digits for the last 3 days.

Restaurants are supposed to takeout/curbside only but a few have been found that were still allowing people to sit inside.


Ponyfan

Rule of thumb is that it roughly doubles every 3-5 days, I believe. Whatever they have numberwise is not a good representation, because they aren't testing a lot of people.

Try not to worry a lot. Just don't go out unless you need to, and treat everyone like they have it as they could be asymptomatic. At best, we only can do our part... you know.

Do you have any orders in place for your city or state? If so, are there any penalties for those who eat inside of restaurants. Police? Health Dept? If you do, I'd take a picture and tell someone.


We are in a city wide shelter in place. Someone did report the restaurants that were allowing people to sit inside and also that people were not following the no social gathering guidelines in the parks. City police will now be checking on restaurants and parks to make sure everyone is following the rules.

Schools are now closed until May 4th.


Ponyfan   
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: lonewolf on March 31, 2020, 02:17:34 PM
Kansas is now up to 428 and 9 deaths, and my county is up to 3 now.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Koudoawaia on March 31, 2020, 02:32:33 PM
In KY we're now up to 591 cases when it was 480 yesterday...so possibly our biggest jump in a day..plus 7 more deaths
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Taffeta on March 31, 2020, 05:26:20 PM
That is possibly the most serious press conference I've ever seen Trump give, not least giving so much time to his science people. Nice to see that US universities working with Imperial as well on the modelling, gives a sense of this as a truly global battle going on against this thing. It's pretty much the same modelling the globe over with everyone trying to beat the curve, but it seems weird that it's only just being presented at a WH conference now.

On the subject of UK ventilator numbers, not sure why Dr Birx mentioned it, because the modelling here suggests a best case death toll 10x lower than the US, and a worst case death toll 9x lower than the US. So it's all relative. You need more ventilators. You have more people - 5x more. More people spread more disease more easily. It's not rocket science, it's just logistics. (Although I do hope that the govt are going to get the extras they are talking about, because, you know, it never hurts xD).

In the UK - health people still positive despite jump in the death figures, they've been pretty blunt with us from the start in that it takes time to bring down numbers and the first one to come down is infections...last one is always deaths :/ so it's going to be grim everywhere for a while. But one thing most people in the UK agree on is the importance of the NHS, and I think that's helping people stay home.

Though one theory for the jump is one of the labs is closed over the weekend. *sigh*. Efficiency. It happened last week as well though so may well be the reason. The number of new cases is not hugely higher than the last few days which the science people think is a very very faint good sign and at least makes us feel like sitting at home means something, even if it's a false positive or just the very first steps.

Also no new casualties in my local area, although numbers in the midlands overall are going up, the spread seems to be getting higher in Birmingham and now Worcestershire which is still west mids but moving away from here.

Some people theorising spikes in Wolverhampton and Liverpool may connect to European football games played against Spanish teams in the European cups before the lockdown of sport - it's certainly true that 3000 Spanish fans were in Liverpool for that game with nobody seeming that bothered about it, and Wolves were playing at Espanyol so people would've been over there as well - another 3000. It's a bit of a no brainer and should never have happened. It was questioned at the time (the Liverpool game anyway) by the media, but nobody thought it should be called off :/

The Wolves game could also explain some of the numbers here because a lot of Wolves fans spill over to this area as well.

UK has still not closed its borders, don't expect it to close them either.

Talk of an app to track people like in Singapore and Korea, you can imagine how popular that is with the UK population already fearful of big brother/police state measures (as some bits of govt lockdown are being seen). There have been some bizarre moments where police have tried to stop people buying easter eggs as they are 'not essential' even though the new law does not specify what food can be bought.

In sad news a 13 year old boy died in hospital in London of the virus, with no known underlying health condition.

Just a heads up that yes, kids can get this and they can get it badly enough to die of it, even if it is rare, so it's really important they have the same level of safety instruction as everyone else.

Now I'm just curious to see whether the ventilators they keep talking about Dyson and JCB etc making actually come into production and use...
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Ponyfan on March 31, 2020, 07:37:20 PM
The latest numbers for my county were released 100 total cases and 2 deaths. We were at 77 cases yesterday.



Ponyfan
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Barnacle_lady on April 01, 2020, 08:06:39 AM
The latest up here that schools, restaurants and gyms stay closed until April 28. And a week before it will be told if its going to take any longer.  The government also offers to pay the salaries of affected companies as long as they don't fire people.
And our death figure has gone up very fast. We are now at 1173 deaths. Every day they tell us the numbers of that day but it seems that not everyone is reported the same day people die.
4 more weeks at home, not cool. I am used to stay home with jobs on and off. But normally there are stores open and public transport rides a normal schedule. The only trip I have is to the supermarket where I have to be lucky to get inside because limited people are allowed. And to one of my friends. We started to cook for each other since there are no restaurants open.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Taffeta on April 01, 2020, 09:18:45 AM
Not wholly different here from what's going on in the NL.

Numbers are up here again but we've been told to expect it to continue to do that over the next couple of weeks.
2 new deaths in the local NHS trust. But an article in the local media from one of the people active at the top of our NHS trust - we apparently have equipment, and are doing fine so far, and most importantly patients are recovering and being discharged, even though the govt are not releasing those stats.

Local colleges in the midlands are gathering science gear like goggles to send out to hospitals to boost their ppe. Local food outlets/catering companies are making food for nhs staff, are allowing public to sponsor a meal for nhs workers which is keeping the business running as well as supporting the people on the front line.

Production of domestic new ventilators and CPAP devices meant to go into process this week. CPAP ones already have clearance. Not sure the ventilators do yet but they're projecting 10,000 to be produced.

A lot of questions about testing, PPE and business support still.

In the Midlands the leaders from Muslim communities are urging their people to stay home after they've been continuing to gather despite the closure of shops. The Black Country, Birmingham and surrounds have large ethnic communities and there's a very real concern they're being hit disproportionately hard because of the cultural community nature.

Lockdown is starting to get to my mother. We're having so much trouble getting shopping slots because of the demand as well, but I'm going to keep persevering since up to now I'm the only one who's managed to get us slots.

Oh, and our washing machine is basically at death's door. Been saying for MONTHS it needs looking at., Now we're going to have to have someone come on Friday INTO THE HOUSE to look at it, and none of us are happy about it, but it's a bit unavoidable.

Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: lonewolf on April 01, 2020, 01:40:59 PM
Kansas is up to 482, but still at 10 deaths.
This  would usually be a story the news would ignore, but because of what the truck was carrying... https://www.wibw.com/content/news/Truck-hauling-toilet-paper-catches-fire-on-Texas-interstate--569289371.html
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Taffeta on April 01, 2020, 03:23:54 PM
Managed to get a delivery slot.

The excitement is like winning an ebay auction.

Seriously.

Is delivery as crazy in other countries right now?
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Ponyfan on April 01, 2020, 04:03:14 PM
New numbers for my county. 108 cases, 3 deaths and 10 people recovered from the virus.

A daycare is now a possible exposure site.

The hoarding seems to have slowed down but stores are still out of flour, rubbing alcohol and a few other things. There are police in the stores to make sure people don't try to buy more than the limit.

My parents have starting wearing gloves when they go to the store and more people are wearing first aid masks(not the N95 ones)

I have been extra careful about touching my face and have been using my hand sanitizer more often. I used it quite a few times today when I went to the store. I also wash more hands more. 

I tried to maintain safe social distancing when I went to the store but even though I avoid getting close to other people a few people still passed really close to me.

Officially the city's stay at home order is supposed to end Friday but I think the mayor will extend it. 


Ponyfan






 
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: toyjunky on April 01, 2020, 04:21:05 PM
Southern California (Orange County area)

State:9,551 cases/206 deaths
County: 606 cases/10 deaths
City: 56 cases

What has changed in the last 24 hours:
1) Governor Newsom and California’s schools chief  Tony Thurmond have recommended that schools be closed physically (online distance learning only) for the remainder of the school year (press conference was today). Official announcements are already starting to be made today from the local school districts in our city acknowledging the physical closure for remainder of the school year (to be clear, schools are open, just online access only from home which has now been extended).

2)Some grocery stores are starting to hand out free bags.(yay)
Instead of having to pay for one or have people bring their own and have the clerks bag them.

Okay, so personally I always viewed this as a dynamic when we were forced into the reusable bags a year ago. Especially now though, it definitely brings up a point of why the whole reusable bags thing is problematic. People handle them at home, then hand them to clerks, then hand them back, etc (makes for a giant germ factory for all involved).
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: mlp4me on April 01, 2020, 06:26:45 PM
Northeast Wisconsin, near Green Bay.
 We continue with toilet paper shortages...

More people outside walking. Distance seems to be sinking in for most people. Our carrier in this area went on a cruise to Greece and came back... so far we're at 12 confirmed cases in my county all by communal spread. Unsure how many tests pending in state.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Gator on April 01, 2020, 06:50:08 PM
I don't know why we didn't find out sooner, maybe they were trying to hide it, but my dad's cousin and wife had/have covid 19.  He said his wife was very sick but they are both improving.  That's all we've been told, but at least they are on the mend.  So, yeah, really starting to hit closer to home.  Georgia, USA to go into shelter in place tomorrow or Friday, I forget which.  But of course I still have to work.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: LadyMoondancer on April 01, 2020, 08:40:31 PM
My mom is taking the pandemic pretty seriously, but all the same today she was telling me how she gave her friend Dorothy some extra soup she had, and another friend brought her over some extra mac & cheese . . . These people are all 70+, they should be hunkered down, not going out.  I guess this is what it feels like to be a parent to your parent.

In other news, I had a sore throat today and slight shortness of breath, so I might be coming down with coronavirus.  I'm already telecommuting and staying away from everyone, so I'll keep doing that unless it becomes worse.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Taffeta on April 02, 2020, 07:32:27 AM
Stay safe and take care, LM. Hope you feel better soon (whatever it is).

UK update. 4300ish new cases, 569 new deaths, none of the latter in my immediate health trust area (whose total death tally is currently combined at 14, its no longer known which of those apply to our hospital and which to the wider county).

They're not pretty numbers but I take some comfort they're not stupidly higher than yesterday.

Because the UK is four countries, that total is all four combined. Separate stats are like this:

163 thousand ish tests done. 33,718 positive results. 2921 people overall have died after testing positive for coronavirus.

Important notes:
Spoiler
as PHE people have admitted, we don't know how many died OF covid19 since no post mortems are done and the stats are being conflated unhelpfully between people who died OF it and people who died WITH it.
UK are currently only testing patients who require hospital admission/care, so no mild cases are being tested unless there's a specific risk/reason for them to be done. Hence there are almost certainly 10x as many mild cases in the community that are not included in the statistics. Health care workers are now being tested but I am not sure the % that comprises.
The UK does not release figures of those recovered and discharged from hospital, so this number is unknown. However official number of cases being treated in hospital is somewhere just over 12,000, so maybe it can be guessed about 20,000 people have recovered or are recovering at home.

In context, the overall UK population is a little bigger than Italy and 20+ million bigger than Spain, smaller than France and Germany and about 5x smaller than the US, people are NOT evenly distributed between the devolved nations and the most populous area is the South East. London has about 7 or 8 million people, the second biggest city Birmingham has just over 1 million..

England: 28,221 cases, 2698 deaths (population 53 million)

Scotland: 2602 cases, 126 deaths (population 5.3 million)
https://www.gov.scot/coronavirus-covid-19/
Wales: 2121 cases, 117 deaths (population 3.1 million)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-51888681
NI: 774 cases, 36 deaths (population 1.8 million)
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-updates-six-further-deaths-in-northern-ireland-and-85-new-covid-19-cases-39096431.html

I give the data because it might explain why there are some concerns at the moment about the rise in Wales.  Which is not great where I am because on the one side we have the rising curve of Birmingham and the West Mids and on the other, Wales. Yay.

The last 2 days have seen 4000+ cases but I looked at the calendar and realised these are also cases that would have probably happened right around the time before/at full lockdown/as a result of the mad weekend everyone decided to go to beaches and stuff to enjoy the sun (Sigh). So it's still at a point before we see whether lockdown actually made a difference.

Stores are starting to get antsy about what is essential in shopping.

Much pressure on govt atm to increase testing esp of NHS staff which has at least begun.

Boris still apparently sick. Health secretary back from isolation and giving today's press conference. He seems pretty well recovered.

 I'm not a huge fan of this govt but listening to Hancock is better than Gove, Jenrick or Sharma attempting to talk about stuff they don't know. Although when he said "the third pillar" and held up two fingers, I began to despair a little...

Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: brightberry on April 02, 2020, 11:48:46 AM
Our county now enforces social distancing with penalties of $1000 fine or jail time.  The county police are going to stores & parks and announcing it over megaphone in parking lots. 

And yet, I still see people out in groups and people shopping with their partners. So, I suspect there will be tickets given and lots of angry citizens.

I do wonder how they'll practice social distancing in jail.


Edit:
I do agree with the new policy.  Our county hospitals are not big enough to deal with a large number of sick people and the neighboring counties have their own to deal with.  Some people just don't understand how dangerous a situation they could be in if they need hospital care.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Koudoawaia on April 02, 2020, 02:39:02 PM
770 cases in Kentucky now with out of state travelers required to quarantine for 14 days before they can go anywhere.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: lonewolf on April 02, 2020, 03:10:07 PM
Kansas is now up to 552 cases and 13 deaths.
You can't help but feel hopeless when you hear what the forecasted amount of deaths in the US is.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Galactica on April 02, 2020, 03:19:08 PM
Things are still on lockdown in Seattle - but at least supposedly the number of new cases is now starting to slow, so I guess finally the forced closure of businesses and parks is working.

I think the boomers are having the worst time complying.  My co-workers in their 60s brushed this thing off as a "mild flu" and shook their finger at those of us wanting to share information and encourage working from home as "fear mongerers."    Until the facts could no longer be denied- and even now there are a few of them that I KNOW are sneaking back into the office to work...

Even worse are my parents who should know better.  They are in their late 60s and my dad has 2 "underlying health conditions" that could impact his mortality rate.  And when I call, my mom says they are being good and staying isolated-   but then they just texted me how they got bored and went to Costco and they are remarking on the long lines????
JUST this last weekend my dad went out on a motorcycle-riding trip with his buddies.  My Mom and dad say "oh it's great because they are not socializing just riding around."  But what about when they talk ?  I know my dad and the friends he is hanging out with and I promise you they are NOT staying 6' apart from each other.

 >_<   It drives me bonkers.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Wardah on April 02, 2020, 04:21:59 PM
Our county now enforces social distancing with penalties of $1000 fine or jail time.  The county police are going to stores & parks and announcing it over megaphone in parking lots. 

And yet, I still see people out in groups and people shopping with their partners. So, I suspect there will be tickets given and lots of angry citizens.

I do wonder how they'll practice social distancing in jail.


Edit:
I do agree with the new policy.  Our county hospitals are not big enough to deal with a large number of sick people and the neighboring counties have their own to deal with.  Some people just don't understand how dangerous a situation they could be in if they need hospital care.

People who live together are still allowed to go out together. If I see a group of less than 5 I usually assume they must live together. It's bigger groups that are obviously not living together that need to be stopped.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: brightberry on April 02, 2020, 05:21:45 PM
Our county now enforces social distancing with penalties of $1000 fine or jail time.  The county police are going to stores & parks and announcing it over megaphone in parking lots. 

And yet, I still see people out in groups and people shopping with their partners. So, I suspect there will be tickets given and lots of angry citizens.

I do wonder how they'll practice social distancing in jail.


Edit:
I do agree with the new policy.  Our county hospitals are not big enough to deal with a large number of sick people and the neighboring counties have their own to deal with.  Some people just don't understand how dangerous a situation they could be in if they need hospital care.

People who live together are still allowed to go out together. If I see a group of less than 5 I usually assume they must live together. It's bigger groups that are obviously not living together that need to be stopped.

Not where I live.  It doesn't matter if they live together.  When outside the home, they must be 6 feet apart.  I'm sure small children are ok with their parents.  But otherwise it makes sense.  How would an officer know if they are living together or not?
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Ponyfan on April 02, 2020, 07:22:09 PM
I hope you feel better soon LadyMoondancer.


117 cases, 3 deaths and 12 people recovered in my county.  A friend of mine that works retail said that her dr told her today that she probably has the virus but she wasn't sick enough to be tested. The dr told her to isolate herself for 2 weeks, wipe down everything she touches with disinfecting wipes or rubbing alcohol and not to take ibuprofen. 

The child at the daycare tested negative but another nursing home is now an infected site.

In my city the mayor made it clear that families that live together don't count in the no social gathering rules but we should still maintain social distancing in public.

The weather was really nice today. There is a small park  a few blocks from my house and I thought about walking there but turned around before I got all the way to the park.

Someone has rewritten "Go to the Distance" from Disney's Hercules as "I Will Social Distance"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQDZqNmcaqc


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: brightberry on April 02, 2020, 10:45:16 PM

Someone has rewritten "Go to the Distance" from Disney's Hercules as "I Will Social Distance"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQDZqNmcaqc


Ponyfan

That is so adorable! And he sounds really good!
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Taffeta on April 03, 2020, 12:17:47 AM
I posted it in the decomp thread but a family here did a very funny lockdown song to one more day from les mis.

Here people who live together don't need to social distance but if one has symptoms all must isolate.

Shopping however is meant to be done alone.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Barnacle_lady on April 03, 2020, 02:31:05 AM
This weekend is going to be very warm and people are asked, please stay at home. I am curious who will do that. With the upcoming Easter weekend the tourists are asked, please don't come to Holland. The toilets and showers are closed.
As I write this one of my neighbour friends hears a car parade driving by for her birthday. She is sick so she was not able to receive any visitors or go out herself to somewhere. The whole street was watching.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Artemesia's Garden on April 03, 2020, 04:01:21 AM


Even worse are my parents who should know better.  They are in their late 60s and my dad has 2 "underlying health conditions" that could impact his mortality rate.  And when I call, my mom says they are being good and staying isolated-   but then they just texted me how they got bored and went to Costco and they are remarking on the long lines????
JUST this last weekend my dad went out on a motorcycle-riding trip with his buddies.  My Mom and dad say "oh it's great because they are not socializing just riding around."  But what about when they talk ?  I know my dad and the friends he is hanging out with and I promise you they are NOT staying 6' apart from each other.

 >_<   It drives me bonkers.

I've had the same problem with my parents. I ended up posting in WYP because it was driving me so nuts.

No updates here really, except the death figures are still doubling every 3 - 4 days. I think the police have softened up on driving to go exercise since it was never actually *not* allowed, and as others have said can exercise in groups of people living together. I mainly see this happening. There are  alot more people out during the day taking exercise but they are doing social distancing from othes/other groups. The reporters are saying there is more traffic on the road again but I think that people were very scared about driving over the first couple of days and are now doing what's necessary, so I don't predict those numbers to rise again.

The worst story at the moment is lack of PPE for care home workers where they are employed to support children in care, adults with learning difficulties, the elderly etc but can't do this while maintaining 'social distance'. There are a lot of good stories about people mobilising to deliver food to the elderly and companies donating PPE etc.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: BlackCurtains on April 03, 2020, 08:34:33 AM
Gov. DeSantis finally issued a stay-at-home order but only for SE Florida (Miami and area). Meanwhile, those counties that didn't have any cases that he used as an excuse to not lockdown the state are slowly getting infected. Great foresight and all that -_-

There are two quarantined cruise ships docked somewhere on the east coast.

Case numbers as of this morning are 9,585 and 163 deaths. Over 1200 people hospitalized. I can't find recovery info anywhere, just test results. There've been 82,000 negative tests. They are only testing people with symptoms, so that's a whole lotta people with regular flu or something else not Covid-19 though.

My dad, sister and niece continue to ignore staying at home. None of them are sick but I feel it's only a matter of time.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: lonewolf on April 03, 2020, 01:35:42 PM
Kansas is at 620 and 17 deaths now. The number of cases at the nursing home in Burlington continues to grow, and one of the cases in my county is connected to it.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on April 03, 2020, 04:17:37 PM
Gov. DeSantis finally issued a stay-at-home order but only for SE Florida (Miami and area). Meanwhile, those counties that didn't have any cases that he used as an excuse to not lockdown the state are slowly getting infected. Great foresight and all that -_-

There are two quarantined cruise ships docked somewhere on the east coast.

Case numbers as of this morning are 9,585 and 163 deaths. Over 1200 people hospitalized. I can't find recovery info anywhere, just test results. There've been 82,000 negative tests. They are only testing people with symptoms, so that's a whole lotta people with regular flu or something else not Covid-19 though.

My dad, sister and niece continue to ignore staying at home. None of them are sick but I feel it's only a matter of time.

Johns Hopkins map shows the total recovered, also by country but it doesn't appear to show recovered by state, just the whole USA etc.

It looks like worldwide we've had 225,519 recover. In the USA it shows 9,521 have recovered.

I don't know what it would be at the granular level as far as, per state or is the 9000 only people who were hospitalized or is that total regardless of if you did or didn't go to the hospital. Obviously the number is probably larger because we're constantly being told that some people never went to the hospital or even reported it to a doctor, back when it first started some folks could have easily just assumed they had the cold or flu, got better and moved on without ever knowing it was a big deal.

So, our herd immunity is potentially larger than what we're seeing in the numbers. So on one level, it's hard not to focus on the deaths because it looks scary but I think a lot of people seem to get better. And hopefully since younger people and kids are not quite effected as badly then this might faze out since the younger population that is exposed can protect the rest of us in future.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Ponyfan on April 03, 2020, 07:33:31 PM
Here's the latest from where I live. The city's stay at home order has been extended to April 30th. Tonight's totals for coronavirus are 138 cases, 4 deaths and 20 recovered.

In the US all Target and Walmart stores will start enforcing social distancing and limiting the amount of people that can be inside the store at one time. The CDC is now recommending everyone wear non medical face masks/coverings while in public.

I found out my uncle's test for coronavirus officially came back negative but the doctors told the family that they think his test was a false negative because he had all of the symptoms. Also 5 people in one of the last places he went before he went to the hospital now have coronavirus. 


Ponyfan

Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: LadyMoondancer on April 03, 2020, 08:27:04 PM
The University of Washington has produced a data model that predicts the expected peak of the coronavirus by state:

http://covid19.healthdata.org/projections

Obviously this isn't set in stone, it's a model, etc, but it's based on the data that has been gathered state by state, and the measures each state has taken, up to this point in time.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: banditpony on April 03, 2020, 08:46:17 PM
ETA:
forgot to mention, I believe we had a 14% increase in confirmed cases. Which seems ok to me. I know my state is working hard on preparing for the surge. And everything is pretty clear on what their plans are.

Our stay at home order is lengthened for about a month, and there are some tighter restrictions like all open businesses need to only allow so many people in at a time. Which we'll see how that goes. I heard some big box stores are going to do that anyway.

---

Regarding recovery in the US...

Not all states have reported their recovery numbers. I know Ohio hasn't, and I can't recall the reason, though they said they'd share as soon as they can. It doesn't appear that FL has released their recovery numbers. Some people are taking up to 16 days in the hospital to recover. 

6,222 NY. 582 WA. 528 TX. 410 MN. Are the big ones I see right away.

The University of Washington has produced a data model that predicts the expected peak of the coronavirus by state:

http://covid19.healthdata.org/projections

Obviously this isn't set in stone, it's a model, etc, but it's based on the data that has been gathered state by state, and the measures each state has taken, up to this point in time.

In regard to my state, the dept of health director said that model didn't have all of the info for Ohio (and that they'd give them that info-- this was 4 days ago, but it seems similar). I like this more then the other one I've seen. a mid-april peak would be lovely...

I guess that is a statistical model, there is also epidemiological models out there. :) We were told neither are wrong.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: LadyMoondancer on April 03, 2020, 09:03:49 PM
A lot of people will recover.  (Three of my friends have had suspected coronavirus--not possible to get a test unless you have severe symptoms or are a medical professional--and recovered.)

The problem is a small percentage of a HUGE number is also a huge number.  Hospitals only have so many ICUs.  Other illnesses and accidents will continue to happen, which also require ICUs.  So hospitals are at risk of getting overwhelmed.

Eventually we'll reach a point where we have herd immunity (or get a vaccine to provide immunity), but we're not there yet.  The less protections are in place (like ordering people to stay home) the faster it spreads.

Here are Florida's numbers:

March 1st - 2 cases
March 10th - 28 cases
March 20th - 563 cases
March 30th - 5,704 cases
April 3rd - 10,268 cases

That is some WILD exponential growth.

Edit:  As far as Washington's recovery numbers, definitely not accurate because they just don't have enough tests to test everyone.  People who get tested are medical workers, people with severe symptoms, and I believe some people who've had contact with a confirmed COVID carrier.  Our governor, Govenor Inslee, started taking the situation seriously pretty quickly.  Our cases are still increasing, but the rate of infection is slowing.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: BlackCurtains on April 04, 2020, 04:44:42 AM
Here are Florida's numbers:

March 1st - 2 cases
March 10th - 28 cases
March 20th - 563 cases
March 30th - 5,704 cases
April 3rd - 10,268 cases

That is some WILD exponential growth.

Well, that's scary.

Apparently, I missed one of DeSantis' conferences and he has ordered stay-at-home for the whole state. It must have come only a day or two after he said it was just for SE Florida. But you know, things have been so flimsy here that I doubt people are going to follow it very well.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Minty_Magic on April 04, 2020, 05:46:49 AM
Our governor gave into today and revised his stay at home order to exclude beauty salons, tattoo parlors, and massage parlors from his essential business list. Rumor has it he declared them an essential business because his wife owns a hair salon. I don’t know if that’s true, frankly the whole thing was super lax in a lot of places. Public swimming pools also had to be revised to say they’re non essential.

I just saw a commercial for a jewelry shop that said they were open and declared an essential business by our governor. :pout: Clearly we have some more revisions to go, right now our shelter in place order is a joke. I hope it’s enough to flatten the curve a little at least.

I also got some face masks for my family off Etsy. I got one a couple days ago and while I know it doesn’t filter out everything I do feel better having it. Especially knowing that if I’m a carrier and don’t know it I’m not spreading it as much when I have to go out. If nothing else it has helped IMMENSELY with my allergies! I might just be one of those people that wears a face mask all the time.  :lol:
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on April 04, 2020, 08:11:29 AM
Our governor has urged us to wear cloth masks when leaving our homes to protect others. I haven't seen anyone else wear them but I do have some pony and other fun fabric that I could use to make some masks should my work requires it, but I don't interact with many people at work. If my mom sews us ones regardless, I'll wear it sooner rather than later.
I'm seeing people are definitely taking his measure seriously which is good.
If nothing else it has helped IMMENSELY with my allergies! I might just be one of those people that wears a face mask all the time.  :lol:
I was actually curious to see if mask wearing would become much more widespread once this is all over?
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Ponyfan on April 04, 2020, 09:21:30 AM
I went to Walmart today to get food. They have a one way in, one way out line set up at the grocery entrance and exit. There are employees counting how many people come in and leave the store.  I was a little worried I might have to stand in line outside for a while but when I went the store wasn't at maximum capacity yet.

I wore a bandana over my mouth and nose. I saw a lot more people wearing masks/face coverings than I did last time. Eventually I noticed I was breathing heavier due to breathing through the bandana. I have asthma and had to use my inhaler after I took the bandana off.


Ponnyfan
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: bright rabbit 1 on April 04, 2020, 12:01:50 PM
A five year old boy had died because of COVID-19 here in the U.K the youngest one yet.

U.K Death Total :  4313
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Taffeta on April 04, 2020, 12:18:12 PM
I remember when I was in Japan, there was very high use of masks in the spring because of hay fever, because apparently it helped with allergies. I have allergies but for some reason they didn't kick off when I was in Japan...*shrug*. I have the remains of one pack of masks from Japan but we're still being told there isn't a lot of point in people who aren't culturally used to wearing masks wearing them since it can still get in the eyes, and people tend to reuse/fidget with masks if they are not used to them. Also reusing the same fabric mask without washing it can actually increase the spread because you're touching it and then touching a surface...

I do see the point if you are a carrier but then again if you are keeping yourself away from other people, you aren't at risk of spreading it to anyone.

UK numbers are going up but very slowly thus far this week. But they are worried if people disobey the stay at home this weekend it could extend everything for a longer period. We don't know yet whether the army of stupid people are trying to invade beaches or not this weekend like they did two weekends ago (which is what made Boris shut down the country more firmly and allow police to stop people) but I guess we'll see.

The experts did say that they would have expected the death toll and cases rate to be higher today than it's proven to be. A lot of talk still about testing though - because we are still trying to scale that up.

The hospital admission rate and death rate in London has dropped a little. Here in the Midlands though today it went up almost 50%. This wider region is now the hotspot although mostly not in THIS county but the NHS trusts in the regions over (Staffs, Black Country, Wolves and Birmingham in particular, Birmingham's QE hospital has had the most deaths inthe country from Covid so far).

...BUT on the positive.

The MOD base not far from me has a stockpile now of newly made ventilators based on an existing manufacturer which will go out to hospitals next week, more are due to be made. I guess they are here because one of the companies involved is based here.

We have new ventilators arrived from Germany, Switzerland and China.

One manufacturing alliance producing ventilators for the country is stepping up production next week and another factory in Scotland is also going to start work on a different type.

AND there are CPAP machines being produced thanks to UCL/Mercedes etc which are already medically passed which they hope will stop people getting to the stage of needing invasive ventilation.

The biggest worry here is really staffing and whether the staffing can keep up with the demand. Thus far the NHS has lost 7 medical staff to Covid.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on April 04, 2020, 12:31:27 PM
PA has surpassed 10,000 cases. This is about 1/7th of the cases tested. Apparently we still have capacity for patients but we're still fearing a surge.
I do see the point if you are a carrier but then again if you are keeping yourself away from other people, you aren't at risk of spreading it to anyone.
Yeah, this is the reasoning behind why we're being urged to wear them. The thought is that asymptomatic carriers might be too lenient with going out and being around others, and the masks will prevent saliva spread through talking and stuff.
My mom made me a pony fabric one.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Taffeta on April 04, 2020, 01:00:04 PM
On the recovery rate  -UK just isn't recording them at all or at least not releasing figures so the JH stats for the UK are entirely irrelevant.

We get some local news about it but nothing concrete. It's a case of mathematically calculating how many people are in hospital vs how many people apparently have tested positive since now 99% of tests are carried out on those needing hospital care here at the moment.

Some reports of Covidiots breaching the stay at home to go hang out on Brighton beach.

People are royally unimpressed by such people. As someone's said, if a £60 fine makes you obey something that 600+ people dying won't make you obey, you have a problem as a human being.

As for kids and the disease, a 5 year old was in our death numbers today (but had underlying health issues). More notable over here is the 13 year old lad who had no underlying medical concerns, died a few days ago (alone) and had to be buried alone also as his family members are also sick and in isolation.

Personally I feel like the fact that story isn't enough to keep selfish people at home because they 'want to go sunbathe' is an indictment on the whole human race. Every person with an actual heart or any kind of empathy should be feeling from the depths of it for that family (and for the two lots of kids who lost their NHS nurse mothers yesterday) and should be STAYING AT HOME.

They are genuinely killing people by going out, and I don't really understand how much more strongly you can say that. I mean, the govt's latest ad literally says PEOPLE WILL DIE.

And all this despite the fact our figures are relatively stable and that people breaking the order right now just because it happens to be sunny will mean a much longer lockdown and much more trouble.

It's also making our news that the US are confiscating masks made by their companies but preordered by other countries (Not sure the UK is involved, but Germany is). Hope that's a misunderstanding because the last thing the world need now is a supplies trade war :/
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Artemesia's Garden on April 04, 2020, 01:31:59 PM
Thanks for the UK updates Taffeta. I'd much rather read this than listen to the news right now. I hope you're not glued to it constantly though and keeping wellX
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Taffeta on April 04, 2020, 01:39:58 PM
Thanks for the UK updates Taffeta. I'd much rather read this than listen to the news right now. I hope you're not glued to it constantly though and keeping wellX

No, I watch the press conferences (Gove today, ugh...) to keep up to date but today I've mostly been outside in the garden xD. There's only so much data you can take in anyway.

So far we're doing fine, though Mum is panicking about running out of porridge and onions. And I found that one box of her belvita things was out of date by a week. And we managed to finally get wipes so that makes me a bit happier we can wipe down delivery food and other stuff.

I tend to listen to the US reports too because so many people here are in the US and I wanna know what's going on over there, that everyone there is being looked after as well.

:hug: we can get through this.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: lonewolf on April 04, 2020, 01:54:09 PM
Welp. Just heard a medical call on the scanner for a house about 1 1/2 blocks from mine. I heard them say they thought the person was "charlie positive", which is their new code word for the virus. I hope it isn't the one I'm thinking of. If it is, 1 of them works where I do.
And Kansas is up to 698 and 21.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: tikibirds on April 04, 2020, 02:01:46 PM
They banned ALL foreigners from entry in to the country due to people bringing the disease back to China. However 90% of the imported cases are Chinese nationals returning from overseas yet whenever they have imported cases they use the term "foreign worker" which has led to a lot of xenophobia against foreigners living here. Now signs are popping up that say "NO FOREIGN FRIENDS ALLOWED" in shops, cafes, malls, gyms, ect. I have also read that citizens are being told to stay away from foreigners as they are "dirty trash".  People here have always acted shocked around me anyways so I haven't really noticed any difference  :blink: I'm not in any of the megacities and there is no reason for foreigners to travel here, nothing to see or do. Plus it's kinda rural by China's standards.

I also heard rumors about the US stealing supplies from Canada?  -_-
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Taffeta on April 04, 2020, 02:11:08 PM
I also heard rumors about the US stealing supplies from Canada?  -_-
The news story doing the rounds here is masks meant for Germany...

Edit: Looks like it's considerably global, Canada is mentioned as well.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-52161995
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Koudoawaia on April 04, 2020, 03:01:38 PM
We're up to 917 cases and 40 deaths now in KY...
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Loa on April 04, 2020, 07:33:20 PM
New Zealand now has over 1000 cases, one death.
Theya re saying that if we were not in lockdown, we would have 4 times that number.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Trinity on April 04, 2020, 07:55:20 PM
In Australia, all the state borders are closed.

We are in lockdown. You may only leave your house to get food, do exercise, go to the doctor, or if your work or education cannot function online. You are also supposedly allowed to see your partner if you don't live together, you can do what you have to if you are separated and have joint custody over a child, and you can care for family members if they need you (e.g. bringing them food, but not staying for a visit).
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Aeryala on April 05, 2020, 04:00:53 AM
They've tightened things up here in Ontario, most recently shortening the list of "essential" businesses that are allowed to stay open.  The provincial government also sent out emergency notices that people are to stay home unless it's absolutely necessary to go out.  Many of the stores that are still open are enforcing customer limits, with supervised lines, and some are now required to only do curbside pickups; the province-owned liquor store is doing a really impressive job of strictly keeping people apart and then sanitizing the cash counter after each person goes through - ironically it feels like the safest place to visit right now and also the least necessary.

The paint store where I work(ed) may actually stay open through this whole thing, as they sell products that could conceivably be used in health care construction projects.  This pandemic crisis is really showing the company's true colors.. They are now cutting all the part timer's (everyone who is not a manager) hours to almost none - not laying us off, so that we could collect unemployment benefits, but essentially forcing us to take an "optional" 8 week unpaid leave (during which they could call us back at any time, or alternatively refuse to take us back at the end - I've heard through the grapevine that it's being used to "cull the unloyal").  I have genuine fears that I will end up not being eligible for unemployment or the emergency benefit because of the way my employer is handling this, and also doubting whether I'll have a job at the end of the pandemic.  Time to hone my entreprenurial skills and start growing my own food.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Ponybookworm on April 05, 2020, 05:06:24 AM
Found a Youtube to go wi the others: I dreamed a dream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XM5hc5eJyI
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Taffeta on April 05, 2020, 06:57:43 AM
UK news today dominated by Scotland's Chief Medical Officer having broken her own (and national UK) guidelines not to go swanning off to holiday homes because of the lockdown, even though it's sunny weather.

For anyone not in the UK who isn't aware, each country has a devolved govt and their own first minister (except England who is stuck just with the central govt, but that's another matter) and their own medical officer, and so this is one of the most important figures in Scotland during this pandemic so it's a biiig....scandal.

And our health minister is threatening to take away our right to exercise because some idiots are not complying, even though most people are. Hopefully it's just a threat.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Ponyfan on April 05, 2020, 08:59:32 AM
Here's the latest where I live. 151 cases, 4 deaths, 21 people recovered.

Our golf courses are still open but I don't expect them to be for much longer because people are posting pics on social media of groups of people playing golf and not social distancing.


This pandemic crisis is really showing the company's true colors.. They are now cutting all the part timer's (everyone who is not a manager) hours to almost none - not laying us off, so that we could collect unemployment benefits, but essentially forcing us to take an "optional" 8 week unpaid leave (during which they could call us back at any time, or alternatively refuse to take us back at the end -


This is the same situation I am in. My work is on hiatus right now due to the virus.   I am not getting paid as long as they are "closed" (Although full time staff is still getting paid and they are in session.) yet I am still technically employed by them so I don't think I can file unemployment.  My boss sent out an email saying that we should try to find other methods of income but how are we supposed to do that when everything is closed?


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Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: banditpony on April 05, 2020, 09:42:34 AM
Here's the latest where I live. 151 cases, 4 deaths, 21 people recovered.

Our golf courses are still open but I don't expect them to be for much longer because people are posting pics on social media of groups of people playing golf and not social distancing.


This pandemic crisis is really showing the company's true colors.. They are now cutting all the part timer's (everyone who is not a manager) hours to almost none - not laying us off, so that we could collect unemployment benefits, but essentially forcing us to take an "optional" 8 week unpaid leave (during which they could call us back at any time, or alternatively refuse to take us back at the end -


This is the same situation I am in. My work is on hiatus right now due to the virus.   I am not getting paid as long as they are "closed" (Although full time staff is still getting paid and they are in session.) yet I am still technically employed by them so I don't think I can file unemployment.  My boss sent out an email saying that we should try to find other methods of income but how are we supposed to do that when everything is closed?

Hold on. You need to look into if you are eligible.

Under normal circumstances you wouldn't be if you still are an employee, but many states have changed their rules if you are getting no work due to coronavirus you CAN get state unemployment, as well as the extra $600 through the fed CARES act.. even those who use 1099 and are contractors. So you REALLY need to go to your state's coronavirus resource page and look that up.

Also, I dunno, up here there are a ton of job openings that were created.. mostly with grocery stores, amazon, and supply chain jobs.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: lonewolf on April 05, 2020, 01:51:52 PM
Kansas is up to 747 and 22 deaths.

And a new reason to avoid the beach and ocean: https://www.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-california-beaches-one-scientist-140029412.html
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Taffeta on April 05, 2020, 04:24:06 PM
Our Queen did a speech in which she very tactfully emphasised how important it is to all pull together and do what we can for each other. In other words, stay home idiots.

Boris is in hospital for tests as he's still apparently sick with covid19.

On a personal note, strange sensation seeing all the temporary hospitals go up. I've been to conventions/fairs at two of them and the third...hosted UK ponycon a few years back.

Strange world we live in.

I am marathoning Red Dwarf. I am doing this for two reasons. One, I think being the last human marooned in deep space with very little company is a proper companion for social distancing, and two, there's a new feature length special airing on 9th April.

Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on April 05, 2020, 05:36:03 PM
The paint store where I work(ed) may actually stay open through this whole thing, as they sell products that could conceivably be used in health care construction projects.  This pandemic crisis is really showing the company's true colors.. They are now cutting all the part timer's (everyone who is not a manager) hours to almost none - not laying us off, so that we could collect unemployment benefits, but essentially forcing us to take an "optional" 8 week unpaid leave (during which they could call us back at any time, or alternatively refuse to take us back at the end - I've heard through the grapevine that it's being used to "cull the unloyal").  I have genuine fears that I will end up not being eligible for unemployment or the emergency benefit because of the way my employer is handling this, and also doubting whether I'll have a job at the end of the pandemic.  Time to hone my entreprenurial skills and start growing my own food.

That's really not cool of them.  Our management has already discussed that if we have to close down completely (right now we're not open to the public but still allowed to come in and work on things) then they will furlough the part timers so that they can apply for unemployment.  Then when we open back up, they'll just come back to work.  We're hoping that doesn't have to happen but it's good to know there's a plan in place.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Beth3346 on April 05, 2020, 07:07:59 PM
We were able to move last week and are settling into our new home. Minus our dog Moose :cry:  :missy:

Its harder to get food and groceries delivered now that we're out in the burbs. I didn't envision coronavirus when we decided to move. Also my first amazon package was delivered to a field so that will be fun to deal with tomorrow.

Still working from home. We've all been asked to take a 10% pay cut which isn't too bad considering the possible alternatives. Though if this drags on too long I don't know what will happen.

There aren't as many cases out here as there are in Austin proper. I think there are 3 deaths in this county so far.

We went back to our old house to clean and get stuff that was left behind by the movers. It seems like anyone who is out on the road is driving like a maniac because no one is getting pulled over. It also just feels weird to be out of the house. I think i'm getting too used to being at home 24/7.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Taffeta on April 06, 2020, 01:56:57 AM
It's so weird how the mundane ends up consuming your life.

The good news - we get porridge in our delivery this afternoon.

The bad news - they've closed part of our road without warning so who knows if the delivery van can get here.

The reassuring news - Local medical teams believe they're equipped to cope here with a crisis on the level of Italy or Spain so long as people keep distancing (and mostly, in this area at least, they are. In our neighbourhood pretty much everyone seems to be keeping to the programme).

In this area there are lots of hospital politics (basically, since our hospital was buiilt, people on the other side of the county where the original hospital is have done all they can to try and get bits of it shut down. The trusts were merged so they could dump their debt on us as well and use our resources, and the current argument is we don't need an A & E  - despite being the more populous area - because the other hospital (12 miles + away from most people here) can handle it all. There are other things as well but I'll not go into them.

The hope is that this crisis will tell the idiots politicising the hospital situation that there's a reason we need two fully functional hospitals in a county area that covers 1200+ square miles. Other than those two main hospitals, the only other places are community hospitals which can't handle acute emergencies, so yeah. And we get a fair number of Welsh patients as well, because we're so close to the border.

So it's reassuring that they think they can cope, at the moment, and have supplies and such (this was from a member of staff at the hospital). But also hopeful that after it's over, our hospital will stop being attacked in the way it has been the last 20 years.

The other positive I think and the reason why people in this area especially are keeping to the distancing is that here, because of the constant attacks on our hospital, a lot of people are involved in activism to protect the hospital. Thus this is protecting the hospital and our NHS staff, so people here are willing to go the distance to help. The hospital is no more than a mile away, too, so there are doubtless many people living in this urban village who work there.

But the weather is to continue to be warm here this week.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Zapper on April 06, 2020, 05:36:02 AM
Half of my city's officially infected people have recovered and new infections aren't as jumpy anymore. 3 official deaths. It looks like we are slowly reaching stability.

Let's hope the sun won't make those numbers rise again. Already saw people stocking up on those coals... Basically, in Germany: once the first few sunrays appear, people start gathering for open-air barbecues <__< And that's of course the opposite of social distancing.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Ponybookworm on April 06, 2020, 08:14:21 AM
UK Government leaflet arrived today. Still not saying how often they class as "infrequent", probably due to their once-a-day guidelines on outside exercise (I can only assume you do the messages at the same time as your exercise).

Parents have been in touch & say the towns they visit (relatively small up here in North East Scotland) have big queues at the supermarkets. Dad can drive so they're mostly ok wi that. He says he wants to leave slots open for the "really bad" cases, like cancer patients & so on. Some of his neighbours are like that. I think he might help them out wi bags at the door & stuff due to his car.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Taffeta on April 06, 2020, 11:59:52 AM
I don't know if that's just a Scottish leaflet, I know Boris was apparently writing to all households but we haven't had anything here. Our post is already a bit weird though. Even in normal times they like to gather a bundle of stuff together before delivering it, and that has been accentuated...

Figures down today...fingers crossed it means something.

Boris still in hospital. As of tonight in ICU, which is a bit sobering whatever you think of the guy.

Local news reporting an interview with a local surgeon who says they have an action plan here to deal with a higher capacity and that they believe they can deal with it so long as people maintain distancing. Although we are midlands, we are not caught up in the surge in Brum and surrounds (yet, hopefully not at all).

One new death in our wider county area, up in the north towards the Welsh border in a community hospital.

Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: lonewolf on April 06, 2020, 02:26:36 PM
Kansas is up to 845 and 25 deaths. No new cases in my county (officially anyway) yet.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on April 06, 2020, 04:15:38 PM
We're having a slight decline in cases (down each day compared to the last). We're still having new ones, but less is always nice. About 12% of cases in PA needed hospitalization and thus far we've been able to keep up with demand. This makes me hopeful although it's too soon to say if there is a true plateauing.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Ponyfan on April 06, 2020, 07:36:53 PM
Latest info from where I live. 180 cases, 6 deaths and 25 people recovered.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: banditpony on April 07, 2020, 06:06:50 AM
I believe yesterday was a 12% increase... which is ok, i guess. Obviously it's gonna go up before we go down and we got our start about a month ago?

We are getting produce delivered for the first time on Thursday. I didn't have the best selection, but yay for fruits and veggies. It's a mail order thing -- so it'll come every other week. If we need meat, there's a butcher (who we love) doing curbside. And anything else, should be ok for at least a month or so. So I feel comfy staying in.

The only things we need to go out for is I need to get my dad's medicine... and my dad needs to take his dog to the vet because she has this ongoing cough (months?) that's getting very bad. And maybe a small hospital visit -- or a traveling nurse visit. Not sure yet, I'll know after our telehealth appt today.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Taffeta on April 07, 2020, 08:42:56 AM
PM stable in hospital, under observation, according to Downing St.

Number of UK people tested is slowly going up day by day, number of cases not as high as a few days ago but apparently some issue with some cities not getting their data in on time. Still numbers of new cases are not massively rising which I hope is a good sign lockdown is working. Full UK lockdown began on 23rd March. Vulnerable people self isolating began the week before and we're pretty used to it now and expect it to continue for us. I don't see full lockdown being lifted yet but some questions about it have been asked since it is due to end at Easter and we right now don't have a PM to make the decisions. Still think it will likely be extended by Raab and co as yesterday sounded like the scientists thought that important.

It has been said by scientists here before that we need a solid 13 week lockdown rather than piecemeal ones that allow for second waves. But the economy is also a concern for a lot of people as well.

In my local area I think the borough is up to around 80 cases, deaths are by health trust so not sure as it's combined across the whole wider county. Somewhere around 30 I think overall. Not nice. But much lower than in the West Mids conurbations still.

In personal news we had the washing machine serviced today. They came in full masks and everything, gloves, decontaminated themselves before coming and the whole kitchen before leaving. Never thought I'd say that about British Gas. Parents kept wide distance from them which was matched by the mechanics. But they have to come back because basically the machine is on its last legs and they are going to try and tide it over with an emergency fix so it survives at least till end of lockdown.

I am a bit annoyed by this as it was pretty obvious the machine wasn't working right up to six months ago. And parents decided having the kitchen painted was more urgent.

...But anyway.

Weather in the UK beautiful and sunny today.

Edit: Anyone interested in data breakdowns for the UK, this is the govt's source on that by region.

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/f94c3c90da5b4e9f9a0b19484dd4bb14

If that doesn't work it can also be accessed from the govt's page:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-track-coronavirus-cases
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: BlackCurtains on April 07, 2020, 09:38:32 AM
14,504 cases in Florida. 283 deaths.

The governor is basically in "oh [bleep]" mode after hemming and hawing for so long to do something. Just about everything is shut down now except essential services, and unfortunately one of those is churches who of course are having large numbers of people gather.

It's a bad scene in FL right now!
Title: Re: Week of Mar 30: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Wardah on April 07, 2020, 09:58:21 AM
14,504 cases in Florida. 283 deaths.

The governor is basically in "oh [bleep]" mode after hemming and hawing for so long to do something. Just about everything is shut down now except essential services, and unfortunately one of those is churches who of course are having large numbers of people gather.

It's a bad scene in FL right now!

I can understand why the government doesn't want to get involved since the whole "separation of church and state" thing but I would hope most religious leaders would have the common sense to just have adherents practice at home.
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