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TCB => Trader & Shipping Support => Topic started by: northstar3184 on October 15, 2017, 12:51:41 PM
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Today I logged onto my computer to find that someone in another state hacked into my Ebay account and made 3 fraudulent purchases using my Paypal account.
I have reported the activity to Ebay & Paypal, changed my passwords for both, changed my security questions, and changed my email password. I'm about to change my banking password too. Paypal is investigating the matter and said it should take 7-10 days. Total money stolen via Paypal is ~$100. Should I notify the sellers? Neither company mentioned doing so.
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Urgh how infuriating!
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I've had the same thing last week, purchase was only 20 EUR. I informed the seller who said he had already been informed by eBay that it was fraudulent. I got the money back but somehow ended up with a negative PayPal balance, which I ask them to investigate.
It's so annoying and I'm even thinking about closing both of these accounts.
Thing is, it's been over a year since I was active in either one of them.
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I logged into my PayPal account and see with the three opened cases for the 3 fraudulent purchases, PayPal has apparently already contacted the sellers because the status of two of the cases say they are awaiting a response from the sellers. The other case says it's under investigation.
The weird thing is what this person bought: two hats and a backpack! I mean, seriously? Granted the backpack and one of the hats are by Calvin Klein, but just such a random set of purchases to make after stealing a person's identity.
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The weird thing is what this person bought: two hats and a backpack! I mean, seriously? Granted the backpack and one of the hats are by Calvin Klein, but just such a random set of purchases to make after stealing a person's identity.
How very strange! :blink:
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Okay, so I just googled the address the scammer wanted the items shipped to and there's a whole list of links that come up in Yahoo about the address being used over the last couple years with a whole assortment of different identities to commit fraud. They've stolen account info from people on both Amazon and Ebay and made all kind of purchases: computers, designer handbags, sporting goods, etc.... It's definitely something I feel others should be aware of, but I know we're not supposed to post private info on here. However, the only piece of info I have is an address.
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I have a question did you link up your paypal to your ebay account to make it easier to check out and pay with just a click of a button? I am really worried about doing that. I am concerned it could cause me a problem with a hacker because, then they don't need my paypal password to pay anymore. I try to change my password and my email for ebay about every 6 months. I would change your email if you can. I know its a pain because you will have to change it with paypal also to link your paypal with ebay in case you sell, but just changing passwords may not be enough? I am so sorry this has happened. I am checking my account daily just to be sure this doesn't happen to me. It is going to be a real problem for all of us with this technology. Also, do you use your smart phone with ebay? I had someone tell me never to use my phone to ebay or paypal. So, I have not. Apparently, this just puts you at risk. Super big hugs.
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I have a question did you link up your paypal to your ebay account to make it easier to check out and pay with just a click of a button? I am really worried about doing that. I am concerned it could cause me a problem with a hacker because, then they don't need my paypal password to pay anymore. I try to change my password and my email for ebay about every 6 months. I would change your email if you can. I know its a pain because you will have to change it with paypal also to link your paypal with ebay in case you sell, but just changing passwords may not be enough? I am so sorry this has happened. I am checking my account daily just to be sure this doesn't happen to me. It is going to be a real problem for all of us with this technology. Also, do you use your smart phone with ebay? I had someone tell me never to use my phone to ebay or paypal. So, I have not. Apparently, this just puts you at risk. Super big hugs.
I did have my Paypal account linked up to my Ebay account, yes. As far as using a smart phone, no I don't have one.
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Update: One seller cancelled the transaction. The other two sellers, despite PayPal opening a dispute on my behalf two days ago, have gone ahead and shipped the items to the thief's address today. I plan to file a police report tomorrow. The PayPal cases are all still under investigation, but there's a pending refund from the one seller who cancelled the transaction.
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Why would they ship them? That's so stupid. Are they not paying attention or something?
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Why would they ship them? That's so stupid. Are they not paying attention or something?
Both sellers claim they never received any notification from Ebay or PayPal, which is funny because both open cases have been shown in my PayPal account since I'd reported the theft on Sunday. Since Sunday, both cases have had the status of "Waiting for response from seller."
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How did he managed to get the password? I also don´t how easy is to pay using pp, it doesn´t ask for password anymore. I think someone tried to log into my account, I´ve received an email with: having trouble log in into ebay?
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Why would they ship them? That's so stupid. Are they not paying attention or something?
Both sellers claim they never received any notification from Ebay or PayPal, which is funny because both open cases have been shown in my PayPal account since I'd reported the theft on Sunday. Since Sunday, both cases have had the status of "Waiting for response from seller."
Well, maybe they just didn't get the notice. I have found that I don't get all my notices from paypal. Sometimes I don't even get emails from people in the family. For whatever reason emails don't always go through. They may be telling the truth and the only way they would have known was to log into paypal and check their account status. I do that often just for security, but a lot of people don't do that.
How did he managed to get the password? I also don´t how easy is to pay using pp, it doesn´t ask for password anymore. I think someone tried to log into my account, I´ve received an email with: having trouble log in into ebay?
I was told that hackers get this information from the device you are using to access the internet. They can hack into your computer, your phone whatever they want. It is quite easy I have heard. In fact on tv once they showed how fast a hacker was able to hack into this reporter's I phone and watch him using the camera. So, changing passwords often is a good idea, I also have some software the scrambles what I type. Sometimes they don't even have to hack if a password is weak enough they can guess it. People are amazing and it is sad they don't use their intellect for more good and useful means. Another way this happens is by responding to links in spoof emails that take you to paypal and you basically give the hacker your password thinking the email is from paypal or ebay when its not. Always log into ebay and paypal directly and never through an email link.
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Well, maybe they just didn't get the notice. I have found that I don't get all my notices from paypal. Sometimes I don't even get emails from people in the family. For whatever reason emails don't always go through. They may be telling the truth and the only way they would have known was to log into paypal and check their account status. I do that often just for security, but a lot of people don't do that.
Good point.
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Oh. I was thinking it would have shown up in eBay, like the alert thingy in the corner. Maybe not.
I don't sell stuff so I don't know :blush: It just seemed weird that the sellers wouldn't be on top of their transactions.
I've known two people who had fraudulent activity with credit card # stolen. A friend was alerted by his bank when someone tried to buy a boat. And just a few months ago my mom was contacted that someone was making small purchases in another state. They bought stuff like movie tickets and fast food. We figured it was a kid. This stuff happens a lot :huh:
But anyway, I hope you can get it resolved soon.
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I reported the matter to the police so that have documentation of it. I also got refunded by one of the other two sellers. I called PayPal and asked if I'm supposed to close the 2 cases involving sellers who refunded me. The rep said I could go ahead and close the cases, but when I closed them it said that closing them would result in no further investigation.
I feel the theft should continue to be investigated since so many people across multiple forums for over a year have reported a person using that street address to ship fraudulent purchases to. When I had told police in that city that I'd been a victim of identity theft by someone using an address in their jurisdiction, they just told me to report it to my local police since "the crime occurs where the victim lives". They didn't ask for any information or anything. When I met with an officer in my jurisdiction, he just said it's up to PayPal to deal with it. So now that PayPal is no longer investigating two of the three purchases it's like letting the thief off the hook for those two criminal acts.
Anyway, after I closed the cases and I then got emails saying those two claims have been denied since the sellers have already issued refunds. Rather than "denied", shouldn't it say they were "resolved" or something to that effect?
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PayPal determined that the third case was fraud and refunded me. So now I've gotten my money back from all 3 transactions.
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Glad to hear you got your refund! Sucks for the sellers who sent off items to the thieves, but at least YOU aren't affected anymore!
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That is really good news.