i think it depends on whether the product was made in response to a popular-release toy, or just released in general. for example, remcos were made in response to mlps being made, yes? so remco was trying to bank on hasbros success with tiny rainbow horses and make their own. if the intent is to try to emulate what hasbro was/is doing, then that makes it a fakie. if its just a horse toy, then i dont consider it a knock off. "my pretty pony" vs "breyer".
for example, remcos were made in response to mlps being made, yes? so remco was trying to bank on hasbros success with tiny rainbow horses and make their own. if the intent is to try to emulate what hasbro was/is doing, then that makes it a fakie.
for example, remcos were made in response to mlps being made, yes? so remco was trying to bank on hasbros success with tiny rainbow horses and make their own. if the intent is to try to emulate what hasbro was/is doing, then that makes it a fakie.
Some Remco ponies have 1981 and 1982 under their hooves. So they might have been there before/the same time as MLP. Ill go and see if one of mine carries it, will bring a pic if possible!
edit : yes, I have one :) Here is my MOC Remco boy Clyde Horse, he has 1982 under his left hind hoof.
http://einhornbaby.contract-killers.de/zeigen/remco2.jpg
http://einhornbaby.contract-killers.de/zeigen/remco.jpg
I'm guilty of using fakie when referring to any colorful horse that isn't MLP... but really I think a lot of them are their own thing... even if MLP came before others it doesn't mean another type of colorful horse toy can't have it's own identity. Otherwise shouldn't every doll in the world that isn't the first ever created be a fakie or knock off? XD I honestly have no idea if any of the other brands were around before my little pony though... and many are most definitely direct copies... then there are the fakies of 'fakies', like fake Remcos.
Either way, I love them all and I usually have the most fun collecting unique 'fakies' :P I hope I've made sense.
If they resemble mlp, like if they are pudgy and of similar plastic consistency or have some sort of symbol, I'd likely consider it a knockoff unless they were produced before mlp came out.
If they are just colorful horses I wouldn't say that automatically makes them a knockoff (though they could still be riding on mlp popularity), especially if they have their own recognized line and features.
Quality is also something I look for, as most fakies are below-par in either hair or paint details, even plastic.
Remcos remind me of Precious Moments pictures, very rounded and soft.
And Totsys have those eyes that just scream I solemnly swear I am up to no good. :lol:
If they resemble mlp, like if they are pudgy and of similar plastic consistency or have some sort of symbol, I'd likely consider it a knockoff unless they were produced before mlp came out.
If they are just colorful horses I wouldn't say that automatically makes them a knockoff (though they could still be riding on mlp popularity), especially if they have their own recognized line and features.
Quality is also something I look for, as most fakies are below-par in either hair or paint details, even plastic.
I believe distinct styles count them out as generic knock offs.
I have two Merry Hooves, they're smaller, hard plastic with umm....interesting eyes, flocking, moulded hair, they have a decent weight and are distinctly horse like in their proportions, as opposed to the pudgier pony like style of earlier gens, or bobble headed style of the current one.
I also have a Boley Fantasy Pony who has a slender, G3 style body with G3 wings and a wide horselike head and no nostrils for some reason.
Remcos remind me of Precious Moments pictures, very rounded and soft.
And Totsys have those eyes that just scream I solemnly swear I am up to no good. :lol:
If they resemble mlp, like if they are pudgy and of similar plastic consistency or have some sort of symbol, I'd likely consider it a knockoff unless they were produced before mlp came out.
If they are just colorful horses I wouldn't say that automatically makes them a knockoff (though they could still be riding on mlp popularity), especially if they have their own recognized line and features.
Quality is also something I look for, as most fakies are below-par in either hair or paint details, even plastic.
I believe distinct styles count them out as generic knock offs.
I have two Merry Hooves, they're smaller, hard plastic with umm....interesting eyes, flocking, moulded hair, they have a decent weight and are distinctly horse like in their proportions, as opposed to the pudgier pony like style of earlier gens, or bobble headed style of the current one.
I also have a Boley Fantasy Pony who has a slender, G3 style body with G3 wings and a wide horselike head and no nostrils for some reason.
Remcos remind me of Precious Moments pictures, very rounded and soft.
And Totsys have those eyes that just scream I solemnly swear I am up to no good. :lol:
Remcos I'd consider fakies, I'm not familiar with Merry Hooves though. I looked it up and it does seem like they do have symbols, which I would consider something mlp started so I'd say fakie. I'm looking at a pink one with purple hair and a tiara, it's actually pretty cute!
Haha, no nostrils is weird! Even a little indent would make me feel better. Well, unless it's really stylized, like Takara. Now I'm wondering what they'd look like with some little dots on the nose.
I love fakies, but what I love the most about them isn't how close they can get to looking like the real deal, it's how creative they can get, doing things the original line might never see.
My favorites are Lucky Ponies, with their weird eyes and fun poses. Their presence of symbols along with being colorful is like a neon sign saying "I'm totally based off of mlp!".
for example, remcos were made in response to mlps being made, yes? so remco was trying to bank on hasbros success with tiny rainbow horses and make their own. if the intent is to try to emulate what hasbro was/is doing, then that makes it a fakie.
Some Remco ponies have 1981 and 1982 under their hooves. So they might have been there before/the same time as MLP. Ill go and see if one of mine carries it, will bring a pic if possible!
edit : yes, I have one :) Here is my MOC Remco boy Clyde Horse, he has 1982 under his left hind hoof.
http://einhornbaby.contract-killers.de/zeigen/remco2.jpg
http://einhornbaby.contract-killers.de/zeigen/remco.jpg
for example, remcos were made in response to mlps being made, yes? so remco was trying to bank on hasbros success with tiny rainbow horses and make their own. if the intent is to try to emulate what hasbro was/is doing, then that makes it a fakie.
Some Remco ponies have 1981 and 1982 under their hooves. So they might have been there before/the same time as MLP. Ill go and see if one of mine carries it, will bring a pic if possible!
edit : yes, I have one :) Here is my MOC Remco boy Clyde Horse, he has 1982 under his left hind hoof.
http://einhornbaby.contract-killers.de/zeigen/remco2.jpg
http://einhornbaby.contract-killers.de/zeigen/remco.jpg
Which brings us to an Earth-shattering question... Are MLPs actually fakies of Remco ponies!? :shocked:
(Kidding, lol. XD But it's funny to think about...)
If they resemble mlp, like if they are pudgy and of similar plastic consistency or have some sort of symbol, I'd likely consider it a knockoff unless they were produced before mlp came out.
If they are just colorful horses I wouldn't say that automatically makes them a knockoff (though they could still be riding on mlp popularity), especially if they have their own recognized line and features.
Quality is also something I look for, as most fakies are below-par in either hair or paint details, even plastic.
I believe distinct styles count them out as generic knock offs.
I have two Merry Hooves, they're smaller, hard plastic with umm....interesting eyes, flocking, moulded hair, they have a decent weight and are distinctly horse like in their proportions, as opposed to the pudgier pony like style of earlier gens, or bobble headed style of the current one.
I also have a Boley Fantasy Pony who has a slender, G3 style body with G3 wings and a wide horselike head and no nostrils for some reason.
Remcos remind me of Precious Moments pictures, very rounded and soft.
And Totsys have those eyes that just scream I solemnly swear I am up to no good. :lol:
Remcos I'd consider fakies, I'm not familiar with Merry Hooves though. I looked it up and it does seem like they do have symbols, which I would consider something mlp started so I'd say fakie. I'm looking at a pink one with purple hair and a tiara, it's actually pretty cute!
Haha, no nostrils is weird! Even a little indent would make me feel better. Well, unless it's really stylized, like Takara. Now I'm wondering what they'd look like with some little dots on the nose.
I love fakies, but what I love the most about them isn't how close they can get to looking like the real deal, it's how creative they can get, doing things the original line might never see.
My favorites are Lucky Ponies, with their weird eyes and fun poses. Their presence of symbols along with being colorful is like a neon sign saying "I'm totally based off of mlp!".
I've never heard of Lucky Ponies. Might you have pictures please? :)
Huh. I didn't know Totsy had Big Brothers?
Ooh, wow! I want one of the "big brothers"!
(Limone Mellow, I love the pony art in your sig!)
Thanks for pointing me towards Vetten's collection... I found the page showing the magazine scans... wow! gosh I love fakies... there's so many types and I'm always finding something new.
(the art is awesome~ I'll have to see if they've done more. ^^)
These aren't my pictures, but here are some examples! I've saved a bunch of pictures on my phone because I'm interested in collecting both.
I just call them Big Brothers, I think I've seen other people calling them that too.
These guys, similar head, eyes and shoulder symbol:
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I realize this is highly subjective, but my own personal metric for whether something is a fakie or not is whether or not there's a reasonable chance your average adult would mistake it for the real thing when shopping for their kid. By this standard, Totsy, Princess Rinse 'N' Spit, Lanard, etc. are fakies, since the proportions and general "feel" of the toys are very similar. On the other hand, I would not consider Bratz Ponies to be fakies because even though they share the same general concept of being a brushable plastic horse, the aesthetic of the toy is completely different and not likely to fool even your average Joe into thinking it's MLP.
I realize this is highly subjective, but my own personal metric for whether something is a fakie or not is whether or not there's a reasonable chance your average adult would mistake it for the real thing when shopping for their kid. By this standard, Totsy, Princess Rinse 'N' Spit, Lanard, etc. are fakies, since the proportions and general "feel" of the toys are very similar. On the other hand, I would not consider Bratz Ponies to be fakies because even though they share the same general concept of being a brushable plastic horse, the aesthetic of the toy is completely different and not likely to fool even your average Joe into thinking it's MLP.
That's actually the same thing I think of when trying to distinguish what I might consider a fakie vs something else entirely. Would my mom or step dad mistake this for a My Little Pony - (or in my step dad's case there's no such thing as My Little Pony it's all My Pretty Pony). So there are some I would label as a fakie based on their knowledge. Even though the pony toy in questions may be completely different and I wouldn't personally say it was a fakie, but judge it as it's own thing. So basically most rainbow colored horses with the exception of some of that come from other well known brands (think Barbie or Disney Palace Pets) I will label as a fakie even if I don't feel they actually are.
My friend Zejgar made a video about this, I think he has a point. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He-5nrU0pqY)
I need to take pictures of my Remco ponies, and try to seek out new variants out there. Though I have one I wish I knew more about.
I need to take pictures of my Remco ponies, and try to seek out new variants out there. Though I have one I wish I knew more about.
I'd be very interested in seeing! I have very few true Remcos... some of my childhood ponies were fake Remcos though. :P
My friend Zejgar made a video about this, I think he has a point. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He-5nrU0pqY)
My friend Zejgar made a video about this, I think he has a point. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He-5nrU0pqY)
Omigosh I love your friend's video! and not just because I like the character and the robo-voice. Zejgar's writing is simply inspired together with that synthetic voice. "this might take a while" etc and the way his Filly looks at the viewer from time to time.
I also love the packaging for the knockoff "my happy horse" but the toy itself is somewhat lacking...such an outrageous rip-off yet somehow still desireable...
Does anyone know, do any of the common well-known fakies that might be their own thing, like Remcos in particular, have little backstory cards?
I need to take pictures of my Remco ponies, and try to seek out new variants out there. Though I have one I wish I knew more about.
I'd be very interested in seeing! I have very few true Remcos... some of my childhood ponies were fake Remcos though. :P
I need to take pictures of my Remco ponies, and try to seek out new variants out there. Though I have one I wish I knew more about.
I'd be very interested in seeing! I have very few true Remcos... some of my childhood ponies were fake Remcos though. :P
we shopuld make a thread about Remco Ponies :) I have a little collection too and would love to chat about them <3
I need to take pictures of my Remco ponies, and try to seek out new variants out there. Though I have one I wish I knew more about.
I'd be very interested in seeing! I have very few true Remcos... some of my childhood ponies were fake Remcos though. :P
we shopuld make a thread about Remco Ponies :) I have a little collection too and would love to chat about them <3
Ooh yes... I would also be happy to see a revival of he general fakie discussion thread sometime too.
I'd also love to learn more about Merry Hooves. ^.^
Ah she's cute....only the namehas been stolenis coincidentally the same, otherwise she's original.
Oooh, I want some! I love the artwork on Princess Dreamer/Luna's card. Where can they be found? ^.^
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I love those G4 mixed with G3.5; might be fake but so wonderful! and the other is straight up "funny", haha as in...funny looking.
Speaking of fakies, here's one of my favorites. It says Playmates on the bottom and it's luxuriously thick soft plastic and smells of vanilla. I've never found another one, is it familiar to anyone?
I just washed it and re-styled it; had it sitting too close to other ponywashes and got all stippled up with cleanser, haha. About the size of a regular G1.
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(http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/alostpony/media/fakie1_zpsrzhfx0i6.jpg.html)
I love those G4 mixed with G3.5; might be fake but so wonderful! and the other is straight up "funny", haha as in...funny looking.
Speaking of fakies, here's one of my favorites. It says Playmates on the bottom and it's luxuriously thick soft plastic and smells of vanilla. I've never found another one, is it familiar to anyone?
I just washed it and re-styled it; had it sitting too close to other ponywashes and got all stippled up with cleanser, haha. About the size of a regular G1.
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(http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/alostpony/media/fakie1_zpsrzhfx0i6.jpg.html)
I love those G4 mixed with G3.5; might be fake but so wonderful! and the other is straight up "funny", haha as in...funny looking.
Speaking of fakies, here's one of my favorites. It says Playmates on the bottom and it's luxuriously thick soft plastic and smells of vanilla. I've never found another one, is it familiar to anyone?
I just washed it and re-styled it; had it sitting too close to other ponywashes and got all stippled up with cleanser, haha. About the size of a regular G1.
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(http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/alostpony/media/fakie1_zpsrzhfx0i6.jpg.html)
Here's my onion.
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