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Title: Growing Up is Hard to Do
Post by: Al-1701 on September 28, 2019, 02:56:55 PM

Well, that happened.  It was entertaining which is more than I can say of the second half of this season.

Spoiler

I noticed they never asked Pinkie Pie.  If you'll allow me a TeamFourStar references.
CMC: We need an adult!
Pinkie Pie: I am an adult!
CMC: No. No you are not.

Title: Re: Growing Up is Hard to Do
Post by: milkywaymochi on September 29, 2019, 10:25:23 AM

True, you could see the moral/resolution coming from a mile off, but that wasn't really an issue for me this time. The journey to said resolution was entertaining, and the episode as a whole was enjoyable enough for me, which is a big upgrade from almost every other episode in this season.
I liked spur and adult sweetie belle's designs, and I forget what the name of the tornado creature was, but it was pretty cute!

 This episode also basically confirmed that scootaloo will never be able to fly. if you look at it as the pegasus equivalent of being physically disabled, I can kind of appreciate them going for that option; though who knows if that's what they intended, or if they just couldn't be bothered to give a definite answer.  :shrug:

Title: Re: Growing Up is Hard to Do
Post by: TJgamer on September 29, 2019, 10:36:32 AM

This is one of the latest episodes ever. And by that, I mean this episode really should have been done ages ago - like season 3 or 4.  :|
It feels weird that the CMC are talked down as little kids despite them having matured quite a bit up to this point.
That said, it is cool to finally see them in their canonical adult forms. I absolutely love Sweetie Belle's design. Her thick eyeliner stands out.  :biggrin:
I also like the subtle touch with their voices. It's not too little that it's unnoticeable, but not too much that it becomes distracting.
Glad to see that crazy station pony again. And apparently he has asthma.
The two kids, Spur and Biscuit, were okay. I really like Spur's design though.  ^.^
Bloofy, the "whirling mungtooth", is pretty cute. Fyi, I looked it up. I don't think it's based on any existing creature.
And of course I have to mention the Dorothy cameo.  :P
This was a fun episode with an admittedly standard plot. Plus some of the dialogue is a little too on the nose.
Oh, and the song was fine. I'm not an expert in the slightest when it comes to music.

Title: Re: Growing Up is Hard to Do
Post by: Teddy on September 29, 2019, 11:46:33 AM

I really liked this episode! I have been quite disappointed with most episodes in this season, but this one was a good one. :) It was so fun seeing the CMCs as grown-ups, and Sweetie Belle was sooooo pretty! I just loved her design, those eyelashes! <3 Spur's design was really good as well, wow the colors they chose on her! So unusual, and so eye-catching. Loved it!

Title: Re: Growing Up is Hard to Do
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on September 29, 2019, 11:58:03 AM

I liked this episode! Not too much to say that hasn't already been said. I just enjoyed seeing the designs.

Title: Re: Growing Up is Hard to Do
Post by: Al-1701 on September 29, 2019, 05:03:08 PM

The Dorothy reference was a given with a tornado monster.

Title: Re: Growing Up is Hard to Do
Post by: MJNSEIFER on September 30, 2019, 01:25:26 PM

Quote from: milkywaymochi on September 29, 2019, 10:25:23 AM

 This episode also basically confirmed that scootaloo will never be able to fly. if you look at it as the pegasus equivalent of being physically disabled, I can kind of appreciate them going for that option; though who knows if that's what they intended, or if they just couldn't be bothered to give a definite answer.  :shrug:

Has this been outright confirmed in this episode via words?  Because;

The size of the wings shouldn't really make a difference.

Even if they do, it could just be that they litterally grew as they were - it doesn't have to reflect their true growth, unless the episode says it does (I have not watched any Season 9 episodes yet, but will soon.)

As a side note; anyone else think the CMC don't even look grown up in this?  I've seen pictures of them, and it just looks like they made their foal forms bigger - I think this is something the fandom did better.

Title: Re: Growing Up is Hard to Do
Post by: Al-1701 on September 30, 2019, 04:11:18 PM

I still want to know how her wings can produce the thrust needed to push her scooter through the dirt, but not to get her off the ground.

Title: Re: Growing Up is Hard to Do
Post by: MJNSEIFER on September 30, 2019, 04:18:27 PM

Quote from: Al-1701 on September 30, 2019, 04:11:18 PM

I still want to know how her wings can produce the thrust needed to push her scooter through the dirt, but not to get her off the ground.

It would make sense if they had just gone with "She hasn't figured it out yet" which is what Lauren said once (no, I'm not saying everything she says is gospel, this is just something she said.)  It would make it sound like there's no physical problem, she just doesn't know how to do it yet.


I'm definitely not saying my headcanon is gospel (especially as this particular one has been proved wrong), but if my headcanon of her parents being earth ponies had been right, it would have also helped.  Though I think her canon parents aren't around much, so it could still work - like she hasn't anyone to help her learn for years, so she never did.

Title: Re: Growing Up is Hard to Do
Post by: Zapper on October 03, 2019, 09:13:20 AM

This ep (like some other S9 ones) felt to me like it should have happened in an earlier season. It wasn't bad, just too late somehow.

I don't mind Scootaloo having small wings still. I take it as a form of disability or stunted growth.

I do mind Sweetie Belle getting instant eyeliner, tho :P That's dumb. She didn't inherit thick eyelashes, either. We all know Rarity's are fake :lol:

Title: Re: Growing Up is Hard to Do
Post by: MJNSEIFER on October 03, 2019, 01:13:51 PM

Quote from: Zapper on October 03, 2019, 09:13:20 AM

This ep (like some other S9 ones) felt to me like it should have happened in an earlier season. It wasn't bad, just too late somehow.

I tend to get that feeling with some of the later-season episodes, like season four-onwards (I know season four isn't recent), like they would have made more sense in season one, or even before season one - if that was possible.

Title: Re: Growing Up is Hard to Do
Post by: StarSwirl05 on October 05, 2019, 09:11:35 AM

Spoiler

It felt like they were learning the same lesson from seasons ago about waiting to grow up. I also didn't get the out-of-the-blue transformation with the dog. There wasn't any explanation for it. It just happened and then of course Fluttershy came in and spent 5 seconds on it and everything was hunky dory again. Getting pretty tired of that with Fluttershy.

Title: Re: Growing Up is Hard to Do
Post by: Shadowperla on October 05, 2019, 12:54:54 PM

I always assumed that Scootaloo not flying was a hidden jab at non-g4 having stylised small wings...still hoped she'll grow working :(

Title: Re: Growing Up is Hard to Do
Post by: Zapper on October 06, 2019, 02:53:40 AM

Quote from: Shadowperla on October 05, 2019, 12:54:54 PM

I always assumed that Scootaloo not flying was a hidden jab at non-g4 having stylised small wings.

It really says something about G4 when so many things can be interpreted as "jabs" at G1-G3 :|

Title: Re: Growing Up is Hard to Do
Post by: MJNSEIFER on October 06, 2019, 03:45:28 AM

To be honest, I always found myself assuming there were more homages to G1-G3.5 than "jabs" - I was wrong on a few accounts, like (pegasus) G1 Twilight's cutie mark being on Twilight Sparkle's door at the Golden Oak Library (it was a coincidence), but I always founded it easier to assume they were celebrating the older generations than mocking them, especially in a bad way.

Title: Re: Growing Up is Hard to Do
Post by: sd_dreamcrystal on October 06, 2019, 06:03:50 AM

I think at the start, some points may have been to pay homage to the older gens... but basically after staff changes that may have not been the case.

Any, it's weird to me that Scoots wings are they way they are... especially since all the other Pegasus foals that are about her age have the exact same wings as her, though still possible they would have been stunted... but what is really weird is that wouldn't they have grown just a bit more with her? It looks like the animators decided just to c/p her original wing size right onto her supposed adult body... but I could be mistaken

Title: Re: Growing Up is Hard to Do
Post by: Zapper on October 06, 2019, 06:13:14 AM

Quote from: MJNSEIFER on October 06, 2019, 03:45:28 AM

To be honest, I always found myself assuming there were more homages to G1-G3.5 than "jabs" - I was wrong on a few accounts, like (pegasus) G1 Twilight's cutie mark being on Twilight Sparkle's door at the Golden Oak Library (it was a coincidence)

Wait, what? That was a mere coincidence? They should have claimed it since it made so much sense as an Easter Egg.

Title: Re: Growing Up is Hard to Do
Post by: StarSwirl05 on October 06, 2019, 10:13:46 AM

Quote from: MJNSEIFER on September 30, 2019, 01:25:26 PM

Quote from: milkywaymochi on September 29, 2019, 10:25:23 AM

 This episode also basically confirmed that scootaloo will never be able to fly. if you look at it as the pegasus equivalent of being physically disabled, I can kind of appreciate them going for that option; though who knows if that's what they intended, or if they just couldn't be bothered to give a definite answer.  :shrug:

Has this been outright confirmed in this episode via words?  Because;

I believe Lauren Faust herself said somewhere that Scootaloo was never intended to fly.

Title: Re: Growing Up is Hard to Do
Post by: MJNSEIFER on October 06, 2019, 01:39:21 PM

Quote from: Zapper on October 06, 2019, 06:13:14 AM

Wait, what? That was a mere coincidence? They should have claimed it since it made so much sense as an Easter Egg.

I heard someone say that it was revealed that it was a coincidence, but I have not heard the creators say it.  It's a shame if it is, because it looked like a clever way to do a shout out all things considered.  I remember getting quite excited when I noticed it...

Quote from: StarSwirl05 on October 06, 2019, 10:13:46 AM

I believe Lauren Faust herself said somewhere that Scootaloo was never intended to fly.

She did, but she also said that the reason Scootaloo hasn't flown yet was because she hadn't "figured it out yet", suggesting that the storyline of her never flying was scrapped, at least while Lauren was still around, be it her choice or not.