Hasbro's done more and more 80s themed posts on their Facebook this year, from putting the G4 ponies in 80s inspired "movie posters" to posting the shoo-be-doo sea pony song, and this morning this post:
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A recreation of a G1 lunchbox . . . made from Play-Doh, no less!
Flutterscotch, I didn't like plastic lunchboxes either. Metal lunchboxes forever! I got this retro lunchbox recently:
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I got it off Amazon, but I believe it's made by Loungefly.
I would have pined over that lunchbox as a kid.ohhhh ahhhh I had that lunchbox as a kid! came with a thermos too.
It might just be me, but when I was a kid it was kind of the cusp of changing from metal to plastic lunchboxes. And I just didn't like the plastic lunchboxes as much because they were completely flat (most of the lunchboxes I had were dimensional) and they felt way cheaper.
This would have been an awesome compromise.
Because this is just OK in my opinion.
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I would have pined over that lunchbox as a kid.ohhhh ahhhh I had that lunchbox as a kid! came with a thermos too.
It might just be me, but when I was a kid it was kind of the cusp of changing from metal to plastic lunchboxes. And I just didn't like the plastic lunchboxes as much because they were completely flat (most of the lunchboxes I had were dimensional) and they felt way cheaper.
This would have been an awesome compromise.
Because this is just OK in my opinion.
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It's so nice to see this from Hasbro! I wonder if it'll pique the curiousity of some FiM fans, maybe spread the G1 pony love! Always wonderful to see more new collectors becoming interested.i saw some people on the photo asking why they were posting this 'garbage'. cue angry people lol.
It might just be me, but when I was a kid it was kind of the cusp of changing from metal to plastic lunchboxes. And I just didn't like the plastic lunchboxes as much because they were completely flat (most of the lunchboxes I had were dimensional) and they felt way cheaper.
It might just be me, but when I was a kid it was kind of the cusp of changing from metal to plastic lunchboxes. And I just didn't like the plastic lunchboxes as much because they were completely flat (most of the lunchboxes I had were dimensional) and they felt way cheaper.
I had both metal lunchboxes as a younger child and plastic ones later on. I still have some of the metal ones (I wish I still had the metal tv trays). Downside of the metal ones is that they don't survive as nicely as the plastic ones did overtime (or at least mine anyways). My plastic ones are basically fine (with expected wear from carrying them to school everyday), but the metal ones have rust in a bunch of places and scratched off paint.
That Play-doh MLP lunchbox is adorable.
I had a plastic lunchbox as a kid with Love Melody and maybe Dancing Butterflies on it. It was pink and it still has its image on it now. I use it to store small merch frrom my childhood, like hairclips and pens and stuff. In the UK ones, produced by Bluebird I think? They didn't use a paper label but a decal. Of course, you could scratch those off...I had a couple of flasks that have been a little...scratched...but the main decal on my lunchbox is still good.
I never saw metal lunchboxes here for MLP or even any toy when I was a kid. But I feel like Bluebird at the time really had a monopoly on kids' lunchboxes, since they did a lot of popular characters.
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Yep, here it is, with some of its friends picked up from carboot sales. The images have lasted really well since the TAF one is about 1988 and the other even older. And they obviously got wet a lot...
Also, LOL at the angry bronies. :)
There were no 80s metal lunchboxes for MLP as far as I know. The ones my family had were from the 70s I think? Scooby Doo, etc.My first few lunchboxes were metal. Dark Crystal, Strawberry Shortcake, but then I wanted a MLP one.
Rainbow Magic's wings are missing o.O.
I was going to make a cynical comment about the choice of image because one of the Fluttershys looks a lot like Rainbow Magic, but missing off the wings in the playdoh version isn't a great way of doing that.
As a kid, I would have probably had a monumental grudge against Hasbro for missing her wings off xD. Rainbow Magic was super special to me back then :)
On another note, if Hasbro want to cater to G1 fans, maybe do more to support Basic Fun instead of telling everyone that they basically have nothing to do with the retros. And maybe also ditch the mane 6 core pony squad idea and get back to actual creative different ideas and themes centred on a toyline...?
I'm not bothered about them remaking G1 or even making ponies that look like G1 ever again, if they don't want to. But at least give the kids the chance to choose more and imagine more, rather than telling them a fixed story and only selling them the characters from that story.
There were no 80s metal lunchboxes for MLP as far as I know. The ones my family had were from the 70s I think? Scooby Doo, etc.My first few lunchboxes were metal. Dark Crystal, Strawberry Shortcake, but then I wanted a MLP one.
I never had any of the MLP lunch boxes as a kid.
Honestly I think the only MLP merch I had as a kid other than a few of the ponies was a puzzle XD
But yes I have noticed Hasbro posting these things, along with their G4 remakes of some 80's sitcom opening themes (which for those I honestly cringe XD)
Sad to see that there are still some people hating on Hasbro bringing this stuff to the forefront
I think they have realized the G4 brony fad has died down a lot; and now they are like “oh yeah remember the other group of pony fans? Let’s cater to them now!”They could also be trying to get bronies to appreciate G4, as I still remember them asking them to appreciate the "pre-Equestria ponies" or whatever it was they referred to G4 as. The cool thing about Hasbro is that it never really forgets its generations, as they'll often release something from the older generations, or at least do something to remind you that the older generations still exit (Hasbro still upload clips of old generations to YouTube for example, or at least they did.) I think they want to give the older fans something, but also gain some newer fans too, which is awesome.
Those folks who are hating on this, do they even realize that without G1 there would be no G4. Show some respect for how the brand started. *sigh* That's why I have distanced myself from G4.As much as I love all generations ofMy Little Pony, I've never found this to be a good counter for the pre-G4 haters. Even if the old generations were bad (which they weren't) there's still a chance that G4 would still get made. It's not a good defence, as I have seen Hater-Bronies point out that just because the "bad" generations led up to G4, it doesn't stop them being bad. One Hater-Brony even said something like "Flowers may come from the soil, but we still wipe dirt from our shoes" (Note: I always regret not countering that with "The previous generations aren't the dirt, they are the flowers that seeded this generation.")
The cool thing about Hasbro is that it never really forgets its generations,
As much as I love all generations ofMy Little Pony, I've never found this to be a good counter for the pre-G4 haters.
I would have pined over that lunchbox as a kid.ohhhh ahhhh I had that lunchbox as a kid! came with a thermos too.
It might just be me, but when I was a kid it was kind of the cusp of changing from metal to plastic lunchboxes. And I just didn't like the plastic lunchboxes as much because they were completely flat (most of the lunchboxes I had were dimensional) and they felt way cheaper.
This would have been an awesome compromise.
Because this is just OK in my opinion.
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Did you notice it's the same design as the one originally posted by the OP of this thread :) Which means you need it.
Dude, if someone is that invested in hating on a toy you can't help them. It's the whole Transformers Beast Wars "truck not monkey" thing. It's not based on logic, it's based on emotion and, in this case, insecurity.Yeah, I often think it's insecurity too. It really is a shame, they also go the opposite way and over compensate whenever FiM does something "cool" as well, like "Hey look! They included a fight scene - it can't be for little girls!" it really is embarrassing to be honest. It really is a shame, as girly things really can be cool, and My Little Pony is one of the many things that show it (most of my favorite shows are very clearly for girls.) In fact, I'm sure one of Lauren Faust's main points with FiM was that you can be girly and be awesome at the same time, so those bronies really got that part wrong.
What really bothers them is the idea that they might like something "girly" because they see "girly" as being "bad." Therefore they try to create this narrative where all the OTHER generations of MLP were girly, but not this one. "We're the real target demographic of FIM!" Absolutely ridiculous. MLP FIM is girly and is aimed squarely at 4 - 10 year old girls.
But you will only upset them by pointing out the similarities between the generations, because you are destroying the narrative that they are using to shield their fragile, fragile masculinity.
But yeah, I get what you mean. I'm just really defensive of things I like when they hate it for untrue reasons (in fact, I'm even like that for things I don't like), I'll just never understand the need to invent reasons to hate things they already hate - they already hate it, so why make up reasons if you have them already, if that makes sense?
Here's a timeline they placed on the official MLP Website:
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(can't scroll further, I have to visit the site with a proxy because it keeps sending me back to the dated dutch site. >:C )
Your version of MLP sucks!!!! Barf, barf, barf!!!!... G4 is superior because it taught me valuable lessons such as tolerance and how to make friends!
Those clips are great! I love them.:haha:
I generally have no response to the haters... especially when their argument goes something like:QuoteYour version of MLP sucks!!!! Barf, barf, barf!!!!... G4 is superior because it taught me valuable lessons such as tolerance and how to make friends!
I mean, how can you not laugh?
Going back to that timeline, I'm vaguely amused by "In the first ten years, MLP becomes one of the biggest girl toy brands"...(conveniently forgetting to mention the fact that Hasbro in the US axed it in that year, whoops xD).
Going back to that timeline, I'm vaguely amused by "In the first ten years, MLP becomes one of the biggest girl toy brands"...(conveniently forgetting to mention the fact that Hasbro in the US axed it in that year, whoops xD).
The unspoken take-away from that fact in marketing speak is that, after 10 years, the market was so saturated with MLP as to not be profitable to Hasbro anymore, and they needed to shelve the brand for a bit...
Going back to that timeline, I'm vaguely amused by "In the first ten years, MLP becomes one of the biggest girl toy brands"...(conveniently forgetting to mention the fact that Hasbro in the US axed it in that year, whoops xD).
The unspoken take-away from that fact in marketing speak is that, after 10 years, the market was so saturated with MLP as to not be profitable to Hasbro anymore, and they needed to shelve the brand for a bit...
Except that it continued in Europe for 2 years (3 in Holland) after that point, so I guess there were different market opinions at work. The same happened with G2, after all...
Those clips are great! I love them.
I generally have no response to the haters... especially when their argument goes something like:QuoteYour version of MLP sucks!!!! Barf, barf, barf!!!!... G4 is superior because it taught me valuable lessons such as tolerance and how to make friends!
I mean, how can you not laugh?
*grabs psychology hat and glasses*
I guess my question is... Why do hateful bronies actually hate the past gens?
*grabs psychology hat and glasses*
I guess my question is... Why do hateful bronies actually hate the past gens?
It's just immaturity.
I mean. A lot of younger people "hate" something when they love something else. Like I dunno, dubs vs subs for anime people is an example. (But it happens on a smaller personal scale too, I "hated" certain videos as a kid because of their dvd/vhs cover-- and didn't have a clue really what it was about).
That said, I think there's a lot to the argument that this relates to insecurity, immaturity and hormones as well. Not that all young people are immature or crazy, but I remember the fighting over G2*grabs psychology hat and glasses*
I guess my question is... Why do hateful bronies actually hate the past gens?
It's just immaturity.
I mean. A lot of younger people "hate" something when they love something else. Like I dunno, dubs vs subs for anime people is an example. (But it happens on a smaller personal scale too, I "hated" certain videos as a kid because of their dvd/vhs cover-- and didn't have a clue really what it was about).
I think Lauren Faust being the showrunner got a lot of people interested in the beginning? Since they were fans of other stuff she'd worked on. I could be wrong, of course.
I kinda feel like why a bunch of dudes like it is FiM is horses for weeaboos
This is also happening on their IG! And they had lots of G1 stuff at the SDCC booth this year, apparently? Pins and buttons! I wish they offered those online later, I would love some more G1 buttons and things!! :heart: I hope they keep it up!
It could be that they hired a new social media director and they happen to love G1. If The Toys That Made Us has taught me anything, it's that a lot of corporate decisions come down to personal whims. :P ("If the tiger's as big as a horse PUT A SADDLE ON IT." :P)
If The Toys That Made Us has taught me anything, it's that a lot of corporate decisions come down to personal whims. :P ("If the tiger's as big as a horse PUT A SADDLE ON IT." :P)
If The Toys That Made Us has taught me anything, it's that a lot of corporate decisions come down to personal whims. :P ("If the tiger's as big as a horse PUT A SADDLE ON IT." :P)
Yessss....
I see that in the creative corporate place I work at. It's funny how things change once someone retires o.o
I also think now is still a time where people who grew up with G1s are more likely to have disposable income AND kids. And I think marketing is more favorable toward girly toys then it was previously.
Boys get base, castle, weapons, slime, vehicles.
Girls get dollhouses, house stuff, pools, ice cream stands, castles, cars, clothes, color changing stuff, pets, food, fountains, stores, schools, furniture, and so on and so forth.
Boys get base, castle, weapons, slime, vehicles.
Girls get dollhouses, house stuff, pools, ice cream stands, castles, cars, clothes, color changing stuff, pets, food, fountains, stores, schools, furniture, and so on and so forth.
Wow, that's an interesting point! You're right, "boys toys" really don't get a lot of accessories related to anything except maybe war. (Thinking of G.I. Joe and all its assault vehicles here.) Yeah, they really don't get a lot of "the fun stuff." They never get to relax. Poor toys.
It assumes that all girls tend to act/like certain things, and that the rest of the toys that don't emphasize a nuturing aspect are for boys. Studies show that boys who play with nurture/care driven toys often become more involved fathers, likely due to this practiced scenario in early youth.
Here's the weird part (which I sort of touched on in the 'gross toys' thread) . . . I was at a toy store in the mall and glanced over "the Grossery Gang". (A parody of Shopkins. They're food--BUT GROSS!) And in addition to blind bags, they have . . . playsets. Like, a straight out shopping market playset. (BUT GROSS! Because it's dirty!)
Which is sort of interesting, because it's like . . . it started as a parody of Shopkins, but now it's actually promoting the exact same kind of play as Shopkins (play pretend with these small food-people figures), just reskinned as 'gross' to make it acceptable to little boys who shy away from 'girly' things.
They can call this "horrid hot dogs" all they want, but really it's just a hot dog stand playset, LOL.
Just the idea of gender sterotyping toys has always been a source of stress for us that don't fall under the heteronormative.
Here's the weird part (which I sort of touched on in the 'gross toys' thread) . . . I was at a toy store in the mall and glanced over "the Grossery Gang". (A parody of Shopkins. They're food--BUT GROSS!) And in addition to blind bags, they have . . . playsets. Like, a straight out shopping market playset. (BUT GROSS! Because it's dirty!)
Which is sort of interesting, because it's like . . . it started as a parody of Shopkins, but now it's actually promoting the exact same kind of play as Shopkins (play pretend with these small food-people figures), just reskinned as 'gross' to make it acceptable to little boys who shy away from 'girly' things.
They can call this "horrid hot dogs" all they want, but really it's just a hot dog stand playset, LOL.
Not quite. Grossery Gang isn't a Shopkins parody, both Shopkins and Grossery Gang are made by Moose Toys. And Grossery Gang is the followup to their previous line Trash Pack, which they made before Shopkins. Shopkins was essentially created to be Trash Pack but aimed at girls.
Thank you so much for that insight, Taffeta. It really helped pick me up a bit.You're welcome. Unfortunately too many people in this world spend too much time judging people for not being the same as them. I think it sucks you went through those things, and hopefully as we go forward attitudes will begin to change so toys can be less gendered as well.
This is also happening on their IG! And they had lots of G1 stuff at the SDCC booth this year, apparently? Pins and buttons! I wish they offered those online later, I would love some more G1 buttons and things!! :heart: I hope they keep it up!
It is kind of odd. I mean, it's lovely, but odd. Is it just designed to snare in a generation they assume now has disposable income to buy it, or is it something else? 35 is a really awkward anniversary to celebrate with SO MUCH stuff...they didn't go to half these lengths with 25 (albeit this time they farmed out the most of this stuff to other companies under licence, so maybe that's it). I am absolutely not complaining about more G1 stuff, but I can't help but wonder why now?
It assumes that all girls tend to act/like certain things, and that the rest of the toys that don't emphasize a nuturing aspect are for boys. Studies show that boys who play with nurture/care driven toys often become more involved fathers, likely due to this practiced scenario in early youth.
^^^^ Exactly. I don't see how it's wrong if a boy wants to get a dollhouse or something. Being a good father? Nah........boys MUST like............Tools And Cars.......Mold And Fungus.......The Yuck...
Since G5 is planned to be more gender-neutral, I wonder how it's gonna be marketed? How will it be designed? Even if they go the more neutral route I can't image a dude going down the toy aisle with his son to pick him up a Pinkie Pie figure. Hasbro even made a "ponies with swords going to war" line and I guess it flopped since it was ALWAYS on clearance and lasted one (1) year. Because it's branded as "My Little Pony" it's for girls, so boys are physically incapable of playing with it.
This is a bit off-topic though, yeah? :whistle:
I'm pretty sure I read it months ago when the leaks first happened, or something like that. They're going for TVY7 or TVPG, aiming for an older audience and going for the adventure/drama genre rather than the educational "friendship lesson" TVY-TVY7 rating FiM was given. They also wanted to incorporate more dudes in the cast, have more male main characters. It sounds like they're making MLP into something bronies would want. Imo that sounds a lot more neutral than FiM's original concept, six girl ponies going around and solving friendship problems with the power of love and, well, friendship. :P
Where did you read about that neutrality? Because as far as I know they just want to make dragons as important as ponies. That's not neutral to me, that's just another form of stereotyping.
"Boys get dangerous dragons, girls get pretty ponies". If it really was neutral they'd market it to boys just as much as girls, which will never happen because Hasbro has the gender split anchored down in all of their franchises.
And don't get me started on the rumor that AJ will get fused with Big Mac and become a stallion. That's even more stereorypical. "Let's make the physical worker a man" :lookround:
I think most of the retros get sold to people who aren't collectors. Nostalgia is a huge factor . . . "Oh, I remember having a toy just like that!" I was looking at Russ Trolls listings on eBay today and was hit with a "omg, I had a baby Troll just like that one!" moment. And I hated Trolls, lol! But seeing it brought back memories of being a kid. I was in Target again today and they were cleared out of all the retros except one Sunlight, one Parasol, and one Blossom . . . This was after having pretty much two full sets earlier in the week! They can't all be going to collectors, there aren't that many of us in Seattle, LOL.
Older kids may want toys that "match" the show they watch. But MLP's lowest age range is reeeeally low (if you look at Amazon reviews, you'll see a lot of "my 2 year old loved this!" reviews for MLP FIM toys). The younger kids are going to want any pony-shaped toy. I took some ponies to a small Transformers convention and sold a MIB retro Snuzzle, some G3s, and some G4s . . . The kids never questioned (or even seemed to notice) that some were in different styles. They just wanted ponies, all the ponies, any ponies. :P
On a similar note, I was in an airport a few months ago and there was a four year old toting around a well-loved G3 Rainbow Flash.
Hmmm, 25/35/40 are milestone birthdays for people so maybe for toy brands.