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Title: What do you get when you cross an elf and a hobbit?
Post by: bright rabbit 1 on July 31, 2017, 09:33:23 AM
Watching The Hobbit movies again. Then started reading a story where Bilbo is a female and she marries the Elven King.

What would their child be called?

 
Title: Re: What do you get when you cross an elf and a hobbit?
Post by: Mewtwofan1 on July 31, 2017, 10:42:49 AM
A holf. Or perhaps a hobelf. Or perhaps an elbit. None of these sound good though, so I'm saying they would probably call it the elf-hobbit-child. FIGHT ME LIKE AN ELFHOBBITCHILD!
Title: Re: What do you get when you cross an elf and a hobbit?
Post by: LadyMoondancer on August 01, 2017, 11:50:53 AM
This reminds me of in D&D how there's half-elves and half-orc (where the other half is human), but never, like, a gnome-orc kid.
Title: Re: What do you get when you cross an elf and a hobbit?
Post by: lostpony on August 01, 2017, 03:26:36 PM
Assuming biology similar to ours, it's a bigger issue as to what the results will actually be like than what to call it.

For example, since the hobbit (Bilbette?) is the source of the egg, and therefore contributes the cell structure and the cell DNA, if we assume the nuclear DNA is similar enough to produce offspring there are quite a few questions as to the traits of said offspring.  Will it inherit the agelessness of the elf?  I don't think that's a nuclear DNA feature...then again, maybe it is a nuclear DNA feature actually as it may have to do with the chromosome tails that we've discovered more recently, that shorten with each division and so perhaps those not shortening might be the source of the LotR version of immortality.  But is that feature dominant, or recessive?  Does it work that way?  I think this is important because if it's simple genetics like eye color, and the agelessness recessive like blue eyes, then perhaps the first hybrid generation would be heterogeneous and have short lifespans and the individuals born of the hybrids would have a 1 in 4 chance of being ageless.

Eh, that kinda matters I guess as to the naming, but what probably matters more is the physical appearance....mixing those groups would result in mixed-race individuals outcast by both groups, which would lead to less flattering names for them, unless their royal status makes them elites in which case they'd have more flattering names.

Um the short answer is I have no idea what to call them.  Elflings?  Hobves?  Half-elfs?  I think I would call them Sir or Madam because they could also be really really fast and I don't want to anger them, haha.
Title: Re: What do you get when you cross an elf and a hobbit?
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 01, 2017, 04:13:41 PM
A pointy eared short person?
Title: Re: What do you get when you cross an elf and a hobbit?
Post by: BlackCurtains on August 01, 2017, 04:53:07 PM
Are their ears hairy?
Title: Re: What do you get when you cross an elf and a hobbit?
Post by: ringwraith10 on August 02, 2017, 12:33:58 PM
Assuming biology similar to ours, it's a bigger issue as to what the results will actually be like than what to call it.

For example, since the hobbit (Bilbette?) is the source of the egg, and therefore contributes the cell structure and the cell DNA, if we assume the nuclear DNA is similar enough to produce offspring there are quite a few questions as to the traits of said offspring.  Will it inherit the agelessness of the elf?  I don't think that's a nuclear DNA feature...then again, maybe it is a nuclear DNA feature actually as it may have to do with the chromosome tails that we've discovered more recently, that shorten with each division and so perhaps those not shortening might be the source of the LotR version of immortality.  But is that feature dominant, or recessive?  Does it work that way?  I think this is important because if it's simple genetics like eye color, and the agelessness recessive like blue eyes, then perhaps the first hybrid generation would be heterogeneous and have short lifespans and the individuals born of the hybrids would have a 1 in 4 chance of being ageless.

Eh, that kinda matters I guess as to the naming, but what probably matters more is the physical appearance....mixing those groups would result in mixed-race individuals outcast by both groups, which would lead to less flattering names for them, unless their royal status makes them elites in which case they'd have more flattering names.

Um the short answer is I have no idea what to call them.  Elflings?  Hobves?  Half-elfs?  I think I would call them Sir or Madam because they could also be really really fast and I don't want to anger them, haha.
I suspect the child would inherit the immortality gene no matter what -- Elrond is half-elven and he is still immortal, as is his daughter. Because... magic?

Maybe it would be called an Ehobbitf? Um...
Title: Re: What do you get when you cross an elf and a hobbit?
Post by: lostpony on August 02, 2017, 01:15:14 PM
I'm not aware of Elrond being half-elf.

But, assuming the immortality is dominant no matter what is probably reasonable because you know, they're cooler.

How about Hobo-Elf, haha.
Title: Re: What do you get when you cross an elf and a hobbit?
Post by: Majesty on August 02, 2017, 06:20:43 PM
I'd say a helf. If it was already mentioned sorry.  :lookround:
Title: Re: What do you get when you cross an elf and a hobbit?
Post by: Mewtwofan1 on August 02, 2017, 09:47:33 PM

How about Hobo-Elf, haha.

 :silly:
Title: Re: What do you get when you cross an elf and a hobbit?
Post by: Beldarna on August 03, 2017, 08:18:14 AM
Assuming biology similar to ours, it's a bigger issue as to what the results will actually be like than what to call it.

For example, since the hobbit (Bilbette?) is the source of the egg, and therefore contributes the cell structure and the cell DNA, if we assume the nuclear DNA is similar enough to produce offspring there are quite a few questions as to the traits of said offspring.  Will it inherit the agelessness of the elf?  I don't think that's a nuclear DNA feature...then again, maybe it is a nuclear DNA feature actually as it may have to do with the chromosome tails that we've discovered more recently, that shorten with each division and so perhaps those not shortening might be the source of the LotR version of immortality.  But is that feature dominant, or recessive?  Does it work that way?  I think this is important because if it's simple genetics like eye color, and the agelessness recessive like blue eyes, then perhaps the first hybrid generation would be heterogeneous and have short lifespans and the individuals born of the hybrids would have a 1 in 4 chance of being ageless.

Eh, that kinda matters I guess as to the naming, but what probably matters more is the physical appearance....mixing those groups would result in mixed-race individuals outcast by both groups, which would lead to less flattering names for them, unless their royal status makes them elites in which case they'd have more flattering names.

Um the short answer is I have no idea what to call them.  Elflings?  Hobves?  Half-elfs?  I think I would call them Sir or Madam because they could also be really really fast and I don't want to anger them, haha.
I suspect the child would inherit the immortality gene no matter what -- Elrond is half-elven and he is still immortal, as is his daughter. Because... magic?

Maybe it would be called an Ehobbitf? Um...

Actually he chose to be immortal, while his twinbrother Elros (Aragons ancestor) decided to be mortal.
Title: Re: What do you get when you cross an elf and a hobbit?
Post by: kestral_kitsune on August 05, 2017, 05:57:22 PM
helf?

 I know its dwelf if you do dwarf and elf  but huh
Title: Re: What do you get when you cross an elf and a hobbit?
Post by: lostpony on August 06, 2017, 12:06:05 AM
Aside from the name, if we answer simply the question posed by the subject line, what we get when we cross a hobbit and an elf I think are pointy ears and hairy feet.
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