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Title: Pony Hairstyles and Haircuts
Post by: StayGoldPonyboy on November 08, 2019, 06:34:40 PM
Is it like a crime in the community to cut a pony’s hair? Like a g3 or g4, never a g1-2. I bought a g1 with a haircut from a kid long ago presumably and I’ve seen a few g3s with haircuts and they look really good on some of them?

I wish pony hair was more diverse in length and texture instead of just in color. There’s only so many hairstyles you can manage with the same length ya know? And it gives them more personality! But I’ve also never cared about having a flawless MIB/MOC collection or anything, the very concept of keeping them sealed away saddens me.

Anyways I’d just like to hear people (respectfully) talk about it and what the various opinions are in the community! Please don’t attack me lmao
Title: Re: Pony Hairstyles and Haircuts
Post by: caseysealia on November 08, 2019, 07:14:10 PM
I think its fine. Its your pony, after all.
Title: Re: Pony Hairstyles and Haircuts
Post by: BlackCurtains on November 08, 2019, 07:36:56 PM
It's common to cut and style G4 hair to be "show accurate". Other than that I don't think most people cut hair on purpose, unless it's an all new re-root and you want a pony with a mohawk or something.
Title: Re: Pony Hairstyles and Haircuts
Post by: cloud_weaver on November 08, 2019, 10:26:26 PM
It's common to cut and style G4 hair to be "show accurate". Other than that I don't think most people cut hair on purpose, unless it's an all new re-root and you want a pony with a mohawk or something.

This pretty much.

As a collector, I cringe at hair cuts. :(  I will not buy ponies for my personal collection if they have haircuts.  I remember when a lot of newer G4 collectors would cut the ponies hair to be “show accurate”.  I won’t lie, it somewhat ate at me. :blush:  If it’s your pony, great! :) but be aware that others will most likely not purchase at full price, as a hair cut deeply disvalues a pony.
Title: Re: Pony Hairstyles and Haircuts
Post by: Minty_Magic on November 08, 2019, 11:37:05 PM
I’m bad, I cut my G4’s hair often to be more show accurate. I only regret that I’m not better at cutting hair. ;) Since the mane 6 are sickeningly common I really don’t see any harm in it. It’s not like they’ll probably ever be worth much unless they’re some sort of special release.

Other than that I don’t really cut my ponies hair. I don’t mind buying ponies with haircuts though, if they’re fairly even sometimes I even prefer them! I agree that varying lengths can give a pony much more personality.

If it’s a common pony for your own personal collection you should do what you want. I’m also a very non picky collector and like my ponies a little loved. I can see why collectors who prefer near mint ponies would cringe at the thought! :P
Title: Re: Pony Hairstyles and Haircuts
Post by: kingluke on November 09, 2019, 12:11:38 AM
I restyled my g4 hair but as said they are really common. I don't cut g1 hair but I buy ponies with haircuts and reroot them, which might be considered a 'sin' by itself but I don't really care. They are my ponies after all.
Title: Re: Pony Hairstyles and Haircuts
Post by: Shaz on November 09, 2019, 01:32:47 AM
I have bought many ponies with haircuts and either rehaired them (if it looks awful) or left it (if it looks good). I once bought a Pretty Beat with an amazing mohican!

I don't generally cut pony hair (unless I'm preparing to rehair). I do have a second-hand G4 Rainbow Dash who for some reason had part of her mane cut really short and part of it left long. It looked silly, so I trimmed the whole thing to the same length. I might rehair her later on.
Title: Re: Pony Hairstyles and Haircuts
Post by: SunbeamV on November 09, 2019, 03:11:21 AM
I wouldn't cut a pony's hair myself (except for making a preexisting trim look better), but I do like the character it adds when ponies with haircuts come my way! I think it makes them more unique and interesting. My g1 Salty who came to me with a haircut that I styled into an adorable choppy punk rock look is honestly one of my fave ponies in my collection  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Pony Hairstyles and Haircuts
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on November 09, 2019, 04:56:36 AM
I wouldn't intentionally cut it but I don't mind them. Your pony and all but I tend to look for ponies with hair that's already damaged if I want to alter it, and if you don't mind shorter hair you will end up saving money by seeking out the less than mint ponies.
Title: Re: Pony Hairstyles and Haircuts
Post by: FlickaFriend on November 09, 2019, 06:10:27 AM
I wouldn't cut a pony's hair myself (except for making a preexisting trim look better), but I do like the character it adds when ponies with haircuts come my way! I think it makes them more unique and interesting. My g1 Salty who came to me with a haircut that I styled into an adorable choppy punk rock look is honestly one of my fave ponies in my collection  :biggrin:

I am exactly the same. I could NEVER cut a pony's hair myself, not even G4.  However I have a G1 Applejack who came to me with a trimmed forelock and tail, and I love her.  She looks so cute and I love thinking about her history and who might have cut her hair and why, and the child who would have played with her.  Her tail hasn't been cut too short, it's just ankle-length on her, with a curl, and it's kind of slightly layered, and it makes it more bouncey, almost like the tail carriage of an Arabian horse.

I have some G4 Pinkie Pies that I have curled their hair to make them more show-accurate, but could not cut them.
Title: Re: Pony Hairstyles and Haircuts
Post by: poniesthatsparkle on November 09, 2019, 06:37:54 AM
Personally, I'm against cutting hair. I'd never do it intentionally unless it was a rehair. Just doing damage to a pony that's perfectly fine doesn't sit right with me. The only time I own ponies with haircuts is when I obtain them like that.

If you like cutting pony hair, go for it! Just keep in mind that it will decrease the value if you ever decide to sell the pony. I'd only cut hair on already damaged ponies or ones that you intend to keep.
Title: Re: Pony Hairstyles and Haircuts
Post by: RoseNoire on November 09, 2019, 02:01:18 PM
I won't intentionnally cut a pony's hair if it is intact.

Though I am fine if I purchase an already cut pony and it looks fine that way, or I could possibly adjust an uneven cut to make it look more appealing and I would cut a pony's hair the way I want if it were a reroot.  I usually prefer it long anyway.
Title: Re: Pony Hairstyles and Haircuts
Post by: starrynights on November 09, 2019, 02:22:17 PM
I don't see a problem with cutting a ponies hair as long as it isn't a rare one. Most ponies have the same haircut, I like variety.
Title: Re: Pony Hairstyles and Haircuts
Post by: Safflower on November 09, 2019, 03:39:08 PM
I would never unless it was already cut - in my eyes, that would be intentionally damaging a pony. While it does create variation, I feel there's a lot of other things you can do to a pony's hair to make it different like accessories, curls, braiding, etc. Some ponies do rock shorter hair though!
Title: Re: Pony Hairstyles and Haircuts
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on November 09, 2019, 03:51:15 PM
Like other people have said, I don't do it. If a pony has an uneven cut already done by some kid I may consider trying to make it even, but that's about it.

I mean, I trim individual strands that are too long compared to the pony's intended length, but that doesn't really count. But individual hair strands being too long is a big pet peeve of mine on ponies. :lol:
Title: Re: Pony Hairstyles and Haircuts
Post by: milkywaymochi on November 10, 2019, 02:10:31 AM
Like others have said, I wouldn't intentionally cut a ponies hair- or at least, not just for the sake of it. Obviously I cut hair off if I'm going to reroot it, or even it out a bit.

On the other hand, haircuts do suit some ponies- my princess Serena has got a bit of a bob cut going on, but I think it's actually a pretty good look for her! The girl who owned her originally (who, according to the initials on Serena's hooves, was called Jade) had good taste in haircuts.

I guess I don't mind little imperfections like that on ponies on general. I think it serves as an important reminder that these ponies may be mostly collectors items now, but they were somebody's beloved childhood toy once.
Title: Re: Pony Hairstyles and Haircuts
Post by: Taffeta on November 10, 2019, 04:52:49 AM
My mantra in general with ponies is do no harm.

I also really hate haircuts on ponies, and consider reroots basically customs, so for me cutting a pony's hair is basically defacing it. The only time that I think hair cutting is permissable is if something has got stuck in the hair or knotted into it and it's the only way to release the problem. That's more of a rescue than anything. But those examples are rare.

I admit that I don't have strong feelings about people cutting hair on M6 G4, though, because there are so many of them. However my overall take on it is that someone else in the community may be desperately seeking a particular pony for whatever reason. If you wreck that pony, you take one pony out of circulation. That's one less person somewhere else who has a chance of obtaining that pony in mint condition.

So yeah, my approach is do no harm. Don't wreck something someone else might appreciate in its original state, look for one that already meets the criteria you are wanting. Look for haircut ponies - there are plenty from kids' childhoods. Look for loose ponies. Look for rehairs. Look for bald ponies and rehair them yourself. All those things are possible, if you really want a particular style or effect.

I don't believe in your pony, your choice if the choice means permanently defacing something that cannot ever be restored to original state. People say it's fine because they won't ever sell that pony, but I've been in this community what, 21 years now, and in that time I have seen many of the people who say "I'll never sell them" actually then turn around and sell their ponies.

So yeah. A big no to haircutting from me.

But as I said, with the number of common G4 M6 ponies around, that one I feel less strongly about. I still wouldn't do it, but the repetition of the line makes it less problematic than vandalising a G1 would.

Title: Re: Pony Hairstyles and Haircuts
Post by: StayGoldPonyboy on November 10, 2019, 07:43:24 AM
Yall have some real strong feelings on this huh 😂 Guess I need to invest in some hair clips to spice up all this repetitive long hair! And I’ll definitely be on the lookout for ponies with existing haircuts
Title: Re: Pony Hairstyles and Haircuts
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on November 10, 2019, 07:49:47 AM
Hair is one of the biggest determining factors in worth, so it makes sense for us to be riled up, lol.
I'd look at Derpyderp910's videos, he shows how to give ponies a forelock without cutting the hair. It's cute! I've done the same style on a few G3 ponies.
Title: Re: Pony Hairstyles and Haircuts
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 10, 2019, 12:43:59 PM
Whatever you wanna do but, personally I wouldn't cut hair unless it were ruined beyond hope. There's lotsa good tutorials to style your girls.

Feathers, braids, beads, baby hairclips and ribbon can really make em look great.

Except mane six. They're as common as pixels on a screen. Lol.
Title: Re: Pony Hairstyles and Haircuts
Post by: Taffeta on November 10, 2019, 12:52:18 PM
Yall have some real strong feelings on this huh 😂 Guess I need to invest in some hair clips to spice up all this repetitive long hair! And I’ll definitely be on the lookout for ponies with existing haircuts

It's honestly a lot of credit to you to come talk to people about their ideas and feelings about this subject, so kudos and cookies for doing that and for taking it on board :)

As LAW says, there is quite a lot you can do with long hair. I've curled some, braided some, a couple of mine even have their hair in bunches or two tails. Or you can tie it back in a bun or a loop so it doesn't look so long. All those styles are removable, and so it also gives you the chance to change the pony's look from time to time if you get fed up with it (which a haircut is not reversable except with a reroot...)

Brushable hair is one of the key features of MLP overall for a lot of people, so as others have said, there is importance in the hair length being as close to original as possible.

Title: Re: Pony Hairstyles and Haircuts
Post by: TornadoLovesMelody on November 10, 2019, 01:37:10 PM
I can't add to this thread much because Taffeta already phrased it so well.

Out in "the wild" I'll still buy a pony with hair cuts if it's cheap but other than that it has lost too much value and is more or less custom bait.
Other than that - these are ~35 year old collectables (speaking of g1) and same as I wouldn't scrape off a pattern I disliked from a Ming vase, or cut "more modern holes" into authentic vintage clothes - I won't devalue a pony by cutting it's hair. I will do everything in my power to save it.

I received a MB Lightning with something that had tangled his hair and tail into a sticky oily mess. His owner had given up and said if I didn't take him (for free + postage) she'd just toss him in the garbage.
It took me three days of hard work but I got it out. He's now in my herd.

I am still a believer that what you own is yours and you are technically free to do whatever you please with it.
And I too prefer ponies off the cards (except for childhood ponies - those I want MIP) but I wouldn't decard a pony unless the card was harming the pony [e.g. mold or something else that contaminates the pony].

Newer generations such as g3 and onwards I have very little to none attachment to and I couldn't care less if people cut their hair or limbs off for various projects.
That might change in 15 years :P

Title: Re: Pony Hairstyles and Haircuts
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on November 10, 2019, 01:44:19 PM
or cut "more modern holes" into authentic vintage clothes
OT but I see so many people do this on Depop, or crop the design in half, even. Can't wait to see a bunch of crop tops back in the thrifts in a few years.  :P

Curls do shorten the pony's hair a bit as well if the length is annoying, but then you have curls, so.
Title: Re: Pony Hairstyles and Haircuts
Post by: HollowZero on November 11, 2019, 06:30:47 PM
I don't mind ponies with haircuts. My Crumpet has a short forelock, and her baby looks to have a possible mane trim. I think it's endearing that a child tried to style their hair.
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