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Title: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: kasin on February 22, 2017, 07:58:08 AM
As a collectable, how important is brushable hair for MLP? I noticed G4 (which I do not know well) has molded hair versions of some of the main characters toys, but they do not seem popular? As collectors, how important is being able to style and play with their hair? Is the hair part of what makes this toy appealing to display and collect?
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: Jorgito93 on February 22, 2017, 08:20:43 AM
Brushable hair is a very important thing for MLP, and i think a lot of collectors will agree with me.I think a lot of g4 have molded hair because bronies prefer these.
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: EnaRocketQueen on February 22, 2017, 08:36:08 AM
Brushable hair definitely! I know molded hair looks more accurate to the show (Which is why Bronies like it), but brushable hair has so many possibilities for styles!
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: LunaMoonCustoms1212 on February 22, 2017, 09:00:00 AM
I think that most people like the brushable hair because that's what MLP has always had since the beginning, and molded hair is more of a brony thing (not that there's anything wrong with that ;))
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 22, 2017, 09:01:37 AM
This question needs a poll friend. ;)

Brushable all the way. It's a Hallmark of the brand and yes I do have a blindbag or two and molded hair isn't new to MLP and definitely not new to model horses.
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: plushroo on February 22, 2017, 09:07:12 AM
I prefer the brushable hair because I believe it's what made MLP popular. Little girls being able to comb and style hair, like with dolls. Without hair to style, you just have another plastic toy with nothing much to offer other than just using your imagination. I love the benefit of taking pony hair and cleaning it, brushing it and getting it disheveled again.
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 22, 2017, 09:14:28 AM
I prefer the brushable hair because I believe it's what made MLP popular. Little girls being able to comb and style hair, like with dolls. Without hair to style, you just have another plastic toy with nothing much to offer other than just using your imagination. I love the benefit of taking pony hair and cleaning it, brushing it and getting it disheveled again.

I never understood the logic that an all molded toy means it's not much fun. Molded toys come with other toys and accessories more often then not and plenty of kids have a grand old time with them.  That's just as illogical as saying that toys are only fun if they're fully poseable.
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on February 22, 2017, 10:10:03 AM
When I was a kid, my friends and I would have pony "Spa" days where we would just grab a bunch and give them baths.  So now, brushable hair is a nostalgia thing for me. 

As a customizer, I like having the option of either.  I like being able to mix paint colors and create unique hair colors on molded pony creations, which is an option I can't as easily reproduce when re-rooting hair because I don't always have the color I want and dying isn't always an option to get it.
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: Duenia on February 22, 2017, 10:58:08 AM
I honestly like both. I love being able to style my ponies how I want their hair to be, and I also love being able to have something show accurate. I definitely enjoy that molded hair is easier to remove dust from though lol.

As a kid I preferred brushable hair because I always wanted to change things the way I wanted them. But molded was less stressful because I didn't have to worry about messing it up while I played. Messy hair always bugged me a lot.
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: kasin on February 22, 2017, 11:42:13 AM
This topic is comming from a conversation I was having with a non collector about what makes a MLP a MLP. Aside from the obvious colorful ponies, is it the hair? the responce seems overwhelming in favor of brushable hair, so would you say it's a defining  hallmark of the toy?

I want to compare MLP to other collectable horses like Breyer  and Stones, but is it more of a doll maybe??
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on February 22, 2017, 12:09:17 PM
This topic is comming from a conversation I was having with a non collector about what makes a MLP a MLP. Aside from the obvious colorful ponies, is it the hair? the responce seems overwhelming in favor of brushable hair, so would you say it's a defining  hallmark of the toy?

I want to compare MLP to other collectable horses like Breyer  and Stones, but is it more of a doll maybe??

Actually, I think it has more to do with the eyes than the hair.  Lots of fakies have brushable hair but most of them can't get the eyes just right.  That's usually a giveaway when someone has used a real MLP as a base for a fakie mold.  And just look into the eyes of a G1 baby.  That's what hooks you.  ;)
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: Wardah on February 22, 2017, 12:14:29 PM
Brushable hair is a very important thing for MLP, and i think a lot of collectors will agree with me.I think a lot of g4 have molded hair because bronies prefer these.

I don't think the molded hair was because bronies like it because G3 had the Ponyvilles which were the precursor to the current blind bag ponies. And the bigger ones with molded hair I feel are part of a 2 pronged approach. One is to provide something meant for girls who are into more actiony play and two to make MLP toys that boys don't feel too embarrassed to play with. Lately Hasbro has been trying to be more progressive. They even added a "daddy" option to Baby Alive.

This topic is comming from a conversation I was having with a non collector about what makes a MLP a MLP. Aside from the obvious colorful ponies, is it the hair? the responce seems overwhelming in favor of brushable hair, so would you say it's a defining  hallmark of the toy?

I want to compare MLP to other collectable horses like Breyer  and Stones, but is it more of a doll maybe??

I feel what sets it apart is more that they are stylized and colorful. There are plenty of realistic horses out there that have brushable hair.
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: LadyMoondancer on February 22, 2017, 01:11:48 PM
I don't think Hasbro has molded hair "because bronies like it" at all.  I think it's because some kids want their toys to resemble their cartoon counterpart as closely as possible.  The G4 toyline is very closely tied to the G4 cartoon, which is kind of a new thing for MLP.  But yeah, a lot of kids are going to want / expect to see Rainbow Dash with a short 'do, etc.

Just like, as a kid I wanted a SwiftWind who was white, like he was on She-Ra, not . . . this.

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All pink?  Really?  And the argument that "they had to so little girls would buy it!" falls through when Bow had a completely blue horse and Catra had this horse:

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But I digress . . .

I liked brushing my ponies hair as a kid.  G1 had such great quality hair and such lush, thick tails. But I did NOT like "styling" my ponies' hair, and I still don't.  Brushing it, yes.  Styling it, no.  I just wanted it to look neat and tidy.  And if it had original curl, it was very very very important to me that it kept the original curl.  (I remember crying when my sister braided Angel's hair, because after the braids were taken out the curl was gone.)  In that sense, I did find curly haired ponies slightly stressful.  They had less play value to me because I had to be extra careful with them, so they got left out of a lot of pony adventures.

Do I think all MLPs should have brushable hair, or that they aren't real MLPs without brushable hair?  No.
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: Shy Violet on February 22, 2017, 01:29:17 PM
Personally I like brushable hair and always have since I was a kid. I don't like molded hair at all but some do. I do enjoy styling their hair but I'm also not worried about show accuracy.

I don't think brushable hair is a defining hallmark of MLP. I think it's a combination of how colorful they are, having a symbol/cutie mark/brushable hair and the ability to play with them in a similar way as dolls. Like styling them, dressing them up, having houses and families, etc. I don't think it can be pinpointed down to one thing but instead it's encompassing so many things into one toy.
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 22, 2017, 02:50:20 PM
I think Hasbro started doing blindbags because they saw how profitable it was for other companies .

Besides, didn't G1 have ceramic figures? And of course McDonalds ponies with half brushable, half molded hair . Plus the Ponyvilles and Tiny Tins.
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: LadyMoondancer on February 22, 2017, 03:43:43 PM
Good point.  The first set of Petite ponies had molded hair too.  (Well, all of them had molded manes I guess, but the first set also had molded tails.)  I think those ones actually look better than the "Ponytail" Petites.
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: Stormness_1 on February 22, 2017, 07:23:46 PM
Brushable. I just don't enjoy moulded hair. Even when I had the choice to buy realistic horses, I preferred Grand Champions to Breyer horses because of this.
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: shabbychicdee on February 22, 2017, 08:17:44 PM
brushable hair all the way too.
other wise its just a shelf sitting collectable for older children - adults, though younger kids play more with an imagination it really helps having a gimmick with a toy and with mlp its its hair, brushes and ribbons. to me its like having a transformer toy that doesn't transform into anything that just stands there just being a robot or a car.
things that you can change on a toy is fun.......styling.......transforming :)

personally i don't think i would have got into mlp as a child if they just had molded hair, too boring and i was 8 i think and into that pretty hair accessories thing.

btw i just ran of to ask my 6yr what they prefer out of their mlp toys. molded hair or brushable and they said brushable waaaaaaaay better.
each to their own i say but seems more for older peeps who just want to collect and display them on shelves.
or maybe its a budget thing, i would imagine its a lot cheaper to make things without another process of sewing nylon hair into a toy.
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: mlly on February 22, 2017, 08:20:11 PM
While having brushable hair is not what makes a pony MLP, it's still a nice thing to have, and is still a staple of the brand/franchise, a part of its "DNA" if you get what I mean.

Much like Transformers that don't transform, there is nothing wrong with MLPs w/ molded hair and they are needed for variety, HOWEVER, they should NOT overtake most or even half of the toys.

I don't see how having molded hair will make the toys more "gender-neutral", brushable hair is no more "girly" than pretty much every other characteristic the current toys already have.


Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: goddessofpeep on February 22, 2017, 09:17:04 PM
I think brushable hair is a defining feature of what makes a My Little Pony a true My Little Pony. At its core, MLP has always been a colorful plastic horse with brushable hair.  You ask pretty much anyone to define what a MLP is, and that's what they'll come up with.  When people make bootlegs, that's what they make.  Otherwise it's just a horse figure. To take away the brushable hair is to remove important functionality of the toy itself.  It's one of the key ways the toy is meant to be played with. 

It would be like taking away the articulation of a GI Joe.  It would still be a similar looking toy if you did that, but posing it is one of the most important features of the toy.  Without that, it's not a full GI Joe - it's something else with a GI Joe name and a GI Joe look.  It could be part of the GI Joe line, but it wouldn't be considered a full GI Joe if it was missing the ability to be posed.  You don't see Mattel making molded hair Barbie because people who buy Barbie want hair to play with.  It's a key feature of the toy.   

Hasbro has experimented with pony gimmicks and smaller sub-lines of ponies before.  You've got the Petites and the Dream Beauties of the first generation.  G3 basically rebooted the tiny pony figure concept of the Petites with their Ponyville line, and that carried over into the G4 blind bags.  But those are not the main line ponies.  They're their own set and their own thing.  They may coexist with the regular ponies, but they're not a replacement, and they're never what people think of when someone just says "My Little Pony".  It's always "MLP Petite" or "Blind bag MLP".  You need that extra label to distinguish it from the regular line because it is a different kind of toy. 

The Guardians of Harmony line is more a MLP action figure line to me than a true MLP main line.  It's part of the entire MLP line, but it is its own separate thing.  They took away one functionality(brushable hair) and added in another one(articulation) to make something new and different.  It's very closely related, but it's not the same thing.   
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: glitterball on February 22, 2017, 10:08:27 PM
Brushable!
Memories of school playtime + sitting outside with my friends, under a tree, plaiting our ponies, tying ribbons etc.

Actually, I think it has more to do with the eyes than the hair.  Lots of fakies have brushable hair but most of them can't get the eyes just right.  That's usually a giveaway when someone has used a real MLP as a base for a fakie mold.  And just look into the eyes of a G1 baby.  That's what hooks you.  ;)

The eyes of g1 mlp are just beautiful!
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: Taffeta on February 23, 2017, 02:18:54 AM
For me, succinctly - no hair, no point :)

And all the playset petites in Europe had brushable tails. I prefer those.
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 23, 2017, 04:00:56 AM
 :iconclap: :thumb: Well said Goddessofpeep.
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: Pinkie21 on February 23, 2017, 06:32:25 AM
To me, if it has molded hair, it is not MLP. 
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: Heart891011 on February 23, 2017, 01:51:52 PM
Brushable because it's fun to style their hair. The molded hair ones aren't even as popular. My Walmart is completely sold out of brushables (without playsets) only has GOH, blind bags, fash'ems, the reboots with yarn hair, and plushies (and the playsets obviously.) so more children like the brushables too.
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: Wardah on February 23, 2017, 02:08:10 PM
Brushable because it's fun to style their hair. The molded hair ones aren't even as popular. My Walmart is completely sold out of brushables (without playsets) only has GOH, blind bags, fash'ems, the reboots with yarn hair, and plushies (and the playsets obviously.) so more children like the brushables too.

For a long time brushables just shelf sat until they finally started making them more interesting than endless Mane 6 in the same static molds.
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: Baby Sugarberry on February 23, 2017, 02:15:09 PM
Brushable hair is a must for me.  There's something undeniably soothing about sitting down with a few ponies and simply grooming them, adding ribbons or braids, or just running my fingers through silky manes and tails.
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: gummybuns on February 23, 2017, 02:49:11 PM
I prefer brushable hair as I like playing with it, not really into styling, as I like to keep my ponies manes close to how I got them, but I do like to feel their manes, molded manes are ok, I mean I like the fact that they're "Show accurate" but I mean there's plenty of tutorials on how to style your ponies manes to look that way as well.
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: sd_dreamcrystal on February 23, 2017, 10:14:31 PM
I prefer brushable hair over molded, but I'll take both if I must.
One reason I don't like molded hair is the fact that even some accessories for some molded hair looks off/wonky.. case in point hats for many of the blind bags... they kind of work but they really don't work. I could care less for show accuracy, just give me something that if it comes with a hat said had will actually look right on it (and before someone says something, yes I know some cases the accessories are specially designed for molded hair but execution is not always on par ;) )
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: Galactica on February 24, 2017, 10:31:13 AM
I love brushable hair- but not when it is so ridiculously thin like the tails on the G4 standard size brushable ponies.

I think kids like to play with thier toys-  although the recent GOH ponies don't have brushable hair- they do have more posing posibilities- so I have to assume kids are going to like that.  I find the GOH stuffs surprisingly appealing.
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: LadyMoondancer on February 24, 2017, 11:02:27 AM
The tails on the G4s are set too low, as well.  They don't look right.  :/  Real horses' tails start right after their spine.  Obviously I don't expect a MLP to adhere strictly to horse anatomy, but it would look so much better if they would just move them up a smidge.
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: LunaMoonCustoms1212 on February 24, 2017, 11:46:09 AM
The tails on the G4s are set too low, as well.  They don't look right.  :/  Real horses' tails start right after their spine.  Obviously I don't expect a MLP to adhere strictly to horse anatomy, but it would look so much better if they would just move them up a smidge.

yeah i feel the same way, they just need to be a little farther up so that they look better when standing, the GoH did a pretty good job, they were quite a bit higher up.
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: ashlyne on February 24, 2017, 11:57:42 AM
There are a few things I think of when I think of "classic" MLP (the main lines, not the spin-off or gimmicky sub-collections)

1) Brushable hair, makes it a bit more doll-like than an action figure.
2) Colorful variety and collectability
3) Unique symbols that define each one

When it comes to G1's there's a fourth characteristic:   4) Soft plastic, vinyl bodies.  This sets them apart from a lot of the other horse toys that were out at that time (not including fakies who just want to be MLPs)   I don't think I would've enjoyed them as much with hard plastic bodies, honestly, and it's one of my gripes about the G2 and G4 lines.   

Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: kasin on February 24, 2017, 01:02:51 PM
Yes Ashlyne! I completely agree about the soft vinyl body being a important element from G1. It's a big kill joy for the G2 and G4 lines for me too.

Character variety was very important for the G1 line as well and the lack of it in G3 and G4 really makes them hard for me to enjoy collecting. I think character variety is why MLP has a much bigger collector community than other popular 80s toy lines like Rainbow Bright, Strawberry Shortcake or Care Bears.
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: ashlyne on February 24, 2017, 01:17:22 PM
I thought the G3 had a pretty good variety in my opinion, up until the Core 7 idea came out. If you look at the years from 2003-2007, there were very few repeats in the line, and some gorgeous variety in the herd.   Unfortunately, Core 7 killed it :( and the good part of the generation didn't last nearly as long as the first generation.
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: Baby Sugarberry on February 24, 2017, 01:52:43 PM
G3 lacked diversity in colors more than it lacked diversity in characters - so much pink, purple and white!  There are precious few G3's without one of those three, alas.
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: Galactica on February 24, 2017, 03:03:44 PM
The tails on the G4s are set too low, as well.  They don't look right.  :/  Real horses' tails start right after their spine.  Obviously I don't expect a MLP to adhere strictly to horse anatomy, but it would look so much better if they would just move them up a smidge.

Yes- exactly.  And true MLP anatomy is a bit silly anyway- but THIS doesn't comport with the anatomy of ANY animal on earth. No animal has a tail coming from THERE.
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: Baby Sugarberry on February 24, 2017, 03:08:56 PM
*snorts* No, they certainly don't have tails growing from *there*.    :pout:  Oh Hasbro.  What were you thinking?
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: dragonfly on February 24, 2017, 04:54:48 PM
I prefer brushable. But as long as it's not a combination of molded and brushable on the same pony (ex: molded mane, brushable tail), it's all right by me.
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: LadyMoondancer on February 24, 2017, 05:08:16 PM
If Hasbro made Breyers:

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Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: Galactica on February 24, 2017, 05:33:41 PM
lol- exactly!

Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 24, 2017, 05:50:04 PM
G3 lacked diversity in colors more than it lacked diversity in characters - so much pink, purple and white!  There are precious few G3's without one of those three, alas.

No it didn't. It had nearly every color of the rainbow including black, gray and red. Two of which had never been introduced before. I don't know why people say that? There's a ton of orange, yellow, blue and green out there. Not to mention art pop, tie dye etc.

Plus it's not like there were barely any pink, purple and white in every other generation. There was plenty. By your definition, all MLP gens have little color  diversity, despite obvious evidence to the contrary.

Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: kasin on February 24, 2017, 06:45:18 PM
If Hasbro made Breyers:

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Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: sd_dreamcrystal on February 24, 2017, 07:17:45 PM
I love brushable hair- but not when it is so ridiculously thin like the tails on the G4 standard size brushable ponies.

I think kids like to play with thier toys-  although the recent GOH ponies don't have brushable hair- they do have more posing posibilities- so I have to assume kids are going to like that.  I find the GOH stuffs surprisingly appealing.
The GoH figures are more likely to lose wings and tails. Seriously there isn't much holding them there XD
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: LadyMoondancer on February 24, 2017, 08:59:05 PM
G3 had good diversity* until the Crystal Princess line.  Too many pink/white/purple lookalike ponies after that point.

* except hardly any unicorns and pegasi, which I still don't get.

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Wow, creative.

Butterfly Island had the best of G3 IMO.
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: Baby Sugarberry on February 24, 2017, 09:01:03 PM
G3 lacked diversity in colors more than it lacked diversity in characters - so much pink, purple and white!  There are precious few G3's without one of those three, alas.

No it didn't. It had nearly every color of the rainbow including black, gray and red. Two of which had never been introduced before. I don't know why people say that? There's a ton of orange, yellow, blue and green out there. Not to mention art pop, tie dye etc.

I wasn't implying that they didn't make G3's in every color, but that the dominant colors are Pink, Purple and White.  Just look at Strawberry Reef sorted by color.  There are 34 ponies listed under 'green' (only FEW of which escape from pink/purple/white completely) and 209 ponies listed under 'pink'.  Don't try to tell me there's not a color bias going on, please
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 25, 2017, 07:01:45 AM
G3 lacked diversity in colors more than it lacked diversity in characters - so much pink, purple and white!  There are precious few G3's without one of those three, alas.

No it didn't. It had nearly every color of the rainbow including black, gray and red. Two of which had never been introduced before. I don't know why people say that? There's a ton of orange, yellow, blue and green out there. Not to mention art pop, tie dye etc.

I wasn't implying that they didn't make G3's in every color, but that the dominant colors are Pink, Purple and White.  Just look at Strawberry Reef sorted by color.  There are 34 ponies listed under 'green' (only FEW of which escape from pink/purple/white completely) and 209 ponies listed under 'pink'.  Don't try to tell me there's not a color bias going on, please.

There's still plenty of color diversity in the G3s. In fact it is just as, if not more diverse as G1. There was plenty of pink, white and purple in body, hair and symbol there too. Does this mean G1 has little diversity? No.

 With all respect, I really don't understand where this misconception comes from.

The only diversity that Gen lacks is species and obviously no males. Sure it brought back merponies and introduced Breezies, but the ratio of everything else to earth ponies was ridiculous.

 Plus there are only so many color combos you can do. And G3 not only had a ton of color, but they made some truly gorgeous and interesting  color combos including some we haven't seen before or since. Especially with hair. Wishawhirl, Peacock, Autumn Skye, Tropical Surprise, Chilly Breezes, Port-a-bella, Aurora Mist, Underwater, Silver Glow, Twinkle Hope, Thistle Whistle, Good vs. Evil, Superhero, Velvet Bow, Black and Blue, Citrus Sweetheart, Applejack, Tropical Delight.
There's some seriously stunning, brushable hair in the G3 line.




Post Merge: February 25, 2017, 07:06:59 AM

The tails on the G4s are set too low, as well.  They don't look right.  :/  Real horses' tails start right after their spine.  Obviously I don't expect a MLP to adhere strictly to horse anatomy, but it would look so much better if they would just move them up a smidge.

I know it bugs me. I'm glad my Princess Luna has it where a horse ought to at least.
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: Baby Sugarberry on February 25, 2017, 04:14:21 PM
We'll just have to agree to disagree then.  Hasbro got lazy in producing new characters (See: Bore 7), and stuck to a limited colour palette/themes for a good chunk of the G3 line, especially near the end (See: ponies by colour breakdown on Strawberry Reef).    Regardless, this isn't the topic of discussion. 

G4 tails are so disappointing - like not only in their placement, but how thin and ratty they often are.  It makes me super sad.  The trend started with G3 even, where they had nice full manes but somewhat meagre tails, which is s shame since tails are so much fun to braid and brush.  Have to wonder what they're going to knock off the next generation - G3's lost half their symbols, G4's most of the size/hair/looking like a pony, doesn't leave much left.  Maybe Hasbro's going to ditch brushable hair completely by G5.  I hope not!
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: Motion-Paradox on February 25, 2017, 08:50:59 PM
Molded in almost every regard, It's a reverse from the majority here, but a toy with molded hair is something I'd have more fun playing with since it would stay nice looking no matter what, while one with brushable hair would be more of a display thing because it tangles easily.

Now to clarify I don't outright despise brushable hair; I don't care what variety of hair the Pony toy I'm buying has and even though I didn't enjoy playing with it as a child I more accepted it as a thing that came with the territory than anything else; Barbies had brushable hair and extra clothing pieces you could buy for the girls that liked that sort of thing, they weren't an integral part of playing with the dolls, just an option that was being left open for the majority. Having said that my favourite Barbie doll was the Mulan one with her training outfit, it was based on a character I already liked, had elbows and knees that moved, and her hair couldn't tangle. Even then I confess that when I played with my Babysitter's old G1 Ponies that I liked the outfits she had for the baby ones and would do holiday themed stories with them.


In regards to Ponies as a plaything I'm biased by my own childhood; I found the brushable hair on my dolls to be a pain growing up since it would get tangled and I didn't enjoy brushing it, know anything about styling it, and if I wanted it fixed I'd have to get my mom to do it (I actually have a Kelly doll with hair that goes strait back because of this, I never played rough with my toys either so I have no idea how it happened), for me hair brushing was never fun and it's part of the reason I usually kept it short growing up. I remember with my G2 ponies one had little velcro hair decorations I had trouble with because they would tangle the hair when I took them out, I do know my tastes were a bit compared to other girls though; I had typical girly things I liked but not always in the way they did (I didn't enjoy doing ballet, but I liked watching it), and I wasn't an outright tomboy either (I didn't really enjoy sports) and my most favourite ones were tiny things like teeny weeny families. Having said that, I loved toys based on actual characters and creating new scenarios for them to act out and show accuracy would have mattered to me (No I'm not projecting, I actually upgraded to a better Pikachu doll twice and made plush Digimon that were more detailed than the official bean bag ones we ended up getting).


As a display piece it doesn't make as big a difference as there are fewer opportunities for their hair to be  messed up, but since my collecting is more character based (most of my G1 Ponies are either ones from the shows or for a gimmick they have) having sculpted hair and being show accurate works better for me. Having said that it is much easier to have a coheisive set when there are characters you have to customise for; there are some Ponies I'd like to have toys of that I'm having to get that way, while I'm a bit unsure of what to do with the Equestria Girls minis lines since I'd like to have dolls of Sonata & Aria but am not very confident in my sculpting abilities.


As for what makes a My Little Pony toy, I'd say it's a bit tricky to pin down since a variety of styles have been used over the years, but....

1-A more fanciful quality and departing from realistic phenotypes: This is mostly in regards to differentiating Ponies from more realistic horse toys, but even comparing a G1 My Little Pony toy to a real Pony you can see that the toy is more stylised and a bit anthropomorphised (at least enough that they can see forwards) and certainly the toys are more colourful (Which I love, this applies to characters as well; one thing I find odd about Western animation is how, generally, characters that are human only have human eye and hair colours).

2-Attention to detail: Even when bootleg toys use official moulds they lack the detail that the official ones have. True some of those details have fallen by the wayside over the years, but it still feels like thought went into designing it and in some ways those details have changed form; true they've gone from having a little story on the back-cards to having no text about the character at all (I say text because we now have screen shots), but the show has a smaller core cast and is more able to give the characters attention, the package may not say that Rarity has a self-serving streak that she sometimes has trouble keeping in check, but we know she does because of the show.

3-My Little Pony Branding: Yes, I'm dead serious, but allow me to explain a bit; I was born in the early 90s right around when they stopped releasing Ponies here, there was also a video rental place I used to go to when I was 4 & 5 that had a lot of 80s shows which I would rent often, My Little Pony was not one of them. At the same time I heard people talking about it, and had a vague memory of watching what turned out to be a scene from Escape from Katrina but I would not be able to see any of it until I was able to rent the movie & pilot special when I was 8 and I wouldn't see the show itself until I was nearly 14, so for me My Little Pony had an air of mystery to it. Because of that it was exciting for me when G2 Ponies were released, true I eventually found that they were completely different from the ones people were talking about and I had other toys that were similar, but they were still My Little Pony toys and a way for me to experience the series myself (This wasn't the only time something like this would happen either; there's a series I like where the manga referenced things that happened in the anime quite a bit and the next year I found DVDs of what turned out to be a spin off with a slightly different premise, even though I eventually saw the series they had been referencing, that spin-off made some of the events in the manga make much more sense)
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: Galactica on February 27, 2017, 12:31:58 PM
If Hasbro made Breyers:

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.....  "The Claiming Of Sleeping Beauty" by Ann Rice...... *cough cough*  .....

You know, that is EXACTLY what I thought... :P
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: kasin on February 27, 2017, 01:06:45 PM
If Hasbro made Breyers:

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.....  "The Claiming Of Sleeping Beauty" by Ann Rice...... *cough cough*  .....

You know, that is EXACTLY what I thought... :P

Oh good! I was starting to feel a little awkward! Haha!
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Post by: LadyMoondancer on February 27, 2017, 01:33:40 PM
If Hasbro made Breyers:

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.....  "The Claiming Of Sleeping Beauty" by Ann Rice...... *cough cough*  .....

You know, that is EXACTLY what I thought... :P

Oh good! I was starting to feel a little awkward! Haha!

I thought it was funny.  :P
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: U2QueenBee on March 02, 2017, 03:25:40 PM
I'm in the 'I like both' camp. I grew up with G1s so brushable is definitely what I'm used to, and I always enjoyed brushing and styling their hair. A lot of 'girls toys' are kind of centred around grooming that way and while I never really got into traditional (human) dolls, I did like dressing up and styling my ponies.

That said I've got a couple of the molded hair ones from the GoH line and I like them a lot too. For action-figure kind of playing, it's great because you can get much different styles than you can with brushable hair and there's no risk of it getting tangled, cut or frizzy. I don't have the GoH Nightmare Moon (yet! I really want her) but it would be hard to recreate the glitteriness or the flow of her mane and tail in brushable hair, I think, for example.

I think there's room for both in MLP and I'd like to see them keep making both available in future, even if the molded stays as more of a rarity or restricted to certain lines.
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: DazzleKitty on March 02, 2017, 06:35:23 PM
I vastly prefer brushable hair. It's what made me love MLP in the first place.
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: Shaiyeh on March 03, 2017, 01:25:48 AM
Brushable, for me. I don't play with my ponies, so the hair getting tangled isn't an issue (and if it does get tangled, it's a super easy fix). I don't mind molded hair though, but I think it looks better on small ponies like Ponyville and Petites. (which I love, not so keen on blind bag g4s but I like the molded look on those as well)
But yes. I love the look of silky, shiny hair on my ponies. I love styling it, defrizzing it if needed, restoring factory curls... you name it. I'm a sucker for brushable hair xD
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: lovesbabysquirmy on March 04, 2017, 12:13:39 PM
I think Hasbro started doing blindbags because they saw how profitable it was for other companies .

Besides, didn't G1 have ceramic figures? And of course McDonalds ponies with half brushable, half molded hair . Plus the Ponyvilles and Tiny Tins.

yes but in G1 the marketing was ESPECIALLY focused on  the hair care.  I mean there are HOURS of grooming when you actually have horses.
Title: Re: Molded vs Brushable Hair?
Post by: Leave a Whisper on March 04, 2017, 01:48:16 PM
I think Hasbro started doing blindbags because they saw how profitable it was for other companies .

Besides, didn't G1 have ceramic figures? And of course McDonalds ponies with half brushable, half molded hair . Plus the Ponyvilles and Tiny Tins.

yes but in G1 the marketing was ESPECIALLY focused on  the hair care.  I mean there are HOURS of grooming when you actually have horses.

I know. I love grooming horses. Well, the nicer ones anywho.  :biggrin:
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