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Title: 1993 Hasbro Spanish catalogue: Anybody seen these ponies MOC on Spanish Card?
Post by: LadyPinwheel on January 29, 2018, 01:53:22 PM
Hello all!

I was looking at my Spanish catalogue database and I just noticed something:

I have a couple of images from a Hasbro catalogue from 1993 and there you can see to sets, the Newborn Bedtime ponies and the Best Friend ponies. Both with Spanish names and codes.

BUT! I have never seen them MOC on Spanish card. I'm asking the Spanish community too to see if anyone recalls them from back then.

In fact, I thought the Bedtime NB were exclusive to the UK. And the image of the Best Friend ponies I guess are prototypes, because the poses are not the same.

Any clues?

Here are the photos I have:

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Thanks for reading me!
Title: Re: 1993 Hasbro Spanish catalogue: Anybody seen these ponies MOC on Spanish Card?
Post by: Taffeta on January 29, 2018, 02:02:47 PM
That looks like my Susie and LadyG's Billie!

...To answer your question, I have the best friends babies on German cards but haven't ever seen them on Spanish.

But that is the first time I have seen them in those poses in promo material O.O

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Title: Re: 1993 Hasbro Spanish catalogue: Anybody seen these ponies MOC on Spanish Card?
Post by: Chrissytree on January 29, 2018, 02:05:38 PM
I've looked through all the photos I have saved and the only one of those I have on Spanish card is one of the bedtime Newborns, baby Stargaze:
Mi Pequeño Pony. Bebés Dormilones. Estrella ... something I can't read as the photo is blurry.
I also have a photo of the same baby on German card. I'll message you the photos :)
I don't think I would have saved many for the Best Friends though as the accessories are the same and thats what I focus on.
Title: Re: 1993 Hasbro Spanish catalogue: Anybody seen these ponies MOC on Spanish Card?
Post by: LadyPinwheel on January 29, 2018, 02:10:16 PM
I've looked through all the photos I have saved and the only one of those I have on Spanish card is one of the bedtime Newborns, baby Stargaze:
Mi Pequeño Pony. Bebés Dormilones. Estrella ... something I can't read as the photo is blurry.
I also have a photo of the same baby on German card. I'll message you the photos :)
I don't think I would have saved many for the Best Friends though as the accessories are the same and thats what I focus on.

Could you share the photo please? It would be so amazing to see it!

LOOK AT BILLIE AND SUSIE'S POSES LOOK AT THEM LOOK!!!

That looks like my Susie and LadyG's Billie!

*flaps*

...To answer your question, I have the best friends babies on German cards but haven't ever seen them on Spanish.

But that is the first time I have seen them in those poses in promo material O.O

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I love seeing prototype ponies!! hahaha!
I just confirmation from two members of the Spanish Community who had ponies from both sets in their childhood. So that is so cool! But the poses are the regular ones.
Title: Re: 1993 Hasbro Spanish catalogue: Anybody seen these ponies MOC on Spanish Card?
Post by: Chrissytree on January 29, 2018, 02:12:31 PM
I've PMd you the photos :)
Title: Re: 1993 Hasbro Spanish catalogue: Anybody seen these ponies MOC on Spanish Card?
Post by: Taffeta on January 29, 2018, 02:16:22 PM
I have calmed down now. Sorry >.> Almost 20 years with no clue and suddenly bam. A clue.

Whether my pony and Lady G's ponies are the ones in that image or not isn't totally clear - the photo one seems to have slightly darker eyes to me - but it is evidence they were using these as promotional ponies. So the idea of them being a prototype/promotional version of the set before release is plausible. I mean, the actual insert we had shows Katie in that pose and Billie is a paler pink, but neither Susie or Billie matched the ponies LadyG and I have. This image really really does. Someone said years ago that they thought these were European somehow and that there was a Katie -  I bet they got that from seeing this picture or one like it. Question is, how many were there? And also what happened to Katie? O.O

Sorry not to have helped your question. Thank you for giving a bit more of a clue to a longterm one of mine.

(My Susie came off ebay UK, I think LadyG's Billie did too, suggesting that image may have been taken in the UK and then used in catalogues across Europe...? Both of them came in unnoticed auctions without any mention of them being strange or unusual so we have no detail on their origins in either case...but this makes a pretty strong one that they're from the preproduction photograph stage. Maybe even toy fair displays...)

*excited*

Title: Re: 1993 Hasbro Spanish catalogue: Anybody seen these ponies MOC on Spanish Card?
Post by: LadyPinwheel on January 29, 2018, 02:24:57 PM
I have calmed down now. Sorry >.> Almost 20 years with no clue and suddenly bam. A clue.

Whether my pony and Lady G's ponies are the ones in that image or not isn't totally clear - the photo one seems to have slightly darker eyes to me - but it is evidence they were using these as promotional ponies. So the idea of them being a prototype/promotional version of the set before release is plausible. I mean, the actual insert we had shows Katie in that pose and Billie is a paler pink, but neither Susie or Billie matched the ponies LadyG and I have. This image really really does. Someone said years ago that they thought these were European somehow and that there was a Katie -  I bet they got that from seeing this picture or one like it. Question is, how many were there? And also what happened to Katie? O.O

Sorry not to have helped your question. Thank you for giving a bit more of a clue to a longterm one of mine.

(My Susie came off ebay UK, I think LadyG's Billie did too, suggesting that image may have been taken in the UK and then used in catalogues across Europe...? Both of them came in unnoticed auctions without any mention of them being strange or unusual so we have no detail on their origins in either case...but this makes a pretty strong one that they're from the preproduction photograph stage. Maybe even toy fair displays...)

*excited*



I'm glad I could help! I wasn't aware that you had the prototypes!! That is SO exciting!!  :iconclap: :iconclap: :iconclap: I think I got these images from eBay, because they don't have watermarks. But can't remember.

I'd love to see photos of your ponies! I have several other catalogues from Spain or in Spanish, so if you need any, let me know. Maybe something exciting pops up ^^

ETA: I also have another image from this same catalogue that shows Princess Sparkle, with her Spanish name "Destellos Reales".
Title: Re: 1993 Hasbro Spanish catalogue: Anybody seen these ponies MOC on Spanish Card?
Post by: Taffeta on January 29, 2018, 02:33:24 PM
I only have Susie. LadyG has Billie - I have sent her a message about this thread just now. They are both in the gallery though. Billie and Susie have both been to pony meets in the past, and have 'met' each other but we don't know where Katie is , if she survived. She's never been found, but your booklet indicates again that she existed. So who knows where she ended up.

I would love to be able to use that image on my site when I get to updating, just to suggest where Billie and Susie came from. I would also be really interested to know what else is in that booklet, because that was the year of the Nestie babies. We didn't have them here officially though someone has one in a UK box (not sure what happened there, maybe we had a small release?) They're not on the UK inserts for this year but they are on the French and the German ones, so would be interesting to know if they are in the Spanish booklet??

This is the image I have of Billie on my site:
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It;s NOT LadyG's image but I lost contact information for the person who sent it to me. We don't know if LadyG's pony is the same as the one in this image or proof there are two...LadyG's is in the gallery. She has a bit more playwear than Susie.

This is LadyG's from the Gallery
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And when the two of them met in London ;)
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Title: Re: 1993 Hasbro Spanish catalogue: Anybody seen these ponies MOC on Spanish Card?
Post by: LadyPinwheel on January 29, 2018, 02:39:42 PM
I only have this other image:

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I'm going to try and find the source, but I've had these saved in my computer for a long time :/

ETA: Found some images of the same catalogue, but in another site. Only one more MLP page to add:

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According to the index, there are 13 pages of MLP products!
Title: Re: 1993 Hasbro Spanish catalogue: Anybody seen these ponies MOC on Spanish Card?
Post by: Taffeta on January 29, 2018, 02:43:46 PM
That is interesting too though. The Palabritas...in accurate poses and colours. The insert for the talking ponies here shows a prototype I think from a US image originally...she is pink and has a closed mouth. But those are store accurate, pretty much. So it suggests that those images were closer to the store release timewise? Although I guess the palabritas were already out by then so maybe not...

I would be very interested in any Spanish catalogue images you have, genuinely. Even if none of them can be used on the website, it's still more information on the big gaps in European knowledge stuff, and yeah. Now I feel like I'm a little step closer to understanding who my Susie is and where she came from. And best guess right now is Hasbro UK or a European Hasbro's promotional machine...

The kitchen picture, the bedtime newborns and the cookery ponies all are the same images used in the UK pamphlet...probably also the Spanish one. It's the pamphlet image not the backcard one because the pegasus cookery pony is there and on the backcard she's replaced by the accurate Sweet Delight I *think*.
Title: Re: 1993 Hasbro Spanish catalogue: Anybody seen these ponies MOC on Spanish Card?
Post by: LadyPinwheel on January 29, 2018, 03:02:26 PM
I just found this on eBay:

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Title: Re: 1993 Hasbro Spanish catalogue: Anybody seen these ponies MOC on Spanish Card?
Post by: Taffeta on January 29, 2018, 03:06:56 PM
That;s in English. But the same image. So maybe it is the case that those pictures were taken in the UK, given that Billie and Susie both appeared here...

Interesting and awesome :D Some of those images match the insert, but some don't...and it's interesting how there the parents and babies are split up.

Baby Berrytown still the wrong pose though...so I guess that means she's maybe out there too, somewhere??
Title: Re: 1993 Hasbro Spanish catalogue: Anybody seen these ponies MOC on Spanish Card?
Post by: pinkkittywinks on January 29, 2018, 03:36:40 PM
:cheer:

Ladypinwheel posted this on Instagram and I was going to show you Taffeta, I couldn't believe my eyes.

I've seen a Baby Count-A-Lot with Baby Meadow Sweets hair, but she's not in the Baby Ember pose.

Love pkw xxx
Title: Re: 1993 Hasbro Spanish catalogue: Anybody seen these ponies MOC on Spanish Card?
Post by: Taffeta on January 29, 2018, 04:59:16 PM
I know! Isn't it exciting? It's like the missing link in the puzzle. I think with this we can really assume they were part of the promotional trail even if we can't prove they are those exact ones in the image. I've always thought they might be production samples...I just want to know even more now what happened to Katie O.O. Is she still out there somewhere? These things do sometimes still turn up - will we ever see Katie turn up?
Title: Re: 1993 Hasbro Spanish catalogue: Anybody seen these ponies MOC on Spanish Card?
Post by: Perikoala on January 29, 2018, 09:01:39 PM
Searching pictures of Spanish cards to include to a Spanish Ponies database, I found a Bebés Dormilones card. Just one and I'm not sure if its of your interest anymore. I'll leave it here just in case (pictures not mine. Saved them from TC)

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I remember I had a baby pony with yellow body + pink/redish? hair when I was a child. I can't remember her very well because I was 5 or 6 years old and I didn't keep her for too long (I gifted her to a classmate's baby sister, I don't know why I did that...). But with those colors, I think she could only be Baby Katie or Baby Bye Byes/Baby Schlummerlein (unless I'm missing other yellow+pink ponies) and the year was between 1990-1991, maybe 1992 so I'm not sure if Spain ever had the Best Friends Ponies set. I couldn't find any MOC pictures either :shrug:
Title: Re: 1993 Hasbro Spanish catalogue: Anybody seen these ponies MOC on Spanish Card?
Post by: Lollipop on January 30, 2018, 03:32:26 AM
Ooo love Susie & Billie in their different poses, so cute!..... Hope Katie is found one day  :biggrin:

Didn't know Baby Berrytown was originally in a different pose too, has anyone ever found her?
Title: Re: 1993 Hasbro Spanish catalogue: Anybody seen these ponies MOC on Spanish Card?
Post by: Taffeta on January 30, 2018, 03:39:04 AM
As far as I know, no.

Title: Re: 1993 Hasbro Spanish catalogue: Anybody seen these ponies MOC on Spanish Card?
Post by: lovesbabysquirmy on January 30, 2018, 06:57:27 AM
Such cool pony history!
Title: Re: 1993 Hasbro Spanish catalogue: Anybody seen these ponies MOC on Spanish Card?
Post by: aria_elwen on January 31, 2018, 09:31:44 AM
Well...uhhh... I feel a bit embarrassed. I didn't know that the rest of the community didn't know these were sold in Spain.

There was a shop in Plymouth that got stock from all over the place and when I say all over..  well you'll see

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And somewhere in the attic I have back cards...

Unfortunately I can't remember which set I had that was Spanish...

I know there's Spanish, German and I think Dutch...and I have a bilingual pamphlet from 1993 in English and German.
Title: Re: 1993 Hasbro Spanish catalogue: Anybody seen these ponies MOC on Spanish Card?
Post by: Taffeta on January 31, 2018, 09:36:11 AM
A LOT of ponies ended up here in the UK on non-English cards at the end of the line. We were seriously Hasbro's dumping ground. I remember more French and a lot of German ponies in my locale. Maybe you got the Spanish ones down in Plymouth ;) I remember French and German packaged Rockin' Beats in Woolworths and German Birthday Pony, French Princess Sparkle in Children's World. But I think the only Spanish packaged pony I remember here was Starlight in Wales (!? yeah, try to make sense of that if you can O.o) and she was on her own. All the others with her were in English. I remember trying to decide between the Spanish carded Starlight cos the card was weird or Bright Eyes cos she was my favourite. Bright Eyes won...but I still remember because it was so odd.

Title: Re: 1993 Hasbro Spanish catalogue: Anybody seen these ponies MOC on Spanish Card?
Post by: aria_elwen on January 31, 2018, 10:09:20 AM
A LOT of ponies ended up here in the UK on non-English cards at the end of the line. We were seriously Hasbro's dumping ground. I remember more French and a lot of German ponies in my locale. Maybe you got the Spanish ones down in Plymouth ;) I remember French and German packaged Rockin' Beats in Woolworths and German Birthday Pony, French Princess Sparkle in Children's World. But I think the only Spanish packaged pony I remember here was Starlight in Wales (!? yeah, try to make sense of that if you can O.o) and she was on her own. All the others with her were in English. I remember trying to decide between the Spanish carded Starlight cos the card was weird or Bright Eyes cos she was my favourite. Bright Eyes won...but I still remember because it was so odd.

Oh don't I know it. I remember coming online in the early 2000s and being thoroughly confused. But when I was little I never batted an eyelid at the packaging. I would've only been about 4 to 6 when some of these were coming out. I can still remember being confused by the first tooth babies having accessories since mine (I have since worked out) were the Dutch club babies.

I have no idea where Woolies got their stock as  I know my birthday pony was there and she's UK release (I remember it saying last time I was up there) but the back of her box is completely different to any other I've seen and I vividly remember getting excited about the new newborn twins on the back of a box but then them never being released here.

But the shop with the stock from everywhere literally had stock from everywhere. They had UK release ones and then ones they must've got from the back of a lorry.

German, French, Spanish, US and Dutch were all fair game down here depending on the shop. ;) Pretty certain the Dutch exclusives were imported but little me just saw them as weird versions of ponies I already had:(


On a different note if someone could remind me how to embed an image I'd be really grateful; it's been awhile since I was active on forums...
Title: Re: 1993 Hasbro Spanish catalogue: Anybody seen these ponies MOC on Spanish Card?
Post by: Taffeta on January 31, 2018, 10:29:49 AM
Embedding image - if you see the little line of icons above the emojis, it's the first icon or [ img] [/ img] without the spacing.

I wonder if your Birthday Pony was in the US box? Woolworths used to import a lot of ponies from the States in US boxes and sell them as exclusives. We've managed to track down a few for sure that were sold that way. It's not impossible yours is one like that...
Does the back look something like this?
http://mylittlewiki.org/w/images/thumb/a/ac/Birthday-pony-backcard.jpg/300px-Birthday-pony-backcard.jpg
If so, it might be a US import.

It's interesting what you said about imports. I've heard other people from the southern coastal areas of the UK saying similar about stores specifically importing in stuff from other places. I guess your experience is another example of that. Very cool. (says the girl who grew up stuck in the midlands/welsh marches where distribution was fairly dull for the most part and at times entirely lacking.)

I had baby Tic Tac Toe from new and it took a long time for me to realise her UK box was identical to the US one except for the story. I have seen images of the dutch club versions MOC (I think Molly was also involved with that somehow?) but I didn't know they'd got shipped off over here as well...
Title: Re: 1993 Hasbro Spanish catalogue: Anybody seen these ponies MOC on Spanish Card?
Post by: aria_elwen on January 31, 2018, 11:16:35 AM
Hmmm... must be something to do with the original image it just comes up with little broken imgs when I try. I'll have a look next time I'm on the laptop. Mobile's are a bit pernickity.

As for Birthday pony... definitely not that one. Next time I'm up there I'll drag my box of goodies down and get my weirdos scanned in.

With the babies I honestly don't remember. I know it was The Range that sold them as back then it was a place of dodgy dealings and was only in Plymouth. It operated similarly to Trago Mills, the owners used to go abroad and bulk buy all sorts of things. They were selling them so cheaply my parents bought three babies at a time.

I was so upset (and fascinated) when I found the normal UK release a couple of years later in one of the equally dodgy newsagents. ;)
Title: Re: 1993 Hasbro Spanish catalogue: Anybody seen these ponies MOC on Spanish Card?
Post by: Taffeta on January 31, 2018, 11:31:13 AM
Secrets of a coastal town o.o will be interested to see the birthday pony box image!
Title: Re: 1993 Hasbro Spanish catalogue: Anybody seen these ponies MOC on Spanish Card?
Post by: aria_elwen on January 31, 2018, 02:09:59 PM
Secrets of a coastal town o.o will be interested to see the birthday pony box image!

 :P So will I now I've gone on about it. Oh, and finally managed to get the images working. It was google drive issue.

And although likely seen before: Anglo-German pamphlet.
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Unfortunately it was living in the shed for a while and got damp hence it's slightly less than pristine condition. :(

I may have other pamphlet's in the attic, last time I was up there, there was one or two still stuck to the back of the cards but I don't know if they'll be any different.
Title: Re: 1993 Hasbro Spanish catalogue: Anybody seen these ponies MOC on Spanish Card?
Post by: Taffeta on January 31, 2018, 02:17:00 PM
That first one was the one I was wondering about...significant for what is missing rather than what is there. Love the fill in art work though. Thank you for sharing that. I figure LadyPinwheel will be happy to see it. But no family ponies and babies??

All my pony paperwork is at home so I can't do the spot the difference. I have a French, German and English version of that one but not Spanish. I know the Cookery Ponies aren't on the three I have, they should be on the previous insert (I *may* have a Spanish one of those that shows them actually, but can't remember offhand). And there are Nestie babies on the French and German inserts but not on the UK or the Spanish apparently. I can see the family babies are missing on the Spanish but...who else...

Edit: It's Bridal Beauty. Also the Sweet Kisses ponies. I think that accounts for all the spaces...?
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The other is from 94. I have never seen a version in any other language than the bilingual Anglo German one you have. All these different inserts just prove that generalising Uk and even Europe is basically impossible...

Title: Re: 1993 Hasbro Spanish catalogue: Anybody seen these ponies MOC on Spanish Card?
Post by: Chrissytree on January 31, 2018, 03:43:53 PM
I got my birthday pony in the UK in an American box. And i think there's a tiny difference between the first tooth baby boxes - the hanging thingy. One has a punched hole the other has a hook shaped hole. Can't remember, I've got a headache :(
Title: Re: 1993 Hasbro Spanish catalogue: Anybody seen these ponies MOC on Spanish Card?
Post by: LadyPinwheel on February 01, 2018, 03:01:42 AM
I got my birthday pony in the UK in an American box. And i think there's a tiny difference between the first tooth baby boxes - the hanging thingy. One has a punched hole the other has a hook shaped hole. Can't remember, I've got a headache :(

The first tooth baby ponies came on a card here in Spain, I'd love to see them in box! I love the mlp art they did before they started using the same photo on all cards and boxes.
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