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Title: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: LadyMoondancer on May 01, 2019, 07:09:23 AM
Here's the trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLGY_cWF9lk&t=3s

Spoiler
THE TEETH
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: Ponyfan on May 01, 2019, 07:32:14 AM
Spoiler
To me Sonic is animated/CGI terribly. Sonic in Disney's Wreck it Ralph looked 100s times more like Sonic than this does. That scene where Sonic pretends to be a cat and Jim Carey shots him with the tranquilizer dart looks so off to me.   I'd spent many happy hours playing Sonic games but this movie is a big no for me.





Ponyfan
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on May 01, 2019, 07:51:24 AM
Spoiler
His design for this movie definitely gives me an uncanny valley feel....
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: Moonbreeze on May 01, 2019, 08:14:06 AM
Spoiler
Y-i-k-e-s  :yikes:
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 01, 2019, 09:21:32 AM
Bwahahaha! I saw that and it looks like a hilariously stupid trainwreck! X'D  I desperately wish to know what those people were on, and how much they took, when they made this thing.

I don't see it doing any better or worse then movies like The Chipmunks or Garfield, seeing how its in the same, generic, vein. Paint-by-the-numbers and all that.

I also refuse to spend money on it. Maybe one day I'll watch it when its on tv and I'm bored.
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: melodys_angel on May 01, 2019, 09:23:04 AM
Ill still see it (im a genesis girl) but I agree with the spoiler comments above. 
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: banditpony on May 01, 2019, 09:31:48 AM
Nope!

Awful character design. While I don't expect a 1:1 character ratio (although the Pokemon movie shows that can work), I did expect something more in lines what I've seen anthro characters look like.

I'm not cool with human legs on Sonic.
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on May 01, 2019, 09:36:42 AM
Cursed movie.
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 01, 2019, 09:46:17 AM
I also have a problem with them casting Jim Carrey. Because whenever he plays a pre-established character, it is drowned out by Jim Carrey.

For example, when Patrick Stewart is put into roles, he becomes them. He is Professor Xavier.

When Robin Williams was Pop-Eye, he became Pop-Eye.

That's what acting is about, becoming the character while putting a bit of your own spin on it.

When I look at him, I don't see Dr. Robotnik. I just see Jim Carrey in goggles and a fake mustache.
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: Harmonie on May 01, 2019, 10:27:30 AM
They've created quite an abomination, and I just really can't understand why. They kept Sonic quite cartoony, but they didn't make an accurate design at all, which I just don't understand why if they were going to keep him cartoony. This just isn't the design of Sonic. It's like some cheap knock-off version. It reminds me of CD-i Zelda versus real Zelda.
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: StrawberrySundance on May 01, 2019, 11:18:31 AM
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My friend sent me the trailer on our group chat yesterday, I'm not going to lie but I actually had to pause the trailer halfway through and  Google the cast because I couldn't tell who Jim Carrey was supposed to be, I thought he was playing a whole new villain XD To be honest if they had animated both Dr Eggman and Sonic (including the rest of the sonic cast if they're in) it'd make more sense since they are from the same game universe and they're supposed to be cartoony, I don't think they translate well as what ever CGI realistic approach they're supposed to be XD. Actually no scrap that, if sonic is animated as he is I don't want to imagine what Robotnik would look like :freak: I don't have a problem with Jim Carrey but I don't think he suits the role as Robotnik, yes he has the mustache and goggles but nothing else that actually represents who he is supposed to be.
If they animated it like they did in Wreck it Ralph, Sonic CD/Mania or even Sonic Boom I might of thought to go and see it, but after watching that trailer...yikes, his legs...oh man they disturb me so much. I grew up with Sonic Adventure, SA 2 Battle, Heroes and Sonic 3D blast and it kinda of disappoints me to see what was part of most of our childhoods/adulthoods has been turned into... nightmare fuel :yikes: 
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: bright rabbit 1 on May 01, 2019, 11:24:24 AM
Sonic’s smile reminds me of Titans in Attack on Titan
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: SaraMari on May 01, 2019, 11:45:10 AM
Why do they keep making these cartoon/game franchises into these shoddy "CGI characters in the real world" movies? Can't they just make entirely CGI movies like Sonic in a world of the games not the real human world. Why does there have to be some random human protagonist and plotline? And can't the designs be good?
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: bright rabbit 1 on May 01, 2019, 11:51:31 AM
Why do they keep making these cartoon/game franchises into these shoddy "CGI characters in the real world" movies? Can't they just make entirely CGI movies like Sonic in a world of the games not the real human world. Why does there have to be some random human protagonist and plotline? And can't the designs be good?

Blame the TV show Sonic X
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: Pinkie21 on May 01, 2019, 11:56:15 AM
Will Smith’s Genie ain’t looking so bad now, it it? XD
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: SpacePinto on May 01, 2019, 01:49:48 PM
I don't even like modern movies and never played any of the Sonic games but I actually like it :satisfied:
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: Ragamuffin on May 01, 2019, 01:58:48 PM
This is the best thing I have ever seen in my life. I am a changed person after seeing this trailer. Humanity has changed after seeing this trailer.

I love it. I love everything about it. This is going to be a MUST SEE film.
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: StrawberrySundance on May 01, 2019, 02:04:42 PM
Maybe whoever came up with this watched that awful 1993 Super Mario Bros. Movie and thought, 'Hey I bet we can do worse' XD
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: Miniature Sheep on May 01, 2019, 02:22:02 PM
Oh my goodness, this thread has made my day. :haha:

The trailer has caused me to have some mixed feelings... being a dreamer, I think it'd be nice to have a decent Sonic film set within his own universe, embracing the cartoony feel throughout and actually feeling like a good old-fashioned Sonic dealio in terms of the plot, but the cynical part of me thinks this cgi-and-live-action mash could prove to to be incredibly amusing purely for how blatantly mishandled it will inevitably turn out to be... XD
Also, it feels like a pointless thing to be freaked out by but I can't stand that nose. It just looks really unpleasant to me for some reason.  :blink:
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: SpaceButtPonies on May 01, 2019, 02:35:14 PM
Who ever made Sonic's design needs to be fired and put in the corner of shame.
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: Mewtwofan1 on May 01, 2019, 03:03:39 PM
     My friends and I have been talking about this aaalll day. And the general consensus is: it’s awful and needs to be destroyed. The trailer is so bad, when I showed my mom, she thought it was fan made. Nope. This is a legit thing.
     I kinda want to see it though, just to see if it’s that bad. Not in theatres (don’t wanna spend money to see this) though. I like sonic. As a cartoon. If they made this fully animated and not live action, I might have a better view on it. Make sonic less human. He isn’t supposed to have human teeth or human legs. His shoes aren’t supposed to be off brand nike runners.
    But just think. People who went to school for film, executives in marketing, they all worked on this and thought “yup! Looks good!”
Who ever made Sonic's design needs to be fired and put in the corner of shame.

exactly. Except the corner of shame needs to be on the moon or in a remote corner of earth. Away from any other executives who might greenlight something else.
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: LadyMoondancer on May 01, 2019, 03:24:20 PM
Like other people have said, the plot looks really mediocre and cookie cutter.  Which makes me sad, because if the movie were as weird and bad as  CGI Sonic then I think this could be an amazing bad movie for watching with friends.

I can't get over how bad he looks.  I feel so bad for Sonic fans, but at the same time it does kind of delight me in some perverse way.  Like, it's not even just "Oh, that's a bad representation of Sonic."  No, even if it were an original character it's just COMPLETELY HIDEOUS.  I know I mentioned his teeeeeeth before, but I also hate his hands and I truly do not understand why they made them covered with white fur instead of giving him gloves?   I just??

At the very least, this movie has sparked a lot of great memes.  Maybe that was it's true purpose in this world.

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Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 01, 2019, 03:42:00 PM
Will Smith’s Genie ain’t looking so bad now, it it? XD

That may be pushing things a bit pink. XD
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: Zapper on May 02, 2019, 10:53:01 AM
So I never gave a crap about Sonic (other than thinking the theme song to the cartoon where they are somehow freedom fighters was bomb, lol), but this is some godawful CG character design. Whoever thought it was wise to give him this weirdly humanoid body and human teeth needs to reevaluate their choices.
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on May 02, 2019, 11:24:04 AM
Someone did a mockup (https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/axpttd/it_was_that_simple/) of what he would look like with the silhouette we're used to and it looks so much better?
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Detective Pikachu looks so much better design-wise. They could have ditched the realistic fur and stuff too and it would look so much more appealing.
Also, the poor guy (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005188/) who looks like Sonic's co-star was also in Hop. Looks like he can't catch a break.  :P
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: LadyMoondancer on May 02, 2019, 12:31:25 PM
They could also have gone the "Space Jam" route and just had him be a 2-D cartoon.  They could have showed Sonic coming from a world which is completely cartoon.

Rewatching the trailer, the part where Sonic is in the passenger seat looks so bad and fake.   

I also heard a rumor that Sega didn't have much creative control and are now furious.  Don't know if that's true, but . . . I would be if I were them, lol.
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: Mewtwofan1 on May 02, 2019, 02:28:19 PM
Rewatching the trailer, the part where Sonic is in the passenger seat looks so bad and fake.   

I also heard a rumor that Sega didn't have much creative control and are now furious.  Don't know if that's true, but . . . I would be if I were them, lol.
     Oooohhhh...I hope it’s true, because if it isn’t, and sega truly did have creative control, I think Sega might be actively trying to kill off the sonic franchise.
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: Ponyfan on May 02, 2019, 03:29:04 PM
I heard that due to all of the negative reactions to the trailer Sonic will be redesigned from what we've seen in the trailer. I hope it's true.



Ponyfan
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on May 02, 2019, 03:37:26 PM
I heard that due to all of the negative reactions to the trailer Sonic will be redesigned from what we've seen in the trailer. I hope it's true.



Ponyfan
Polygon article! (https://www.polygon.com/2019/5/2/18527449/sonic-the-hedgehog-movie-design-change-director)
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: Beldarna on May 02, 2019, 11:52:46 PM
Yeah, didn't like what I saw. It's not a Sonic movie, it's a new Jim Carrey movie which happen to have a human character in some hedghehoglike costume in it. I truly hope they redo him, for the sake of the fans. Hubby loves Sonic and was so exctied when the first rumors about a movie came. This trailer was just awful.
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: Twizel on May 03, 2019, 06:09:02 AM
I got the impression the makers of that trailer were trying to jump on the Detective Pikachu wagon. It doesn't really work well with Sonic, though.
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: bright rabbit 1 on May 03, 2019, 06:18:46 AM
I got the impression the makers of that trailer were trying to jump on the Detective Pikachu wagon. It doesn't really work well with Sonic, though.

Only works on Detective Pikachu
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on May 03, 2019, 06:49:51 AM
I got the impression the makers of that trailer were trying to jump on the Detective Pikachu wagon. It doesn't really work well with Sonic, though.
I think the difference was they kept the sillhouettes for the pokemon. Sure, some of them are a bit creepy, but they look just like the cartoon.
Sonic's sillhouette got all messed up. His feet are too small, he's got a weird snout, and he's too humanoid. Even with Mr. Mime, who is the most humanlike, he still looks like an expanded cartoon and retains the sillhouette.
Maybe they need to hire some designers from the Detective Pikachu movie to show them that it's ok to have him look just like a furrier version of his game appearances.
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: banditpony on May 03, 2019, 07:37:19 AM
I have doubts about the redesign. It seems like an awful amount of work in general in too short of time. :/ I feel bad for the ones that are going to need to scramble to get it done.
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: melodys_angel on May 03, 2019, 10:18:58 AM
'gotta fix fast'

There was a fan made rendition that actually looks a ton better..so its possible.
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: banditpony on May 03, 2019, 10:43:08 AM
'gotta fix fast'

There was a fan made rendition that actually looks a ton better..so its possible.

The redesign isn't what would take a long time. (And a quick and dirty photoshop job, takes no time at all-- they need to redo the 3D model). But re animating him and placing him in the scenes and all of that will take time. If he's shorter (which they better chop those legs in half!), the way he interacts with the human characters all needs to be altered as well.

Nothing looks good when done fast. -_- pure irony.
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: LadyMoondancer on May 03, 2019, 11:54:42 AM
'gotta fix fast'

:lmao:
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: brightberry on May 03, 2019, 12:23:40 PM
I used to play Sonic.  But... I never envisioned a movie for him.  Just the idea sounds awful. Then let loose Jim Carrey? Nope.  I love Jim Carrey in more serious films, but not when they just let him fill the void.
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: Beldarna on May 03, 2019, 10:59:58 PM
Apparently there is this theory going around now that the makers made two Sonics, the one in the trailer and a goodlooking one. They showed the 'wrong' one to get peoples attention so more will go and see the actual movie with the "remade" one. It sounds like a longshot to me, and a waste of money cause they do take time to do, but on the other hand, crazier things has happened.
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: Zapper on May 04, 2019, 02:49:20 AM
Apparently there is this theory going around now that the makers made two Sonics, the one in the trailer and a goodlooking one. They showed the 'wrong' one to get peoples attention so more will go and see the actual movie with the "remade" one. It sounds like a longshot to me, and a waste of money cause they do take time to do, but on the other hand, crazier things has happened.

That sounds like such a waste of work and money. Of course these big corps have money to spare but nowadays a movie is considered a "flop" if it doesn't gross an obscene amount of money in the first few days.
Why would they tamper with their liscense and make fans - the people most likely to support the movie - angry in the first place?
I realize there is a lot of scams and staged outrage going on these days to get attention but this is Sonic. Sonic is just Sonic. Lol, I just can't believe this conspiracy theory because of Sonic, I admit.
What would it gain them? Before/After online articles? Fans boycotting the movie because they are already fed up?

Okay, now I will keep an eye on this thread just to see the final Sonic. They got me :lol:

Already got me listening to the old Sonic Underground themesong on loop.
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: LadyMoondancer on May 04, 2019, 08:50:50 PM
To me it's an Occam's Razor thing:  the simplest explanation is the most likely.  IMO the simplest explanation is that they just were too close to the movie to realize how trash Sonic looks.

I'm not sure if they fully realize it even now.  Like, the problem isn't "he doesn't look close enough to the video game character", the problem is "he looks like an unsettling cryptid."  I hope they aren't just going to put gloves on him and assume that solves the issue (although at least that would hide his freaky hands which I haaaate).
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 04, 2019, 09:07:45 PM
That's cool and all, but that doesn't fix the actual problem. The movie looks like its going to be dumb. Hilariously dumb granted, but dumb in all the ways that won't appeal to fans or non-fans.

Doing this is like getting a professional to decorate a cake that tastes like crap and thinking it'll magically make it taste better.
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: gemini_pony on May 04, 2019, 09:10:37 PM
That's cool and all, but that doesn't fix the actual problem. The movie looks dumb and cookie cutter.

Doing this is like getting a professional to decorate a cake that tastes like crap and thinking it'll magically make it taste better.

This is very true...
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: banditpony on May 05, 2019, 06:22:29 AM
That's cool and all, but that doesn't fix the actual problem. The movie looks like its going to be dumb. Hilariously dumb granted, but dumb in all the ways that won't appeal to fans or non-fans.

I'm fine with the dumb part-- because sometimes my brain needs dumb.

I'm gonna eat a hoho every now and then, despite it tasting like junk. ;) If my hoho had a adorable piped Sonic, that would be great!

But there's no way I'd watch it with Sonic looking the way he does now. That's just disrespect to me, and I refuse to support that. (I'm not sure how big of a Sonic fan I am, as I only played the original sega games, and sonic mania).
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: tikibirds on May 05, 2019, 06:51:29 AM
Eh..he looks like sonic to me - just with hair and taller... :huh:

Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: Carrehz on May 05, 2019, 07:36:35 AM
Oh my god what is up with those LIPS they gave him?!?! :scared: :yikes:
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: gemini_pony on May 05, 2019, 07:50:35 AM
He looks like a a thumbnail to a creepy pasta xD
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: mlp4me on May 06, 2019, 09:09:55 AM
Spoiler
Yeah, gah, those teeth, I thought I was the only one. Wowza. LOL.
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: melodys_angel on May 06, 2019, 09:30:34 AM
Well, heres hoping they can make him atleast somewhat recognizable.

Im a genesis girl so will probably still watch it..but if they don't shorten him up and give him proper legs and gloves im going ot be twitchy the whole way through.
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: Taffeta on May 08, 2019, 05:35:34 AM
Ok so with all the discussion in the comparison thread I went and watched it.

Not being a Sonic fan I'm not fundamentally offended by his animation. I just think it looks stupid...is that allowed to say? But I really don't like this kind of cgi character in real world movie kind of setting. It's meant to be animated. Animate all of it -.-.

The thing that creeped me out the most was Gangsta's Paradise running through the whole trailer. I mean, yeah. really? From Dangerous Minds to an animated blue nailbrush? (Not a comment on Sonic overall, that's just what this version looks like to me)

Also my experience with seeing what they did to Jem tells me that movie companies don't care about the original they're wrecking until it threatens their box office takings. Jem crashed because they didn't listen soon enough...
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: Ponyfan on May 08, 2019, 09:32:51 AM
Ok so with all the discussion in the comparison thread I went and watched it.

Not being a Sonic fan I'm not fundamentally offended by his animation. I just think it looks stupid...is that allowed to say? But I really don't like this kind of cgi character in real world movie kind of setting. It's meant to be animated. Animate all of it -.-.

The thing that creeped me out the most was Gangsta's Paradise running through the whole trailer. I mean, yeah. really? From Dangerous Minds to an animated blue nailbrush? (Not a comment on Sonic overall, that's just what this version looks like to me)

Also my experience with seeing what they did to Jem tells me that movie companies don't care about the original they're wrecking until it threatens their box office takings. Jem crashed because they didn't listen soon enough...


I'm a big fan of the animated Jem and the Holograms. I can't stand the Jem movie and have only been able to watch around 10-20 minutes of it. To me it has nothing to do with Jem and the only used character names from Jem to make a totally different story. If I remember correctly they changed Jerrica's age from a young adult to a teenager also.



Ponyfan
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: Taffeta on May 08, 2019, 09:39:59 AM


I'm a big fan of the animated Jem and the Holograms. I can't stand the Jem movie and have only been able to watch around 10-20 minutes of it. To me it has nothing to do with Jem and the only used character names from Jem to make a totally different story. If I remember correctly they changed Jerrica's age from a young adult to a teenager also.



Ponyfan

Exactly.
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: Sora on May 09, 2019, 12:00:17 PM
That's cool and all, but that doesn't fix the actual problem. The movie looks like its going to be dumb. Hilariously dumb granted, but dumb in all the ways that won't appeal to fans or non-fans.
As a long time Sonic fan (he was the very first character in my life that I ever became attached to), I'm not so much worried about how dumb it might be, but I am concerned about the lack of Sonic's friends in this.

The reason I fell in love with Sonic was because of him and his world. I loved Robotnik being the only human in the games, and I adored all of Sonic's friends (and enemies). So what did they do with the live action? Make yet another movie which drops all of that so we can spend more time with other human characters. I know some have speculated that this is a prequel, but I still feel disappointed. It reminds me of the live action Smurf movies, when they decided to drag the Smurfs into our world when it was their world which people fell in love with.
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: Taffeta on May 10, 2019, 01:04:59 AM
Lets not forget humans taking over transformers...

Sometimes it is good to remember that people are not as interesting as movies make out...especially given the fact they repeat the exact same humour style and tropes across every movie in this kind of demographic.

And it really isn't all that funny.

This particularly springs to mind as I just saw the secret life of pets 2 trailer and that about maxed out my tolerance for that style of humour. It's not that it never works, just that it is in every. single. such film and it's in the Sonic trailer too. And it's just...way overused, way overdone, and thus not actually that clever or funny.
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: Wardah on May 11, 2019, 09:36:26 AM
Ok so with all the discussion in the comparison thread I went and watched it.

Not being a Sonic fan I'm not fundamentally offended by his animation. I just think it looks stupid...is that allowed to say? But I really don't like this kind of cgi character in real world movie kind of setting. It's meant to be animated. Animate all of it -.-.

The thing that creeped me out the most was Gangsta's Paradise running through the whole trailer. I mean, yeah. really? From Dangerous Minds to an animated blue nailbrush? (Not a comment on Sonic overall, that's just what this version looks like to me)

Also my experience with seeing what they did to Jem tells me that movie companies don't care about the original they're wrecking until it threatens their box office takings. Jem crashed because they didn't listen soon enough...


I'm a big fan of the animated Jem and the Holograms. I can't stand the Jem movie and have only been able to watch around 10-20 minutes of it. To me it has nothing to do with Jem and the only used character names from Jem to make a totally different story. If I remember correctly they changed Jerrica's age from a young adult to a teenager also.



Ponyfan

Honestly I could have lived with them making her younger to be more "relevant" but the costume design was bland. Jem was about over the top lewks. And a live action Sonic could be acceptable if he actually looks like Sonic.
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 13, 2019, 04:00:15 PM
That's cool and all, but that doesn't fix the actual problem. The movie looks like its going to be dumb. Hilariously dumb granted, but dumb in all the ways that won't appeal to fans or non-fans.
As a long time Sonic fan (he was the very first character in my life that I ever became attached to), I'm not so much worried about how dumb it might be, but I am concerned about the lack of Sonic's friends in this.

The reason I fell in love with Sonic was because of him and his world. I loved Robotnik being the only human in the games, and I adored all of Sonic's friends (and enemies). So what did they do with the live action? Make yet another movie which drops all of that so we can spend more time with other human characters. I know some have speculated that this is a prequel, but I still feel disappointed. It reminds me of the live action Smurf movies, when they decided to drag the Smurfs into our world when it was their world which people fell in love with.

Trust me I watched several of the cartoons and enjoyed two and have played several games. I know.
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: Taffeta on May 14, 2019, 01:31:26 PM
Ok so with all the discussion in the comparison thread I went and watched it.

Not being a Sonic fan I'm not fundamentally offended by his animation. I just think it looks stupid...is that allowed to say? But I really don't like this kind of cgi character in real world movie kind of setting. It's meant to be animated. Animate all of it -.-.

The thing that creeped me out the most was Gangsta's Paradise running through the whole trailer. I mean, yeah. really? From Dangerous Minds to an animated blue nailbrush? (Not a comment on Sonic overall, that's just what this version looks like to me)

Also my experience with seeing what they did to Jem tells me that movie companies don't care about the original they're wrecking until it threatens their box office takings. Jem crashed because they didn't listen soon enough...


I'm a big fan of the animated Jem and the Holograms. I can't stand the Jem movie and have only been able to watch around 10-20 minutes of it. To me it has nothing to do with Jem and the only used character names from Jem to make a totally different story. If I remember correctly they changed Jerrica's age from a young adult to a teenager also.



Ponyfan

Honestly I could have lived with them making her younger to be more "relevant" but the costume design was bland. Jem was about over the top lewks. And a live action Sonic could be acceptable if he actually looks like Sonic.

Well, Jerrica was already pretty young, but the core of the whole Jem plot is tied up with Starlight Music, her controlling it, her wresting it back from Eric and then constantly protecting it in order to support the Starlight Girls. And when you take that out of the plot you no longer have Jem.

And I hate the character Jem with a passion, and Jerrica often annoys me. But at least I can give her credit for having a REASON for being so uptight so much of the time.

Although the movie didn't have a chance to really trash the Misfits so that was ok. What offended me most about it was Synergy. Because I love Synergy, but in modern terms, with Hatsune Miku and so on, it's not such an alien concept. So do they use this..? No. No they don't.

I'm afraid "LOL Youtube for kicks" is not a replacement for "finding a new home for foster girls after losing control of music company to a jerk" in terms of plot setup.

The film would've been fine for the audience it targeted if it wasn't trying to be Jem, though. The audience it was targeted at probably didn't know or care what Jem was, thus using the names etc was unnecessary. The people who cared about Jem and would have engaged with it were the ones who remember Jem - thus trying to cater at least a bit to the actual plot basics would've been a good idea?

I think with shows like Stranger Things, it's proven that setting it in the 1980s wouldn't have been a problem. But they didn't really think like that.

Jem is the one eighties kids series that shouldn't be rebooted in my view in a modern context as it only could have existed in the eighties. But if updating it was going to happen, there's still room to keep the basic plot to make it respectable.

...Going back to Sonic, I feel like more people know about Sonic over a longer period and to the present than with Jem, but it does feel like this film is a bit in the same vein of taking advantage of known names and fandoms to try and get an easy hit...?
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: LadyMoondancer on May 15, 2019, 08:45:35 AM
So I watched Detective Pikachu (really enjoyed it) and the Sonic trailer played ahead of it.

I was kind of expecting some unkind snickers, but what the trailer got was even worse:  dead silence.  Including during all the Jim Carrey parts.  It was soooo awkward.  The only thing that got a chuckle was the ending duffle bag joke.
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: Zapper on May 15, 2019, 09:48:04 AM
I also want to add that I think Jim Carrey is so miscast in this. He is a serious actor but as a comedian he is always the same. It worked in the past (loved Ace Ventura and even his Carrey-Grinch) but nowadays are people really checking for his antics anymore? Truman Show Carrey would have sufficed. Or no Carrey at all considering he doesn't even look the part.
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: Ponyfan on May 16, 2019, 01:19:08 PM
Ok so with all the discussion in the comparison thread I went and watched it.

Not being a Sonic fan I'm not fundamentally offended by his animation. I just think it looks stupid...is that allowed to say? But I really don't like this kind of cgi character in real world movie kind of setting. It's meant to be animated. Animate all of it -.-.

The thing that creeped me out the most was Gangsta's Paradise running through the whole trailer. I mean, yeah. really? From Dangerous Minds to an animated blue nailbrush? (Not a comment on Sonic overall, that's just what this version looks like to me)

Also my experience with seeing what they did to Jem tells me that movie companies don't care about the original they're wrecking until it threatens their box office takings. Jem crashed because they didn't listen soon enough...


I'm a big fan of the animated Jem and the Holograms. I can't stand the Jem movie and have only been able to watch around 10-20 minutes of it. To me it has nothing to do with Jem and the only used character names from Jem to make a totally different story. If I remember correctly they changed Jerrica's age from a young adult to a teenager also.



Ponyfan

Honestly I could have lived with them making her younger to be more "relevant" but the costume design was bland. Jem was about over the top lewks. And a live action Sonic could be acceptable if he actually looks like Sonic.

Well, Jerrica was already pretty young, but the core of the whole Jem plot is tied up with Starlight Music, her controlling it, her wresting it back from Eric and then constantly protecting it in order to support the Starlight Girls. And when you take that out of the plot you no longer have Jem.

And I hate the character Jem with a passion, and Jerrica often annoys me. But at least I can give her credit for having a REASON for being so uptight so much of the time.

Although the movie didn't have a chance to really trash the Misfits so that was ok. What offended me most about it was Synergy. Because I love Synergy, but in modern terms, with Hatsune Miku and so on, it's not such an alien concept. So do they use this..? No. No they don't.

I'm afraid "LOL Youtube for kicks" is not a replacement for "finding a new home for foster girls after losing control of music company to a jerk" in terms of plot setup.

The film would've been fine for the audience it targeted if it wasn't trying to be Jem, though. The audience it was targeted at probably didn't know or care what Jem was, thus using the names etc was unnecessary. The people who cared about Jem and would have engaged with it were the ones who remember Jem - thus trying to cater at least a bit to the actual plot basics would've been a good idea?

I think with shows like Stranger Things, it's proven that setting it in the 1980s wouldn't have been a problem. But they didn't really think like that.

Jem is the one eighties kids series that shouldn't be rebooted in my view in a modern context as it only could have existed in the eighties. But if updating it was going to happen, there's still room to keep the basic plot to make it respectable.



If I remember correctly didn't Eric mention in one the first episodes that he was embezzling money from Starlight Music and that was one of his reasons for trying to stop Jerrica from taking control of it?


I also hated what the live action Jem movie did to Synergy.




Ponyfan
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: Ponyfan on May 25, 2019, 05:32:33 AM
I head this movie has been delayed until 2020.

Ponyfan
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on May 25, 2019, 08:19:35 AM
I head this movie has been delayed until 2020.

Ponyfan
Sauce. (https://io9.gizmodo.com/its-official-the-sonic-the-hedgehog-movie-is-being-pus-1835006775)
I guess this disproves the theory that the movie studio had planned to release a bad trailer to garner attention? Or maybe it doesn't disprove it at all...
I hope that this time they get it right.
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: melodys_angel on May 25, 2019, 09:49:52 AM
That's actually reassuring to hear^^
Title: Re: Sooo, that Sonic the Hedgehog trailer
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on May 25, 2019, 10:30:20 AM
That's good to hear, redesigning Sonic but still putting the movie out in November would have been tough for the animators.
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