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TCB => Trader & Shipping Support => Topic started by: silverdawn on November 26, 2014, 11:41:06 AM
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So I got this message from a buyer. Now tell me, does this sound threatening to you??
Silverdawn
I sincerely hope this was worth it. I was absolutely flabbergasted when I saw the price from my sniper service. It came very close to my limit. I had to do everything short of stealing to come up with the money. This is the most expensive item I have ever bought on eBay. It is almost double the price of the most expensive My Little Pony MOC I bought. The last [pony type removed to protect buyer] MOC I saw sold on eBay went for about [blank amount] less than a year ago. Of course, it was snatched up in about 10 minutes. I expected a higher price, but not that high. As I said, I really hope this is worth it, because [pony type removed] ponies are famous for pony cancer. I currently own an MLP Lofty MOC with pony cancer and I have no idea what to do with her. The seal on the card doesn't mean that they can't get cancer. Thank you for shipping it out so quickly.
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I hope you have delivery confirmation on it....
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It was sent insured priority so I can track it yes. And if he/she claims "damage" I'm safe there too. So it does sound scary to you?
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It was sent insured priority so I can track it yes. And if he/she claims "damage" I'm safe there too. So it does sound scary to you?
Yeah, it sounds like they were unhappy with the final selling price (despite bidding that high) and I think there's a good hint they think you're scamming them in there (even though they decided to bid that high). I reckon they'll try to pick on any flaws, real or imaginary, because they didn't actually want to spend that much money on that pony. I really hope they'll just suck it up but I can't help but feel that buyer's remorse is already showing :hug:
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Ugh. It does sound threatening, and I'd be prepared for a difficult buyer once she gets the package. I've had my fair share of "it'll never go this high - WOW did that go high!" auctions. If I can't or don't want to pay that much, I don't bid that much.
Good luck!
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Please, please message me this ebay user's ID!!!
It is not only threatening but down right ridiculous. If she is using a sniper service, only her and no one else can put in a max bid. :nuts:
The sniper service does not just randomly put a bid in for you. So what part of the price she paid is your fault.
I know this is going to sound like a waste of time but call eBay. I would! They need to know before hand you have been threatened.
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I'm pretty sure I know what pony the buyer is talking about (I was watching your auctions!). I would be quite worried over the message. But the buyer set the price for their sniping service so it is their own fault that they paid the amount they did. If they didn't want to pay that much they shouldn't have bid that much. I'm really not sure what the whole point of the message is honestly. I mean is she going to message you back in 6 months if something happens with the pony? I really hope everything works out for you dear!
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Whoa, that comes across pretty agressive. I have no idea why she is having a go at you for the price, no one was forcing her to put that bid in for fox sake!
I second calling eBay about this!
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I'm hoping it doesn't mean anything other than they're worried it's going to arrive not as they expected after they spent so much. But this pony was pretty nice, so if this is a decent person hopefully no problems. *fingers crossed* I don't want to report them to eBay yet as nothing actually has happened, but I'll definitely save that email if anything comes up. Doesn't eBay always side with the buyers no questions asked though?
Silverdawn
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I agree with you and the previous posters, that message does come across as extremely aggressive and threatening. I would definitely be prepared to deal some potential issues from this buyer after they receive the item. If I received this kind of message on ebay I would be extremely upset. No one forced them to put such a high bid in with their sniping service and have only themselves to blame for winning at a price towards the max of their bid range. Sounds to me like a case of buyer's remorse. If they are a collector they should know that prices can vary wildly, especially depending on how badly another bidder wants the item. The price something sold for a year ago is not always relevant to what something is worth now as the market for collectibles (including ponies) fluctuates constantly. I am so sorry you are having to deal with such a difficult buyer :( I am hoping for the best outcome for you!
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Thanks for all the support guys! And Goddess of Peep, I'm sorry to hear this happens to you too. Your items are always so gorgeous! (I think I may have been suckered into bidding in an auction or two of yours by those minty minty ponies, and the accessories! Ahhh! :)) I guess I'll see how it goes. Happy Thanksgiving of worrying and nail biting for me! Lol
Silverdawn
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Wow, scary! I will admit I always get nervous when an item sells for more than I expected- this kind of message would make me very scared indeed! You can definitely expect (from that email) that she will be inspecting the item like mad looking for some evidence of "pony cancer"
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as long as you posted high quality pictures and listed all the possible flaws i can't see how you'd be in the wrong.
i know when i had an auction go high, i took a monkey load of extra pictures after to make sure i had evidence. oh... and picture of it in the box. and pictures of me handing it to the postman. XD he thought i was nuts.
but it can't hurt.
sorry this person is, well way to aggressive. we're here for support.
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Why is she complaining about how much the pony cost? No one forced her to buy it. You never bid more than you're comfortable paying. :nuts: I would forward that message to eBay.
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Very odd!! Some strange folks around!!
Jules x
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I would *not* be happy with that message either! :whoa: As the others said, no-one forced her to bid that high and all that stuff about MOC's selling for a lot cheaper - well yeah some do. Some ponies are worth more than others . I think all collectors know that. If she didn't want to pay so much then why bid so high in the first place? :rolleyes:
Either she is super picky and worried about what she is going to get for her money (in which case why didn't she ask you a ton of questions first, and again why did she bid so high?) - ok I understand that she may be worried due to some ebay sellers dodgy descriptions but if she was so worried she needed to ask before bidding... Or she has buyers remorse as she imagined that she'd put in a whopping bid thinking it wouldn't go anywhere near that high and she would just win easy for a lower price *sigh* :(
I think I'd go with Ponyladys advice and call ebay to let them know about the situation and that rude message (keep polite of course but do let them know you are worried) :awake:
I'm glad you have tracking on that item!
Hope all works out well in the end, please keep us updated :hug:
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that is so random. Like it's some how you're fault she bid so high? I hope the remaining part of the sale is uneventful.
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You have gotten some awesome advice here. Keep us updated! If the buyer continues to be difficult I would like to add them to my Bad Trader List, because sending a threatening message like that as a response to "You have won! You are the high bidder!" does not bode well...
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Wow, can you please let me know who that buyer is? She sounds nuts and I think I have an idea who she might be. O.o
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Holy Cow.... I would be thoroughly disconcerted over that, too :huh: I'm with the consensus. Only they are responsible for their max bid, no one else. If they are unhappy with the end price, well, they just have to wear it and think a little carefully about how much they are prepared to punch in next time.
I hope this all winds up smoothly for you!
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Why would you enter a max bid you wouldn't be happy with, and then complain to the seller about it? I really hope this all turns out OK. Yes, it would scare me.
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How dumb and annoying, he/she only has himself to blame. I'd be expecting them to try to pull some stunt to knock down the price or open a claim or something..
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I'm slightly less worried now that I've talked a little more with the buyer. I think he/she just likes to talk a lot based on our conversations so I'm *hoping* that's all this is. *cries* It's been a horrible eBay day today. I had another of my regulars angry with me: I closed a BIN auction early because he/she wanted to combine shipping and eBay was forcing them to pay immediately because they had other unpaid items. (which was fine, we were waiting to combine shipping). So I said I'd close the auction and hold the pony for her/him and then just add the cost of the pony into the shipping of the final invoice. Well then, I send the invoice, and they're upset because they don't understand why shipping is so high. I explained it over and over and today they finally got the package and were still upset because they didn't understand how it could cost so much to ship the package. They were also mad because they thought the package (which also contained a MOC) was uninsured because the other ponies were shipped in with the MOC item. I paid for the insurance MYSELF on the whole box and actually undercharged myself by accident. They though I overcharged shipping, then lied about insurance? I seriously want to just cry right now. That and destroy all the MOC's. Goddess of Peep and Hudson, I don't know how you deal with this MOC drama all the time. :( This is horrible.
Silverdawn
Post Merge: November 26, 2014, 08:49:15 PM
as long as you posted high quality pictures and listed all the possible flaws i can't see how you'd be in the wrong.
i know when i had an auction go high, i took a monkey load of extra pictures after to make sure i had evidence. oh... and picture of it in the box. and pictures of me handing it to the postman. XD he thought i was nuts.
but it can't hurt.
sorry this person is, well way to aggressive. we're here for support.
Thank you so much for this! I am definitely going to start doing this from now on! Ugh, I still have more MOC items to go and I'm just dreading the buyers remorse.
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Hang in there, I am sure it will all work out. :) I'm pretty sure I was also bidding on the pony you are talking about. I was surprised when I got outbid because my limit was pretty high. It increased a few more times after that so I figured whoever was on the other end must want her pretty bad! Hopefully your buyer will be happy with her, she looked lovely in the pictures.
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Just a quick note: I think you might have gotten me mixed up with somebody else. I haven't sold in any quantity for a very, very long time. I was most active around 1998-2002 with selling and trading. I may have even bought/sold/traded with you way back when if you're the silverdawn who created the Petite Pocket:p
I do buy quite a bit though, and I'm no stranger to buying MOC ponies. I was just remarking on how nobody forced your buyer to put in that bid. What I was saying is that I'm no stranger to putting in a high bid and thinking it'll never in a million years get anywhere near it, and then finding out when the auction is over that it did indeed get up that high. If I win, I pay without complaint though since I put in the bid. Nobody forced me to bid.
I wish you the best of luck. I'm also really sorry to hear you're having troubles with other buyers as well. My ebay woes tend to come in clumps too. Hopefully things will get better soon!
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Hopefully everything will work out ^.^ :)
and what did we learn? :) Never bid if you aren't ready pay that much
I hope that the other buyer will also understand that shipping is never cheap.. when bigger and heavier package the bigger the costs. That should be obvious to any one.
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Just a quick note: I think you might have gotten me mixed up with somebody else. I haven't sold in any quantity for a very, very long time. I was most active around 1998-2002 with selling and trading. I may have even bought/sold/traded with you way back when if you're the silverdawn who created the Petite Pocket:p
I do buy quite a bit though, and I'm no stranger to buying MOC ponies. I was just remarking on how nobody forced your buyer to put in that bid. What I was saying is that I'm no stranger to putting in a high bid and thinking it'll never in a million years get anywhere near it, and then finding out when the auction is over that it did indeed get up that high. If I win, I pay without complaint though since I put in the bid. Nobody forced me to bid.
I wish you the best of luck. I'm also really sorry to hear you're having troubles with other buyers as well. My ebay woes tend to come in clumps too. Hopefully things will get better soon!
I must be thinking of Hudsonspelican :) But yes, I'm the same silverdawn who did the petite pocket and princess accessory guide. Both have been handed over to the Ponyland Tours creator. I remember back when you could still see buyers, I was frequently interested in the same auctions as you, but you usually outbid me ;) We both know good auctions when we see them! lol
Post Merge: November 27, 2014, 07:46:19 PM
Oh, and now someone is mad because a Princess Tiffany pose I sold "isn't as pictured" because it tips over when she touches it and it leans. *ugh* And you couldn't tell this from the picture because I supposedly took the picture "looking up". And you guessed it: "I paid a lot of money for this so I'm very disappointed". No possibility of buyer's remorse there. I'm giving this person return and a refund just to get rid of them. There are sure going to be a lot of blocked people after all this is done. I'm not allowed to curse on this board am I? lol
Silverdawn
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Ugh what a pain! there are so many buyers like that on ebay these days *sigh* it is best just to get rid of them though in as quick and as polite a way as possible (even if we feel like cursing them *grins* :P ) as if we don't then they'll just open a case on us and kick up a fuss and make more issues :(
Selling on ebay now is soooo not like the old days eh?
I remember being able to see who was bidding against me /buying the same stuff on evilbay too . We seemed to have less problems then - plus I liked being able to spy on the competition and know who I was up against lol :lol:
I hope you have better buyers in the future :hug:
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Ugh what a pain! there are so many buyers like that on ebay these days *sigh* it is best just to get rid of them though in as quick and as polite a way as possible (even if we feel like cursing them *grins* :P ) as if we don't then they'll just open a case on us and kick up a fuss and make more issues :(
Selling on ebay now is soooo not like the old days eh?
I remember being able to see who was bidding against me /buying the same stuff on evilbay too . We seemed to have less problems then - plus I liked being able to spy on the competition and know who I was up against lol :lol:
I hope you have better buyers in the future :hug:
Agreed! I liked being able to see who was bidding because then if I had a similar item I was selling, I could contact the second highest bidders and let them know what what listed. Now all I know is that I bid against e****o a lot ;) And this whole, no bad feedback for buyers thing is such crap. I WANT to know who the problem buyers are, regardless if they paid or not. If they made a seller's life brutal with their unreasonable demands, I want to be able to block them! But yes, I am refunding that person because I just want them gone. Hopefully they would never bid in my auctions again but I still blocked them just in case.
Silverdawn
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Wow, that's a lil snooty for my taste. I'd definitely be peeved if I saw that message, but if you're confident that you priced that pony fairly, then I'd stick to your guns. ♥
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And this whole, no bad feedback for buyers thing is such crap. I WANT to know who the problem buyers are, regardless if they paid or not. If they made a seller's life brutal with their unreasonable demands, I want to be able to block them!
Silverdawn
I completely agree with you on this too ^^ :nod: sellers need way more protection against these dodgy buyers, and not being able to leave feedback for bad buyers is ridiculous
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What a weird message! I don't think it was necessarily threatening - I can easily image someone saying these things in conversation with their friend, or texting it and adding a lot of exclamation points and emotes - but there's an undeniable aggressive vibe. They're basically doing everything they can to threaten to return the item without actually saying so. That whole thing is SO weird to send to the seller!
And s/he comes off sounding like a complete idiot, too. Maybe learn to be responsible for the things you're buying, person?!
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That attitude is terrifying. I understand ranting to a friend like "geeze I paid so much, I hope it's worth it!" but what's the point in saying this to the seller? Yikes.
I'm sorry you've had such a hard time with buyers lately. It hope it gets better for you. :hug:
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So I got this message from a buyer. Now tell me, does this sound threatening to you??
Silverdawn
I sincerely hope this was worth it. I was absolutely flabbergasted when I saw the price from my sniper service. It came very close to my limit. I had to do everything short of stealing to come up with the money. This is the most expensive item I have ever bought on eBay. It is almost double the price of the most expensive My Little Pony MOC I bought. The last [pony type removed to protect buyer] MOC I saw sold on eBay went for about [blank amount] less than a year ago. Of course, it was snatched up in about 10 minutes. I expected a higher price, but not that high. As I said, I really hope this is worth it, because [pony type removed] ponies are famous for pony cancer. I currently own an MLP Lofty MOC with pony cancer and I have no idea what to do with her. The seal on the card doesn't mean that they can't get cancer. Thank you for shipping it out so quickly.
I don't think it's threatening but it is disturbing.
So this buyer ended up paying more than they expected, ok, but they are responsible for their own bid! They are trying to make you feel guilty, that's really low and unprofessional.