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Title: Years on hooves, also re: Alt Birtflowers...
Post by: Taffeta on September 03, 2018, 03:03:25 PM
Hi all.
Tweaking some things for the Scrapbook while I have a bit of breathing space. But I don't have my collection in front of me, so would really appreciate some help with the years on hooves for different moulds or adapted moulds. I know some but not all without checking and may have made mistakes, so if anyone can help fill in the blanks or correct any errors, I'd be grateful.

Edit to add - I'm adding to the list from people's contributions in red, thank you for helping out :)


1982 stamp
Collector pose.

1983 stamp
Shy pose
Glory pose
Moondancer pose.
Firefly pose

1984 stamp
Tootsie pose
Walking pose
Adult Sea Pony (Wavedancer) pose
Baby Ember pose.
Baby Blossom Pose
Sparkler pose
Surprise pose
Baby sea pony facing forward (Celebrate) pose
Baby Glory pose
Early Baby Pegasus pose ??
Baby Sea Pony (head turned) pose

1985 stamp
Gingerbread pose
Rearing pose
Whizzer Pose
Masquerade Pose
Baby Tiddly Winks pose

1986 stamp
Flutter poses (Rosedust & Forget Me Not) - ?
Baby sea pony - looking up pose
BBE baby unicorn pose
Baby Lucky pose

1987 stamp
Flutter poses (Tropical Breeze & Cloud Puff)
Crumpet pose
Mimic pose
Scoops pose
Dancing Butterflies pose
Sundae Best - all
Second Set Princesses (all)
First tooth baby poses
Ribbs
WhirlyTwirl
(Baby brother ponies also?)
All newborn poses except Baby Bouncy (assumed)

1988 Stamp
Winger poses (all)
Sweetheart Sisters (all?)


1989 stamp
Teeny Weeny Ponies (all?)
Bride pose (not Princesses or Colorswirls)
Drink & Wet Poses - all?
Merry-Go-Round Ponies (all)

1990 Stamp
Baby Ballerina pose

1991 stamp
Baby Mermaids
Princesses with Eyelashes
Colorswirl Ponies

1993 Stamp
Baby Sapphire pose
Baby Bouncy newborn pose?


1994 Stamp
Surprise Twins pony pose (Hasbro Int'l)

Help needed with

baby pony poses - baby brothers (playtime set, Paws etc) and peekaboo babies still a mystery!

Sparkler and Surprise's poses - assuming 1984?

newborn pose dates. Guessing newborn poses may be 1987 but maybe wrong?


Teeny weenies - 1990 or 1991?


Are Wingers 1987 or 1988?

Are Sundae Best 1987 or 1988?

Are 2nd set Princesses 1987 or 1988?

What year are Merry Go Round Ponies?

What year is Pony Bride's pose?

What year are the Colorswirl Ponies?

Sweetheart Sister poses - 1988 or 1989?

Mermaids - 1991?

Adult Sea Ponies - Is it that Wavedancer's pose is 1983 and Is Sand Dollar's 1984?

Baby Sea Ponies - face forward and head turned pose?

I think Surprise Twins is 1993..?

Baby Sapphire - 1992 or 1993?

Also on a side note - If anyone has alt birthflower ponies and would be willing to consider donating images of some of them for my site I would be grateful. I only have Violet/February in my collection :) - Sorted! <3

I'm also looking for a good image of regular Cupcake. I have the So Soft, but I noticed I still have no image for regular Scandinavian/SA Cupcake...- Hopefully sorted soon!

Thanks for anyone who can chip in and correct or add to my list...
Title: Re: Years on hooves, also re: Alt Birtflowers...
Post by: Ponyfan on September 03, 2018, 03:19:20 PM
Here's what I found on my ponies so far. :)

Baby Mermaids -1991

Wingers (I used Skydancer) -1988

Sundae Best -1987

Baby Water Lilly- 1986

Ponyfan
Title: Re: Years on hooves, also re: Alt Birtflowers...
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on September 03, 2018, 03:29:06 PM
Teeny weenies - 1990 or 1991?
Little Giggles has 1989 on her hoof!
What year are Merry Go Round Ponies?
I've got 1989 on my Sunnybunch.
What year is Pony Bride's pose?
On the Dove symbol one? I've got 1989.
Sweetheart Sister poses - 1988 or 1989?
1988!
Title: Re: Years on hooves, also re: Alt Birtflowers...
Post by: Safflower on September 03, 2018, 04:47:53 PM
Here's what I got:

Teeny weenies:
My Bootsie has 89.

Wingers:
Buzzer and High Flyer's pose have 88 on their hoof.

Sundae Best:
I have the whole set plus doubles and they all say 87.

2nd set Princesses:
My Ruby, Moondust, and Taffeta say 87.

Merry Go Round:
My Sunnybunch, Tassels, and Flower Boquet have 89.

Pony Bride's pose:
My Princess Royal Pink has 91 and my three Pony Brides all have 89.

Sweetheart Sister poses:
The Spring Song, Dainty, and Fancy Flower all have 88.

Adult Sea Ponies:
My Sealight and Seawinkle say 84, so Wavedancer's pose is 84.

Baby Sea Ponies:
My Water Lily and Surfy say 86.
Title: Re: Years on hooves, also re: Alt Birtflowers...
Post by: NightGliderSA on September 04, 2018, 01:05:51 AM
Hi Taffeta, I will check my herd and see how I can help when I get home  :)

I do have Scandinavian (SA) Cupcake, but she has a forelock trim. I plan on fixing that for her (have the hair), but have not as yet got there. So I can send you photo's of her now, if you like, or wait until she has been restored. Up to you. Or perhaps someone has an untrimmed girl.
Title: Re: Years on hooves, also re: Alt Birtflowers...
Post by: Taffeta on September 04, 2018, 01:44:00 AM
Thanks all :) I've updated the list with adding names in red where appropriate :D

Still some queries to settle, so any help appreciated.

@NightGlider, I don't really mind, depending on how you feel about it :) Right now Cupcake's page has a big empty blob on it, so it would be great to get that filled :D
Title: Re: Years on hooves, also re: Alt Birtflowers...
Post by: starstrider on September 04, 2018, 01:50:59 AM
Also on a side note - If anyone has alt birthflower ponies and would be willing to consider donating images of some of them for my site I would be grateful. I only have Violet/February in my collection :)

Taffeta, I'd be happy to help.  I have the full set, so let me know the type of photos you want and I can take them for you.  I got the last one just this week, and I'm tickled pink! :biggrin:
Title: Re: Years on hooves, also re: Alt Birtflowers...
Post by: Taffeta on September 04, 2018, 02:25:57 AM
Also on a side note - If anyone has alt birthflower ponies and would be willing to consider donating images of some of them for my site I would be grateful. I only have Violet/February in my collection :)

Taffeta, I'd be happy to help.  I have the full set, so let me know the type of photos you want and I can take them for you.  I got the last one just this week, and I'm tickled pink! :biggrin:

That would be amazing, thank you :) Basically it's just clear images of each of them one by one, that show their symbol too if possible. I have Violet, so the other eleven would be great :)
Title: Re: Years on hooves, also re: Alt Birtflowers...
Post by: starstrider on September 04, 2018, 02:44:03 AM
Also on a side note - If anyone has alt birthflower ponies and would be willing to consider donating images of some of them for my site I would be grateful. I only have Violet/February in my collection :)

Taffeta, I'd be happy to help.  I have the full set, so let me know the type of photos you want and I can take them for you.  I got the last one just this week, and I'm tickled pink! :biggrin:

That would be amazing, thank you :) Basically it's just clear images of each of them one by one, that show their symbol too if possible. I have Violet, so the other eleven would be great :)

No worries, I can start with photos hopefully tomorrow when the light is best.  I can actually give you the Alt Alt December as well (reversed symbol colours), I'm lucky enough to have her too  :)
Title: Re: Years on hooves, also re: Alt Birtflowers...
Post by: Taffeta on September 04, 2018, 02:46:44 AM
Also on a side note - If anyone has alt birthflower ponies and would be willing to consider donating images of some of them for my site I would be grateful. I only have Violet/February in my collection :)

Taffeta, I'd be happy to help.  I have the full set, so let me know the type of photos you want and I can take them for you.  I got the last one just this week, and I'm tickled pink! :biggrin:

That would be amazing, thank you :) Basically it's just clear images of each of them one by one, that show their symbol too if possible. I have Violet, so the other eleven would be great :)

No worries, I can start with photos hopefully tomorrow when the light is best.  I can actually give you the Alt Alt December as well (reversed symbol colours), I'm lucky enough to have her too  :)


 :worshippy: to your collection, that's impressive. If you don't mind, that would be great.
Title: Re: Years on hooves, also re: Alt Birtflowers...
Post by: Ponyfan on September 04, 2018, 05:41:30 AM
I found a few more :)

Baby Ember-1984

Suprise pose-1984-Sparkle pony Twinkler

Baby Blossom pose-Baby Cotton Candy 1984

Sparkler pose-1984 -Dazzleglow 

Baby Celebrate-1984

BBE Unicorn - Baby Frosting 1986


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Years on hooves, also re: Alt Birtflowers...
Post by: Taffeta on September 04, 2018, 06:27:14 AM
Awesome, Ponyfan, you're a star :lovey:
Title: Re: Years on hooves, also re: Alt Birtflowers...
Post by: NightGliderSA on September 06, 2018, 01:11:55 AM
Hi Taffeta,

Wasn't online yesterday, but here is what I have for you (I added their countries just in case):

Baby Ponies:

1984:
Baby Cotton Candy - HK
Blue Ember - HK
Baby Glory - HK
Baby Moondancer - HK
Baby Rain Ribbon - China
Baby Stockings - China

1985:
Baby Tiddley Winks - HK

1986:
Baby Brother Sweet Celebrations - China
Baby Sister Sweet Celebrations - China

1987:
Baby Bouncy - HK
Baby Doodles - HK
Baby Fifi - HK
Baby Firefly - HK
Baby North Star - HK
Baby Shaggy - China
Baby Surprise - HK
Baby Tappy - China
Baby Toppy - HK

1989:
Baby Rain Feather - China

1990:
Baby Sweet Steps - China

I only have one baby sea pony, Baby Surf Rider. She has 1984 stamped on her.

I also checked all my carousel ponies, I have the full set, they were all 1989 and stamped China.

Hope that helps!  :)

I will take a photo of Cupcake on the weekend with a plain background; I do have photo's of her on my laptop now but they were taken in the garden... incidentally I believe she is slightly harder to find here than Truly. I have only seen one for sale in SA since I started collecting (the one I bought, and I was the only bidder) whereas 3 Truly's have come up in that time. I also hardly ever see her on eBay.
Title: Re: Years on hooves, also re: Alt Birtflowers...
Post by: BlushingBlue on September 06, 2018, 09:17:37 AM
The Colorswirl ponies are marked 1991 :)
Title: Re: Years on hooves, also re: Alt Birtflowers...
Post by: Taffeta on September 06, 2018, 09:28:42 AM
Thank you so much for taking the time to do that, NightGlider!!

And thanks BlushingBlue. That makes sense ..I think...
Title: Re: Years on hooves, also re: Alt Birtflowers...
Post by: RoseNoire on September 06, 2018, 09:47:21 AM
My Baby Sapphire is marked 1993 if I remember correctly. ^.^
[EDIT] I confirm, it's 1993
Title: Re: Years on hooves, also re: Alt Birtflowers...
Post by: NightGliderSA on September 07, 2018, 01:40:18 AM
Pleasure Taffeta!

Baby Ribbs told me off when I got home for forgetting about him - whoops! He is dated 1987 and stamped HK  :)
Title: Re: Years on hooves, also re: Alt Birtflowers...
Post by: Taffeta on September 07, 2018, 02:14:20 PM
@RoseNoire - t hanks. I thought it was 93 but I couldn't quite remember, it's such a late pose.

@NightGlider, you can't leave Ribbs out! O.O.

I've just got back today from a conference so I will look at the list and update it again maybe tomorrow...and then see what I still have gaps for. Really appreciate all the people who have taken time to look :D
Title: Re: Years on hooves, also re: Alt Birtflowers...
Post by: katrine2309 on September 08, 2018, 05:56:42 AM
I have checked all my newborns (Sticky, Sniffles, Wiggles and Tappy). They have all 1987 ;)

I also have alt. Birthflower Poppy- you are welcome to use any picture of her. I have these already, let me know if they work :)

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Title: Re: Years on hooves, also re: Alt Birtflowers...
Post by: NightGliderSA on September 11, 2018, 01:15:36 AM
Hi Taffeta,

Whizzer pose is 1985: checked.  :)

I'm pretty sure my Peach Blossom and Forget-me-not flutters were also stamped 1985. But perhaps I got that confused with 1986: small print and all. I will check.

The Mommy of the surprise twins is stamped 1994 HASBRO INTL INC - this is courtesy of ZuluSeashell, who has her. Interestingly (to me at least) there is not country of manufacture.

Cupcake is busy drying, should be ready for her photo shoot this afternoon  :)

Title: Re: Years on hooves, also re: Alt Birtflowers...
Post by: Khoufu on September 11, 2018, 02:53:03 PM
Ribbs Pose (Baby Paws) and Whirly Twirl pose are 1987. I see Ribbs is already listed but there's a space in the first post for some reason?
Title: Re: Years on hooves, also re: Alt Birtflowers...
Post by: Taffeta on September 11, 2018, 03:00:03 PM
Ribbs Pose (Baby Paws) and Whirly Twirl pose are 1987. I see Ribbs is already listed but there's a space in the first post for some reason?

Because I'm an idiot and edited it badly, that's all xD Thanks. The weird thing with those is that I think the bodies are the same for the brothers but the heads aren't...I'm assuming Paws etc have 1987 in spite of that...

@NightGlider - I remember Surprise Twins mama being Hasbro Int'l, I didn't realise she didn't have a manufacture country. Interesting...my sister's pony is in storage so even when I go home I can't check her, but I may need to peer at her card. I have a photo somewhere...
Title: Re: Years on hooves, also re: Alt Birtflowers...
Post by: BlushingBlue on September 11, 2018, 03:26:51 PM
Just to clarify, since there are lingering (?)s: both Pony Bride and Bridal Beauty are marked '89, and the eyelash princesses are '91 like the Colorswirls. (because..... reasons?)
Title: Re: Years on hooves, also re: Alt Birtflowers...
Post by: Taffeta on September 11, 2018, 03:32:13 PM
Just to clarify, since there are lingering (?)s: both Pony Bride and Bridal Beauty are marked '89, and the eyelash princesses are '91 like the Colorswirls. (because..... reasons?)

Okay. Yeah, that was a kind of (?!) on my list, but obviously there's some difference between the poses. I wonder what it is. I don't have a bride pony...my sister's ponies are in storage...but I may have one in my trade box and when I go home, I may have to do a comparison to see if I can figure out what they changed...

Thanks for confirming that, BlushingBlue.
Title: Re: Years on hooves, also re: Alt Birtflowers...
Post by: NightGliderSA on September 12, 2018, 01:27:42 AM
Hi Taffeta,

Whizzer pose is 1985: checked.  :)

I'm pretty sure my Peach Blossom and Forget-me-not flutters were also stamped 1985. But perhaps I got that confused with 1986: small print and all. I will check.

The Mommy of the surprise twins is stamped 1994 HASBRO INTL INC - this is courtesy of ZuluSeashell, who has her. Interestingly (to me at least) there is not country of manufacture.

Cupcake is busy drying, should be ready for her photo shoot this afternoon  :)

So, I checked: Peach Blossom and Forget-me-Not are actually dated 1986 but man that line to make the six not be a five is teeny tiny!

Mommy Pony Feet (pony belongs to ZuluSeashell):
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And as promised, Cupcake:
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She has the 'brown-grey' eye liner. I can try to take a photo of her next to SS Cupcake if you like as that may show the difference better
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Title: Re: Years on hooves, also re: Alt Birtflowers...
Post by: Taffeta on September 12, 2018, 01:59:45 AM
Hi Taffeta,

Whizzer pose is 1985: checked.  :)

I'm pretty sure my Peach Blossom and Forget-me-not flutters were also stamped 1985. But perhaps I got that confused with 1986: small print and all. I will check.

The Mommy of the surprise twins is stamped 1994 HASBRO INTL INC - this is courtesy of ZuluSeashell, who has her. Interestingly (to me at least) there is not country of manufacture.

Cupcake is busy drying, should be ready for her photo shoot this afternoon  :)

So, I checked: Peach Blossom and Forget-me-Not are actually dated 1986 but man that line to make the six not be a five is teeny tiny!

Mommy Pony Feet (pony belongs to ZuluSeashell):
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And as promised, Cupcake:
Spoiler
(the lighting on this one is not perfect: does not show how white she actually is, so I can retake if you like)
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She has the 'brown-grey' eye liner. I can try to take a photo of her next to SS Cupcake if you like as that may show the difference better
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Pre-rehairing buzz-cut look (this is not an original ribbon):
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Interesting! I have one photo of my sister's in a similar position to show the mechanism and as you say, she also has no manufacture country (I checked to make sure that they were all like this, and we hadn't discovered another variant or something xD).

I also dug out her card from my backcard pictures and it says she's made in China. Interestingly enough her card is also dated 1993 not 1994.
Title: Re: Years on hooves, also re: Alt Birtflowers...
Post by: katrine2309 on September 12, 2018, 09:23:12 AM
@Taffeta: not sure if you saw my previous post about the newborns?   ^.^ I have checked all mine (wiggles, sticky, sniffles and tappy) and my new collection contributions Speckles and Bunkie. They are all stamped 1987. Just wanted to give you a heads up since you have the newborns under 1988 in your original post ;)
Title: Re: Years on hooves, also re: Alt Birtflowers...
Post by: Taffeta on September 12, 2018, 09:37:32 AM
@Taffeta: not sure if you saw my previous post about the newborns?   ^.^ I have checked all mine (wiggles, sticky, sniffles and tappy) and my new collection contributions Speckles and Bunkie. They are all stamped 1987. Just wanted to give you a heads up since you have the newborns under 1988 in your original post ;)

This is almost certainly also because I'm an idiot. I meant to put them in 1987. Thanks for the heads up.
Title: Re: Years on hooves, also re: Alt Birtflowers...
Post by: BlushingBlue on September 12, 2018, 10:53:08 AM
I had a chance to up-end my Peek-a-boo Baby Noddins, and she's marked 1987.

As far as the bride pose goes, the only difference I can see (from my own individuals on hand) is that the 91s have ever-so-slightly wider necks. Their head mold overhangs their body at the join, whereas the 89/brides' necks are a bit smaller than their body. I guess that makes sense for the eyelash princesses, since they might need that extra 2mm of maneuverability to root the lashes, but I don't know why they would use continue to use the wider-necked mold for the Colorswirls but not for Bridal Beauty.
Title: Re: Years on hooves, also re: Alt Birtflowers...
Post by: cricket on September 16, 2018, 06:55:17 AM
My Sand Dollar is stamped 84.

For the Playtime Baby Brothers, Countdown and Waddles are stamped 88 and Racer, Leaper, Paws and Drummer are stamped 87.

Post Merge: September 16, 2018, 06:58:58 AM

All 6 of my Peekaboo babies are made in Hong Kong and stamped 87.
Title: Re: Years on hooves, also re: Alt Birtflowers...
Post by: Taffeta on September 16, 2018, 08:11:02 AM
My Sand Dollar is stamped 84.

For the Playtime Baby Brothers, Countdown and Waddles are stamped 88 and Racer, Leaper, Paws and Drummer are stamped 87.

Post Merge: September 16, 2018, 06:58:58 AM

All 6 of my Peekaboo babies are made in Hong Kong and stamped 87.

Thank you! I really appreciate it (and to everyone who has taken time to upturn their ponies and check their hooves/tails!)
Title: Re: Years on hooves, also re: Alt Birtflowers...
Post by: NightGliderSA on September 17, 2018, 01:04:01 AM
Hi Taffeta,

Whizzer pose is 1985: checked.  :)

I'm pretty sure my Peach Blossom and Forget-me-not flutters were also stamped 1985. But perhaps I got that confused with 1986: small print and all. I will check.

The Mommy of the surprise twins is stamped 1994 HASBRO INTL INC - this is courtesy of ZuluSeashell, who has her. Interestingly (to me at least) there is not country of manufacture.

Cupcake is busy drying, should be ready for her photo shoot this afternoon  :)

So, I checked: Peach Blossom and Forget-me-Not are actually dated 1986 but man that line to make the six not be a five is teeny tiny!

Mommy Pony Feet (pony belongs to ZuluSeashell):
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And as promised, Cupcake:
Spoiler
(the lighting on this one is not perfect: does not show how white she actually is, so I can retake if you like)
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She has the 'brown-grey' eye liner. I can try to take a photo of her next to SS Cupcake if you like as that may show the difference better
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Pre-rehairing buzz-cut look (this is not an original ribbon):
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Interesting! I have one photo of my sister's in a similar position to show the mechanism and as you say, she also has no manufacture country (I checked to make sure that they were all like this, and we hadn't discovered another variant or something xD).

I also dug out her card from my backcard pictures and it says she's made in China. Interestingly enough her card is also dated 1993 not 1994.

As you say: interesting! I wonder whether they were finalising the design or how to get the mechanism to work and that delayed them? Or they didn't yet have permission to actually produce the pony in China and went ahead anyway. Or something. It might also explain certain other NC ponies who don't look Spanish at all like Sundance and Bubble Fish (Wriggle Pocket?). Perhaps they were made in China too, but there was a (devious?) reason why 'China' was not stamped upon their hooves.
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