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Title: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: WingsOfMasquerade on June 29, 2016, 03:38:49 PM
What counts as a pony?
MLP has always had non-pony characters, like witches, ghosts, and even toys like Cutiesaurus & Creamscicle the dinosaur & giraffe. The pony animal friends are well liked! If they'd of made the Moochik or Danny or something, they'd of probably done as ok as Megan dolls.

G4 of course has Gilda & Cranky Doodle Donky (who's toy is super cute as a blindbag) and many others too. Having a big and cool cast of characters and extras and villains both pony & non is good. Having merch of diverse characters is cool too but.....

(SDCC Blog posting pictures of said toy--it's a Discord in a chair figure)

So I have been hearing this year that the fair pony is Discord?
Do you think he counts as a pony just because he is in the MLP show?
SHOULD he count?
Do people not consider their G1 collection to be "Complete" unless is has Megan & Molly in it as well as all the UK princess dragons & all bushwoolies?

But then, the alternative to getting him as the fair item was (clearly) a common toy dressed in an outfit with a fancy box.
Some people liked it. Others didn't.
Also with the equestria girl of ManeIac, "the doll was better than the pony" got brought up. (Whether or not it was given more attention it was all opinions that arose because the doll existed, it didn't matter how good it was or wasn't: it was being used "in place of" an actual pony--unless the EQGs are considered as ponies too.)

I don't know what to think of the possibility of the fair pony not being a pony at all.
I mean, I don't hate Discord, I just don't find him attractive to collect. I know loads of people really love him, and that they will like the item but I can't help feeling..........not...pony-appreciated that it's him? Unless the fair is getting a surprise item that IS an actual pony character and he really IS JUST for the SDCC? They've had 2 items in the past (Doll & ManeIac) so it could happen. But I wanted to know what everyone thinks.
Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: Galactica on June 29, 2016, 03:45:11 PM
The figure itself was meh.

What ticks me off more than the fact that it is Discord is that he is NOT EXCLUSIVE.  Hasbro is just re-packaging the SAME EXACT DISCORD FIGURE that is scheduled to release at ToysRus for 1/2 the price.

The only thing you get that is unique, is the flashing stand? Oh wait, no, we already had that with the bedazzled DJ Pony. 

Okay so the only thing special or unique you get in this set- is the privilege of paying $25 MOAR for some (admittedly pretty cool) packaging.

Truly, I am shocked.

I suppose it is possible that the Fluttershy figure is unique, but I will bet you dollars to doughnuts that is not a unique figure either, and will also be released in some form in the Guardians of Harmony collection this fall.

SO MUCH FAIL HASBRO.
Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: aintnobuffalo on June 29, 2016, 03:58:04 PM
I dont think I would have minded so much it if it was a unique Discord, but this is just unique packaging with different eyes than the so much cheaper Guardians of Harmony version. I am very upset that I bought something I expected to be exclusive or unique, when I really just paid for fancy packaging.
Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on June 29, 2016, 04:00:18 PM
I'll say the same thing I said on facebook: Nope.

I think what I'm learning with more and more of the FIM special editions; How much of a girl I actually am. I like pretty ponies, I'm not interested in discord, I mean I get that this is what is popular now but I really miss beautiful pretty ponies with brushable hair. Sad :(

 It's a bit like ponies can't be beautiful or cute anymore. The whole girly side is being removed in favor of...not sure what really. Why Isn't it okay for it to be girly and pretty and still be acceptable to everyone. The fluttershy just sorta looks meh in this set, like she's added just so it's still 'pony'. I don't know, it just makes me sad. I love MLP and want to like it but it just doesn't do anything for me.
Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: scarletjul on June 29, 2016, 06:20:25 PM
Discord isn't a pony, he's a "friend" of the ponies (and, depending on the episode, he's not always the best of friends.)  :P

Personally, I don't mind them including something that isn't specifically a pony.  If they'd included oh, let's say, G4 Megan as an Equestria Girl, that might've worked.  My problem is the problem others have had.  Discord isn't exclusive.  His packaging is.  :(. That isn't very fair to all if the SDCC collectors who are putting in so much time and money to get him.  It makes it seem as if Hasbro really doesn't care about the collector market.

Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: lovesbabysquirmy on June 29, 2016, 09:15:13 PM
Most definitely NOT a pony! 
Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: Wardah on June 29, 2016, 09:16:51 PM
I suppose it is possible that the Fluttershy figure is unique, but I will bet you dollars to doughnuts that is not a unique figure either, and will also be released in some form in the Guardians of Harmony collection this fall.

SO MUCH FAIL HASBRO.

And honestly if she doesn't get a release I will be really upset. You don't make a main character a hard to obtain exclusive.
Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: MoondancerMilkyWay on June 29, 2016, 09:37:53 PM
Discord is a dragonequs or some such nonsense. He is not a pony.
Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: sd_dreamcrystal on June 29, 2016, 09:45:00 PM
He's not a pony but he's supposed to have pony in him.

Quote from: show
He has the head of a pony, and a body made up of all sorts of things.

well technically:
Arm of a lion
Arm of a gryphon
Body of an avian
Foot of an equine
Foot of a dragon
Tail of a dragon (maybe)
Neck of an equine
Head of a I-don't-know-what but it doesn't look equine to me
One antler
One horn
One bird wing
One bat wing

Maybe his head is actually a mule or donkey.. but I don't think so..

Anyway, there are mixed feelings about his one as per-usual.. you got a mass of people who don't like the figure here, then you have the small % of people here who do like it.. add to that all the collectors on other sites and bronies.. then it possibly balances out...
Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: Lore-Lei on June 29, 2016, 10:00:14 PM
More like 'Fair NOT exclusive NOT pony'. The only thing exclusive about the whole thing is... the packaging?

SDCC Fair Exclusive Box.

EDIT: Okay, maybe that throne might be something special, but again, SDCC Fair Exclusive Furniture? Still doesn't ring quite right for me.
Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: Violet CLM on June 29, 2016, 10:03:46 PM
Maybe he is a pony toy but not a toy pony
Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: Skylar on June 29, 2016, 10:13:04 PM
Totally Fugly for a fair exclusive. But you think I would be getting used to that by now.
Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: lostpony on June 30, 2016, 12:34:41 AM
If the siren mermaids can be drawn as ponies, seems maybe Discord can be too....a quick search turned up this fan video of a "baby discord" that looks a little bit pony:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl33BHFbSMw

Eh...more like Spike the dog.  I'll buy that Q can be a dog.  Even I can't call him a pony, and I stretch the definition quite a bit...

Instead, I propose exclusive "Urban Applejack" with mohawk haircut, casually-worn denim jacket and animal-print miniskirt:
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 (http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/alostpony/media/20160630_001110_zpsj7ctc5pd.jpg.html)

I just threw her together.  She'll need an earring, a cigarette and maybe heels to be the Fair Exclusive.


Edited to add:
I just saw what we're talking about and Dang that's an ugly pair of figures.  My Urban Applejack is waaay cooler.  He does have one hoof though so he does have a "toehold" on being pony...
Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: Taxel on June 30, 2016, 12:49:11 AM
No way, Discord is absolutely not a pony. A friend, like the non-pony G1s, is a good category for him I think.

Its kind of amazing that the SDCC exclusive isn't even trying to be a pony this year. Fluttershy looks like she was haphazardly thrown on so they could deny claims that the ""exclusive"" isn't a pony. She doesn't fit with him at all, hard plastic figure more like Funko vs weird jointed pony more like a normal MLP. And they're not looking at one another, the same object, or even in the same direction.

Nothing about this not-at-all exclusive shows any effort or even planning.
Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: Skeen on June 30, 2016, 06:54:10 AM
Discord is not a pony.

And I thought his head was a goat?
Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: Ariana on June 30, 2016, 08:09:47 AM
It's so sad! I think a Guardians of Harmony figure could have worked for an exclusive, but it truly had to be an EXCLUSIVE!!! If they made a Tirek or Sombra figure that would have been 100% exclusive to the fair, that would have been great and made us all happy! :enraged:
Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: Wardah on June 30, 2016, 09:19:13 AM
It's so sad! I think a Guardians of Harmony figure could have worked for an exclusive, but it truly had to be an EXCLUSIVE!!! If they made a Tirek or Sombra figure that would have been 100% exclusive to the fair, that would have been great and made us all happy! :enraged:

Honestly even the concept of a Discord figure for the exclusive isn't even bad. It's just that he isn't an exclusive. Tho it would kinda suck if it turns out the regular release was canceled in the US.
Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: MsMedley on June 30, 2016, 09:28:38 AM
If the siren mermaids can be drawn as ponies, seems maybe Discord can be too....a quick search turned up this fan video of a "baby discord" that looks a little bit pony:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl33BHFbSMw

Eh...more like Spike the dog.  I'll buy that Q can be a dog.  Even I can't call him a pony, and I stretch the definition quite a bit...

Instead, I propose exclusive "Urban Applejack" with mohawk haircut, casually-worn denim jacket and animal-print miniskirt:
visitors can't see pics , please register or login
 (http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/alostpony/media/20160630_001110_zpsj7ctc5pd.jpg.html)

I just threw her together.  She'll need an earring, a cigarette and maybe heels to be the Fair Exclusive.

:haha: I'd buy it! But only if she came in a cool box!
Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: SpaceButtPonies on June 30, 2016, 09:38:24 AM
Discord is not a pony.

And I thought his head was a goat?
They say it's a pony head in episode 1 in season 2. Though I agree, it does look like a goat lol
Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 30, 2016, 10:47:20 AM
No, he's not a pony. He looks like he's  based off an Asian dragon.
Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: LadyMoondancer on June 30, 2016, 10:54:54 AM
To me his head looks like it's based off a realistic horse, mule, or donkey.  (But not totally realistic since he has fangs and eyebrows, lol.)
Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: Purpleglasses on June 30, 2016, 11:02:09 AM
Hmmm, in all honesty the Gaurdians of Harmony figures are my favorite ones from G4, the rest are so bland and static.

I get people being upset that it's the same Discord with different eyes, but will the included Fluttershy be released elsewhere, or just at comic con?

In any case I have never been to comic con and don't like not being able to pay the price exclusives go for second hand, so I'm actually kind of pleased he looks so much like a figure I like and will be able to get a hold of later. If I like him with open eyes, well, I know how acetone and paint work.
Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: Koudoawaia on June 30, 2016, 11:51:31 AM
Only Discord`s head is pony and at that, doesn't look ponyish to me. In Return of Harmony part 1, it's mentioned that he has the head of a pony.
Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: Gypsydancer on June 30, 2016, 12:23:46 PM
Not happy at all.  :stressed: That is not a pony and I don't consider it exclusive if it's at the Comic Con as well, much less to be released later down the line.

What happened to the hand painted TAF beauties we used to get? Did that die when FiM happened?
Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: Galactica on June 30, 2016, 12:43:35 PM
Hmmm, in all honesty the Gaurdians of Harmony figures are my favorite ones from G4, the rest are so bland and static.

I get people being upset that it's the same Discord with different eyes, but will the included Fluttershy be released elsewhere, or just at comic con?

In any case I have never been to comic con and don't like not being able to pay the price exclusives go for second hand, so I'm actually kind of pleased he looks so much like a figure I like and will be able to get a hold of later. If I like him with open eyes, well, I know how acetone and paint work.

It is not hard to get the exclusives in the Hasbrotoyshop, or it hasn't been in the last few years. Even Muffin pony lingered a little while before selling out.

I'm sure there will be TONS of this figure in the shop after this year's SDCC...
Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: lovesbabysquirmy on July 01, 2016, 08:37:17 AM
My BIGGEST pet peeve about the MLP Fair Exclusive is that it ISN'T.  We have to share with SDCC. It did not used to be like this, we really DID have an Exclusive!  and it was a BRUSHABLE PONY, imagine that!

and when the figure is released on STORE SHELVES with a minor paint difference?  AUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGH
Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: Radiance on July 01, 2016, 09:12:11 AM
Not a pony. And I wish Fair exclusive ponies would go back to the beautiful art pony brushables they once were. And, you know, actually BE exclusive.
Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: Wardah on July 01, 2016, 10:11:11 AM
and when the figure is released on STORE SHELVES with a minor paint difference?  AUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGH

This. Like I get that the Fair has to share with SDCC since the organizers used to get stuck with a lot of excess ponies but it isn't even exclusive to SDCC. If there wasn't the almost same figure on Amazon right now while there would be some detractors because it is Discord and not everyone likes him, many would be happy about it and saying about how cool it is that we are getting him.
Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: Lore-Lei on July 01, 2016, 11:07:03 AM
Not a pony. And I wish Fair exclusive ponies would go back to the beautiful art pony brushables they once were. And, you know, actually BE exclusive.
Agreed wholeheartedly.
Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: SpaceButtPonies on July 01, 2016, 12:33:14 PM
Doesn't the fair releases get a different sticker on the box compared SDCC?
Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: Skeen on July 01, 2016, 12:56:12 PM
The concept itself is a cool idea and the sculpt is great.  If this was revealed as the exclusive and there was no other way to obtain it, like with previous exclusives, that would be awesome, because it does look like they put some effort into packaging it nicely.  But knowing you can pick up the exact same thing for half the price in a different box makes it no longer exclusive, and no longer special, and certainly no longer worth $50. 

I feel bad for the Fair staff.  It's not like they have any control over this but it sounds like a ton of attendees are going to be pissed off from the second they get there. 
Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: STLGusty on July 01, 2016, 01:29:02 PM
While this isn't exactly ideal for me, I'm honestly just happy to have the "exclusive"... Not necessarily for so much of what characters it encompasses, but moreso as a specific souvenir.  I've gotten the exclusive from each fair that I've been to as a momento of my time there and the people I got to hang out with.  I can understand it to be frustrating but maybe try to change perspective a bit... Or next time maybe just don't pre buy the exclusive? ;). We will have a great time regardless of who the exclusive is!  I'll be in Chicago this time next week Whoo hoo!!
Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: ponyqueen on July 01, 2016, 01:36:38 PM
 >_<
Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: Sky_Rocket on July 03, 2016, 01:08:44 PM
No - not a pony.

Does Hasbro know that other collectors outside of Bronies have LOTS of money to spend on collectable exclusives?  Do they know what we, the collectors want?  And if the answer is yes to these questions, why are they ignoring us?  Why is our money not good enough? 

I know little of the G4 line (don't watch or read comics) - but would you say this figure is geared towards the Bronies, or towards the younger crowd?  I suspect it's the Bronies, and if that's the case - Why are non-Brony collectors being ignored??  (A jointed flutter shy who's 1/3 the size of the main figure - which will be release shortly jointed doesn't count - we can go to our stores and buy a similar Flutter Shy for 1/10th the price)  Where is Hasbro getting the idea that we, the collectors want a Discord?!?! 

Is our buying power not enough?  Do we not spend enough on ponies for you to notice us?  Are we supposed to be happy with everything that's released in stores?  Is that Hasbro's why of saying collectable figures aren't meant for the non Brony collector??  "well, you get all that other stuff, let the Bronies have this....." Or are they thinking that Bronies are the only buyers at Comic Con?

The easy solution is to not buy this 'exclusive', but I think we run into the issue of buying power.  People will buy this pony b/c it's 'collectable' and because it's 'pony' or 'resell!' - hence, lots of buying power.  They're not seeing another collectable option to buy - and we (us under represented collectors) need another option.  There was a time when Hasbro released an exclusive and I moved heaven and earth to get them in person*, and I wasn't alone in the quest to find them.  There was a post on here a few weeks about Christmas Ornaments that we the collectors crashed sold them out before they were even available.


It upsets me a lot that we're such a huge market and we're being overlooked. Go on eBay for ponies made before 1990, and look at the ending auctions, and sort by sold and highest prices.  Even though the Bronies could say the same thing (they'd be overlooked) - but then why not two exclusives? 


Pony Fair promoters - I feel for you.  It's a shame that you wouldn't be able to do your own exclusives like Trolly and Frisco in the future.  I believe there would be a MUCH higher demand for something made by the fair promoters than what's Hasbro is currently providing   The time to create and mass produce an exclusive would be an incredible undertaking with the current fair attendance.


(rant here - Hasbro, it cost 25¢ to make one G3 pony (figures from the fair a few years ago in Rhode Island), how hard is it to design a pony, make the pony, put it in a plastic bag, plain white box, ship the pony and sell it?!?!? You did it for other events (Licensing shows, charity balls, give aways, 'breast cancer pony') WHY NOT THE FAIR!?!?!?!? You have a willing audience with lots of money to spend!! Where's the risk!?!?!? We don't need/want fancy packing - we want non mass produced ponies!!!!!)


* Attended three Comic Cons, pony fairs, pony project in NY, flew to the UK to for G3 Winter Song, and numerous trips to the US to get the Target exclusives (I love to travel and planned some trips around buying ponies)
Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: Lore-Lei on July 03, 2016, 01:23:02 PM
Does Hasbro know that other collectors outside of Bronies have LOTS of money to spend on collectable exclusives?
Did you know that most of the brony fandom cannot afford an overpriced merch like that, and the small percent that has the money to buy a lot of stuff would rather spend on fanmade stuff or commissions?

Just a couple days ago a friend of mine posted her latest work, a life-sized Twilight plushie that she was to sell at Bronycon... if someone wouldn't have bought it before she could've even gone there (they still agreed that she can showcase it on the con though). Note that one of these can cost anywhere from 800 to 1500$-s.

I'm not surprised Hasbro wants a piece of that kind of cake either, however specific and tiny that may be. Too bad they don't realize their products don't really hit the mark of many.
Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: Sunset on July 03, 2016, 05:32:47 PM
Sometimes I suspect that Hasbro comes from the perspective that collectors in general will buy what ever they make as an *exclusive* because as collectors we *collect*.  if there are some complaints it's because there are always some unhappy people. 

And there's probably at least some truth in it.
Wish it weren't so but there you are.
Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: lostpony on July 03, 2016, 07:13:54 PM
Hasbro:   BUY IT AND REJOICE
Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: Vertefae on July 04, 2016, 04:51:27 AM
I think that's the biggest issue. We just buy it. Even if we're unhappy. Many collecters act like we should be grateful for whatever Hasbro cares to send us. Because if we complain or voice concerns we might not get anything. Personally, I think a tactful negative response would be in order. To me, I'd rather have nothing than this.
Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on July 04, 2016, 05:10:18 AM
I think that's the biggest issue. We just buy it. Even if we're unhappy. Many collecters act like we should be grateful for whatever Hasbro cares to send us. Because if we complain or voice concerns we might not get anything. Personally, I think a tactful negative response would be in order. To me, I'd rather have nothing than this.

Well then you have those people that as soon as you do give your honest opinion they scold/troll you. Like saying it's not for you it's for children or your part of the fandom isn't big enough it's for bronies and children.

I think people get tired of having to defend they're opinions from the haters and they're voice gets squashed and silenced because someone thinks we shouldn't have to right to voice our opinions.

And as you explained some people also think that by voicing our opinions Hasbro will just stop giving us exclusives. My thing is if I've gotta choose between no exclusive and a thing I don't like sitting around my house...I choose no exclusive.
Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: Al-1701 on July 04, 2016, 06:10:25 AM
The exclusives are obviously not for children, considering their price and availability.  They're meant to be a collector's items.  However it does seem like they think collectors are bronies.  This years is clearly meant to be for bronies like last year's.  Though, I think the fair will have a marked decrease in bronies because it's the same weekend as Bronycon.

Between that the dissatisfaction among collectors, there will probably be a lot of these things for sale online by this time next week.
Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: Wardah on July 04, 2016, 08:26:08 AM
You know at first I was upset because I thought it was overpriced but after finding out how much the non exclusive version was I'm just kinda sad it isn't anything new. However if it goes on sale at HTS it might end up being a better bargain then buying the regular one.

The exclusives are obviously not for children, considering their price and availability.  They're meant to be a collector's items.  However it does seem like they think collectors are bronies.  This years is clearly meant to be for bronies like last year's.  Though, I think the fair will have a marked decrease in bronies because it's the same weekend as Bronycon.

Between that the dissatisfaction among collectors, there will probably be a lot of these things for sale online by this time next week.

As for who it appeals to I think it is supposed to appeal to FIM fans (you know since that is what the current show is) but Bronies are only a subset of FIM fans. There are plenty of collectors who are also FIM fans. The collectors who are like "ugh geefor" are not the only voice of the collecting community.
Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: Carrehz on July 04, 2016, 09:19:26 AM
I don't have a problem with Discord being the SDCC exclusive personally - I figured it'd happen eventually - I mean, I wouldn't ever want him, but for those that *do* like him it's cool. My problem is the fact that he's NOT an exclusive.. fancy packaging and slightly different eye paint aren't worth it imo. I know the Fluttershy figure is exclusive now, but how long will that last? No way are they going to keep a member of the main 6 off store shelves for long.
Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: lostpony on July 04, 2016, 12:00:36 PM
John Delancie (sp?) um, Q often has things to say about the show etc; but I am never up on direct info.  Have any Hasbro people made any sort of comment about this for us to go on?

In other matters, I am tired of people saying adult FiM fan=brony.  Nooooo......no labels but self-assigned ones please.  I don't like being lumped in with any group unless I do it myself.

It seems to me that Hasbro is really big and holds a certain chunk of the toy market...it seems like a lot of what they are doing doesn't make a lot of sense from one perspective or another.  But, they are out to make a buck...if the exclusive is always purchased then they can put out what they want...it's about profit, no?  I don't think any amount of complaining is going to impact Hasbro's decisions unless it is in the form of drastically falling sales numbers.

Just my rather ignorant and general thoughts on the issue.  If anypony has any information, opinions, or further uninformed speculation (like mine) I'd like to read them.
Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: josiekat on July 05, 2016, 07:43:09 AM
He is not a pony. Which is fine. I suppose.....for some......

But I want my exclusive to be an actual pony with brushable hair.

I really had liked the idea that someone had of a simple G1 as a styling G4. That would have been so amazing. I also wish they would go back to charging $35 for the pony. I don't want to see hasbro make the box light up in order to justifying charging $50.

Sadly, I don't see this trend to end any time soon. Kind of makes me really wish that the FiM popularity would die off some.
Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as \"pony\"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: Galactica on July 05, 2016, 09:43:51 AM
You know at first I was upset because I thought it was overpriced but after finding out how much the non exclusive version was I'm just kinda sad it isn't anything new. However if it goes on sale at HTS it might end up being a better bargain then buying the regular one.

The exclusives are obviously not for children, considering their price and availability.  They're meant to be a collector's items.  However it does seem like they think collectors are bronies.  This years is clearly meant to be for bronies like last year's.  Though, I think the fair will have a marked decrease in bronies because it's the same weekend as Bronycon.

Between that the dissatisfaction among collectors, there will probably be a lot of these things for sale online by this time next week.

As for who it appeals to I think it is supposed to appeal to FIM fans (you know since that is what the current show is) but Bronies are only a subset of FIM fans. There are plenty of collectors who are also FIM fans. The collectors who are like "ugh geefor" are not the only voice of the collecting community.

I haven't seen HTS put their SDCC "exclusives" for sale before- I think they still have the Jem exclusive in stock from last year.
I think the most you can hope for is a free shipping promotion- which of course all the major retailers do anyway.

Post Merge: July 05, 2016, 09:49:49 AM

I think that's the biggest issue. We just buy it. Even if we're unhappy. Many collecters act like we should be grateful for whatever Hasbro cares to send us. Because if we complain or voice concerns we might not get anything. Personally, I think a tactful negative response would be in order. To me, I'd rather have nothing than this.

Agreed- I think the best way to send a message is to not buy this exclusive.  I actually have liked past exclusives enough to buy them from the shop or from Fair attendees- (except DJ was a stretch) - and yes, the simple fact that they were "exclusives" really helped.  THIS time, I will have no problem passing.

I'll get the one that is going to see a wide release, when it goes on sale.

Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: Vertefae on July 05, 2016, 11:41:52 AM
I feel bad for those that pay for the exclusive sight unseen with their fair ticket. I wonder if how bad this one is, it will slow those sales next year?
Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: Wardah on July 12, 2016, 09:54:47 AM
Speaking of standard Discord his figure is on sale on Amazon for around $23. Have any listings for him popped up in any store's systems yet? If not maybe he is an Amazon exclusive in the US?
Title: Re: Is Discord a Pony? What counts as "pony"? Fair Exclusive NOT a Pony?
Post by: FarDreamer on July 13, 2016, 12:56:46 PM
Pony, pronounced:  [poh-nee]
noun, plural ponies.
1.
a small horse of any of several breeds, usually not higher at the shoulder than 14½ hands (58 in./146 cm).
2.
a horse of any small type or breed

Hasbro desperately seems to need a reminder.
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