The MLP Arena
Pony Talk => Pony Corral => Topic started by: kingluke on March 27, 2020, 09:24:00 AM
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Hello everyone,
I saw somebody selling ponies on the arena but they were really overpriced. I don't want to call anyone out or be a jerk about it, after all a seller can price their items as they please. Yet I feel like 'helping' (If that's even the correct term) them by letting them know. i'm not trying to lowball anyone here but 15 dollars for a cotton candy is just crazy to me. How do you deal with this? I'd really hate to be rude...
I'm just too socially inept sometimes...:blush:
Thank you.
Cheers,
Luke.
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I generally would not unless the seller asks but you could always ask if they might consider offers. If not then I would see if someone else has it. If it’s overpriced then it won’t sell but if the seller wanted to get rid of their items fast, they will just have to meet the current market price. That’s my take on it. Hope this helps! :)
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Eh, sellers are allowed to ask what they want.
You could ask if they were willing to take offers or if their prices are firm if it was something you were interested in.
If it's just because you want to correct them, they will figure out sooner or later that their items aren't moving. Maybe they just don't feel ready to let go yet. Or maybe they didn't do their research good enough.
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ok yes on ebay - the argentina ponies are like in some cases hundreds overpriced from the average sales and then the seller tried to tack on the $20 ship to each pony and not combine shipping. So yes, in that case when it was tried to be justified as having negotiated down on the price I did quickly point out that the prices were inflated to begin with and in the case of the rehair, it had not been disclosed which affects the value significantly
I have sometimes paid a pretty penny for "odd" or "weathered" MLP so I apologize if my occasional $10 for a green bowtie or an orange cotton candy or a yellowed cherries has created the wrong impression with some folks that their vintage toys are now worth $50 at least in good shape 'cause yeah I am surprised sometimes to think nightglider is now a hundred dollar item
I just could not resist and actual yellow dye dip for this pony = IMO so much better to be actual yellow
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prices in general are "whatever someone will pay" so if no one is paying than let that seller figure it out and I say for the most part outside of particular situations, just go find another CC or whatever pony you are hunting for from a reasonable seller
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I've also noticed that a seller on eBay has exorbitant prices for their ponies. So I either avoid buying there (as I have so far), or if I can't find the item anywhere else, I suppose I would make an offer if the listing has that option. The pony seller in question doesn't have a "make offer" option, so I just avoid them. If they prefer to sit on their overpriced items instead of accepting reasonable offers, well, their loss.
If the seller here on the Arena hasn't been able to sell your desired pony yet, you could just ask if they would consider selling for the price you're willing to pay. If they realise they won't be able to sell the pony for the price they ask for it, they might be willing to do so.
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All of you have made me a lot wiser. Thank you.
The best approach seems just to ask which is reasonable.
It just baffles me sometimes, all those crazy high prices...
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I wouldn’t. They probably won’t listen, so I wouldn’t waste my time.
That’s the reason I generally avoid making “wanted/actively buying” posts: if someone messages and says they have that item for sale, I don’t know how I could politely tell them they’re asking too much for it, lol.
Also re: high prices, I know right? What baffles me even more is when something that’s ridiculously overpriced actually sells. Meanwhile I can’t sell the items I deliberately price below market average and painstakingly describe, in great detail, every flaw as to ensure people know what they’re getting... :pout:
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I agree when it comes to overpricing, most of the time it's out of ignorance rather than trying to scam anyone. Like others have said, the majority of sellers will come down when they see their items aren't shifting, without needing to be told.
However, deliberate overpricing can be a problem on eBay. And is it just me, or are there sellers who put their shipping charge up way higher than it should be?
basically, a couple months back I saw a sugar sweet in need of restoration for £15, plus £5 second class postage (for the record, typical 2nd class postage for one pony shipping within the UK is usually £2.90 or less) so either they'd made a weight miscalculation, or that was their way of getting a couple extra. Not wanting to argue with them over shipping, I sent an offer of £10, but I got a reply that essentially said they wouldn't accept any offers below asking price because they were trying to make a profit?? Uhhhh, then why even have the offers option available in the first place??
Yeeeeah, didn't buy that sugar sweet in the end. As far as I know, that sale is still ongoing, and at the same price/postage, so I think that might be one person who isn't willing to learn.
So yeah, all in all, you can trust people on the arena, but be careful on eBay.
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If I don't like the price I don't buy it. No need to call anyone out, or try to haggle. No one knows what financial situation a person may be in to make them up their prices. Plus there's plenty of ponies for sale all the time. :) I personally price my ponies based on finished ebay listings which I am sure can be a bit high to some, but it is really the only way to know how much certain things are worth.
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If I think someone's ponies are overpriced I just move on and buy them from someone else.
Ponyfan
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If I don't like the price I don't buy it. No need to call anyone out, or try to haggle. No one knows what financial situation a person may be in to make them up their prices. Plus there's plenty of ponies for sale all the time. :) I personally price my ponies based on finished ebay listings which I am sure can be a bit high to some, but it is really the only way to know how much certain things are worth.
Basically all of this. I see overpriced ponies all the time on Depop and at conventions but there isn't a lack of stock on ponies I can easily say are overpriced. If something doesn't sell, the person would eventually lower prices.
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Not usually, because if the price a pony is worth to them is not the same as to me then we won't be having a transaction, however, if they say they are open to offers I'll give them an honest offer. They can always say no and I won't take offence. I've sold some amazing ponies agt lower prices and some baity ponies at higher prices myself. It kinda depends on emitional stuff and how much I need to make space etc. as well as the objective value of the pony (there' sno such thing). I heard once that a thing is only worth what someone is prepared to pay for it, if that helps.
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Nah. I just won't buy 'em if I don't want to pay what they are asking. If they really want to sell, they'll realize they'll have to drop their prices on their own eventually, I figure. I see some sellers on ebay asking ridiculous prices for all their ponies, even common ones, and it makes me wonder if they ever sell any at those rates, but unless I put them in my watch list, I guess I'll never know. :huh:
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Yeah, you just move on. Though you do lose a little hope when you see a member asking 30 bucks for a Peachy.
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Agree with the majority. We all have our own pricing schemes.
Also, I've noticed the following things.
Within the US, people seem able to sell some uncommon or excl. ponies at higher prices if they want to, because there's a market and the US buyers will pay a couple of $ more to get a domestic purchase for a European pony/htf pony than they would to deal with international shipping. Most buyers would also choose the same option but there's more availability within the US because of sheer size. It is hard for international sellers to beat US internal shipping and so to match US prices.
On the other hand, there's also the question of currency, especially in the current climate. We tend to all deal in one of three currencies on here - $, £ and € - and our economies are based on what currencies we use, our own cost of living, etc. People tend to benefit from selling when their currency is weak and buying when their currency is strong, but that's a fluid situation. Back when there were almost $2 to the £ it was great to buy ponies from the US. Now it's horrendous. People who live in countries where a different currency is used have their own economies as well based on what they need for an item.
Sometimes people are greedy, sometimes they are selling for a cause, sometimes they've seen people sell ponies for more and thus take that price as verbatim.
I think it's better to have the situation whereby you may accept offers on items, but that doesn't mean a seller is obligated to either change their prices or agree to that offer. While (esp on Ebay) there are some major examples of greed (albeit fees exist as well there)...I think for the most part it's these kinds of considerations people here place on ponies when selling them.
And they don't always translate globally.
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I stink at pricing. That is why I always state open to offers:)
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I can say I try to have reasonable prices listed for what I want to sell. I don't mind people making offers especially if they are wanting to buy more than just one pony. I don't always have time to do exhaustive searching and cross referencing for prices on things.
Honestly the buyer is probably more informed of the going rate than I would be as a seller since they have been the ones looking for the item.
If you want the item they are selling it never hurts to make an offer.
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No. But I'll scornfully roll my eyes and talk smack about someone selling that oh-so Super Rare and baity Glory. Because it's so rare and worth every penny and there's totally not 8 more reasonably priced Glories below them no sir! :rolleyes: :shifty:
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It's hard to know how some people will react to being told their items are too expensive, especially if it's coming from a random stranger on the internet. Very few people like their first interaction with someone to be comments on how their stuff is too expensive. Some people might actually take it to heart and be grateful, but for every one of those there's probably 10 people who will be offended, and many of those will lash out. Those aren't odds I want to deal with.
I will say something to friends, or sellers that I have an extensive relationship with. I often chat with sellers before/during/after a purchase, and once I find a seller that I like and trust, I'll often be a repeat buyer, and often a frequent friendly "just because" email pen-pal. If I've been back and forth with a seller for over a year, then I might make a *polite* mention about their prices.
If a seller has across the board absolutely insane prices(I've seen some doozys over the years), I'll usually just not buy from them, and make a mental note about that. Truly out-there pricing across the board usually indicates either someone who has *no* idea about the actual market, or someone who's just plain greedy. There are exceptions, but those are the most likely explanations. On rare occasions where they have something I absolutely must have at any price, I'll usually put out a delicate feeler to see if there's any wiggle room in that price. That's rare though.
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I just ignore it, those people usually can't be swayed for whatever reason, if you wait there will be always be an appropriately priced one later. In some cases I've just waited and eventually they lowered the price, that is very rare, I think in most cases they are waiting for an uninformed person to buy it not knowing better
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I just could not resist and actual yellow dye dip for this pony = IMO so much better to be actual yellow
Definitely agree, I love this! If a pony has an unsightly issue, I like to make the smallest changes possible to make it suitable for display and this one is genius.
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Like everyone else said, I wouldn't bring it up with them.
Either no one will buy their pony and they'll eventually lower the price, or someone will buy it. I've sold some stuff at high prices on eBay before, it's amazing the prices you can get if you take good pictures and are patient.
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Nope, I just move on and buy it from somewhere else if possible.
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I was going to say "it's not worth it to 'inform' someone, because inevitably it leads to misunderstandings and hurt feelings', but then I saw this reply:
No. But I'll scornfully roll my eyes and talk smack about someone selling that oh-so Super Rare and baity Glory. Because it's so rare and worth every penny and there's totally not 8 more reasonably priced Glories below them no sir! :rolleyes: :shifty:
... and I was like, HEY, MY PEOPLE! :lmao: Sometimes I'll share particularly egregious overpriced pony auctions with my friends, like "omg, are you kidding me??" There's always a $50 Peachy on Ebay to laugh about!
I think pricing, unfortunately, can be a really personal thing; for me, sometimes my prices are a little higher because A) I don't sell a lot and so it's an extra effort for me to go to the post office, and I don't wanna do that for $1-3! and B) I don't want folks buying my just-okay ponies for custom bait. And on the flip side as a seller, if I get people who are out to 'inform' me that "your sales are super overpriced, I'll offer 30% of your asking price if you kick in free shipping", and all I hear is "I'm cheap and I'm probably out to scam you." It's unfortunate, but people who start getting aggressive about paying are usually the folks who are going to be a problem in the future. (I also had someone who asked if they could get a group discount which I OK'd, then had me hold something like 20 ponies, asked for multiple additional photos of most of them... then vanished from the face of the planet. I held the ponies for her for months. She's still out there buying and selling, not a care in the world.)
If someone has prices set, that's probably what they want for that pony, for whatever reason; but a lot of folks are nice, and are open to hearing offers, especially if the pony has sat around for awhile! So it can't hurt to say "hey, would you consider $x for this pony?", but I wouldn't frame it as "you are wrong on this pricing"; that's not gonna help you close the sale! ;)
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No, I prefer not to stick my nose where it doesn't belong. :P
It's hard to know how some people will react to being told their items are too expensive, especially if it's coming from a random stranger on the internet. Very few people like their first interaction with someone to be comments on how their stuff is too expensive.
This... I was once harassed (yes, it really felt like harassment) when I sold a pony "too cheap". :pout: I had a pony for sale, and I sold it to the first person who contacted me. Everything was fine, until someone else messaged me about the pony. I told them politely that I had already agreed to sell the pony to the first person. They proceeded to ask for how much I sold the pony, and I, stupid as I am, told them. Then they started harassing me, in multiple messages: They would have paid much more, I shouldn't have felt forced to sell it to the first person, I could still cancel the transaction if the other person hadn't paid yet, etc...
Did. Not. Appreciate. It! >_<
No idea if the person I'm talking about reads this, if so, I don't really care. I thought it was a nasty way to behave, especially coming from a stranger who I had never talked to before. I don't care if you would have paid more, I agreed with the price, which means it's a good price for me. I don't need to make the most of it! I really don't care about profit. >_<
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No, I prefer not to stick my nose where it doesn't belong. :P
It's hard to know how some people will react to being told their items are too expensive, especially if it's coming from a random stranger on the internet. Very few people like their first interaction with someone to be comments on how their stuff is too expensive.
This... I was once harassed (yes, it really felt like harassment) when I sold a pony "too cheap". :pout: I had a pony for sale, and I sold it to the first person who contacted me. Everything was fine, until someone else messaged me about the pony. I told them politely that I had already agreed to sell the pony to the first person. They proceeded to ask for how much I sold the pony, and I, stupid as I am, told them. Then they started harassing me, in multiple messages: They would have paid much more, I shouldn't have felt forced to sell it to the first person, I could still cancel the transaction if the other person hadn't paid yet, etc...
Did. Not. Appreciate. It! >_<
No idea if the person I'm talking about reads this, if so, I don't really care. I thought it was a nasty way to behave, especially coming from a stranger who I had never talked to before. I don't care if you would have paid more, I agreed with the price, which means it's a good price for me. I don't need to make the most of it! I really don't care about profit. >_<
You got harassed for selling a pony too cheaply? That is very bizarre. :blink:
I figure that one can sell it at whatever price they want, but they shouldn't expect people who go out of their way to be in- the-know of a hobby, or people who at least have enough impulse control to shop around a little (which is most people) to pounce on some jerk looking to scam someone out of their money for a common. Or some starry-eyed seller who thinks old toy automatically=tons of cash.
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It’s not bizarre that someone might be harassed for selling a pony cheaply. There are quite a few people on ebay and elsewhere in the community who approach sellers after an auction finishes or a pony is sold to try to get the seller to sell to them instead. This happens most often when a good BIN on ebay happens. I know there are people who search completed auctions daily for auctions that went for reasonable prices to extreme deals. They then contact the seller and attempt to get them to cancel the transaction with the legitimate buyer, and sell to them instead.
I’ve been the unfortunate legitimate buyer on these sorts of auctions many times. Usually the seller returns my payment and gives me some garbage story about the dog/cat/toddler destroying the item, the item being lost, or “my adult daughter became nostalgic and wants to keep it”. It’s funny how all these things happen to Rapunzels and TAF Babies, never to Peachys or Baby Frostings. It’s bad enough that I don’t count an auction as mine until it’s in the mail and moving.
Good for you Broken Irishwoman for not giving in to that dishonest buyer! Any seller that pulls a “my dog ate it” on me never gets my business again. And shame on the buyers who do it. It’s a plague on ebay. I don’t know how many people are doing it. It could just be a few. That’s enough. The greed and dishonesty is just disgusting.
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I will say something to re-sellers on Facebook if their prices are a bit off. A few actually took what I said to heart...
When I have things for sale I try to ebay average and always state that I'm open to offers... (Though I'm done selling anything but customs for awhile now.)
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It's funny...I thought of this post when I was scrolling through craigslist last night, and I saw someone offering an old Blossom for $125. I clicked on it, thinking it had to be a nirvana or a lot or something and the first picture was just of the Blossom, but no, it was just the one pony. It wasn't even in great shape; there were black ink-looking stains on one side,although the seller claimed it was in 'good to excellent' condition.
Then the seller said they would ship for an 'additional $10, so a total of $160'. In what world does $125 +$10 equal $160? :what: I felt like I was missing something. My first thought was, someone should tell them....but it's sure not gonna be me!
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I've tried that in the past, but yeah...the prices fluctuate and sometimes people are stuck on getting top dollar.
I really tried to search on eBay and here to get prices for my ponies. Yes, I know sometimes the prices I put might be "high," but I also try to keep condition in mind. When I see an open played with pony selling for $5, I don't think $8 for a MIB one is too much of a mark up. I also try to offer multiple pony discounts, since most of the time, I'm just looking to clear ponies out and find them good homes.
One thing I really don't like on eBay are the "best offer" auctions. They don't tell you what they ACTUALLY sold for if they accepted the best offer. If I want to base my prices off the current market, I have no idea what the $125 MIB Fluttershy really sold for. Best offer could've been $120 or $15...no idea.
Right now, I'm wondering if it's even worth trying to sell anything. I still have some nirvana ponies to sell and I can finally list the rest of my collection I need to sell. The world is in such chaos, I'm not sure how many people are really looking to spend money on ponies. Prices now are really going to be strange...so I don't know how stable anything will be in the near future.
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To be honest I don't think $15 for a G1 Cotton Candy in near mint/excellent condition (if that's what we talking about) is too over priced.
Yes, you could probably get one cheaper elsewhere, but it isn't that way off.
And as others have mentioned, what you are willing to pay may depend on a couple of things. If I can buy from a collector in Europe with good reputation who provides detailed pictures right away, I am happy to pay a couple of extra € for a hopefully smooth transaction without oversea shipping.
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Well the seller I got Gusty, Main Sail, and Caramel Crunch from had Windy, Sunspot, Sweet Tooth, and Love Letter.
Well Love Letter was placed on bidding for £12 but with make a offer, well offered £47 for all four (Sunspot, Windy, Sweet Tooth, and Love Letter).
Well the seller said that Love Letter goes for £50 (I think a near mint costs this much)
But her Love Letter had a really bad hair cut on her mane (so she won’t be worth £50) So she asked for £25 for her. Well tried to haggle the price down but she wouldn’t budge.
So had to pay £25 for her, £12 for Sweet Tooth, £8 for Sunspot, and £10 for Windy. Not going to buy from that Seller again.
That’s all my birthday money gone.
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Well the seller I got Gusty, Main Sail, and Caramel Crunch from had Windy, Sunspot, Sweet Tooth, and Love Letter.
Well Love Letter was placed on bidding for £12 but with make a offer, well offered £47 for all four (Sunspot, Windy, Sweet Tooth, and Love Letter).
Well the seller said that Love Letter goes for £50 (I think a near mint costs this much)
But her Love Letter had a really bad hair cut on her mane (so she won’t be worth £50) So she asked for £25 for her. Well tried to haggle the price down but she wouldn’t budge.
So had to pay £25 for her, £12 for Sweet Tooth, £8 for Sunspot, and £10 for Windy. Not going to buy from that Seller again.
That’s all my birthday money gone.
I'm not quite sure I get this. Why did you have to buy the ponies if they were overpriced?
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Well the seller I got Gusty, Main Sail, and Caramel Crunch from had Windy, Sunspot, Sweet Tooth, and Love Letter.
Well Love Letter was placed on bidding for £12 but with make a offer, well offered £47 for all four (Sunspot, Windy, Sweet Tooth, and Love Letter).
Well the seller said that Love Letter goes for £50 (I think a near mint costs this much)
But her Love Letter had a really bad hair cut on her mane (so she won’t be worth £50) So she asked for £25 for her. Well tried to haggle the price down but she wouldn’t budge.
So had to pay £25 for her, £12 for Sweet Tooth, £8 for Sunspot, and £10 for Windy. Not going to buy from that Seller again.
That’s all my birthday money gone.
I'm not quite sure I get this. Why did you have to buy the ponies if they where overpriced?
Sweet Tooth is going to be Skylark (I don’t like Brush and Grow ponies), Windy is going to be Powder (I don’t like the powder pose), Sunspot is staying the same (only sparkle pony I like), and Love Letter is going to be Quackers (because Love Melody would of took five to six coats of white airbrush paint. I haven’t got enough of it because the paint is being used for Gingerbread, and Birthday Pony who’s going to be Cupcake) I’m turning some Twinkleeyed ponies into non Twinkleeyed version (Mimic and Quackers).