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Title: Secret wish is sticky and discolored?
Post by: True on October 04, 2016, 03:03:26 PM
So I collect any unusual bait I can, I like having a wide variety to work with. A long time ago I got a Secret wish in a lot of baits, I tossed her into my baits box and forgot about her.

Today Im sorting them out and I find secret wish on the very bottom of the bin. Shes turned orange, and her head more so then the rest of her, is also like kinda sticky? Im kinda disappointed :/ because sparkle ponies are hard to find baits for and she was the only one I had and now she's kinda gross.

Any ideas what happened? Nothing was spilled into the box, its kept in a storage bin, inside a cabinet, and she was the only pony that seemed affected by this, beside one others hair being all gross because it was touching the glitter pony. I wonder if I could wash her, but I would still worry that if I ever customized her then she would get sticky and gross again down the road. :/
Title: Re: Secret wish is sticky and discolored?
Post by: Ponyfan on October 04, 2016, 03:08:11 PM
Unfortunately the Divine Shine ponies break down really easy. I have one MIB that her head has lost all the glitter and turned a different color.  What's making Secret Wish sticky is the plasticizer leaking from her. It's sad that they are breaking down so soon when the G1 Sparkle ponies aren't.


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Title: Re: Secret wish is sticky and discolored?
Post by: True on October 04, 2016, 03:15:47 PM
Aw man :c

I guess there's not really any point looking for more G3 glitter baits then.. If that's even a possibility that it will happen at some point, id hate to make a custom for someone and then have it break down over time. :/ Really a shame cause they're so pretty u.u
Title: Re: Secret wish is sticky and discolored?
Post by: Ponyfan on October 04, 2016, 03:31:24 PM
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Here's a pic of my two MIB Divine Shines. They are really pretty. I wish they didn't have the break down problem.


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Title: Re: Secret wish is sticky and discolored?
Post by: Mainsail on October 04, 2016, 07:21:24 PM
I, too, have a discolored Secret Wish. I picked her up at my local flea market a few years back. My original Secret Wish is still her correct color, I believe.

Here's my discolored one. I think she's actually pretty with this orange-y color :P

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Title: Re: Secret wish is sticky and discolored?
Post by: Barnacle_lady on October 04, 2016, 09:27:40 PM
Well there are g3 fakies with glitter but I am not sure if they have the same problem.
Title: Re: Secret wish is sticky and discolored?
Post by: Mainsail on October 05, 2016, 01:20:31 AM
It seems that G2 and G3 ponies have the sticky problem, because my G2 Sunsparkle became sticky, unfortunately. :(

I have a G3 sparkle fakie and I'm trying to remember if she had that problem or not. :blink: She's somewhere in a box I think so I'll have to find her.
Title: Re: Secret wish is sticky and discolored?
Post by: True on October 05, 2016, 03:58:17 AM
Yeah if it was ONLY a discoloring problem then I wouldn't mind, Mine is actually still pretty despite now being orange lol, shes very glittery and all.. Its the stickiness that's the real deal breaker.
Title: Re: Secret wish is sticky and discolored?
Post by: QueenStarglow on October 05, 2016, 06:24:27 AM
The plasticizer leak can be washed off with de-greasing dish soap. Just give her a good scrub.

This line is my favorite G3 line and it has been HEARTBREAKING to watch my set slowly die. I bought them in stores and they have lost perhaps 80% of their glitter. There's absolutely nothing to be done to prevent it. Just luck of the draw.
Title: Re: Secret wish is sticky and discolored?
Post by: Matcha on October 05, 2016, 07:29:06 AM
I used to have Secret Wish as well, she discolored too and her glitter disappeared. I wonder where the glitter went...
Title: Re: Secret wish is sticky and discolored?
Post by: pinkkittywinks on October 05, 2016, 11:56:26 AM
My friend StrawberryMeadow calls them the "Divine Slime" ponies!

Love pkw xxx
Title: Re: Secret wish is sticky and discolored?
Post by: FantasticFirefly on October 05, 2016, 02:44:12 PM
If you buy any nice ones, always keep them very cool! Nowhere that ever gets warm.
they are so delicate when it comes to breaking down (getting slimy, discolouring). :(
Title: Re: Secret wish is sticky and discolored?
Post by: True on October 05, 2016, 05:18:06 PM
I just won't be buying any from now on. :/ my only interest in them is as custom Bait, and If there is even a slight possibility that they could get sticky down the road, then it's not worth the risk for me.

I dont even know what to do with the one I have now, I feel bad throwing a pony away xD but shes very baity (no hair) lol Maybe I could experiment with her or something
Title: Re: Secret wish is sticky and discolored?
Post by: Crystal-Sushi on October 05, 2016, 06:37:32 PM
In regards to the two clear/glittery G2s, at least, I've bought them when they were advertised as horrendously sticky, and sure, they were sticky when they arrived, but after a day or two it just went away and the plastic entered the rock solid stage... Not ideal but at least they don't attract dust anymore. Maybe the climate where I live agrees with them? I'm totally going to find a Divine Shine pony now to test that theory...
Title: Re: Secret wish is sticky and discolored?
Post by: Taffeta on October 06, 2016, 03:45:45 AM
I think I only have one of these left now. My sister may have one too, I'm not sure, but her ponies are away. I didn't know about the discolouration issue until about last year when people on here were talking about it and when I knew that I got my G3 down and extracted my pony - which I'm pretty sure is also Secret Wish - and sat her on my desk so she couldn't stickify or hurt any of the other G3 ponies.

She's still there and as yet no discolouration, though she was a little sticky when I got her out, she's fine at the moment. It made me wonder 2 things.

#1 whether exposure to air actually helps to delay the sticky or not
#2 whether the cooler British climate has anything to do with her not breaking down as fast as some others.

In which case, there may be something in working out how to postpone this as long as possible. From what FantasticFirefly said, it sounds like temp is a factor.

Of course if it's random pot luck, that's another matter, but it might be interesting to work out if there is a pattern with the speed of breakdown vs temperature and storage. When I got my Secret Wish out she had no sign of discolouration or glitter loss and she still doesn't, but the fact she was a little sticky does make me wonder.

My Queen Sunsparkle is also sticky, but also hasn't discoloured.

None of my G1 sparkle ponies have any issues whatsoever. Not that I'm sure they ever get this issue, but I know they can discolour.
Title: Re: Secret wish is sticky and discolored?
Post by: aquamarinemolly on October 06, 2016, 08:01:45 AM
Thanks for sharing this info, Glitterbelle is on my wish list :(
Title: Re: Secret wish is sticky and discolored?
Post by: FantasticFirefly on October 06, 2016, 08:05:39 AM
I think I only have one of these left now. My sister may have one too, I'm not sure, but her ponies are away. I didn't know about the discolouration issue until about last year when people on here were talking about it and when I knew that I got my G3 down and extracted my pony - which I'm pretty sure is also Secret Wish - and sat her on my desk so she couldn't stickify or hurt any of the other G3 ponies.

She's still there and as yet no discolouration, though she was a little sticky when I got her out, she's fine at the moment. It made me wonder 2 things.

#1 whether exposure to air actually helps to delay the sticky or not
#2 whether the cooler British climate has anything to do with her not breaking down as fast as some others.

In which case, there may be something in working out how to postpone this as long as possible. From what FantasticFirefly said, it sounds like temp is a factor.

Of course if it's random pot luck, that's another matter, but it might be interesting to work out if there is a pattern with the speed of breakdown vs temperature and storage. When I got my Secret Wish out she had no sign of discolouration or glitter loss and she still doesn't, but the fact she was a little sticky does make me wonder.

My Queen Sunsparkle is also sticky, but also hasn't discoloured.

None of my G1 sparkle ponies have any issues whatsoever. Not that I'm sure they ever get this issue, but I know they can discolour.

If she's sticky, the process has started. How hot can your storage area get at it's peak? I keep recommending hygrometers (one that displays both temp and RH) to collectors, they are excellent little tools to monitor conditions. :)

UV, and HEAT will cause plastics to degrade. These are delicate so it happens much faster is all. Some things like the divine shine become the canary in the coal mine and can serve as a warning conditions need to change before other pieces follow. :)
Heat is a HUGE enemy. Our climate is cooler too and I managed to find a really pretty Secret Wish 3 years ago that was stored in someone's basement since she was bought new.
Title: Re: Secret wish is sticky and discolored?
Post by: True on October 09, 2016, 11:21:19 PM
That's just another reason why I wonder how mine got so bad? I remember getting her in a bait lot, and she was PINK when I got her. I put her in the bait bin with all the others and forgot about her. My baits are all stored in my room/basement, inside one of those plastic drawer bins? (dunno what to actually call them xD) and THAT bin unit is inside a metal cabinet, so it's dark and cool all year round. Its just baffling lol.

I have had her sitting on my desk since I re-discovered her, and she's definitely not "slimy" sticky like she was when I found her, but she does feel grimy, like maybe she needs a bath, I haven't washed her or done anything at all with her besides pull her out. so maybe a bath WOULD make her feel normal, for a bit, but I guess I'm kinda just curious to find out what happens to her if she sits out for a while.

Do you think a FBR would get spoiled down the road for a pony like this?
Title: Re: Secret wish is sticky and discolored?
Post by: Taxel on October 10, 2016, 12:54:44 AM
The process probably started before you even got her, or that line is just so bad it doesn't matter what conditions are (and could be better/worse in different batches).

As far as airing out goes, I don't know what makes it help but it does work! My grandma was looking through her stored dolls (stored in a garage out in the Mojave Desert - AKA the place where I got into a 120 degree car once) and noticed one was sticky. Probably from plasticizer leak but she had no way to know that. She gave the poor thing a quick wash and leaves her out of the boxes now. The stickiness went away and hasn't returned so far.

I think once plasticizer leak starts you're out of luck with customs. Unless you want to wait years for the process to finish and the pony to turn rock hard. I don't know how well those ponies accept paint and sealant though. I imagine rehairing would be a huge pain, though I don't know for sure :P
Title: Re: Secret wish is sticky and discolored?
Post by: Cadence on October 22, 2016, 11:50:02 PM
Out of curiosity, is it even safe to handle them once the plasticizers start to break down? (ie. exposure to toxins) And would using a coat of nail polish/varnish/acrylic polymer medium gloss etc. prevent this breakdown on divine shines that are still okay?
Title: Re: Secret wish is sticky and discolored?
Post by: Taxel on October 23, 2016, 12:51:29 AM
I would call plasticizer leaking ponies dangerous, to a degree. I'd never allow a child or animal near them. But I don't think mild touching (enough to clean them off etc) would be harmful to an adult. Just gotta use common sense - wash hands after, don't lick em, etc.

I would absolutely NOT introduce any more chemicals to the mix, ever. I'm pretty sure nail polish isn't good for ponies anyways. This is a process you can't really avoid. You either have to throw away the toy or whatever (this isn't a pony problem; its a soft plastic problem), find someone else who'll take it, or wait it out.

You can apply baby powder to help soak it up. I have a doll leaking plasticizer and I apply baby powder every so often. I washed her with Dawn, did a thick baby powder coat, washed it off, and now just keep her coated decently inside and out until it stops. It could take years.
Title: Re: Secret wish is sticky and discolored?
Post by: Cadence on October 23, 2016, 06:27:58 AM
Great tips, thanks for sharing, Taxel! I'd definitely do that with gloves just to be safe!!
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