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Title: Any first hand experience fixing tail rust?
Post by: Emerald on December 08, 2015, 11:27:59 AM
My Wigwam has BRIGHT ORANGE rust stains on a large portion of his tail. I've already removed the tail and cleaned him out. The washer has been thrown out and I washed the tail in Dawn and conditioned it. I need to decide on a plan of attack for the rust now.

I have read multiple websites and know there are a ton of different methods that can be used to get rid of the rust. Rit rust remover, whitening tooth paste, CLR...SO MANY CHOICES!

I was wondering what your personal favorite and tried and true methods were? Thanks!
Title: Re: Any first hand experience fixing tail rust?
Post by: NigheanRuadh on December 08, 2015, 11:40:48 AM
The only one I've used is whitening toothpaste, since it's what I had on had.  Sometimes it takes more than one application, but it's worked well for me.
Title: Re: Any first hand experience fixing tail rust?
Post by: Mirnyj on December 08, 2015, 12:18:49 PM
Toothpaste works wonders. Remember to thorougly condition the tail afterwards tho.
Title: Re: Any first hand experience fixing tail rust?
Post by: Emerald on December 08, 2015, 01:41:56 PM
I'm honestly surprised to hear toothpaste twice. For some reason my mind is like "No way will that work." I'll try to grab some this weekend, since I only have gel.
Title: Re: Any first hand experience fixing tail rust?
Post by: Strawberry Swirl on December 08, 2015, 02:06:24 PM
My personal method:

Open pony, scrub insides with toothpaste, rinse,
leave to dry, reattach head. :good:
Title: Re: Any first hand experience fixing tail rust?
Post by: NoPonySpecial on December 08, 2015, 03:04:30 PM
Another toothpaste vote. Works like a dream.
Title: Re: Any first hand experience fixing tail rust?
Post by: Baby Sugarberry on December 08, 2015, 03:35:04 PM
I also use the toothpaste - make sure to get one that's white and actually paste, not the more common blue gel stuff.
Title: Re: Any first hand experience fixing tail rust?
Post by: Emerald on December 08, 2015, 03:36:30 PM
Any brand recommendations?
Title: Re: Any first hand experience fixing tail rust?
Post by: Baby Sugarberry on December 08, 2015, 03:44:30 PM
Haven't heard of there being much in the way of variation between brands, they all seem to work just fine.  Grab whatever's cheapest. If I had to wager a guess, it's mostly the micro-abrasive particles in toothpaste doing the work, rather than the chemicals.
Title: Re: Any first hand experience fixing tail rust?
Post by: NigheanRuadh on December 08, 2015, 03:47:24 PM
I think what we have is something with baking soda and peroxide in it.  Seems to be pretty good.  :good:
Title: Re: Any first hand experience fixing tail rust?
Post by: Emerald on December 08, 2015, 03:53:04 PM
I'll check out the arm & hammer ones etc. then. I hope it works on my poor dude! He's so pretty but his poor tail.
Title: Re: Any first hand experience fixing tail rust?
Post by: ghouldilocks on December 08, 2015, 04:06:44 PM
Putting whitening toothpaste on my list of things to add to my pony spa kit, lol. I have some for myself, but it has white and blue in it, so I need to get one just for ponies...
Title: Re: Any first hand experience fixing tail rust?
Post by: reanna-mator on December 08, 2015, 04:15:50 PM
I've also used dish soap with considerable success! Never tried toothpaste, I'll have to give that a shot next time...
Title: Re: Any first hand experience fixing tail rust?
Post by: Emerald on December 08, 2015, 04:45:54 PM
I found plain paste toothpaste under a sink but it doesn't say whitening. BOOOO!
Title: Re: Any first hand experience fixing tail rust?
Post by: Leopard_Print_Unicorn on December 08, 2015, 06:00:21 PM
It sounds like you have decided to try toothpaste first. For posterity, I just wanted to throw in that I have used the RIT rust remover. It does take the rust out very well, even from light colored hair. However, it is very drying and can make the hair frizzy.
Title: Re: Any first hand experience fixing tail rust?
Post by: lovesbabysquirmy on December 08, 2015, 07:42:55 PM
I'm the lazy one and I just put tails in a baby food jar of CLR for a few days.  Pull it out using gloves or tweezers, wash and condition, and *wah-lah!* des-rusted tail. 
Title: Re: Any first hand experience fixing tail rust?
Post by: Baby Sugarberry on December 08, 2015, 07:44:25 PM
It sounds like you have decided to try toothpaste first. For posterity, I just wanted to throw in that I have used the RIT rust remover. It does take the rust out very well, even from light colored hair. However, it is very drying and can make the hair frizzy.

Toothpaste will do that too - make sure you avoid scrubbing the hair into knots while you're cleaning, usually I'll hold the remainder of the tail tightly in one hand while using the toothbrush/paste with the other, gently back and forth.  It usually takes a couple of rounds before it'll all be gone, and conditioner afterwards is very important.
Title: Re: Any first hand experience fixing tail rust?
Post by: Stormness_1 on December 09, 2015, 02:48:50 PM
Yep toothpaste! Doesn't have to be whitening, although that works faster, because it's more abrasive. I use it all the time! It does dry out the tail though, so I condition before and after.
Title: Re: Any first hand experience fixing tail rust?
Post by: Emerald on December 10, 2015, 01:19:01 PM
Wellp, I have an update.

Toothpaste did nothing. I did it four times and nada. I'm 100% sure the toothpaste I used is the "right kind" but it's not touching this rust. It's still neon orange.
Title: Re: Any first hand experience fixing tail rust?
Post by: Sweet_Stuff on December 12, 2015, 08:22:37 PM
I have used Tom's whitening "peppermint" toothpaste for tail rust, but I only used it as a temporary fix until the pony could be thoroughly cleaned.. The original washer / tail were saved by using CLR. :)
Title: Re: Any first hand experience fixing tail rust?
Post by: Sparkle Pony on December 12, 2015, 08:38:01 PM
It sounds like you have decided to try toothpaste first. For posterity, I just wanted to throw in that I have used the RIT rust remover. It does take the rust out very well, even from light colored hair. However, it is very drying and can make the hair frizzy.
I think this is what I used but honestly I do not remember...
Something I rarely hear brought up about cleaning the rust: removing the metal clamp on the tail can be extremely difficult if it's still mostly intact.  I had to gracelessly bang it apart with a nail and a hammer, which was not the best way to keep the hair neatly together.
Title: Re: Any first hand experience fixing tail rust?
Post by: Leopard_Print_Unicorn on December 13, 2015, 07:38:28 AM
It sounds like you have decided to try toothpaste first. For posterity, I just wanted to throw in that I have used the RIT rust remover. It does take the rust out very well, even from light colored hair. However, it is very drying and can make the hair frizzy.
I think this is what I used but honestly I do not remember...
Something I rarely hear brought up about cleaning the rust: removing the metal clamp on the tail can be extremely difficult if it's still mostly intact.  I had to gracelessly bang it apart with a nail and a hammer, which was not the best way to keep the hair neatly together.

I used to have a pair of hemostats that I used to pry them off. It's ok, they were never actually used on a real patient. Needle nose pliers work well, too. You just have to be really careful that you don't break off the hair.
Title: Re: Any first hand experience fixing tail rust?
Post by: Emerald on December 13, 2015, 08:10:30 AM
I think I'm going to try CLR next, since I can get that locally and nobody here has the rit stuff. Is there a tutorial on that method anywhere, or do you just soak the tail in it for a few days? I've tried the toothpaste thing six times now and it hasn't done anything. I've used two kinds of toothpaste. I think Wigwam's tail is just too far gone for that method. Hopefully SOMETHING will save it. I'll make him a new tail if I have to, but I want to try everything I can before that.
Title: Re: Any first hand experience fixing tail rust?
Post by: lovesbabysquirmy on December 13, 2015, 08:57:56 AM
Try to unclamp the tail if it's gotten too bad- you can replace it with 2 zip ties and he'll never rust again!

But yes, just put the tail in a little container of CLR.  Check it after 24 hours, wash and see what happens! 
Title: Re: Any first hand experience fixing tail rust?
Post by: Emerald on December 13, 2015, 11:02:18 AM
I have zip ties ready for after the rust is fixed.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Any first hand experience fixing tail rust?
Post by: blondee1982 on December 13, 2015, 11:36:59 AM
I have had pretty good luck soaking for a few days in oxyclean too, it depends on the tail but it has worked 85% of the time
Title: Re: Any first hand experience fixing tail rust?
Post by: hathorcat on January 11, 2016, 01:55:08 PM
Mix toothpaste and baking soda into a paste and allow it to dry out on the tail - rinse and then use a paste to repeat with a scrub. You may need to repeat a few times.

Also...I would try and rescue the washer you threw away if you were going to sell the pony on, a new owner may hope to have that included. :)
Title: Re: Any first hand experience fixing tail rust?
Post by: ghouldilocks on January 11, 2016, 02:09:04 PM
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Also...I would try and rescue the washer you threw away if you were going to sell the pony on, a new owner may hope to have that included. :)

There are people who like to keep rusty old washers? I plan to replace all the washers/clamps on my ponies with zip ties as well, but ponies I sell or trade I don't touch - I figure the new owner can fix them up how they like. It makes more sense to me, though, to replace metal with plastic where you can, to avoid the potential for rust development later on.
Title: Re: Any first hand experience fixing tail rust?
Post by: Sweet_Stuff on January 11, 2016, 02:16:03 PM
...

Also...I would try and rescue the washer you threw away if you were going to sell the pony on, a new owner may hope to have that included. :)

There are people who like to keep rusty old washers? I plan to replace all the washers/clamps on my ponies with zip ties as well, but ponies I sell or trade I don't touch - I figure the new owner can fix them up how they like. It makes more sense to me, though, to replace metal with plastic where you can, to avoid the potential for rust development later on.

Hehehe.. I think what Cat is meaning is that some like to keep everything original on / in the pony. If washer is rusty then they can try to save it and put it back in pony.  ^.^
Title: Re: Any first hand experience fixing tail rust?
Post by: ghouldilocks on January 11, 2016, 02:39:56 PM
...

Also...I would try and rescue the washer you threw away if you were going to sell the pony on, a new owner may hope to have that included. :)

There are people who like to keep rusty old washers? I plan to replace all the washers/clamps on my ponies with zip ties as well, but ponies I sell or trade I don't touch - I figure the new owner can fix them up how they like. It makes more sense to me, though, to replace metal with plastic where you can, to avoid the potential for rust development later on.

Hehehe.. I think what Cat is meaning is that some like to keep everything original on / in the pony. If washer is rusty then they can try to save it and put it back in pony.  ^.^

That seems silly to me, as the washer can't even be seen inside the pony (except those lovely translucent sparkle girls, lol), but to each their own!
Title: Re: Any first hand experience fixing tail rust?
Post by: RainbowQuartz on January 11, 2016, 02:53:53 PM
The only way my ponies will be sold is if I die and my kids don't want them, so I'm not worried about resale. When there is rust I replace all metal bits with zip ties and I throw out the rusty stuff. I can see working on saving them if you plan to sell, but I don't. I'd rather not have to worry about future rust issues (I do have three kids and there is no guarantee that my ponies won't end up dunked in water at some point lol.) The pony I posted this about has a new tail now because nothing I did saved his original one.
Title: Re: Any first hand experience fixing tail rust?
Post by: hathorcat on January 17, 2016, 04:04:46 PM
...

Also...I would try and rescue the washer you threw away if you were going to sell the pony on, a new owner may hope to have that included. :)

There are people who like to keep rusty old washers? I plan to replace all the washers/clamps on my ponies with zip ties as well, but ponies I sell or trade I don't touch - I figure the new owner can fix them up how they like. It makes more sense to me, though, to replace metal with plastic where you can, to avoid the potential for rust development later on.

Hehehe.. I think what Cat is meaning is that some like to keep everything original on / in the pony. If washer is rusty then they can try to save it and put it back in pony.  ^.^

Yup - exactly what Sweet Stuff has said :)

The washers are perfectly cleanable as well - they can be cleaned up and most of the rust removed from them with patience. You will be surprised by the amount of people who put value in having something as original as possible. :)
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