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Title: Best Air dry clay?
Post by: NsMLPonies on September 17, 2017, 10:39:28 AM
Hi,

Which air dry clay would be the best for customizing? I do not use polymer clay, so I'd like to know if air dry clay is ok to use on customs.
Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Best Air dry clay?
Post by: Safflower on September 17, 2017, 12:16:37 PM
Air dry clay is perfectly safe for customs :) It works well and causes no harm to the pony, and can dry on the pony so it won't be misshapen. And, for the best air dry clay, that's a loaded question. Honestly... I use whatever clay is at my local Walmart because it's cheap and works ok, lol. A lot of the craft channels I watch on YouTube use Japanese clays such as Hearty, Claycraft Deco, or Mermaid Puffy. It seems that Mermaid Puffy is quite a bit drier and has larger paper fibers than other clays, which gives it a really puffy texture. The other two are pretty smooth, especially Claycraft Deco, as it is specially made for crafters. Hope this helps! :biggrin:
Title: Re: Best Air dry clay?
Post by: NsMLPonies on September 17, 2017, 03:03:43 PM
Air dry clay is perfectly safe for customs :) It works well and causes no harm to the pony, and can dry on the pony so it won't be misshapen. And, for the best air dry clay, that's a loaded question. Honestly... I use whatever clay is at my local Walmart because it's cheap and works ok, lol. A lot of the craft channels I watch on YouTube use Japanese clays such as Hearty, Claycraft Deco, or Mermaid Puffy. It seems that Mermaid Puffy is quite a bit drier and has larger paper fibers than other clays, which gives it a really puffy texture. The other two are pretty smooth, especially Claycraft Deco, as it is specially made for crafters. Hope this helps! :biggrin:

Thank you!!!!
Title: Re: Best Air dry clay?
Post by: Roogna on September 17, 2017, 06:57:22 PM
apoxie sculpt
you can get it on amazon now :)
Title: Re: Best Air dry clay?
Post by: bright rabbit 1 on September 18, 2017, 01:50:45 AM
apoxie sculpt
you can get it on amazon now :)

I can't use Apoxie sculpt because of the chemicals in it. I just use any air drying clay I can get my hands on; like DAS.
Title: Re: Best Air dry clay?
Post by: NsMLPonies on September 18, 2017, 08:24:56 AM
apoxie sculpt
you can get it on amazon now :)

Is Apoxie sculpt safe to use? Or is it toxic?
Title: Re: Best Air dry clay?
Post by: NsMLPonies on September 24, 2017, 04:18:04 PM
Bumping to add:

Has anyone used model magic for sculpting? I've used it before, but not on ponies.
Title: Re: Best Air dry clay?
Post by: Safflower on September 24, 2017, 04:54:54 PM
Bumping to add:

Has anyone used model magic for sculpting? I've used it before, but not on ponies.
Model magic is not at all for artist but for teeny tiny children! Personally, I think it smells awful and takes so long to dry, over 24 hours unlike what their website says (and when it's drying it spreads out!) But I guess it was nice for me when I started sculpting because of the long drying time.
Title: Re: Best Air dry clay?
Post by: NsMLPonies on September 25, 2017, 11:40:22 AM
Bumping to add:

Has anyone used model magic for sculpting? I've used it before, but not on ponies.
Model magic is not at all for artist but for teeny tiny children! Personally, I think it smells awful and takes so long to dry, over 24 hours unlike what their website says (and when it's drying it spreads out!) But I guess it was nice for me when I started sculpting because of the long drying time.

I prefer model magic because of how light it is. But I may just stick to normal air dry clay for ponies. Is polyform (I think that's what it's called.) Any good? Or the crayola air dry clay?

Post Merge: September 25, 2017, 06:22:44 PM

Has anyone used Crayola air dry clay for sculpting? Is it as good as other air dry clays?

Post Merge: September 25, 2017, 06:23:08 PM

Bumping to add:

Has anyone used model magic for sculpting? I've used it before, but not on ponies.
Model magic is not at all for artist but for teeny tiny children! Personally, I think it smells awful and takes so long to dry, over 24 hours unlike what their website says (and when it's drying it spreads out!) But I guess it was nice for me when I started sculpting because of the long drying time.

I prefer model magic because of how light it is. But I may just stick to normal air dry clay for ponies. Is polyform (I think that's what it's called.) Any good? Or the crayola air dry clay?

Post Merge: September 25, 2017, 06:22:44 PM

Has anyone used Crayola air dry clay for sculpting? Is it as good as any other air dry clay?
Title: Re: Best Air dry clay?
Post by: Safflower on September 25, 2017, 08:01:48 PM
Yeah, I agree, model magic is pretty light which is nice. Also, if you mean polyform as in Sculpey, yes, it is a great polymer clay :) Also, Crayola air dry clay is pretty bad in my opinion. They smell is a bit like burnt rubber and it was pretty chalky. My dried pieces crumbled afterwords with light handling because it was so chalky.
Title: Re: Best Air dry clay?
Post by: NsMLPonies on September 26, 2017, 06:59:55 AM
Yeah, I agree, model magic is pretty light which is nice. Also, if you mean polyform as in Sculpey, yes, it is a great polymer clay :) Also, Crayola air dry clay is pretty bad in my opinion. They smell is a bit like burnt rubber and it was pretty chalky. My dried pieces crumbled afterwords with light handling because it was so chalky.

Wow. I guess crayola clay is out of the question.  :blink:
I think that I'll just stick to the better quality air dry clay.
Title: Re: Best Air dry clay?
Post by: Taxel on September 27, 2017, 12:02:02 PM
Sculpey III is actually a very poor quality brand of polymer clay. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. Some of their other types of clay, like Souffle, Premo, and Super Sculpey are great depending on what you want to use them for.
Title: Re: Best Air dry clay?
Post by: NsMLPonies on September 27, 2017, 07:36:48 PM
Has anyone used paper clay?
Title: Re: Best Air dry clay?
Post by: NoDivision on September 28, 2017, 06:01:28 AM
Personally I only use apoxie sculpt for customs. It is easy to work with, allows for a lot of small detail, and cures very hard and durable. Many other air dry clays are going to be soft, or brittle, and definitely do not allow the same level of detail as apoxie. Most air dry clays also shrink when they dry, which is very problematic for ponies.
Title: Re: Best Air dry clay?
Post by: NsMLPonies on September 28, 2017, 06:11:27 AM
Personally I only use apoxie sculpt for customs. It is easy to work with, allows for a lot of small detail, and cures very hard and durable. Many other air dry clays are going to be soft, or brittle, and definitely do not allow the same level of detail as apoxie. Most air dry clays also shrink when they dry, which is very problematic for ponies.

I have thought about using Apoxie sculpt, but I am worried about the toxicity of it.
Title: Re: Best Air dry clay?
Post by: NoDivision on September 28, 2017, 06:52:02 AM
There are only 2 hazard warnings on Apoxie sculpt, which are pretty minor

H317 May cause an allergic skin reaction.
H320 Causes eye irritation

They recommend wearing disposable gloves while working with it (I don't personally but I know I don't have an allergic reaction to it) but that's really the only safety precaution that would be necessary. That and don't touch it and then touch your eyes and you should be fine :) You can always buy the smallest size they offer and see if you like it or if it gives you any issues.
Title: Re: Best Air dry clay?
Post by: NsMLPonies on September 28, 2017, 10:21:54 AM
There are only 2 hazard warnings on Apoxie sculpt, which are pretty minor

H317 May cause an allergic skin reaction.
H320 Causes eye irritation

They recommend wearing disposable gloves while working with it (I don't personally but I know I don't have an allergic reaction to it) but that's really the only safety precaution that would be necessary. That and don't touch it and then touch your eyes and you should be fine :) You can always buy the smallest size they offer and see if you like it or if it gives you any issues.

That's great to know! Ty! I guess I'll get some Apoxie sculpt for my customs. I'm going to make Batman ponies, so I def. Need some clay for their costumes.
Title: Re: Best Air dry clay?
Post by: BlackCurtains on September 28, 2017, 01:18:50 PM
If you do decide to use gloves, go with vinyl. Latex sticks like crazy.
Title: Re: Best Air dry clay?
Post by: NsMLPonies on September 28, 2017, 01:24:41 PM
If you do decide to use gloves, go with vinyl. Latex sticks like crazy.

I'll keep this in mind. Ty!
Title: Re: Best Air dry clay?
Post by: Safflower on September 28, 2017, 08:12:13 PM
Has anyone used paper clay?
Paper clay is air dry clay with paper fibers in it, basically. Not all air dry clays are paper clays, but a lot are. For example, Hearty and Mermaid Puffy are air dry clays :) Paper clays are just like regular air dry clay, at least the ones I have used.
Title: Re: Best Air dry clay?
Post by: NsMLPonies on September 29, 2017, 11:16:00 AM
apoxie sculpt
you can get it on amazon now :)

I can't use Apoxie sculpt because of the chemicals in it. I just use any air drying clay I can get my hands on; like DAS.

Do you use the DAS terracotta type of clay? I know that they have regular air dry clay, but from what I've read it's not very good.
Title: Re: Best Air dry clay?
Post by: bright rabbit 1 on October 11, 2017, 08:13:32 AM
apoxie sculpt
you can get it on amazon now :)

I can't use Apoxie sculpt because of the chemicals in it. I just use any air drying clay I can get my hands on; like DAS.

Do you use the DAS terracotta type of clay? I know that they have regular air dry clay, but from what I've read it's not very good.

I only use the White DAS clay. Sometimes I use creation station air drying clay, or Staedtler Fimo Air Basic drying clay (so far I've found and brought flesh color clay, and terracotta clay)
Title: Re: Best Air dry clay?
Post by: NsMLPonies on October 11, 2017, 10:14:46 AM
Ty everyone! I ended up using Model Air for now. It seems to be working pretty well so far. It only broke when i literally ripped a clay mask off of a pony, and even then I STILL haven't gotten the whole mask to come off. So I guess that it works pretty well. :)
Title: Re: Best Air dry clay?
Post by: CustomsRfun on October 17, 2017, 09:26:16 AM
I'm using MILIPUT 2-components epoxy clay.

Dries in a night and rock hard afterwards. It also glues by itself to the pony body.
It exists in several colors (white, black, terracotta), main difference is the price.
I usually takes the terracotta as it's the cheapest and I paint it afterwards anyway...
Title: Re: Best Air dry clay?
Post by: Mahna on October 22, 2017, 01:42:44 PM
Several years back before getting distracted and wandering away for a while, I did a bunch of ponies using miliput green stuff epoxy clay ( I had a couple tubes for wargaming) and that stuff lasts damn near forever. I did my own versions of the 4 ponies of the apocalypse plus a couple custom fallout ponies and I have never attempted to take any care of them just toss them in a box and move across country a couple times bounce them around without a care.

Green stuff takes a bit of getting used to like any other clay but it remains flexible for years without damaging.
Title: Re: Best Air dry clay?
Post by: bright rabbit 1 on October 27, 2017, 11:04:37 PM
I'm using MILIPUT 2-components epoxy clay.

Dries in a night and rock hard afterwards. It also glues by itself to the pony body.
It exists in several colors (white, black, terracotta), main difference is the price.
I usually takes the terracotta as it's the cheapest and I paint it afterwards anyway...

Will it work repairing a pony's body?
Title: Re: Best Air dry clay?
Post by: Mahna on October 28, 2017, 04:46:27 AM
It should, it all depends on how big the repair is.

One of my customs was chosen because the dog chewed on it. If you click on the link you can see my very crude sculpting job for the one wing and ear (warning I only needed to fix one wing). My sculpting abilities are not indicative of the ability of miliput to hold detail merely my lack of skill at the time.  https://nevwyn18.deviantart.com/gallery/35490281/Morning-Glory (https://nevwyn18.deviantart.com/gallery/35490281/Morning-Glory)

I didn't pin or glue anything in place I just smoothed the miliput over the edges and let it dry the epoxy in it has done all the work holding it for about six years now. As long as you are not trying to go over a gap that the putty will want to fall into then milliput can fix it no problem. If you do need to cross a large gap Miliput will still work but what you will need to do is roll it into a flat sheet and cure for about half an hour so that it is stiff and then carefully put it in place. Miliput is very easy to deform when it is fresh but still very workable for 30-45 minutes if what you are trying to do is carve flat shapes to place onto a surface.

Just keep in mind that it is an epoxy so it likes to stick to things so vaseline is your friend for both your fingers and your tools.
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