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Title: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Watercolors on December 21, 2013, 03:40:05 PM
Went Christmas shopping at Toys R Us today with my little sister and mom. She and I both agreed that, for the first time in a long time, we didn't want any G4 ponies this year! It wasn't that we already had a ton of them, it was just that... there was nothing new. Even my little sister, the target audience and pony lover, couldn't find anything she wanted. She kind of wanted the Favorites set (for Muffin Pony, of course) but the price was just too high... not to mention the paper "accessories" were just ridiculous and most of them were repeats (lets not get started on the quality control... eeesh)

I guess its nice for my mom's wallet, but it was very disappointing!

I really wish they would do something new and fresh and exciting. Are any of you guys looking at the pony aisle and thinking the same thing?
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Katai on December 21, 2013, 04:03:07 PM
I liked when they had the random ones like Dew Drop Dazzle etc. Rather than the recycled mane 6 over and over again.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Twilight Pink on December 21, 2013, 04:09:00 PM
(Raises hoof) I am :/  :sigh: :yawn: :snore: *dreams about the days of G3*  :think: Yep...those were the days. ^^
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Deep Purple Crystal on December 21, 2013, 04:11:30 PM
I agree. I'm sick of it. I remember two or so years ago the shelves had lots of interesting ponies on them. I know the main 6 need to be omnipresent because they're the cartoon characters, but they can make other new  characters alongside them, not JUST the main 6, right?

I wonder if, when G5 starts in maybe 2016, would the G4's have by then slipped into a Core 7 mode with just those six and the three princesses? IF the cartoon series ever dies off, then we'll see some interesting things happen, as the main 6 will become useless after the cartoon ends (maybe next spring).
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Vertefae on December 21, 2013, 05:23:51 PM
I'm sick of the same 6 ponies over and over and over again...
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Jupiter on December 21, 2013, 05:49:52 PM
I saw the rainbow hair versions of a few of the main 6 and my reaction was "oh hey, these are here, but i really don't wanna  buy another RD or rarity etc" Hasbro is really draggin their rear with the ponies, the "selection" is so monotonous. The brushable poses are so boring too.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Violet CLM on December 21, 2013, 06:23:27 PM
Agreed on the boring poses. I look at G1 and G3 and I don't like every single pose, but they were at least interesting. More variety than standing vs. standing with one hoof in the air.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Nightbow on December 21, 2013, 06:40:11 PM
My Little Pony has always been about the toys, first and foremost. Which is why Hasbro is really shooting themselves in the foot. Well, the other foot. I can't help but feeling that I've already been through this.

I would like either a NMM or a Twilicorn that looks nice. But NMM is exclusive to some store and Twilight Alicorn with Spike is exclusive to another. Hello Hasbro, did you forget about your international fans? We grew up with ponies, too? If you want to make a profit, how does it make sense to try and sell overpriced collectibles to bronies while keeping us who are in it for the toys from buying them?! There is no Target, Costco, or Walmart in Sweden and I'm not going to go through the trouble of getting them shipped here by other collectors. I want to be able to go to the toy store and by my favourite ponies as well as new ones, and I'm sure these ponies are not going to be on the children's wish lists if they don't know of their existence.

So, if any Hasbro worker should read this, shame on you. Shame on letting Chinese children put together your toys, shame on your quality control, and shame for your ignorance towards your most stable and long-time fanbase: the girls that grew up with My Little Pony, of which many now have children on your own. Your reliance on the fickle brony fanbase will be the death of G4. There is only so many figures of Fluttershy that any of these people would like to buy. I got mine back when the line started. 
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Rachel-Eyes on December 21, 2013, 07:28:40 PM
My Little Pony has always been about the toys, first and foremost. Which is why Hasbro is really shooting themselves in the foot. Well, the other foot. I can't help but feeling that I've already been through this.

I would like either a NMM or a Twilicorn that looks nice. But NMM is exclusive to some store and Twilight Alicorn with Spike is exclusive to another. Hello Hasbro, did you forget about your international fans? We grew up with ponies, too? If you want to make a profit, how does it make sense to try and sell overpriced collectibles to bronies while keeping us who are in it for the toys from buying them?! There is no Target, Costco, or Walmart in Sweden and I'm not going to go through the trouble of getting them shipped here by other collectors. I want to be able to go to the toy store and by my favourite ponies as well as new ones, and I'm sure these ponies are not going to be on the children's wish lists if they don't know of their existence.

So, if any Hasbro worker should read this, shame on you. Shame on letting Chinese children put together your toys, shame on your quality control, and shame for your ignorance towards your most stable and long-time fanbase: the girls that grew up with My Little Pony, of which many now have children on your own. Your reliance on the fickle brony fanbase will be the death of G4. There is only so many figures of Fluttershy that any of these people would like to buy. I got mine back when the line started. 

Well said, Nightbow. I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one upset with the whole exclusive thing. I live in the largest city in the United States that does not have a Target, so there are ponies that I've missed out on before, simply because they were not available to me. It's not fair to people who don't have whatever store in their area. Plus, doesn't it make more sense for your merchandise to be available everywhere rather than one concentrated spot? Isn't that going to spread your brand?

I understand that marketing and economics are much different now than what they were back in the days of G1, but still, there are some charms to the line that helped keep it popular in its own right. Several ponies were recycled, but new things were done to them and they weren't so repetitive that they became uninteresting. The reason I sent someone on a special Target mission when he was out of town was to get me those sparkley Pinkie Pie and Wysteria ponies. Those are kind of new and kind of neat. Why can't the rehashes be more like that, instead of just repackaging the same ponies with new accessories?

This boring Core 7/Mane 6 thing just comes off as really lazy and unoriginal to myself and many others out there, and that's really not a good thing. I've feared for a while now that it may become the death of the brand. :( Only time will tell, of course, but it's still a legitimate fear.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Aienhime on December 21, 2013, 08:21:54 PM
I don't really mind the exclusive thing. I mean, MLP always had exclusives; store exclusives, country exclusives, continent-exclusives, even in the early years of gen1. As long as it's not excessive I like having to hunt down ponies from other places with the help of fellow collectors! It's part of the collecting-experience for me.

I am, however, sad that there's so little new ponies coming out. I liked that gen4 didn't have excessive amounts of new ponies like gen3 had at some point as that made me lose interest, too; I just couldn't keep up. But in the first two years or so of gen4 there was a moderate amount of new ponies every quarter combined with fun re-releases of the mane 6. The last year though, the only easily accesible new pony was Sunset Shimmer and the mrs. Cake set! Such a shame, as there's plenty of awesome ponies out there that deserve a proper release. Just look at all the background ponies and the blind bag ponies! It makes gen4 boring and children will lose interest in the line as well if there's never anything new to add.

It's a real shame. There's so many things they can base new ponies or new playsets on...
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Al-1701 on December 21, 2013, 08:44:17 PM
The thing I don't understand about collapsing the brand to mostly only the mane 6 is it makes no sense from an accounting standpoint.  Hasbro is not really saving any money by limiting the variety of brushables.  Making a pony costs the same weather it's Rainbow Dash or some random pony that never appears on the show.  And frankly the target audience for the brushables (little girls) aren't going to care if the pony is on TV or not.  While including the Mane 6 in every wave might make some sense, having a dozen or so new ponies in each wave would not cost Hasbro a dime extra and probably earn them more revenue.

I do think bronies are fruit from the forbidden tree for Hasbro.  Yes, they're making money hand over fist off of them now, but the vast majority are going to disappear when Friendship is Magic finishes up (which will hopefully be on a high note).  Focusing on them to the detriment of the rest of their customer base will hurt the franchise in the long run.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: nollilols on December 21, 2013, 10:32:19 PM
I have virtually no interest in G4 for many reasons, but the repeated ponies don't help. I really like the Rainbow Power ones with the multi-coloured tinsel - I may get those, but beyond that I've only ever bought the basic figures and one Pinkie with tinsel. I particularly like Pinkie so I want the one with the black streak in her hair, but aside from that I don't bother with the Mane 6. I have a Vinyl Scratch, and the Muffin Pony and Shining Armor are on their way to me. I'm definitely more interested in the secondary characters.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Dashy77 on December 21, 2013, 11:10:10 PM
Sad to say, as a newer Brony; started appx a year ago, I've collected enough to make me bored of it already as well. There are a few things that keep me interested but really nothing new, it's mostly G4 stuff before I started collecting. Only thing that keeps me interested is the new/upcoming & proto's from funko, custom OOAK, custom plushies, and LE things. Which obv are all rare pretty much.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Bergamot on December 21, 2013, 11:24:38 PM
I've become bored with G4, too. Some of the third party vendors are doing a decent job shaking things up, but Hasbro itself makes some incredibly boring offerings.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: CupidStrikes on December 21, 2013, 11:31:22 PM
Yup, I agree :( We've had even fewer new releases over here, too, as Hasbro have spent the last year releasing 95% of new ponies as exclusives for the US! I'm sick of importing. I'm sick of being unable to go to a store in my country and buy new ponies. Importing is expensive and takes all the fun out of going to the toy aisle. We don't even have the first season of FiM on DVD here yet! If MLP is selling poorly here, Hasbro is entirely at fault, and I sincerely hope someone from Hasbro reads this because they are ruining their brand here.

It's just depressing. Same old, over and over, and it means we miss the newer releases that we do get, especially blind bags, because stores still have the same stock from one, two years ago =/ Some of the RP ponies look interesting, but I'm not holding my breath as the MLP sections in stores is getting smaller every month.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: sd_dreamcrystal on December 21, 2013, 11:35:10 PM
I've been bored with the line as of late... kind of debating on getting Twilight in the Cadance mold but really been passing her up... As I stated when they really started into just the main 6 ponies I started calling the ponies custom fodder.. which I still haven't bought any because I have spares from other sets I can use!

I'm actually to the point where I'm -looking- for fakies XD
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Lucky_Ladybug on December 21, 2013, 11:47:01 PM
I'm pretty disappointed by re-releasing the main characters over and over and rarely ever having new ones anymore. And half the time when they do, it's just in way expensive sets!

I do like the new Rainbow Power Fashion Style Rarity, to my surprise. With the designs all over her, she kind of reminds me of a G1 Twice-as-Fancy Pony. I think I need her in my collection to stand there and look pretty.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Roseprincess1 on December 21, 2013, 11:53:38 PM
I dont think id classify it as bored persay... I'm just kinda wishing that they'd have some other characters besides the main six. I mean Twilight is an alicorn now.. so they  use the cadence / luna mold right? So its the perfect excuse to make some new ponies in the regular molds.  Or even re release some of those that are MIND NUMBINGLY hard to get hold of.. :cough cough: Sky wishes and rainbow flash :Cough cough:
Any how.. i dont mind the poses... i guess it costs more now to make them different than when g1 happened. But .. just some other people would be nice. I REALLY DONT need another bloody pinkie pie.
I think we only got a few new ones this year.. and they were all in the box sets, so if you got them you gota lot of repeats.. Dont get me wrong im happy with my toys r us faves set.
Tiara's cute, Lyrica was cute, I love Chrysalis ( how often do you see a pony with straight hair?) and i swapped my wedding shining armor for the one with the blue feet, not to mention Muffin was the one i really wanted. but the only other two new ones we got.. were Wysteria and Minty (both of which i might add were EXTREAMLY HARD to get hold of... have you learned nothing from the 2006 botcon fiasco hasbro!!?).
So i hope that we get to see some new stuff. I DO kinda want Tinsel haired rarity.. but Im a lil tapped on all the repeats.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: SeashellnBubbles on December 22, 2013, 12:01:31 AM
I started back into ponies in January of this year after receiving my grail ponies from my dad. I had no idea that they were "grail" ponies (Seashell and Bubbles) until I joined the arena here in February and began to learn the terminology (nirvana, FIM, TE, etc) I began to warm to the G4's who were so different than my childhood ponies.
I began gathering up as many MIB (another term :) ) as possible, and quickly my collection grew to hold every one of them both MIB and free-style, so I could play with them with my neice and nephew. Then I sat back in July and august and waited for something new.

And waited.

And sold most of my loose G4's.

And waited and got sick of seeing Rarity and the gang tarted up in new RP garb. The blind bags hold no interest for me (though some are cute, like RP DJ) the pony releases are monotonous, and my mind (and money) drifted to Nirvanas and other G1 oddities and childhood wants.
My money now goes from supporting a conglomerate toy company back to the pony collecting community or eBay families who need the money or whatever.  I'd rather my money go to individuals who, maybe not now but at one time, cherished and loved the same thing i held dear to me. Hasbro can suck it.

Post Merge: December 22, 2013, 12:05:26 AM

Oh...what was the 2006 BotCon fiasco, BtW?
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Al-1701 on December 22, 2013, 12:16:32 AM
Admittedly, I'm more interested in collecting my favorites from G1 as well.

I sometimes wonder how G4 will end.  I sincerely hope Hasbro has the sense to end Friendship is Magic on a high note and not run it into the ground so people remember it for going on for a season too long.  I also hope customers are not too turned off by the lack of variety and questionable quality to not come back for what comes next.  I hope G4 doesn't end with the brand going back into the wilderness like it did after the end of G1.

Edit:  And I just traded a coat of flocking for gem eyes.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Lucky_Ladybug on December 22, 2013, 12:17:17 AM
Hasbro should release a lot of the Blind Bag characters as Brushables. Then there'd so many fun characters to collect!
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Roseprincess1 on December 22, 2013, 12:21:50 AM
Oh...what was the 2006 BotCon fiasco, BtW?

Well I collect transformers as well as MLP's hasbro really should give me some stock.
Any how,
Back in 2006 they released this great line of transformers. THey took all the classic characters, and re did them 1980's style ... but used modern tech on them. So we get all these cool toys that LOOK like the original G1's but DON'T fall apart if you look at them the wrong way. ( a common problem with some G1 TF's)
So there was a particular set of characters that EVERYONE wanted. The Decepticon Jets, at that point, only one(starscream) had been released.
So they let them be released in this great set... and only make 2000 copies of the set.  :what:
So.. all these characters every one wanted... and you could only get them here... and they only made a handful.  :stressed:
The original reasoning behind it, that hasbro claims, was that they did them for the con specifically because they "thought" they wouldn't sell. :facepalm:
I think that's an excuse and that they just enjoy watching people squirm.
EVENTUALLY they released the characters mass production.
but it took them till 2012 to do so.. So we had to wait six years to get the mass production versions of the characters everyone really wanted.
Because hasbro thought they wouldn't "sell".
I think they use that as a reason for a lot of stuff they do with mlp as well. They think only the mane six will "Sell" so they dont make any other characters.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: HelloGoodbye on December 22, 2013, 12:24:55 AM
Yes and no.

For brushables, totally!  It bothers the heck out of me buying doubles of stuff, unless there is a big difference that I really think is cool.  Part of the reason I like G3 is the sheer volume of different ponies available.  It was fun to go to the store and be like "Wow!  I've never seen her before!".  I was a huge fan of the G4 brushables that weren't the mane 6.  I kind of want the new favorites set, but I'm really not a fan of Chrysalis in any form, and I'd get a lot of doubles.   The only "new" brushables I intend to get at some point are alicorn Twilight, White Celestia, and Luna on the Cadance mold.  Also, I guess Muffin pony.  So, yeah, I'm bored on that score.

That being said, I really like Equestria Girls dolls, and Blind Bags.  I love the sheer variety you can get with Blind Bags, so I buy them very frequently.  I also like the variety available in terms of plushies.  So I'm not bored with these things yet, but otherwise, I'd say I'm kind of bored overall.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: LordBlumiere on December 22, 2013, 12:27:57 AM
Welllll... like most others have said here, kind of. I really did enjoy the variety of ponies they were selling at the beginning, but I didn't have a chance to pick up very many before Hasbro switched track to mainly offering the mane 6. I do like the designs of the Rainbow Power line, but I still want new and different ponies :( Core 7 bored me, and now Mane 6, even though I love the show, is boring me. And I don't want that!
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: hathorcat on December 22, 2013, 12:43:24 AM
I am not bored, no. But I will admit to pretty much being on board the "please give us new characters in the playful size" bus. That needs to happen otherwise, yes, I may reach boredom.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: gabumon on December 22, 2013, 01:07:44 AM
Count me in too... Bore 6.   

Guess I should just savor my G4 Sunny Rays and Diamond Rose all the more...
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Lucky_Ladybug on December 22, 2013, 01:22:48 AM
I should have bought Sunny Rays when I had the chance. I didn't know she would end up being one of the last non-main 6 single release Brushables.

I am pretty happy with Equestria Girls dolls and the plushies; they're keeping me pretty busy while I'm not collecting the Brushables. I do need to get the Princess packs, though (but then I'll end up with doubles of Pinkie and Rarity).
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: CupcakeLoverXx on December 22, 2013, 01:32:45 AM
I'm really tired of the G4 brushables,because of they are all rehashes of the mane 6,and are in the same boring standing pose. I'm not one of those people who wants to buy every single release because of different accessories,so now I have the mane 6,princesses,Sunset Shimmer and a few background/toy only ponies,I'm kind of at a loss! I'd really like the 2nd favourites collection too,because that's literally the only way to get new brushables at the moment (plus I love the muffin brushable!) but £40 for 7 ponies,two of which I already own,is ridiculous.
Plus,as CupidStrikes said,I'm sick of Hasbro making all exclusives (well,except Pinkie Pie's Boutique,but it's really expensive here) US/Canada only. They are on Amazon,but £15 for Shadowbolt Rainbow Dash? Really?

I do like the blind bags/minature sets however,but it's hard trying to find them around here. Especially after Hasbro decided a fantastic idea would be to split wave 8 into two parts - it's so difficult trying the part with the ponies you want :( Hopefully this doesn't happen with wave 9.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: ravengusty on December 22, 2013, 02:08:30 AM
i haven't bought a G4 since...Uk Ponycon in September. I got Luna FS, a Pinkie FS with a black balloon symbol, and an Applejack brushable which technically I won from a lady doing a kind of 'pick a straw' game where i got a lollipop stick with a blue mark on it and got to pick a prize from a bag and it was AJ. Oh and I bought brushable Blossomforth.

That's it and I'm not currently interested in getting anymore. I have a few on a wishlist but they're an after thought right now as I'm mostly focusing on G1 brush and grows and Princesses. And as I'll be saving for our wedding after Christmas there'll be a lot less mad pony buying and more sedate pace of find the odd pony on here or ebay and getting round to my pile of tlcs and rehairs.

Hasbro need to be careful as children are not stupid. They will get bored of repetitive toys and move on to another toy. I'm making a custom for my goddaughter similar to Rainbow Dash (but unique in it's own right). That is pretty much the only pony related thing she's getting this year and that's because she specifically asked if I'd make her one as she's seen the others I've made and wanted one herself.

Hasbro seems to me to be forgetting both the collectors and target audience market and really underestimating the longevity of the main six.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Aquatic Neon on December 22, 2013, 02:26:02 AM
G4 hasbro absolutely, bore 6 singles I'm so done with. Not to mention how annoying it is when the only time we get new releases it's in the special expensive packs paired with more re-releases. Also really dislike the rainbow line it's silly dramatic, and dumb in my opinion.

G4 funko not bored at all very very excited! I love collecting these, even though glitter hunts can be exhausting it's so worth it and a lot of fun! They are my absolute favorite!
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Wardah on December 22, 2013, 03:29:59 AM
I'm bored but I'm more bored with not seeing any of the new stuff in stores. Still neon blind bags and mask ponies and first waves of Equestria Girls. None of the rainbow stuff has showed up yet.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Violet CLM on December 22, 2013, 04:03:09 AM
And frankly the target audience for the brushables (little girls) aren't going to care if the pony is on TV or not.
I don't think this is totally true. When I see little kids choosing which ponies to buy, they do tend to talk about their roles in the show, like avoiding Sunset Shimmer because she's evil.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: sd_dreamcrystal on December 22, 2013, 04:06:10 AM
It's great that people are finding interest in the other lines for G4 (Blind bags, EQG, Funko) but sadly for those of us who have no interest in those lines... leaves us begging for something new in singles. I think I now actually have 3 to 4 Celestias because of sets.. which is minute to some of the others.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Sora on December 22, 2013, 04:37:35 AM
I think I have, not so much because of the repition of the mane six, but because of the lack of releases in my country. I can't get Nightmare Moon, Shadowbolt Dash, Minty, Bubble Muffin and so many more solely because Hasbro will not release them over here. They will, however, release EVERY SINGLE Pinkie, which I'm personally sick of (though the one Pinkie I may have broke down and purchased - Chinese Pinkie, they have decided against releasing presently - Why? Not Pink enough, Hasbro UK?).

And even if I try to order from the US TRU, their exclusives are always one of the few items that 'cannot be shipped internationally'. Hooray. I know I can get a middle man in for me, but really - I shouldn't need to do that when almost all toys involving the mane six are released promptly over here.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Skylar on December 22, 2013, 04:38:39 AM
I'm not a big fan of G4 but there are a few that I have liked.None of which are the Mane 6. To see Hasbro repeating the huge mistake they made with Bore Seven shows what a bunch of idiots that they are and really don't have much of an interest in making sure the line succeeds for a long time to come. Very foolish considering how much $$ they could be making. But they would have to put the effort forth first. That just seems to tuff for them.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: hathorcat on December 22, 2013, 04:39:20 AM
It's great that people are finding interest in the other lines for G4 (Blind bags, EQG, Funko) but sadly for those of us who have no interest in those lines... leaves us begging for something new in singles. I think I now actually have 3 to 4 Celestias because of sets.. which is minute to some of the others.

I think I am most disappointed for this exact reason - the lack of singles...because for me thats what MLP is all about. Plastic ponies in a size consistent/comparable across the line in a variety of colours and characters. I dont count blind bags as filling that niche. Ponyville size ponies are just merch for me not ponies.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: LunaCat on December 22, 2013, 05:00:56 AM
I'm tired of the main 6 being release, over and over and over with different items. At first they had released different ponies like Plumsweet, snowcatcher and it was great but I haven't seen any new ponies. I bought the two Fantastic Flutters which will be my last unless I see new ponies.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Koudoawaia on December 22, 2013, 05:07:41 AM
Yeah there hasn't been anything all that exciting lately.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Al-1701 on December 22, 2013, 05:17:33 AM
You have to wonder what is going through the heads of Hasbro's marketing department.  In the 80's and early 90's the general idea was "The more ponies the better."  Now, it's "Mane 6 and other prominent ponies from the show only."  Again, it costs nothing extra to have large assortment of ponies and probably brings in more revenue.  A little girl isn't going to say "I don't want that one because it's not on the show," she going to say "I like the pony" if it's a nice looking pony.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Loa on December 22, 2013, 05:39:58 AM
I've been tired of G4 since G3.5!
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Stormness_1 on December 22, 2013, 06:18:15 AM
For me, getting new characters now is so hard, that I'm just sick of having to do it. I'm over having to use my sales ponies as trades because it's the only way I can afford to import these new ponies that some people can walk into a store and buy. It's ridiculous even having to import brand new toys! What about our TRU? They obviously aren't exclusive enough for hasbroken.

I'm struggling to even find the ponies in stores I haven't been to before... they have one little line of the masquerade ponies and that's it in most places now, it's not hard to walk straight past them. Fakies have more stock, especially in Kmarts now. So I've been buying lala loopsie minis, and G1's, so much less frustrating.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Shenanigans on December 22, 2013, 06:43:36 AM
I'm not really collecting blind bags much anymore so things are a bit boring for me since they just seem to want to release new characters for BB's only :( There are a few ponies I want out of the new Rainbow line, but not many. New characters, Hasbro!!
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: invaderhorizongreen on December 22, 2013, 06:49:44 AM
I am bored with the lack of brusable ones, I have a few still on my list but that is all. I would love to see so many more characters made as brushable.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: RarityDash on December 22, 2013, 06:53:56 AM
I am getting a little bored of Hasbro re-releasing the Mane 6 with one little difference so I need it, but I have found a trick to finding the older brushable singles from the wedding line and such. They always pop up for me at places you wouldn't expect to find ponies. A few weeks ago, I was at CVS (a drugstore in the USA) and I saw they had some toys. Just because I have a habit of checking everywhere I go for ponies, I looked and they had Sunny Rays all by herself on the shelf. I almost bought her, but she was $9, which was a couple more than what I was willing to pay. These non-pony section stores usually have the ponies for more than toy stores (6-9 dollars), but you may come across something cool.
-RarityDash
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Malicieuse on December 22, 2013, 09:17:31 AM
It's not hard for me to be bored of G4. I think only 3-4 new characters appeared in stores here last year? So unless you want to pay a bunch of shipping costs and custom charges there just is nothing going on.
Only re-releases and blind bag ponies (who i got tired of too).
I really have very little positive to say about G4 as a toyline.

I actually think Equestria Girls has become more interesting than the pony line. At least they got different outfits and different kinds of body articulation.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Zapper on December 22, 2013, 09:33:47 AM
I'm not so much bored as annoyed. There is so much you could do with this toyline. The cartoon and comics establish so many good ideas you could use for toys, but no. Not even Crystal Ponies with clear bodies, they just put gem shapes into their eyes (I will never let go of this grudge, lol).
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Lucky_Ladybug on December 22, 2013, 10:29:24 AM
I am getting a little bored of Hasbro re-releasing the Mane 6 with one little difference so I need it, but I have found a trick to finding the older brushable singles from the wedding line and such. They always pop up for me at places you wouldn't expect to find ponies. A few weeks ago, I was at CVS (a drugstore in the USA) and I saw they had some toys. Just because I have a habit of checking everywhere I go for ponies, I looked and they had Sunny Rays all by herself on the shelf. I almost bought her, but she was $9, which was a couple more than what I was willing to pay. These non-pony section stores usually have the ponies for more than toy stores (6-9 dollars), but you may come across something cool.
-RarityDash

Yep, I've found some very intriguing older releases in drug stores sometimes! They're definitely a good place to try if you're prepared to pay a little more than usual.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Bow Tie on December 22, 2013, 10:32:57 AM
I am getting a little bored of Hasbro re-releasing the Mane 6 with one little difference so I need it, but I have found a trick to finding the older brushable singles from the wedding line and such. They always pop up for me at places you wouldn't expect to find ponies. A few weeks ago, I was at CVS (a drugstore in the USA) and I saw they had some toys. Just because I have a habit of checking everywhere I go for ponies, I looked and they had Sunny Rays all by herself on the shelf. I almost bought her, but she was $9, which was a couple more than what I was willing to pay. These non-pony section stores usually have the ponies for more than toy stores (6-9 dollars), but you may come across something cool.
-RarityDash
Yep, I've found some very intriguing older releases in drug stores sometimes! They're definitely a good place to try if you're prepared to pay a little more than usual.
I have seen some of the first wave ponies like Snowcatcher and Dewdrop Dazzle at Family Dollar, but this was earlier in the year.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Lucky_Ladybug on December 22, 2013, 10:50:43 AM
Oooh. Maybe I should check a Family Dollar anyway! I don't have those early G4 releases.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: SeashellnBubbles on December 22, 2013, 11:01:11 AM
I think I got sick of it when I went into walMart and was just staring at a whole shelf and 5 or 6 hangers FULL of Pinkies and noone else! Pinkie small, Pinkie lightup necklace, walking talking Pinkie, brushable Pinkie, FS Pinkie...
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Twilight Pink on December 22, 2013, 11:07:56 AM
I think I got sick of it when I went into walMart and was just staring at a whole shelf and 5 or 6 hangers FULL of Pinkies and noone else! Pinkie small, Pinkie lightup necklace, walking talking Pinkie, brushable Pinkie, FS Pinkie...
The My Little Pony line is now called "My Little Pinkie Pie"  :P  :lol:
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: gabumon on December 22, 2013, 11:12:12 AM
^ yeah... :(
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Lucky_Ladybug on December 22, 2013, 11:24:06 AM
LOL.

I've never walked into a store and seen multiple merchandise of just one character and no one else at all, but that would be frustrating.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Bow Tie on December 22, 2013, 11:36:46 AM
Oooh. Maybe I should check a Family Dollar anyway! I don't have those early G4 releases.
It's definitely worth a shot! Hopefully you can find some!
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Tirac on December 22, 2013, 12:12:07 PM
D: This exactly.
It doesn't help that I'm not sold on the style the G4s have, or that they are really tiny, or that the quality control is bad or that prices are really high for the size and quality,
then add to the fact that there is hardly any variety and availability is an issue. We just got a Target, which is awesome. But without my drivers license I have no way of getting to it except by an extremely uncomfortable and confusing trip on a bus which makes going to get ponies hard, then when I actually get there it's pretty much just all Pinkie Pie. ;n; Better than the selection at Walmart though.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: cobalte on December 22, 2013, 12:32:39 PM
Yeah I'm pretty over it. There's barely any stock around here. The latest wave of singles that just came in are the Masquerade ones with Sunset Shimmer, but there's barely any on the shelves. There's the black/white/pink PP sets but they're just too much for the junk they come packaged with. Not to mention barely any TRU exclusives, none of the Funko figures that can be sparkly... there's just nothing I really want to buy. Shame.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Shenanigans on December 22, 2013, 12:35:29 PM
Oooh. Maybe I should check a Family Dollar anyway! I don't have those early G4 releases.

My Family Dollar had Lulu Luck, Diamond Rose and several other earlier releases at the beginning of the year and someone on the Arena said she found Lily Blossom and Blossomforth at her Family Dollar about a month ago so I would definitely check FD for old pony stock :D
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Deep Purple Crystal on December 22, 2013, 04:15:37 PM
It's getting so boring, I sometimes don't even bother going to the pony section anymore.  They're just so boring and poor quality, these newer re-releases.

What's worse is, some main 6 are harder to find than others! (I call it the 'Toola-Roola Syndrome', because back in the core 7 days, she was very hard to find despite being a core character in comparison to others such as Pinkie Pie) For example, Applejack seems to be pretty hard to go by. So does Fluttershy. But then, they sell millions upon millions of Pinkies, which is useless, because they don't seem to care that girls don't just want a pink toy, they want their favorite character, and if Pinkie isn't their favorite, than- well, I just don't know.

Now we're in the UK, and it's even WORSE! The only place to find ponies I know of is at Tesco's, and there, all they have are a few masquerade brushables from this spring, the Famous Friends set, and the Rainbow Blind Bag Collection from Target LAST YEAR! It's just so pitiful. They don't even sell the center of this year's line, Mega Twilightcorn!

Same with Barbie and the Life in the Dreamhouse dolls not in the UK. I secretly wanted a Summer, but then we came here and again-NOTHING"S THERE!

(Don't worry. I don't usually like Barbies, but the Dreamhouse cartoon is just so hilarious...)
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Winter Bones on December 22, 2013, 04:18:45 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again, and again, and again, but it seems that Hasbro never listens. Personally, I doubt they will listen until we get the message straight about just how bored we are with the lack of new ponies. So why not talk to them?

I mean, isn't it a strange coincidence that, after enough members (http://mlparena.com/index.php/topic,313904.0.html) directly or indirectly asked Hasbro for a G4 Minty (http://mlparena.com/index.php?topic=315114.0) they released a G4 Minty? Maybe if we ask them for more variety, they'll give us more variety. Or at least give us an answer as to why they're bombarding us with Plain 6 all the time.

Don't get me wrong, I'm well aware big H ignores us more often than not, but even if they don't listen we can't say we didn't warn them if the toy line ever comes crashing down from an overload of re-releases. If we don't try, we'll never know. Not to mention it only takes five minutes in the Hasbro complaint department. Or even less time than that to throw a banner in your sig or click 'like' on a facebook page.

So that's what I'm gonna do: voyage over to hasbro.com and give them some honest feedback. I'd encourage anyone else who wants more new characters to do the same.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Sarah-Bee on December 22, 2013, 08:55:55 PM
Funko is the only thing keeping my G4 attention these days.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Cool.Breeze on December 22, 2013, 11:32:06 PM
I've been tired of G4 since G3.5!

 :haha: <3

Well I wasn't bored quite that fast, but as of September of this year I've definitely turned into a doll nut :B Since becoming interested in dolls, the only G4 items I've bought were a Build-A-Bear Fluttershy and a 10" Aurora Fluttershy plush (pretty much sticking to Luna and Fluttershy army-building these days). Too bad Hasbro is too cheap to do something super awesome like articulated pony figures. It's also too bad they appear to have switched over to an even cheaper quality factory (if you look at the eye gradients on the old FS Rarity and compare it to RP FS Rarity, Rainbow Power Rarity's eyes are quite crappy in comparison :< too bad, because I was intending to buy her....)
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on December 23, 2013, 12:10:10 AM
How could anyone be bored with numbers like this:

10 applejack

25 rarity

100 Twilight Sparkle

300 fluttershy

1,000,000,000,000,000 Rainbow Dash

1,000,000,000,000,005 Pinkie Pie


Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: spottedslug on December 23, 2013, 12:25:43 AM
Well put, Karen! I'm quite tired of the 6, but the rest is still intriguing to me.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: HoustonCollector72 on December 23, 2013, 12:33:45 AM
Hope they release more ponies soon :) so many boys in the show, they have a big untapped market on them as well :) , even the famous background ponies , just one release for muffins pony and djpon3 so far, no brushable yet for octavia at all or carrot tops, bon bon,dr whooves   And the rest :(!



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Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: SeashellnBubbles on December 23, 2013, 12:40:50 AM
I like the idea of a mass gripe to Hasbro.com! What's the point of sitting here inthe arena grousing about it when we can actually take steps to DO something about it? I'm heading straight there right now to tell them just how I feel about their product, and entirely disappointed I am that something I've kept so close to my heart has been turned into a ghost of its former glory.
I can understand the rerelease thing from their end, but they need to do a better job of it. I hold Monster High as a perfect example of successful rerelease strategy. They have their core characters who get completely different outfits, hairstyles, face paint, accessories etc, but they also release a few new characters in each line, like Gigi Grand and Twyla etc, to keep things fresh and interesting!
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Zapper on December 23, 2013, 12:51:44 AM
I hold Monster High as a perfect example of successful rerelease strategy. They have their core characters who get completely different outfits, hairstyles, face paint, accessories etc, but they also release a few new characters in each line, like Gigi Grand and Twyla etc, to keep things fresh and interesting!

It hurts me to say this, but they're doing just that with Equestria Girls. The Rainbow Rocks line might seem weird because it has no tie-ins with the movie or show or whatever, but it's made to lure in Monster High fans. That's evident in the outrageous shoe designs, the dolls getting feet that are arched and have no articulation and the weird-a** outfits. They also keep on introducing new characters to each line or set along with the Mane Six (even though they also seem to focus a lot on Pinkie and Rainbow, who are the most popular ponies amongst the kids).

So I fear bringing up MH will just make them chuckle and point towards their MH wannabes EQG ;)
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on December 23, 2013, 01:01:32 AM
Whatever hasbro says Equestria Dolls is supposed to be, I do not see it as a doll for 'older' people/collectors. As far as quality goes It's still right there in line with the 3 year olds if you ask me.

They've gotta do a lot better job on these dolls to make me believe they're going to attract both doll collectors and older girls to the brand.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: hathorcat on December 23, 2013, 01:09:06 AM
I've said it before and I'll say it again, and again, and again, but it seems that Hasbro never listens. Personally, I doubt they will listen until we get the message straight about just how bored we are with the lack of new ponies. So why not talk to them?

I mean, isn't it a strange coincidence that, after enough members (http://mlparena.com/index.php/topic,313904.0.html) directly or indirectly asked Hasbro for a G4 Minty (http://mlparena.com/index.php?topic=315114.0) they released a G4 Minty? Maybe if we ask them for more variety, they'll give us more variety. Or at least give us an answer as to why they're bombarding us with Plain 6 all the time.

Don't get me wrong, I'm well aware big H ignores us more often than not, but even if they don't listen we can't say we didn't warn them if the toy line ever comes crashing down from an overload of re-releases. If we don't try, we'll never know. Not to mention it only takes five minutes in the Hasbro complaint department. Or even less time than that to throw a banner in your sig or click 'like' on a facebook page.

So that's what I'm gonna do: voyage over to hasbro.com and give them some honest feedback. I'd encourage anyone else who wants more new characters to do the same.

I completely agree that its worth shouting. :) because you just never know. I think for single community things like Minty its always worth a shot. My only comment on the grander scheme of core characters, is that collectors enmasse did very vocally let hasbro know thoughts and opinions when bore 7 came along. And unfortunately a toy line with core characters is clearly their plan and it must stack up financially enough for them to have been running with it for 6 years now. I dont like it anymore than anyone else but I think in terms of sales and dollars re releases are not going to bring about the end if the toy line g4.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: gabumon on December 23, 2013, 01:57:33 AM
(Meanwhile Hasbro is making a dozen new figures for Transformer fans based on random (also awesome) background IDW comic book characters)

/end-rant

:sad:
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Dashy77 on December 23, 2013, 02:05:08 AM
Nice to see a variety of feelings on this post.

Funko is what's keeping me going really and some WeLoveFine stuff. I think what does it for me is just trying to complete a sheer collection of certain lines or series. Like I'm about done with Blind Bag Wave 9, Funko Mystery Mini's (2 to go), Funko Vinyls (1 to go) and the collectable cards. I saw the new trading card game and bought em because just one more thing to collect and it's brand new. lol. 
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Al-1701 on December 23, 2013, 03:13:41 AM
Thinking of the media side, I'm a bit bored with how the show seems to live and die by jokes and pop culture references as of late.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Malicieuse on December 23, 2013, 03:28:24 AM
Thinking of the media side, I'm a bit bored with how the show seems to live and die by jokes and pop culture references as of late.

Agreed. Too many repetitive themes too.
It's not a popular opinion but i think the show needs new characters. How many more episodes do we need about Fluttershy learning to "stop" being shy, Dash doing something sportsy, Pinkie being "lulz so random!1!", Rarity doing something fashion related, Applejack doing something family related and Twilight going "OMG BOOKS". Than again, i never considered any of the characters to really evolve or to be deep.
I did enjoy the "Power Ponies" though. Just because it was something different.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: prancingstag on December 23, 2013, 03:42:08 AM
Thinking of the media side, I'm a bit bored with how the show seems to live and die by jokes and pop culture references as of late.

Agreed. Too many repetitive themes too.
It's not a popular opinion but i think the show needs new characters. How many more episodes do we need about Fluttershy learning to "stop" being shy, Dash doing something sportsy, Pinkie being "lulz so random!1!", Rarity doing something fashion related, Applejack doing something family related and Twilight going "OMG BOOKS". Than again, i never considered any of the characters to really evolve or to be deep.
I did enjoy the "Power Ponies" though. Just because it was something different.

It's funny that you mention this when the next three episodes of FiM are going to be core character trait centric.

Spoiler
Episode 7: Oh no y'all, the Apple farm is under attack! // Fluttershy tries to stand up and voice her opinion

Episode 8: fashion fashion fashion rarity designer fashion fashion darling

Episode 9: Yee-haw Apple family roadtrip!!!

 :lol:
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Salli on December 23, 2013, 03:42:51 AM
I was at TRU on Friday, shopping for gifts for my son and nephew and I always cruise through the girls section to see if they have anything interesting in dolls and ponies. There were, of course, people everywhere. All carts were in use. Lines, lines and more lines. Nearly empty shelves trashed and sale signs dotting just about every aisle....

Except the pony aisle. Fully stocked with the stuff everyone (including kids) already has. No sale signs. No one was shopping the pony aisle. And it's not because people here don't buy ponies.

Hasbro, please stop putting your effort into coming up with bigger and noisier toys. MORE characters, please. And Dear Santa, can I please have a brushable Big Mac???

Also, I think the better question is: Is anyone NOT bored with the g4 brushable line (or lack thereof)???
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on December 23, 2013, 03:53:05 AM


Hasbro, please stop putting your effort into coming up with bigger and noisier toys. MORE characters, please. And Dear Santa, can I please have a brushable Big Mac???

Also, I think the better question is: Is anyone NOT bored with the g4 brushable line (or lack thereof)???

YES, I am getting tired of all the button pushing, lights blinking, magic movement ugly junk that makes ponies continue to look cheaply made.

And YES, a Big Mac, with brushable hair would be awesome, not troll hair, not a mohawk....just a fashion style size with nice long hair...

Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: elish2 on December 23, 2013, 04:53:48 AM
I mainly buy the g4 line for my daughters. The Funko ponies I buy for myself because at least they have new characters each release.

I seriously have just stopped buying ponies for my daughters. Every time I go down the pony aisle at any store it is exactly the same characters...Rarity, AJ, Pinkie Pie, Twilight and maybe Fluttershy. I do not buy the exact same toys with just different accessories...in fact this crystal empire sets I did not buy any of them because it was the same 7 ponies just now with tinsel! ohhh such a big change! It just meant that I would just add another one of the same old same old to their collections...

The Midnight at Canterlot I did not buy for them even because they already had all the same ponies in that set. I did get the FiM Collectors set because...oh my goodness...new characters!
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: alkevin on December 23, 2013, 04:55:55 AM
That´s a good thing that our stores receive much later. Just this Christmas we received the pack with Celestia&pinkie pie, Luna & Rarity. And On Friday I saw Sunset Shimmer. I´m bored with this line because is always the same mane 6. And when they put new ones is always in a pack. Dam it Hasbro. So many characters to choose. That is why I love the mini Funko, but why are their bodies black?
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Deep Purple Crystal on December 23, 2013, 05:05:56 AM
This is really firing up now. People everywhere are starting petitions to make more characters and more. I'm personally tired of weird giant robot toys that blink and say 'I'm a princess! Because I'm one PLEASE buy me!' I guess that because the bronies are their new focus, the bronies don't care about a pony doll with nice brushable hair. And even the bronies are fed up!

I fear this will lead to another 'core 7' like the end of G3.

I also don't mind princesses, just as long as we get different ones and NOT THE SAME FOUR OVER AGAIN.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Al-1701 on December 23, 2013, 05:46:17 AM
I fear this will lead to another 'core 7' like the end of G3.
You talk like this hasn't happened already.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Aquatic Neon on December 23, 2013, 05:56:57 AM
Funko is the only thing keeping my G4 attention these days.
Agreed <3
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: sleepyowl on December 23, 2013, 06:46:46 AM
I'm so bored of it, to be honest. I'm not really into molded ponies, so the lack of new different brushables is a bummer. I've still been buying some of what they've been putting out, but there's nothing I'm excited to go get. MLP isn't my toy priority anymore. It doesn't help that it seems like the quality is really going downhill as well, with the dry frizzy tails and wonky eyes.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: cleverLC on December 23, 2013, 06:50:39 AM
There are a few things I want, but it seems like every time I go there's waaay too many of the mane 6, and no room for the other ponies.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Dashy77 on December 23, 2013, 06:55:35 AM
Funko is the only thing keeping my G4 attention these days.
Agreed <3

Man after my own <3! haha, brother from another mother.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: CupidStrikes on December 23, 2013, 07:17:54 AM
I feel like the toyline could also be improved if the merchandisers actually watched the FiM show. It's weird that they would put so much effort into fleshing out these unique characters and then when they make toys of them they all have this bland generic personality that is condensed into one sentence and their accessories are all fashion items (not referring to the hairbrushes, though a lot of brushable toys don't come with those now either!). Not that there's anything wrong with loving fashion but that's Rarity's thing and yet, oddly, she seems to get left out of it! This is worst with the talking toys (Pinkie Pie aside). It's like if all Woody toys said "LOOK AT MY HAT, AIN'T IT GREAT? I'M A COWBOY TEEHEE" instead of his lines from the film(s). It defeats the purpose of the toy if it doesn't even try to reflect the character it's portraying.

Don't get me started on the EqG dolls having this same-face uncanny valley thing going on and that they all have the same body shape, even Celestia! And what is with the QC lately? Did they fire their entire quality team or something? I've never seen a single EqG doll that hasn't had some glaring flaw in some way (usually covered in glue or missing a lot of paint, and a lot have scars all over their joints) and lately the majority of ponies on shelves have had major issues or are filthy even in the box. New toys shouldn't be dirty!
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Zapper on December 23, 2013, 07:39:14 AM
(Meanwhile Hasbro is making a dozen new figures for Transformer fans based on random (also awesome) background IDW comic book characters)

/end-rant

:sad:

The reason for this crap is that they think male fans buy more merchandise and figures than female fans and Transformers is still kinda male-dominated (even though there was an explosion of female fans during the last few years). They don't seem to acknowledge that female 'nerds' take collecting and fandom just as serious as male ones. Case in point: they started catering to Bronies even though Bronies only make up a part of all MLP fans. But Bronies to them are "adult male fans of MLP" and being male automatically catapults them into the "power buyer" category. What did the regular fans of MLP get before the Bronies? A SDCC exclusive and that was that.
And just to be perfectly clear, I'm not bashing Bronies and I don't intend to start a Brony discussion. I'm bashing Hasbro and their third party sellers for treating the other MLP fans as lesser consumers.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Majesty on December 23, 2013, 07:57:15 AM
Yeah I'm bored with the toys but I still watch the show.  It's really rare that I get a G4.  If they made other ponies besides the mane 6 I might be more interested.  Yeah, Hasbro still aims their MLP stuff for little girls but even little girls must get bored of seeing the same 6 ponies each new release.

I'm also not a fan of blind bags.  Hasbro makes so many blind bags that aren't mane 6 and I don't understand why they don't make them into actual brushables.  >_<
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Malicieuse on December 23, 2013, 08:40:59 AM
I feel like the toyline could also be improved if the merchandisers actually watched the FiM show. It's weird that they would put so much effort into fleshing out these unique characters and then when they make toys of them they all have this bland generic personality that is condensed into one sentence and their accessories are all fashion items (not referring to the hairbrushes, though a lot of brushable toys don't come with those now either!). Not that there's anything wrong with loving fashion but that's Rarity's thing and yet, oddly, she seems to get left out of it! This is worst with the talking toys (Pinkie Pie aside). It's like if all Woody toys said "LOOK AT MY HAT, AIN'T IT GREAT? I'M A COWBOY TEEHEE" instead of his lines from the film(s). It defeats the purpose of the toy if it doesn't even try to reflect the character it's portraying.

Don't get me started on the EqG dolls having this same-face uncanny valley thing going on and that they all have the same body shape, even Celestia! And what is with the QC lately? Did they fire their entire quality team or something? I've never seen a single EqG doll that hasn't had some glaring flaw in some way (usually covered in glue or missing a lot of paint, and a lot have scars all over their joints) and lately the majority of ponies on shelves have had major issues or are filthy even in the box. New toys shouldn't be dirty!

I don't care about show accuracy myself. The way people scream "this character wouldn't wear/do that thing, so that toy is stupid!" seems very limiting to me. In fact, i feel the show limits the toyline in general.
The reason we are stuck with about 6 characters is because those are the main characters. If the show helps to sell those well enough why would Hasbro bother making other characters?

I actually wish the toyline would move away from the show...
Have Hasbro create new characters and new designs that are not necessarily linked to it, just like back in 2010/2011. It's not like the show has been that marvelous when it comes to pony designs anyways. Simple /recycled cutie marks and a lack of multicolored manes and all that.(That's why i like the Equestria Girls line. It kinda does its own thing for now. Including crazy rainbow colored rock outfits!)

About those talking ponies...they don't seem to do well over here but i blame their high prices. I have to admit though, those Nightmare Moon phrases are too funny for me to get angry about it. Who doesn't want an evil moon pony that talks about her pretty barrettes?
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Twilight Pink on December 23, 2013, 08:58:52 AM
I don't care about show accuracy myself. The way people scream "this character wouldn't wear/do that thing, so that toy is stupid!" seems very limiting to me. In fact, i feel the show limits the toyline in general.
The reason we are stuck with about 6 characters is because those are the main characters. If the show helps to sell those well enough why would Hasbro bother making other characters?

I actually wish the toyline would move away from the show...
Have Hasbro create new characters and new designs that are not necessarily linked to it, just like back in 2010/2011. It's not like the show has been that marvelous when it comes to pony designs anyways. Simple /recycled cutie marks and a lack of multicolored manes and all that.(That's why i like the Equestria Girls line. It kinda does its own thing for now. Including crazy rainbow colored rock outfits!)
Agreed :P
The MLP:FiM show is the death of the G4 line... (and its fanbase isn't helping  :hmm: )
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Kaeldre on December 23, 2013, 08:59:17 AM
I'm bored with the show and some of the toys.  The molded figure sets are the only things keeping my attention right now.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: CupidStrikes on December 23, 2013, 09:09:20 AM

I don't care about show accuracy myself. The way people scream "this character wouldn't wear/do that thing, so that toy is stupid!" seems very limiting to me. In fact, i feel the show limits the toyline in general.
The reason we are stuck with about 6 characters is because those are the main characters. If the show helps to sell those well enough why would Hasbro bother making other characters?

I actually wish the toyline would move away from the show...
Have Hasbro create new characters and new designs that are not necessarily linked to it, just like back in 2010/2011. It's not like the show has been that marvelous when it comes to pony designs anyways. Simple /recycled cutie marks and a lack of multicolored manes and all that.(That's why i like the Equestria Girls line. It kinda does its own thing for now. Including crazy rainbow colored rock outfits!)

About those talking ponies...they don't seem to do well over here but i blame their high prices. I have to admit though, those Nightmare Moon phrases are too funny for me to get angry about it. Who doesn't want an evil moon pony that talks about her pretty barrettes?

I don't mind the hair length thing (I love being able to toy with their manes and give them different hair styles) but they come with accessories that just aren't very inspiring for play or display. AJ has only come with her hat in what, one of her releases? None of them have ever been released in an outfit they have worn in the show (I can't be the only one who would love to deck her ponies out in their Grand Galloping Gala outfits!). Why not release Rainbow Dash with her whistle and goggles? Or books and a telescope with Twilight? Why was Rarity released with a scooter and not Scootaloo? That's the kinda thing I mean. Though it boggles my mind the brushies that are released without a brush or comb 0_o if that's a kid's first brushie, Hasbro, what are they gonna brush their hair with?  :cry: There's all this potential for them to tie stuff into the show and they just waste it by giving them random cheap-looking dresses and purses (though the dress on my Luna FS is very, very pretty, must admit. Cadence's is so ugly though >.<), etc.

Oooh I've not seen the NMM one, must admit, but as well as expensive I find those toys kinda...creepy? That huge TS thing moves in the most terrifying way ._. her eyes are always watching, always staring...And I agree the price is likely the problem - they're constantly on sale here and even then they're expensive, about the same price as a couple of DVDs and a kid is likely to get more entertainment out of DVDs (especially if they like to watch the same one over and over and over like my sisters did!)
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Lorelei Redfern on December 23, 2013, 02:29:02 PM
i'm a  bit fed up withthe same ponys over and over..   and there like "oh  people will buy them anyway"   yeah i   did   buy the through the mirror sunset shimmer cause she looks cool  but  agian its not a main  6.  dont you think they'd learn that people want different   ponys not the    same   mane  6 with different accesorys.   its liek the new rainbow power line.  oh  just becuase it  has rainbow ocloered tinsel you "have to get it"  shoot i go to wallmart and i see   about 50  pricness twiligth sparkle and   50 pricness cadance   fashions tlye dolls some of the overpriced    castles.    and     the giant twilight thats  too expensive.  adn a ton  of the  4.00 mane  six. and the  2 packs with  the pricness and one of the  mane 6. if your expecting us to sell otu a lot of money at least have the QC to back it up.

hoenstly i would love to have new  ponys but i doubt were gettign them becuas there  proably goign to shift there focus from brushables to blind bags.. becuase thre cheaper and easier to make  and for soem reaon a lot  of   people like tem. (i'm not a blind bag fan)   

i think this whole line stated out as Core 7. and ocsanially they'll add a new pony in.  the deisgn a ponys are cool and i'd  love to see ddifernet ones. but we need more boy ponys. not the same ponys. i really hacvnt had a desire to buy anyhtign new..    i   was excited to find the spitfire in TRU awhile back.

Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Deep Purple Crystal on December 23, 2013, 03:52:06 PM
I miss the Shine Bright ponies. Can't Hasbro make more stuff like those these days?
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: iluvponiez on December 24, 2013, 02:58:36 AM
I admit I didn't read the entire thread so forgive me if this was already mentioned. But what I never understand is that they bother to give the ponies distinctive hairstyles in the new cartoon, but not on the toys.

It. It just sort of irks me. Laziness.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Twilight Pink on December 24, 2013, 03:04:00 AM
I admit I didn't read the entire thread so forgive me if this was already mentioned. But what I never understand is that they bother to give the ponies distinctive hairstyles in the new cartoon, but not on the toys.

It. It just sort of irks me. Laziness.
I think MLPs are meant for creative play. And just giving them their standard hairstyles in the show is boring :s you can style the hair, that's why they have hair :P
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Al-1701 on December 24, 2013, 03:36:39 AM
I admit I didn't read the entire thread so forgive me if this was already mentioned. But what I never understand is that they bother to give the ponies distinctive hairstyles in the new cartoon, but not on the toys.

It. It just sort of irks me. Laziness.
I think MLPs are meant for creative play. And just giving them their standard hairstyles in the show is boring :s you can style the hair, that's why they have hair :P
That's what I was thinking.  The point was you could give your pony her (or his) own distinctive look based on your imagination and change it as you wish.  How they look in the show is just one way their hair can be styled.

Though, the G4 playful style toys do look silly with how much hair that have.  It lays flat on the ground.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: iluvponiez on December 24, 2013, 04:23:21 AM
Sorry, I should've clarified- I meant more on the ones with moulded hair, not the brushables.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: hathorcat on December 24, 2013, 04:26:48 AM
(Meanwhile Hasbro is making a dozen new figures for Transformer fans based on random (also awesome) background IDW comic book characters)

/end-rant

:sad:

The reason for this crap is that they think male fans buy more merchandise and figures than female fans and Transformers is still kinda male-dominated (even though there was an explosion of female fans during the last few years). They don't seem to acknowledge that female 'nerds' take collecting and fandom just as serious as male ones. Case in point: they started catering to Bronies even though Bronies only make up a part of all MLP fans. But Bronies to them are "adult male fans of MLP" and being male automatically catapults them into the "power buyer" category. What did the regular fans of MLP get before the Bronies? A SDCC exclusive and that was that.
And just to be perfectly clear, I'm not bashing Bronies and I don't intend to start a Brony discussion. I'm bashing Hasbro and their third party sellers for treating the other MLP fans as lesser consumers.

We also used to get a Fair exclusive and we got a selection of Art ponies in addition to the SDCC exclusive. Pre FiM and pre bronies, Hasbro catered much better to adult female fans much better than they do now.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: lovesbabysquirmy on December 24, 2013, 05:43:19 AM
Does it count if I have been bored with G4 since they showed us the character design?  :( 
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Al-1701 on December 24, 2013, 06:10:03 AM
Does it count if I have been bored with G4 since they showed us the character design?  :(
Wouldn't that be more of a "I don't like it to begin with" mentality?

Admittedly, I would like to see MLP to go back to looking more like ponies.  I know it's not as conducive to the rubber hose physics and cartoon expressions of Friendship is Magic, but they're supposed to be ponies.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Silver_mirror46 on December 25, 2013, 03:19:43 AM
I'm resigned to collect only FS sized ponies (I hate the regular size... they're so tiny!... and hard to style) and as for normals perhaps a few characters I like and every iteration of Rainbow Dash for my growing army and only if she has a significant difference between issues (like normal vs glimmer wings and crystal motion)
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Twilight Pink on December 25, 2013, 06:08:34 AM
Does it count if I have been bored with G4 since they showed us the character design?  :(
Wouldn't that be more of a "I don't like it to begin with" mentality?

Admittedly, I would like to see MLP to go back to looking more like ponies.  I know it's not as conducive to the rubber hose physics and cartoon expressions of Friendship is Magic, but they're supposed to be ponies.
Agreed :P
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Al-1701 on December 25, 2013, 06:14:34 AM
Does it count if I have been bored with G4 since they showed us the character design?  :(
Wouldn't that be more of a "I don't like it to begin with" mentality?

Admittedly, I would like to see MLP to go back to looking more like ponies.  I know it's not as conducive to the rubber hose physics and cartoon expressions of Friendship is Magic, but they're supposed to be ponies.
Agreed :P
Actually, I wouldn't mind getting away from the over the top cartoon antics and expressions of Friendship is Magic.  The novelty has worn off.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: lovesbabysquirmy on December 26, 2013, 01:57:56 AM
Does it count if I have been bored with G4 since they showed us the character design?  :(
Wouldn't that be more of a "I don't like it to begin with" mentality?

Admittedly, I would like to see MLP to go back to looking more like ponies.  I know it's not as conducive to the rubber hose physics and cartoon expressions of Friendship is Magic, but they're supposed to be ponies.

Hahaha, somewhat yes.  It has been a really boring 3-4 years of MLP released in stores for me.  :) 

I would like to see a toyline that isn't tied to a cartoon in some way.  I realize that's insane but I don't want the same pop culture treatment that MLP has gotten in recent years. 
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Al-1701 on December 26, 2013, 02:06:38 AM
Frankly, I would like to see an MLP cartoon that was given the same respect as Transformers Prime.  It didn't need the injection of pop culture and in-jokes to be a very engaging story.  Though, I'm ready to see My Little Pony shed the slice of life label completely (which would take much of the pop culture crap with it) and return to being a high fantasy series.  Girls like action and adventure too.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: achab1984 on December 26, 2013, 06:46:45 AM
I was not a few months ago, but I am now. There is nothing new and they are all the same ponies. The new Rainbow Rarity is in the store now. But I am not sure if I want to get her. I have the other one that is not the rainbow. I will have to wait and see when the other rainbow ponies come out in the spring. But right now I have almost no interest in any of them :( 
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: EmBee on December 26, 2013, 09:18:36 AM
One of the main reasons why we keep seeing the same ponies is because they are the stars of the TV show.  Although Hasbro has finally branched out and included some side characters (though most are not brushables), we aren't seeing enough newcomers on the show to warrant a full wave of different ponies.  If they would just introduce more ponies like they did on the show in the 80s it would be great.  New groups of pegs, unicorns, etc. coming to town... sigh.

-Em
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: WrittenEmber on December 26, 2013, 10:55:24 AM
I adore the little blind bag minifigures, so I am thrilled with that part of the line. So many ponies! And although it's true that most of them are made from the same handful of molds, there are unique molds too, and that adds a bit of variety and helps break things up.

When it comes to brushables, I came late to the game and missed out on pretty much all of the unique singles. I've only ever seen Mane 6 singles in any of the stores in my area, and haven't really felt compelled to pick them up. Eventually I will put together a set of the Mane 6, but there's no hurry since they are so omnipresent. If I saw something remarkably different or unique, I would snap that up. (I'm thinking of getting a Glitter Wisteria from Target, and maybe her Glitter Pinkie pal, just because they are the only glitter brushables I've seen and thus more interesting than the rest of the ponies on offer.)

The thing I like about lots of unique ponies is that they come, they go, and you get some and some you don't get and it makes it exciting and fun. When it's just the same few over and over, well, you know you can have them all without any real difficulty, and so can everyone else so nobody's going to want to trade. So you get them and then you're done. You have them. No more hopefully perusing the toy aisle, no more trades, no more thrill of finding a pony and feeling so lucky and proud to have tracked it down... (Luckily I'm super into the blind bags and thus still get to do all of these things with them.)

Plus, I like to buy and re-sell ponies to make a bit of profit to balance out what I spend on the ponies in my personal collection, and when nothing is hard to find and nobody particularly wants what's coming out, well... :(

Still, I would not say that I'm bored. I'd just like to see more new ponies (singles, not sets). Not only for my own personal interest, but for the health of the brand, as well.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: lonewolf on December 26, 2013, 11:14:52 PM
 Anymore it seems like the only brushables stores have are the masquerade ones (to think: about 5 months ago I couldn't get ahold of the Sunset Shimmer one. Now she's all over the place), and the gimmick sets. Plus copious amounts of wave 7 and 8 BB's. I've only seen the rainbow power ones at Target (and they were on display near the cash registers :blink: ). Guess I'm glad I got a few of those other brushables when they came out.

 I still haven't bought any EqG dolls because I still don't like how their heads look. They're too tall and the pony ears I could do without (maybe Funko will do show accurate ones soon).  Speaking of the Funkos: I'm almost caught up. I need Pinkie, Vinyl, and Bon Bon now. The Celestia they're working on could be pretty good (though they better do Luna right afterwards).

 With all of the new blind bag sets coming out (still looking for the Chrysalis one), I haven't gotten too bored yet. I do agree there should be a little more variety, including male brushables. And definitely use a different mold because to me the Shining Armor one looks kind of weird. I guess time will tell.

Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: sd_dreamcrystal on December 27, 2013, 02:22:53 AM
One of the main reasons why we keep seeing the same ponies is because they are the stars of the TV show.  Although Hasbro has finally branched out and included some side characters (though most are not brushables), we aren't seeing enough newcomers on the show to warrant a full wave of different ponies.  If they would just introduce more ponies like they did on the show in the 80s it would be great.  New groups of pegs, unicorns, etc. coming to town... sigh.

-Em
Actually I believe at some point someone mentioned Hasbro mostly releasing main 6 mostly for those who are just now becoming new customers, which while makes sense, without some new blood they are losing a larger buying base of existing customers.. I'm sure if they actually made a new wave with new characters those characters would probably fly off the shelves faster than boring 6
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: CottonTALE on December 27, 2013, 02:42:58 AM
I am starting to get bored with the G4 line too. Although I get excited with releases of Fluttershy, I really want some new brushables. After all, that is what made the brand in the first place! I don't care if they are in the same pose, it is just a matter of painting on a new symbol and a different assortment of hair. Heck, they could re-use their copyrights on their blind-bag figures to make new brushables.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Al-1701 on December 27, 2013, 02:49:37 AM
One of the main reasons why we keep seeing the same ponies is because they are the stars of the TV show.  Although Hasbro has finally branched out and included some side characters (though most are not brushables), we aren't seeing enough newcomers on the show to warrant a full wave of different ponies.  If they would just introduce more ponies like they did on the show in the 80s it would be great.  New groups of pegs, unicorns, etc. coming to town... sigh.

-Em
Actually I believe at some point someone mentioned Hasbro mostly releasing main 6 mostly for those who are just now becoming new customers, which while makes sense, without some new blood they are losing a larger buying base of existing customers.. I'm sure if they actually made a new wave with new characters those characters would probably fly off the shelves faster than boring 6
That's why it would make sense to release the Main 6 as a part of a larger wave.  That way new fans can find the stars, but there would be other ponies for those who already have the Mane 6.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Aquatic Neon on December 27, 2013, 03:07:22 AM
Funko is the only thing keeping my G4 attention these days.
Agreed <3

Man after my own <3! haha, brother from another mother.
Haha wow that's weird I was going to say brother from another mother in another post of yours! I seriously cannot wait any longer for new prototypes..... The darn minis slowed them down :(
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: starflyer425 on December 27, 2013, 04:47:03 AM
i love g4, and i still do. but... you were doing so well hasbro. come on, i want another NEW pony! something like feathermay, or flitterheart, or snowcatcher... NOT MORE PINKIES. i dont need that many mane 6 ponies, its beginning to look like the changelings have invaded my shelf.

its really simple to understand, and they've done it in the past so i dont know why there stopping. kids dont LIKE repeats. because that's what they are, repetitive. you cant play or make a story with this, it get boring after a while, and i know.

just take, i dont know, rainbow dash. change the body color to light green or something. give her magenta hair. maybe a pink streak in there, you have plenty of pink nylon. put a symbol on. a cat, or a beach ball, or... anything, really.


BAM. you have a new horse that people will enjoy adding to their shelf.


end of rant. :rant:
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Baby_Ponies2014 on December 27, 2013, 05:00:17 AM
It almost hurts me to say this, but, g4 has me bored beyond repair :(
I seriously don't even care if they put out new charcters, I just wanna grab my fashion style ponies and run on my merry way to g5!
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: OLumeVaSti on December 27, 2013, 05:03:31 AM
I actually packed mine all away accept DewDrop Dazzle and my fashion style Rarity. I just decided one day, it is worth collecting them anymore. I am focusing back on G1.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: G4Sweeties on December 28, 2013, 12:41:40 PM
I know.. It's sad really. I wish that they would be a little more creative with them..


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Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Twizel on December 29, 2013, 06:32:40 AM
You know, I didn't like G4 when they started, but the cartoon made me lighten up because the first season was so great. However, the G4 toys have always been too expensive. I picked up three for customizing, and the glow-in-the-dark Zecora, and the glitter blind bags. But since then, there's just been nothing. It's all repeated, rehashed, etc. I also am not a fan of the humanesque PonyBratz thing they did. I feel like that's where they're trying to move their market, and I don't want any part of it. I too wish they could do something original, creative, and not charge us more money for a cheaper, smaller product.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: partypony566 on January 03, 2014, 08:09:35 AM
I've been bored of it since about 2 weeks in to be honest.

Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: anthologia on January 04, 2014, 06:49:45 AM
Bored here, too. I like the blind bags and still buy some of them, but the last new single release was what, Wysteria?
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: CupcakeLoverXx on January 04, 2014, 07:09:08 AM
Outside of exclusives,I think the only new pony that was released in 2013 was Sunset Shimmer! That's pathetic!
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: CupidStrikes on January 04, 2014, 07:47:06 AM
Having seen the official art of the ~rainbowfied~ ponies I gotta say - if the Rainbow Power brushables actually LOOKED like that, with the different streaks of colour and the rainbow marks on them,....then I'd buy them. I would. I think the rainbowfied versions look really neat but alas :( At least the Rainbowfied blind bags look like them...
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Nightbow on January 09, 2014, 05:03:16 AM
I'm contemplating writing a sincere email to Hasbro, but I can't get their email since Internet insists of sending me to their swedish site. I wanna hit where it hurts. :P Can someone help me out?
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: RainbowAlicorn999 on January 09, 2014, 05:13:57 AM
There's a product help site where you can email them. ^^
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Winter Bones on January 10, 2014, 12:07:39 AM
I'm contemplating writing a sincere email to Hasbro, but I can't get their email since Internet insists of sending me to their swedish site. I wanna hit where it hurts. :P Can someone help me out?

This link (http://www.hasbro.com/worldwide) should bring you to the locale selector. If you click on US and click customer service, it'll let you make an account on the US site and send them an email.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: CottonTALE on January 10, 2014, 01:06:35 AM
I am hoping for some new brushables from the show, especially ones from the "Rarity Takes Manehattan" episode (being a fashion designer at heart, it really hit home for me :P) Heck, they could do a Fashonista line! Who wouldn't love one of these as a brushable?

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Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Nightbow on January 10, 2014, 01:41:03 AM
Thank you.
Wow, it took many clicks to get to "Email Us". But I don't have a login. Well, maybe later.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Al-1701 on January 10, 2014, 02:18:59 AM
Well, there's apparently going to be a fifth season of FiM (or at least they're beginning to lay the groundwork for it).  Not sure how optimistic I am about this.  Season 4 has been a bit too off the wall suggesting the staff is running out of real ideas as it is.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Sapphire-Light on January 10, 2014, 04:48:31 AM
In the spa set, I can't believe how they missed the chance to make the spa sisters Aloe and Lotus  :cry: the set is really cute, but what ge got instead?ANOTHER Pinkie Pie  >_< and this one is giving a bath to Fluttershy that doesn't even have sence.

That set was almost like an entire year in shelves until it was at 70% they were sold.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: babylofty on January 11, 2014, 04:24:04 AM
I have stopped buying brushables all together. I think the last sets I bought were Luna and Celestia that came with Rarity and Pinkie and that was months ago.

I'm concentrating solely on the blind bags and the 3 pack blind bags sets. The babysitting one was pure joy. I love those Cake babies! I just picked up one of the Funko minis and of course I would get my least liked Pony, she-who-shall-not-be-named. I'll keep her, but just because I intend to get the entire set anyway. :P

Edit: I forgot, I do want the Rainbow Dash as Shadowbolt figure, so there is that.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Nightbow on January 14, 2014, 07:46:25 AM
The small figure sets are much too expensive. I think the Cake family is precious but with that price tag; no way José!
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: RarityDash on January 14, 2014, 08:19:40 AM
I have given up on G4 brushables all together for the time being. Last week I got bit by the G1 bug and it's now my top priority to collect what I see and can afford. If they released new brushables I might buy them, but whenever they do it's in a pack with another Pinkie Pie or Twilight Sparkle, so I spend money to add to my accidental pinkie army.  :) Sometimes I wish G4 had the variety of the previous gens. I had 40 G3's as a kid and not a single duplicate
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: G4Sweeties on January 14, 2014, 08:24:46 AM
The problem isn't the diversity, I've seen tons of non-mane 6, that is, ON THE INTERNET. They need to actually like I don't know, make them more mass produced? I have only seen the wedding singles ONCE in my entire pony collecting life. What the hay, Hasbro? Also they need to get more imaginative with their playsets. That cardboard castle ain't gonna cut it!

Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: babylicketysplit on January 14, 2014, 08:29:12 AM
honestly the price tags are whats hurting me the most as well as lack of selection.  im sorry but the new fashion style fluttershy (with extra long hair!... to which i would cut off anyway to make manageable lol) is 25$ here locally at my target.  my jaw nearly hit the floor.  i am NOT pay nearly 30 dollars after taxes for one pony the size of a regular g1 with some extra length hair.  no way.  as much as i want a fashion size fluttershy since i missed out on her first time around, i am not paying that much with my severe budget right now.

also the cake babies set i really want too, but its about 20 bucks at toys r us AND target!  what is with the expensive price tags?  they are teeny tiny.   just 5 years or so ago when g3 was still on the shelves i could get a regular sized (or in g4s case "fashion style" sized) for 5 bucks >:(    i know it is as much the retailer to blame here as hasbro. but i dont see even with inflation rates and LESS plastic and packaging that the prices would jump so dang high.   its the same with their littlest pet shop line. people pay 6 bucks or so for one little pet and if their lucky  maybe a crappy platic accessory.   :(
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: reanna-mator on January 14, 2014, 09:56:30 AM
Kinda getting there, yeah.

Babylicketysplit, I felt the same way about the new FS Fluttershy. She's nice and all but that price tag is ridiculous. And yet I bought her... T_T I know that Hasbro won't change the way they operate unless they feel a need to, but I also want to pick up the toys that appeal to me.

At least it's merciful on my bank account at the moment. If we were getting the sort of variation and creative explosion like early in G3 I'd be agonizing over not being able to afford them all...
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: shindow on January 14, 2014, 10:39:55 AM
That's inflation for you.  :lookround: In a similar fashion, most 1/8 Scale anime statues were around $50 a few years ago, now they are a minimum of about $80... Skyrocketing gas and postage prices are a factor, too.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Star Spark on January 14, 2014, 11:45:57 AM
In a word... YES!

At the risk of sounding like a broken record (I've brought it up a few times, but it really irks me as it does so many others) I'm sick of the same six characters and the only new ones being in expensive sets (that usually contain dupes of the Mane 6.) I don't have any interest in Equestria Girls dolls; I collect ponies and other animal figures (always have.) I would love to buy singles of new brushables (either those on the show outside of the Mane 6, call-backs to prior gens, or just unique looking original characters) but if Hasbro's not going to give me that option, my money is better spent elsewhere.

Sadly, our opinions generally don't matter, as adult collectors (bronies and non-bronies alike) aren't the target demographic. It'll only be when children and their parents stop buying these endless re-releases that anyone will notice, and even then it's a toss-up between whether Hasbro will correctly ascertain that the line needs more variety or will just assume that no one wants brushable ponies at all and end it entirely.

(On a related note, I was in TRU around the holidays and overheard a mother and young daughter talking in the pony aisle- the daughter wanted a set with Fluttershy in it and was adamant that she had a different amount of butterflies on her cutie mark and was thus "different" than what she already had; her mother assured her that they were identical and they left without buying anything.) 
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: SeashellnBubbles on January 14, 2014, 01:34:01 PM
All of this crap about ponies that aren't in the show...who CARES if they're in the damned show!? There were way more G1 ponies than were ever in the movies or TV shows and that didn't harm their sales at all! They were able to use a lot of the same mods but with different accents, like the TE ponies, TAf ponies, posey pose etc. I'm so sick of everyone always saying they have to be oriented to the show! It stifles children's natural creativity, just like they don't make regular amorphous Leggos now: they're all Star Wars or battle ships or whatever. I made a battleship out of Leggo when i was a kid...hell ya it looked like crap and was all kinds of different colors, but the ponies had some wicked battles against the Transformers and GI Joe on it! All it is is sheer laziness on Hasbro's part for not being more creatively broad in their designs and moulds. There. I said it.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: MorningGlorysParadise82 on January 14, 2014, 05:21:48 PM
For me I was sad to see the same 6 ponies on shelves when just 2 years ago they had like 12! I made a point to buy the masked sunset shimmer because she was NOT pinkie pie or twilight. My DD9 is really getting into ponys again but I am not buying her the same pony over and over. I wish she had gained this interest before now as buying her more would be easier...

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Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: HoustonCollector72 on January 14, 2014, 06:22:37 PM
Mrs Cakes , Minty :) and the new fillies :)


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Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Al-1701 on January 14, 2014, 08:52:40 PM
All of this crap about ponies that aren't in the show...who CARES if they're in the damned show!? There were way more G1 ponies than were ever in the movies or TV shows and that didn't harm their sales at all! They were able to use a lot of the same mods but with different accents, like the TE ponies, TAf ponies, posey pose etc. I'm so sick of everyone always saying they have to be oriented to the show! It stifles children's natural creativity, just like they don't make regular amorphous Leggos now: they're all Star Wars or battle ships or whatever. I made a battleship out of Leggo when i was a kid...hell ya it looked like crap and was all kinds of different colors, but the ponies had some wicked battles against the Transformers and GI Joe on it! All it is is sheer laziness on Hasbro's part for not being more creatively broad in their designs and moulds. There. I said it.
Considering Equestria is supposedly a massive land with a population of millions, there should be no end to the possibilities for ponies.  However, with the brony craze making third party merchandise and molded hair figures popular, Hasbro seems to not be concentrating on brushables as much.  That seems stupid to me as it hurts the brand in the long term, but they don't seem to be thinking in the long term at the moment.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Zapper on January 15, 2014, 04:52:21 AM
Sadly, our opinions generally don't matter, as adult collectors (bronies and non-bronies alike) aren't the target demographic.

The Bronies have all the third party merch with their endless stream of molded hair versions of background ponies and popular ones. The SDCC exclusive being :muffin:, a character that was made popular by the Bronies, also the Bronies get big fat recognition from the writers and animators of FiM and the explosion of IDW comics is also due to them. I wouldn't say the Bronydom's opinions doesn't matter to Hasbro.
The only thing the older fans got were the little callbacks to older ponies that went over the Bronies' heads in earlier seasons (for example Twilight's mother looking exactly like G1 Twilight), Minty finally getting a brushie and maybe the upcoming episode about Breezies (if it's really going to be the Breezies and not some G3 joke).

For Hasbro listening to the older fans most of us would have to get a sex change, because men are seen as buyers of figures and merch, not women. That's where the nerd cliché affects them positively. Nowadays, older fans are seen as parents and girly girls who'll buy the stuff that is geared towards the target audience of little girls. We don't have the "nerd" status that would make us power buyers in the eyes of a toy company like Hasbro.
I do think the Minty brushie was made because they were aware of her popularitiy amongst G3 enthusiasts. I think she was the G3 pony who was drawn the most in G4 style by fanartists.
So yeah, maybe we need to become louder and more obnoxious and shower Hasbro with angry letters to get a wider range of brushies again. But I doubt they'd want to cater to us as much as they want to cater to Bronies. The Bronies are a safe market to them by now but will probably go away once the show gets cancelled, the older fans are the ones who will always be there and be faithful to the franchise so why change that tactic? ;)
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Star Spark on January 15, 2014, 05:22:57 AM
That's the thing, though- all the brony merch is licensed out, without Hasbro having much to do with it except demand occasionally that a new toy be included in the show (there's actually a decent amount of third party G1 stuff out there, too- cups and shirts and even sundresses. Many of the comic people were also G1 fans growing up and have introduced classic characters into G4.) The actual first party toys are geared pretty much entirely toward children, and brony opinion doesn't matter to them much more than that of older G1 and G3 collectors. Vocal bronies who dislike brushables aside, there's still a lot who collect them and want more characters, and if anything dislike of the Equestria Girls dolls is even higher among bronies than other fans. And in the end, I think EQ was the biggest "problem" last year- the main line got ignored to pursue this different market that most adult fans of any stripe don't really care for. There may certainly be something to the idea that Hasbro didn't care as much about the adult market until bronies came along (though even then, the media helped make it something they COULDN'T just ignore) but all they've really done is hand the license out to third parties, anyway. And honestly, if "listening" to fans' desire for Minty was putting her in an expensive playset with multiple Mane 6 dupes, that honestly feels even more disrespectful- that we can only have what we want if we're willing to pay ridiculous amounts of money for a single pony.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: prancingstag on January 15, 2014, 05:40:38 AM
Agree that Minty being released was a really half-hearted attempt to please collectors, even if it were truly their intention.

What's that you say? The fans would like to see their old favourites again? They'd like some variety and new faces in the toyline? Well, have I got just the treat for you! It's a new pony of a fan fave character! She comes with seven other ponies that you've already got and a bunch of recoloured accessories most people won't care for, so that we can minimise cost but still make a big set that we can slap a loaded price tag on. Also, the set is a store exclusive, so North American customers only please! Oh, and the store runs on a membership program, so unless you already have a means of access you're not allowed in the store. No, they don't care if you want to buy a pony, you're not allowed. As a final touch, distribution numbers are variable! Isn't that fun? Your local store may have continuing stock of this set. They may receive one shipment and never restock. Or they may never carry the set in the first place! Happy hunting!

To be honest, that felt like Hasbro saying "You want Minty? Alright, here's your flipping Minty. Go rip your hair out and never send us feedback demanding characters again."

[language edit ~ many thanks ~ hathorcat]
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: CupidStrikes on January 15, 2014, 05:56:52 AM
Hasbro have made it quite clear they don't give a flying unicorn about fans or markets outside North America, sadly  :cry:
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: shockponie on January 15, 2014, 05:57:03 AM
Yes, and my money is going directly to the competition. Last year I bought like 20-something Monster High Dolls from Mattel and 2 brushables from Hasbro. You snooze, you lose! Mattel will keep getting my money because they keep releasing cool new designs & characters. Hasbro should take a page from them.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Al-1701 on January 15, 2014, 06:17:25 AM
Hasbro have made it quite clear they don't give a flying unicorn about fans or markets outside North America, sadly  :cry:
Which is ironic considering Europe is where G1 and G2 lasted the longest.

It would be interesting to sit down as an accountant with the people at Hasbro and learn what goes through their heads.  It seems like they're passing up potential revenue that would require minimal cost.  It's not like it costs that much extra to have some of a batch be new ponies.

Again, do you think a little girl will turn up her nose at a pony because they don't appear on a premium cable show?  No.  But mom or dad might be more willing to open their wallet to get a pony that isn't their seventeenth Pinkie Pie.

While the current model for MLP must be profitable, I highly doubt the brand is maximizing its earning potential.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: RainbowAlicorn999 on January 15, 2014, 08:44:24 AM
Little girls, collectors and bronies all want new brushable characters. Every time I get one of my little cousins a pony toy for Christmas or a birthday they tell me that they already have it and send it back to the store. They don't care that this one is rainbow or this is a through the mirror. They care about the CHARACTER. Not the stupid gimic they try to make them a little different. I am very disappointed in Hasbro for the lack of new ponies in the brushable line. I have stopped buying ponies and I am giving other toy companies my money.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: LuckyTwirlerina on January 15, 2014, 09:06:09 AM
Another aspect of absolute BOREDOM I see with the constant rereleases of only the main show characters is that it saps the opportunity for imagination right out of the kids toys, because, well, they're already tv show characters. Sure, every generation had a sprinkling of show-characterized ponies, but the vast majority were left up to the imagination and for PLAY. I feel as though the lost opportunity for imagination could be incredibly detrimental to young children in the long run. Isn't that an important part of childhood play?

So not only does everyone get stuck with a dozen Pinkies and Twilights, they're also pretty confined to pre-made characters which honestly sucks for people of any age and gender who like to mess about with their ponies.   :|
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Zapper on January 15, 2014, 09:40:22 AM
Hasbro have made it quite clear they don't give a flying unicorn about fans or markets outside North America, sadly  :cry:
Which is ironic considering Europe is where G1 and G2 lasted the longest.

Yeah, that's what I thought.
In the first year of FiM there were several Europe exclusive ponies and not just variants, exclusive characters. Even in Europe their prices skyrocketed!

Nowadays we don't even get in-show characters like the talking Nightmare Moon. I have never seen her in stores and online she was always an expensive import. We don't get the favorites sets even though Germany has the highest Brony population next to the UK. So they're even splitting one single target audience into "American" and "Other". It's just so weird.

Many toy companies are so behind on trends and the times in general. Equestria Girls were first marketed as dolls for older fans. They were showing cosplayers and humanized artworks when they pitched the idea and I thought EQG could turn out great. I constantly dfended the idea when other fans would complain.
But how did EQG turn out? Cheaply designed Monster High competition. They could have done something really cool with EQG had they really considered the older kids who love to cosplay. But they just wanted to cash in on Mattel's success.
It's like their "market research" is just sitting around and presenting the already made material to a bunch of kids who can then choose between Pinkie Pie A and Pinkie Pie B :P
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: CupidStrikes on January 15, 2014, 09:58:53 AM

Yeah, that's what I thought.
In the first year of FiM there were several Europe exclusive ponies and not just variants, exclusive characters. Even in Europe their prices skyrocketed!

I don't think a lot of Europe actually got them or got them widely, so that's why they're so expensive. At least US exclusives are fairly abundant so they re-sell for about retail if you don't buy them from scalpers. The UK never saw the Europe exclusives (I believe some showed up in a random store that gets leftover stock but I don't count that as a release) and my friends in Germany and the Netherlands were unable to find them in stores, either :huh: If you're gonna make something exclusive to a place, do it all together or not at all  :cry: (I do reserve my right to be bitter about the mountain of exclusive characters NA has had whilst we've had nothing :lol: )

And as for Equestria Girls...Ugh. Put them in their movie outfits at least, for the love of Celestia, and make them realistic or at least differing body types. Kinda ironic how the toys from a film that keeps saying "we're totally different and that's awesome!" all look exactly the same down to their creepy lipstick smiles...
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Zapper on January 15, 2014, 10:22:50 AM

Yeah, that's what I thought.
In the first year of FiM there were several Europe exclusive ponies and not just variants, exclusive characters. Even in Europe their prices skyrocketed!

I don't think a lot of Europe actually got them or got them widely, so that's why they're so expensive. At least US exclusives are fairly abundant so they re-sell for about retail if you don't buy them from scalpers. The UK never saw the Europe exclusives (I believe some showed up in a random store that gets leftover stock but I don't count that as a release) and my friends in Germany and the Netherlands were unable to find them in stores, either :huh: If you're gonna make something exclusive to a place, do it all together or not at all  :cry: (I do reserve my right to be bitter about the mountain of exclusive characters NA has had whilst we've had nothing :lol: )

Ouch, I didn't know about that! I saw all exclusives (except for Rainbow Flash) in stores but back then I kept telling myself not to buy new MLPs. I was just going back to G1s and I wanted to collect G1s only back then. Of course now I want to bite my own butt because I still miss Skywishes and a few years ago I saw her two-pack all the time.
The two-packs with Daisy Dreams and Star Swirls were also all over the place. I got Star Swirl for retail and was shocked when I saw her shooting up to 40€ on ebay within the second year.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Tropical_Sunset on January 16, 2014, 05:13:30 AM
Yep... completely bored with G4.  Which sucks, because I still really enjoy the show, and all of the new side characters in the show that Hasbro seems to think no one would buy a brushable of.  Even if they just reused the Shining Armor mold that they already have made for a few more boy unicorn characters (Prince Blueblood, Fancy Pants, Unicorn Guards, Twilight's dad, Comet Tail, Rising Star, Pinprick, etc...), I would be thrilled beyond belief.

In the spa set, I can't believe how they missed the chance to make the spa sisters Aloe and Lotus  :cry: the set is really cute, but what ge got instead?ANOTHER Pinkie Pie  >_< and this one is giving a bath to Fluttershy that doesn't even have sence.

That set was almost like an entire year in shelves until it was at 70% they were sold.


That REALLY bothered me, too.  How could they make a spa set and NOT include Aloe and Lotus Blossom?  They've even got pink in their designs.  What's the problem, Hasbro??

I just really want to see some new single brushable characters.  I think the last one was Minty, and I had to buy that huge, stupid repeat set to get her.  I go to the pony aisle nowadays pretty much only because Monster High is in the same aisle in some stores.  It's sad when nothing in the pony aisle interests me, even when it's all on sale.  There is just nothing for me to buy, with the exception of Funko releases because at least Funko is still releasing new characters.  Though I think Funko could be doing a little better, too.  I don't understand why 99% of G4 poses have to have all 4 hooves on the ground... It's so boring. 
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Tiffymh1fan on January 16, 2014, 05:21:23 AM
Bored is a understatement of the year
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: TinyShinyUnique on January 16, 2014, 05:49:17 AM
Maybe not bored, but frustrated. It's like Hasbro is repeating the same mistake they did with the Core 7 ponies. We all know how that ended.

Getting any exclusives that were supposedly made specially for Europe in another country than France or Germany was really hard. Basically, if you have the lines of stores that are the European equivalent of Target - the Tesco shops, you have a bigger percentage of possibility on getting the Target exclusives. Some of them. Sometimes. If you're lucky. I had to visit the Czech Republic to get the Wave 4 ponies and go to Austria for the Valentine Pinkie Pie and Easter Fluttershy. Nowadays when I want non mane-6 ponies or rather, ponies that aren't back from 2012 and aren't the mane-6, I have to buy them online from the shop suppliers who, in some cases, get their ponies from US.

And the actual ponies in shops are so expensive, it's crazy. One pony, a single, let's say Applejack from the first waves would cost around $20. The two-packs, for $35. The sets go for even more... Buying ponies from the US is sometimes even cheaper if you get a good deal and buy them in a lot. And getting ponies from Hong Kong / China is cheaper than that as well. Even the quality of them isn't that bad - considering some of the MIB ones I deboxed only to discover a lot of faults and some of the China-bought ones which looked pristine.

And the exclusive packs with Chrysalis and Minty? Never seen those. The favorites pack? Unattainable. Zecora, Shadowbolt Dash...? Nope. At least not in the shops in Poland. You have to buy ponies online.

Actually I'm at the point of giving up on G4's. I still haven't made myself to watch the whole season 3 or to get into the fourth season. I'm not into Funko ponies, or blind bags, because ponies for me have to have a brushable mane and tail. Sculpted things are great - but only for customs in my opinion, to make them more unique. Now I want to sell off many of my G4 brushables and that list is growing almost each minute as I look at my small G4 shelves. Who knows, in few years they might be a lot cheaper and more accessible. Many people who got into the fandom will get out of it probably and will start getting rid of stuff. I think I'll wait till then - I did mostly the same with G3's.     
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Al-1701 on January 16, 2014, 06:30:18 AM
I know some people say Hasbro went with the Core 7 and their current business model because it must be good business, but you have to remember this is the same company that thought killing off Optimus Prime was a good business move.

I'm afraid G4 in only the early stages of its 4th year is looking like an combination of the ends of both G1 and G3.  G1 was all about the gimmicks towards the end and G3 collapsed in on itself.  G4 has Friendship is Magic to keep it afloat and we know it'll be around for at least one more season after the current one, but who knows how well this season will end and the other will be.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: hathorcat on January 16, 2014, 07:00:07 AM
Do you mean G3 collapsed in on itself because of the core characters? So a lot of collectors fell a little out of love with the line? Financially the line was reasonably consistent throughout all years so it came more to a natural end than a self destructive one. And G1 had gimmicks throughout the whole line and the Euro ponies late in the line were largely missing any kind of gimmicks.

Also on exclusive ponies - believe it or not those are the decision of individual Hasbro subsidiaries. Hasbro US will have had little involvement [other than approval of design] of ponies like Rainbow Flash and Star Swirl. Bonus packs have traditionally been most popular in countries where the price of individual items is quite high. It's to allow Hasbro and retailers to charge the higher price but encourage purchase by making it look as though the pack has more in it. Thats why we see it in some European countries and in Australia/NZ.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: SaelaVe on January 16, 2014, 07:09:48 AM
I'm bored with the primary line of ponies, yes. Not only are they all recycles of the same six characters, but they're not even particularly pretty recycles. There's only a couple of ponies that I'm even interested in picking up at this point.

I'm still very excited about the Blind Bag minis and Funko collectibles, however. They offer a lot more variety and they're nicer-looking IMO.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: TinyShinyUnique on January 16, 2014, 07:57:32 AM
Do you mean G3 collapsed in on itself because of the core characters? So a lot of collectors fell a little out of love with the line? Financially the line was reasonably consistent throughout all years so it came more to a natural end than a self destructive one.

Out of curiosity, do you happen to know if the sales drop in the last year, especially when the G3,5 were introduced? And I mean only about the brushable ponies, not the Ponyville lines - I base it mostly on my own observation, but I assumed that with the Core 7 the sales did drop and the revamping of the characters was to also cut some costs - the same pony pose for the late G3's / early Core 7 ponies at least was that for me. Then the only Core-7 manufacturing and the new design seemed like bad idea financially - at least in my area those sets wouldn't sell well at all. The Ponyvilles were successful, but the brushables are still on sale in some places.   

What I meant though is that lacking the diversity in the G3 ponies after introducing hundreds of great designs made collectors upset with Hasbro - and now after the great success of the show and a new wave of fans who give $$ to Hasbro, I'm afraid the same thing is happening. Sure, maybe making collectors frustrated doesn't seem like much. But there are also parents who I guess will doubt that buying a pony which looks almost the same as the one their daughter/son already have is justified, especially with how the economy is nowadays. Add the inflation and it will seem that the pony is a bit more expensive than the similar one they bought 3 years ago... And it's not really theoretical - this comes from a conversation I had with my cousin after my mom joked that he should buy more ponies for his daughter because she loves them. He stated that he maybe would buy a pony for her, if those had been different ponies, not the same looking ones she got from me as a gift. Even if he understands that 'this pony is only different because it has tinsel in the hair', his daughter asks 'is it her twin? why is the name on the box the same as the name of my pony?' - and he cannot justify buying a pony she already has in his eyes, when he can buy cheaper toys like fakies, which look a bit different.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Zapper on January 16, 2014, 08:15:16 AM
I know some people say Hasbro went with the Core 7 and their current business model because it must be good business, but you have to remember this is the same company that thought killing off Optimus Prime was a good business move.

Haha! XD
Well, at least they learned from that and now Optimus is the least changed character throughout the franchise, dies every time but always comes back to life in the end. Even when not voiced by Peter Cullen the character has to die at some point and you just know he'll come back Jesus style and have three or four updated modes with wings and you can buy them all.
Their fault turned out to be their most used plot device.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Al-1701 on January 16, 2014, 08:42:09 PM
I know some people say Hasbro went with the Core 7 and their current business model because it must be good business, but you have to remember this is the same company that thought killing off Optimus Prime was a good business move.

Haha! XD
Well, at least they learned from that and now Optimus is the least changed character throughout the franchise, dies every time but always comes back to life in the end. Even when not voiced by Peter Cullen the character has to die at some point and you just know he'll come back Jesus style and have three or four updated modes with wings and you can buy them all.
Their fault turned out to be their most used plot device.
Hence why I call him Lazarus Prime.  Animated killed him the pilot just to get the requisite Optimus Prime death scheme out of the way quickly.

What I mean is G4 right now looks like other generations at the end of their runs.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: ashlyne on January 16, 2014, 10:23:55 PM
When Hasbro came out with the "Core 7" line with the G3's, my husband said "Oh, this is a BAD sign!"   He said awhile back that Hasbro did the same thing with their GI Joe line, creating the Sigma 6.  It failed miserably.   I believe Core 7 did the same thing to the G3 line.    And while having a popular regular TV show will keep the Mane 6 alive in this new generation, eventually (maybe sooner) it'll be a bad thing if Hasbro doesn't add more variety in their design line.   

The G1 lasted more than 10 years. I think the main reason it sort of died out is because most of its customer base just grew up.   I personally got interested in other things after about 7 years of collecting, just as I was turning a teenager.   Younger kids getting into toys had "new" toy lines to be interested in, not their older sister's hand-me-down ponies.   Just a thought anyway.

As far as your question goes, yes, I'm bored with them too. Have been for awhile.   The lack of poses, as well as the lack of characters, just wears on you after awhile.   I get more excited seeing a new set of stickers than a "new" Twilight Sparkle.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: SALTY5621 on January 16, 2014, 11:24:18 PM
my main problem with G4 is the size of the ponies in relation to the cost. in Australia its almost $10 for a basic brushable and ive seen stores go as high as $15. its insane considering G3s where about $5 for a brushable. and the sets! my god the sets! $60 is WAAAY too much for some poorly designed toy castle and really the only reason i want it is Shining Armor. its just a massive ripoff
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Sapphire-Light on January 17, 2014, 05:53:04 PM


In the spa set, I can't believe how they missed the chance to make the spa sisters Aloe and Lotus  :cry: the set is really cute, but what ge got instead?ANOTHER Pinkie Pie  >_< and this one is giving a bath to Fluttershy that doesn't even have sence.

That set was almost like an entire year in shelves until it was at 70% they were sold.


That REALLY bothered me, too.  How could they make a spa set and NOT include Aloe and Lotus Blossom?  They've even got pink in their designs.  What's the problem, Hasbro??



Yeah, since back at the core 7 days I wonder if Hasbro hates money  >_<

In the hole 1 year that the unsold spa set were at stores kids didn't even were atracted at it, only one time a little girl asked her mom to buy it but the mom said "you already have those ponies" so if Aloe and Lotus were includes that set would have sold.  :huh:


Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Firehooves on January 17, 2014, 06:02:04 PM
I do think the line is reaching the end of it's natural lifecycle, but might be kept on life support thanks to the show's popularity.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: StarDapple on January 17, 2014, 06:08:53 PM
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I haven't purchased a G4 toy in ages.  I try to buy ones I don't have, but seriously, I love Rarity and Cadence but I can only have so many before I have to quit.  If there was a big difference in each toy, like pose or some sort of gimmick, I would feel better about it, but as it stands, I just can't see shelling out $5+ for toys I already have.  I want variety!  Where is my Big Mac brushable??   :cry:

The show is becoming hit and miss for me as well.  I really didn't care for season 3, and season 4 is average with a couple of episodes I really enjoyed and a couple of episodes I really don't like.  I am gravitating towards the first two seasons, but more than ever I am going back to the G1 cartoons.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Firehooves on January 17, 2014, 06:10:46 PM
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I haven't purchased a G4 toy in ages.  I try to buy ones I don't have, but seriously, I love Rarity and Cadence but I can only have so many before I have to quit.  If there was a big difference in each toy, like pose or some sort of gimmick, I would feel better about it, but as it stands, I just can't see shelling out $5+ for toys I already have.  I want variety!  Where is my Big Mac brushable??   :cry:

The show is becoming hit and miss for me as well.  I really didn't care for season 3, and season 4 is average with a couple of episodes I really enjoyed and a couple of episodes I really don't like.  I am gravitating towards the first two seasons, but more than ever I am going back to the G1 cartoons.

Bravo to you! I'm about ready to give up, and just stick to my G1 rereuns.. aaand I might give that filly funtasia show a try when it starts later this year
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: StarDapple on January 17, 2014, 06:16:21 PM
Bravo to you! I'm about ready to give up, and just stick to my G1 rereuns.. aaand I might give that filly funtasia show a try when it starts later this year

What is this Filly Funtasia?  I've not heard of it!
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Twilight Pink on January 17, 2014, 06:38:37 PM
Bravo to you! I'm about ready to give up, and just stick to my G1 rereuns.. aaand I might give that filly funtasia show a try when it starts later this year

What is this Filly Funtasia?  I've not heard of it!
They're little flocked pony figurines :3
It's Germany's equivalent to MLP :)
http://www.filly.com/
http://fillyfuntasia.com/
Also called Filly Princess :P
http://www.fillyprincess.com/us/download/
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: RainbowAlicorn999 on January 17, 2014, 07:29:06 PM
What especially bothers me is that bronies, collectors and little kids all want new characters and they will not produce them. It also bothers me how easy they could be made. There are so many that could be made up or made very easily. They could take Fluttershy's yellow plastic, Applejack's mold, Pinkie Pie's hair and Twilight's hair to make a Bon Bon/Sweetie Drops. They could produce so many more stallions or ATLEAST unicorn stallions with Shining Armor's mold too. These new characters would sell just as good and if not more than the repeats. Little kids don't want duplicates. They won't be confused either if the pony looks a little different, and the parents will refuse to keep buying the same pony over and over again. If they don't want to give up their little game with the repeats, then they should also give us new characters in the brushable line every wave too.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Al-1701 on January 18, 2014, 07:26:14 AM
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I haven't purchased a G4 toy in ages.  I try to buy ones I don't have, but seriously, I love Rarity and Cadence but I can only have so many before I have to quit.  If there was a big difference in each toy, like pose or some sort of gimmick, I would feel better about it, but as it stands, I just can't see shelling out $5+ for toys I already have.  I want variety!  Where is my Big Mac brushable??   :cry:

The show is becoming hit and miss for me as well.  I really didn't care for season 3, and season 4 is average with a couple of episodes I really enjoyed and a couple of episodes I really don't like.  I am gravitating towards the first two seasons, but more than ever I am going back to the G1 cartoons.

Bravo to you! I'm about ready to give up, and just stick to my G1 rereuns.. aaand I might give that filly funtasia show a try when it starts later this year
I watch the new episodes just to keep up with the series.  However, I'm more ready to punch up one of the better G1 episodes and watch it than watch an episode of Friendship is Magic.  The actual stories of G1 are more engrossing while Friendship is Magic has becoming more and more about the jokes which once you've seen them all makes watching the episode again less engaging.

That's why I would love to see a companion series come out.  We need some fresh blood both to diversify the toyline and reach a larger audience.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: hathorcat on January 18, 2014, 10:13:55 AM
Do you mean G3 collapsed in on itself because of the core characters? So a lot of collectors fell a little out of love with the line? Financially the line was reasonably consistent throughout all years so it came more to a natural end than a self destructive one.

Out of curiosity, do you happen to know if the sales drop in the last year, especially when the G3,5 were introduced? And I mean only about the brushable ponies, not the Ponyville lines - I base it mostly on my own observation, but I assumed that with the Core 7 the sales did drop and the revamping of the characters was to also cut some costs - the same pony pose for the late G3's / early Core 7 ponies at least was that for me. Then the only Core-7 manufacturing and the new design seemed like bad idea financially - at least in my area those sets wouldn't sell well at all. The Ponyvilles were successful, but the brushables are still on sale in some places.   

What I meant though is that lacking the diversity in the G3 ponies after introducing hundreds of great designs made collectors upset with Hasbro - and now after the great success of the show and a new wave of fans who give $$ to Hasbro, I'm afraid the same thing is happening. Sure, maybe making collectors frustrated doesn't seem like much. But there are also parents who I guess will doubt that buying a pony which looks almost the same as the one their daughter/son already have is justified, especially with how the economy is nowadays. Add the inflation and it will seem that the pony is a bit more expensive than the similar one they bought 3 years ago... And it's not really theoretical - this comes from a conversation I had with my cousin after my mom joked that he should buy more ponies for his daughter because she loves them. He stated that he maybe would buy a pony for her, if those had been different ponies, not the same looking ones she got from me as a gift. Even if he understands that 'this pony is only different because it has tinsel in the hair', his daughter asks 'is it her twin? why is the name on the box the same as the name of my pony?' - and he cannot justify buying a pony she already has in his eyes, when he can buy cheaper toys like fakies, which look a bit different.

Oh it was a major fail with collectors of course and put so many people off the line but it was not a major fail with Hasbro or with retailers - the G3 lines figures was still strong enough that they carried the line right to the very end and it didn't slump with the core characters [according to a couple of retailers anyway]. But we are such a teeny tiny section of the sales market that even if we all stopped buying ponies off shelves, it would not dent the MLP line at all. G3.5 did seem to have a dramatic downturn but as a line it was a bit of a failed reboot in every way - supported only by limited media and perhaps a little unthought through.

I think a large factor with the change in simplifying down to core characters is to do with the current culture of childhood. You only have to watch sites like ebay where lots filled with "used" G4 toys are already showing up to see how quickly children move on from something nowadays. In the past toys were more treasured and, largely due to their expense, they were something which was not picked up with the weekly shopping but a specific purchase. Nowadays, toys are more focused on being a FMCG rather than a premier product. Its a complete shift in pattern and marketing for the sector has changed with it. Making the assumption that, many [of course not all but in the majority] kids want more things more often and get fed up with things quicker than ever before. Toy companies, when appealing to this temperamental age market [where kids zoom from toddler right into little girl], assume that they only have a childs attention for a short window. They dont have to worry about that little girl seeing Pinkie on the shelf 2 years after she got her first pony...because she has probably moved on to another toy line by then. Its more important to offer lots of different items at different price points with different functions/sets than lots of items at the same price range varying only in colour and design. *grumpy face*
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: gabumon on January 18, 2014, 10:59:45 AM
I think you've summed it up perfectly hathorcat. 

time to savor our G1 and G3 ponies, we likely won't ever get that variety again.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Firehooves on January 18, 2014, 11:02:58 AM
Hathorcat is correct, sadly. Adieu, high quality toys that are worth collecting. :(
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Al-1701 on January 18, 2014, 11:07:39 AM
The thing is, you need to build brand loyalty.  It's still possible to build lifers, but you need diversity to keep kids interested in the brand.  If there are new ponies showing up periodically, kids will be interested long enough to develop a loyalty to the brand and become collectors because they aren't just going through the "horsy" phase but genuinely like My Little Pony.

From how you describe it seems like Hasbro's mindset is "the current environment means we can be cheap" instead of taking up the challenge of making today's children return customers and eventually fans.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Appledash on January 18, 2014, 12:09:51 PM
Honestly I love the toys. I don't want the cartoon or the toyline to end. But I can agree that it's getting a little...boring. I just want new characters - that's it, and more creative playsets like they released in the first wave and the traveling wave.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: lovesbabysquirmy on January 18, 2014, 12:56:37 PM
The G1 lasted more than 10 years. I think the main reason it sort of died out is because most of its customer base just grew up.   I personally got interested in other things after about 7 years of collecting, just as I was turning a teenager.   Younger kids getting into toys had "new" toy lines to be interested in, not their older sister's hand-me-down ponies.   Just a thought anyway.

To be honest, Ashlyne...  I think you nailed it right there.  G1s were a generational thing - pardon the pun.  Every single kid I knew in the '80's and '90's had My Little Ponies - lots of them!  Not only did the older kids baby-sitting us play with them, all ages of siblings played with them, even the toddlers played with them.  By the time the target audience started to get into make-up and music and older teen stuff, there were NEWER and MORE EXCITING toys for our younger siblings and friends to covet than quiet, battery-free, brushable ponies to arrange in a stable.  Nintendo, Sega, designer clothing, Furbies, Discmans/Walkman's, RC vehicles, home computers... 
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Al-1701 on January 18, 2014, 01:22:09 PM
To me, it looks like G1 died due to a lack of vision.  Instead of trying to embrace the new normal, Hasbro let My Little Pony fall by the waist side.  Instead of using television to bring back the sense there's more to the ponies and their world, we got what to me seemed like a pathetic grab at the Babysitters Club's popularity which only reinforced MLP as a bland toyline.  (I know fans of Tales are going to want to burn me in Effigy which is a small town in New York for saying that, but it's what the move says to me.)

And G4 has a lack of vision already.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: StarDapple on January 18, 2014, 01:32:08 PM
Bravo to you! I'm about ready to give up, and just stick to my G1 rereuns.. aaand I might give that filly funtasia show a try when it starts later this year

What is this Filly Funtasia?  I've not heard of it!
They're little flocked pony figurines :3
It's Germany's equivalent to MLP :)
http://www.filly.com/
http://fillyfuntasia.com/
Also called Filly Princess :P
http://www.fillyprincess.com/us/download/

I don't think I would be interested in the toyline, but I will definitely give the show a watch.

Back on topic, I do feel that G4 has been running out of steam.  If it were any other gen that didn't have the backing of a subgroup like the bronies, I honestly feel that G4 would have ended itself after the season 3 finale.  It was a logical way to end a series and then move on to something else.  I'm not sure how long FiM will go on, but with a season 5 just recently announced, obviously Hasbro thinks they can draw it out for a while longer.  I think FiM is going to be one of those shows/toylines that just fades out when it should have quit when it was ahead.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: hathorcat on January 18, 2014, 03:14:15 PM
The thing is, you need to build brand loyalty.  It's still possible to build lifers, but you need diversity to keep kids interested in the brand.  If there are new ponies showing up periodically, kids will be interested long enough to develop a loyalty to the brand and become collectors because they aren't just going through the "horsy" phase but genuinely like My Little Pony.

From how you describe it seems like Hasbro's mindset is "the current environment means we can be cheap" instead of taking up the challenge of making today's children return customers and eventually fans.

Yes you need brand loyalty - especially if you are a new line. However when you are a leading and established brand - which everyone knows and a product which everyone buying a gift for a little girl is going to consider - loyalty factors a little lower on the marketing spectrum. Some brands are fortunate to move to a place which means they become synonymous with a product or with a concept, MLP is one of those brands. Ask average Joe on the street who makes a "pastel coloured toy pony". Most of them are going to answer "MLP" even though there are lots of toy companies who produce the same concept of item. Hasbro are fortunate to be in that position. When you have a brand that is so well known you focus on blanket awareness and dominance. You want every single person to know about MLP - it becomes about volume rather than repeat.

Its not Hasbros fault [or anything other than a changing world] to blame. But kids will not be interested in a brand for as long as they were in the 80s and earlier. Things move too quickly. They dont expect that little 4 year old to want ponies in 2 years time, she may have moved on to something else. So while she moves on, they need to pick up that next little 4 year old and attract her attention. Hence the importance of repeat characters always being available. Unfortunately Hasbro are a commercial company - they dont want a challenge, they just want to make money.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Al-1701 on January 18, 2014, 03:54:24 PM
Yes you need brand loyalty - especially if you are a new line. However when you are a leading and established brand - which everyone knows and a product which everyone buying a gift for a little girl is going to consider - loyalty factors a little lower on the marketing spectrum. Some brands are fortunate to move to a place which means they become synonymous with a product or with a concept, MLP is one of those brands. Ask average Joe on the street who makes a "pastel coloured toy pony". Most of them are going to answer "MLP" even though there are lots of toy companies who produce the same concept of item. Hasbro are fortunate to be in that position. When you have a brand that is so well known you focus on blanket awareness and dominance. You want every single person to know about MLP - it becomes about volume rather than repeat.

Its not Hasbros fault [or anything other than a changing world] to blame. But kids will not be interested in a brand for as long as they were in the 80s and earlier. Things move too quickly. They dont expect that little 4 year old to want ponies in 2 years time, she may have moved on to something else. So while she moves on, they need to pick up that next little 4 year old and attract her attention. Hence the importance of repeat characters always being available. Unfortunately Hasbro are a commercial company - they dont want a challenge, they just want to make money.
The problem is what's driving MLP right now is that G1 and G3 lasted for a long time and kept the attention of their customers for a significant portion of their formative years and turned them into a fan of the brand even when they stopped spending money on ponies.  Now they have little kids and are passing their interest in pony down to them.

What happens in twenty-five years when the 4 year old girls Hasbro figures they only needed to indulge for a year or two start having their kids?  Will they share their love of MLP with their kids?  No.  They'll barely remember it and probably for all the wrong reasons like the fact it was just the same six ponies over and over again.

It's cheaper in the long run to invest in keeping customers attention to keep the wave going than to let the wave crash and have to start over.  However, when it comes to MLP, Hasbro doesn't think in the long term backwards or forwards.  I could probably run the division better than schmuck running it right now and I'm an accounting student.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: hathorcat on January 18, 2014, 04:27:52 PM
They will remember it - that's my point. And more importantly they will associate the concept of a plastic toy pony with MLP. The brand relies, pretty heavily, on an established identity and a brand association with the product.

There are plenty of people out there right now buying ponies - not because of their childhood memories of MLP - but because "little girls like ponies". Because the product is priced cheaply enough, because its a cartoon on their kids favourite tv channel, because its what their child points to on the toy shop shelf and because its marketed very very well. Saying its more important to bond with a child now - who may or may not in the future have any need to buy ponies - rather than churn product, is not something a company is going to consider. Its important to capture the audience of course, to get that child to want Pinkie Pie or Rainbow Dash and thats what Hasbro are doing - while also making sure that no matter where you are you can get those characters.

Unfortunately in this day and age [and with this kind of brand] it is not cheaper to invest in keeping customers attention - especially when your customers attention is short in duration. Who knows where the toy line is going to be in 20 years when those children are adults - maybe MLP will have been cast into history due to style and fashion and trends having moved on. Why invest in a future which may never happen?

I hate the way the brand is going - I am on board with everyone else in thinking that we need new characters and just something more exciting happening in the line. But as a business, I can see the reasoning behind why they are doing it.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Dusky on January 18, 2014, 04:45:53 PM
^ Well, I agree with Hathorcat.


Basically I'm bored of the G4 line and I'm dismayed that they're not trying to keep an audience, in favour of churning out for the quick passers-by. It's depressing that the FAKES are getting better than the main line, and the visible plastic quality (lack thereof) and other flaws make me now actively recommend eBaying G3s rather than buying new G4s as toys.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Al-1701 on January 18, 2014, 04:53:47 PM
I thought the point to plan to be around in 20 years and adapt to the changing styles.  Hasbro has built itself on brand longevity.  Just look at Mr. Potato Head.

I will say this: Having a core cast is a good thing.  It provides an anchor for the brand and something that will entice new customers into the brand.  However, if all you have is a core, then they won't stick around for long.  Having diversity a. lengthens the time you have a customer's attention b. attracts more customers and c. costs almost nothing with a brand like MLP.  Transformers, a brand that requires each character have a unique and complex model, has more diversity than My Little Pony which use the same modes and materials over and over again.  Hasbro is walking away from practically free money.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: prancingstag on January 18, 2014, 07:53:28 PM
I wish Hasbro could shift their focus just a teeny weeny bit. Like, the reason season 3 was so short was because they said "Well, we already have 50 episodes. We don't need to order too many more, we can just play repeats out of the pool we've already created. Fans will like seeing their favourite episodes all the time, and 12 new episodes a year is more than enough to pad it out. We save money, and put in the minimal effort to keep interest up."

If they're making a living on repeating old episodes, then minor characters, one-time characters and enemies will hang around and quickly become more well known. So I don't know why they're not making more money off Zecora, Big Mac, the Wonderbolts, the Cakes, the Mayor, the griffons, the dragons, Daring Doo, etc. Sure, you can keep it core centric, and you can keep it to just the TV show characters. But why not expand the core just a little bit past the 6+3+4 formula? (Mane six, three princesses, CMC, Cheerilee.) There are dozens of characters in Equestria which could easily make it to the shelves and off into little kids toy boxes. Some of the names above are this season being included in the MAIN CREDITS, and still don't have a brushable to themself. Things like the favourites set and the CMC&Friends set gave me hope last year (despite being US-only >_< ), but the Rainbow Power/Rocks line is now COMPLETELY Core 7 (mane six and Cadence, not even a Celestia!), save for the one Trixie EQG doll.

I get that they are doing most of the new molds and characters in blind bag form, but I refuse to buy those based on the large price point for a tiny molded figure. $4 for a blind bag and between $17-20 for the mini figure sets is far too rich. All I want is a little more variety in the brushables, and if Hasbro can keep churning out 13 main characters of diverse colours, surely it wouldn't hurt them to put three or four more in there? Like the episodes. Core base, and a few new surprises each line to keep interest up. I'm almost at the point of not getting ANY of the RP/RR line. Flutter wings and zoomy wheels aren't quite attractive enough of a gimmick to make me jump for another Twilight, another Dash, another Pinkie.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Star Spark on January 19, 2014, 08:16:07 AM
I kind of doubt that My Little Pony will still be around in 20 years, or Hasbro, or even physical toys- everything is going electronic. And who knows, that might actually benefit My Little Pony and similar brands in the long run, as kids want to collect as many characters as possible for their video games (think Skylanders and Pixar Disney Infinity.)

In any case, current market forces don't excuse the absolute laziness of the G4 toyline- tiny ponies, identical poses, paper accessories, awful QC, and expensive sets that force you to buy identical ponies just to get newer ones (okay, that last one isn't lazy so much as greedy, but they could have been less blatant about it.) The early non-Mane 6 ponies didn't even have their own box-art- just obvious recolors of the distinctive Mane 6. If not for the fact that it's backed up by a good show with a staff that actually puts effort in its work (even if it isn't everyone's cup of tea) the line would have probably just faded out on its own after a couple of years. As it is, the pony sections in the stores near me are shrinking- it's like there isn't even enough truly "new" product to keep the short attention spans of contemporary kids whose parents might only be able to afford the basic brushable line, not all the gimmicks and overpriced sets. There's a difference between a need to turn a good profit and just not putting any effort into something, relying on brand name and an outside creative team to move just enough product to meet a short term goal- that's the vibe I get from the G4 line, and it's why I'm even turning to G3 now just to get a "new" (for me) pony fix.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Al-1701 on January 19, 2014, 08:30:49 AM
Actually, making brushable ponies that connect to a video game would be a brilliant idea.  Disney is doing it with Disney Infinity.  That way kids have a toy that can use to play a video game and still with when they unplug (and actually be able to do something with the toy).  They could do the same thing with Transformers and G.I. Joe.

While things are moving towards electronics, I think there will always be a demand for physical toys.  People, especially kids, need that tactile sensation.  That's probably one of the reasons Skylanders has taken off.  You can play the game, but you can take the toys and imagine your own adventures.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Star Spark on January 19, 2014, 08:33:56 AM
That's pretty much where I see physical toys going- I think there actually is something for Transformers that connects certain toys with a cell phone app. It might also be the only thing that can save G.I. Joe at this point, since the toyline can't find its footing (and given how popular "military" games are.)
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: rtattles on January 19, 2014, 09:08:10 AM
I kind of doubt that My Little Pony will still be around in 20 years, or Hasbro, or even physical toys- everything is going electronic. And who knows, that might actually benefit My Little Pony and similar brands in the long run, as kids want to collect as many characters as possible for their video games (think Skylanders and Pixar Disney Infinity.)

In any case, current market forces don't excuse the absolute laziness of the G4 toyline- tiny ponies, identical poses, paper accessories, awful QC, and expensive sets that force you to buy identical ponies just to get newer ones (okay, that last one isn't lazy so much as greedy, but they could have been less blatant about it.) The early non-Mane 6 ponies didn't even have their own box-art- just obvious recolors of the distinctive Mane 6. If not for the fact that it's backed up by a good show with a staff that actually puts effort in its work (even if it isn't everyone's cup of tea) the line would have probably just faded out on its own after a couple of years. As it is, the pony sections in the stores near me are shrinking- it's like there isn't even enough truly "new" product to keep the short attention spans of contemporary kids whose parents might only be able to afford the basic brushable line, not all the gimmicks and overpriced sets. There's a difference between a need to turn a good profit and just not putting any effort into something, relying on brand name and an outside creative team to move just enough product to meet a short term goal- that's the vibe I get from the G4 line, and it's why I'm even turning to G3 now just to get a "new" (for me) pony fix.

Wow Star Spark you hit the nail on the head!!! That's exactly the point. Despite current market forces, the MLP products are coming off as lazy and sloppy. A bit more effort wouldn't kill Hasbro, considering now that they have the backing of Bronies and the general collecting community. More revenue should translate to better products, not the feeling that Hasbro couldn't care less.  I haven't seen single packaged ponies around in a lot of stores. I don't want to shell out crazy prices for playsets and either do I collect the larger fashion styles that are costing between $26-34. The whole line is boring me toy wise, even the blind bags because even those are starting to have more and more repeats.

I always get the impression that no matter how well MLP does, the staff in Hasbro will never show it the attention it deserves because it doesn't carry the "cool" factor, and they are actually ashamed of being associated with it, just like the time in 2008 when I attended the Pony Fair. The Hasbro employees treated collectors like we're freaks. I won't say ALL the employees, but most of them do. Either that, they're temp staff so they really don't know what was going on.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Al-1701 on January 19, 2014, 10:14:46 AM
I always have this image of some jerk in Rhode Island gnashing their teeth and snarling, "Damn those little ponies.  Why won't they die?"  Some of their business decisions only make sense with that assumption.

The thing is, if they don't like the lack of the "cool" factor, why keep MLP a slice of life brand?  Why not take it all the way back to its high fantasy roots?
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Bellevi on January 19, 2014, 10:49:31 AM
I haven't bought a G4 in months. The last one I purchased was Sunset Shimmer and the next one I plan on buying eventually is a loose G4 Minty from eBay. But other than that, I'm bored with them. I'm just not interested in buying any of the Core, "only this time, so-and-so has glitter hearts on her and tinsel in her hair!"

The Funko vinyls don't really interest me, either. I'm not very interested in buying ponies based off of ponies from this new show, y'know? I want a pony just for the sake of a pony, like Lily Lightly or Waterfire!

But, hey, it leaves me with more money.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: G4Sweeties on January 19, 2014, 12:42:17 PM
Even as a big G4 fan, I still have lots of complaints about the line. To me a dream line would have the diversity of G3 and the awesomeness of the show, and overall make it more fun! Its always a nice dream for me because the G4 toys are so cute! And then the MLP line will dominate over all other inferior toylines and rule the world. All shall submit to our adorable pony overlords >:D *queen bonnie and princess lauren faust are heard evilly cackling in the background*
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: partypony566 on January 19, 2014, 12:45:48 PM
I kind of doubt that My Little Pony will still be around in 20 years, or Hasbro, or even physical toys- everything is going electronic. And who knows, that might actually benefit My Little Pony and similar brands in the long run, as kids want to collect as many characters as possible for their video games (think Skylanders and Pixar Disney Infinity.)

In any case, current market forces don't excuse the absolute laziness of the G4 toyline- tiny ponies, identical poses, paper accessories, awful QC, and expensive sets that force you to buy identical ponies just to get newer ones (okay, that last one isn't lazy so much as greedy, but they could have been less blatant about it.) The early non-Mane 6 ponies didn't even have their own box-art- just obvious recolors of the distinctive Mane 6. If not for the fact that it's backed up by a good show with a staff that actually puts effort in its work (even if it isn't everyone's cup of tea) the line would have probably just faded out on its own after a couple of years. As it is, the pony sections in the stores near me are shrinking- it's like there isn't even enough truly "new" product to keep the short attention spans of contemporary kids whose parents might only be able to afford the basic brushable line, not all the gimmicks and overpriced sets. There's a difference between a need to turn a good profit and just not putting any effort into something, relying on brand name and an outside creative team to move just enough product to meet a short term goal- that's the vibe I get from the G4 line, and it's why I'm even turning to G3 now just to get a "new" (for me) pony fix.

I totally agree.....and seriously the paper accessories?!?!? PAPER?!?! :crazy: Hasbro has gone right down hill.....never had that in my day of G1s.... *grumble*
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Al-1701 on January 19, 2014, 01:41:27 PM
There was also the odd defect in the wedding set where the central column was too short.  My only assumption is they translated the measure from inches to centimeters by multiplying by 2.5 instead of 2.54.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Violet CLM on January 19, 2014, 01:50:10 PM
G3 Puzzlemint came packaged with a video game. I wonder how well she sold, compared to other ponies released around the same time.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: moonflower on January 19, 2014, 02:42:06 PM
I too am bored with G4 and have not bought one for a good while, I think the last pony I bought was Wysteria. I like the ones that I have (mainly MOC singles) but nothing that has been released recently has interested me.
I like unique characters so the same 6 ponies released over and over again is boring. The boxed character sets take the fun out of collecting too, I'd rather the characters be released separately so I could collect them not buy them all at once.

G3 Puzzlemint came packaged with a video game. I wonder how well she sold, compared to other ponies released around the same time.

I don't have a definite answer but going by the fact that mine was heavily discounted I would say Puzzlemint didn't sell very well, at least in the UK.
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Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Salli on January 19, 2014, 02:48:42 PM
So.

I have Minty.
I have Muffin Pony and the others from the newer TRU set.
I have Sunset Shimmer.
I have Wisteria.
I have Mrs. Cake and Twirly treats.
I am waiting to see the new school fillies set.

Are there any other ponies on the horizon????
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: hathorcat on January 21, 2014, 03:47:06 AM
So.

I have Minty.
I have Muffin Pony and the others from the newer TRU set.
I have Sunset Shimmer.
I have Wisteria.
I have Mrs. Cake and Twirly treats.
I am waiting to see the new school fillies set.

Are there any other ponies on the horizon????

New characters? Nope...nothing spotted at all outside of the blind bags.

However the Toy Fair is only 3 weeks away so I am sure we will see something [or at least we can hope]. If we see only the same as last year  - i.e. the only new characters in one "Collectors Set" and one or two singles then I am going to prepare for a disappointing 2014/2015 as well :(
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Wardah on January 21, 2014, 05:48:00 AM
They didn't show Rainbow Power at the last Toy Fair so even if there is nothing new there there might be new stuff. But there haven't been any taobao leaks lately either.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Al-1701 on January 21, 2014, 06:50:53 AM
Rainbow Power is just another version of the same characters, so not like they neglected to mention the addition of new characters.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: hathorcat on January 21, 2014, 07:57:08 AM
They didn't show Rainbow Power at the last Toy Fair so even if there is nothing new there there might be new stuff. But there haven't been any taobao leaks lately either.

Yes sorry I meant new characters. :) As the Rainbow line has just been repeats. They also did not show Mrs Cake or Twirly at the show. Its more a general indication for me. If the line does not indicate some variety...and lets face it after goodness knows how many repeat waves now with no new characters, if they dont show a future singles wave with new characters it does not forebode well for the year.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Star Spark on January 21, 2014, 09:29:07 AM
Hopefully last year's lack of new brushables was due to a desire to focus things on Equestria Girls (both on the production and consumer ends); there's still some new EQ stuff coming out but maybe the main line will get some breathing room again. Otherwise... at least the mini sets are getting new molds...  :sad:
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: gabumon on January 21, 2014, 02:54:25 PM
Hopefully last year's lack of new brushables was due to a desire to focus things on Equestria Girls (both on the production and consumer ends); ...

hadn't thought of that. maybe you're right.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: hathorcat on January 21, 2014, 03:08:12 PM
Ok. :) I like the idea of EQG distracting attention! I am going to hope thats all it was. *puts hopeful hat back on*
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Zapper on January 21, 2014, 04:36:16 PM
Rainbow Power would be the perfect opportunity to re-release Rainbow Flash... I have one, but I know lots of people are hunting for her. Hasbro's stupid for not observing the highly demanded ponies. People want Fashion Style AJ, people want the Euro Exclusives - they could just remake them, but no.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: RainbowAlicorn999 on January 21, 2014, 04:56:08 PM
I think that if they added more characters and diversity to the brushable line, my little pony could be the biggest toy craze in the world.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: CottonTALE on January 21, 2014, 05:20:12 PM
Re-releasing Skywishes, Rainbow Flash, Star Swirl, and Non Glimmer-Wings Ploomette within the Americas would be really good for profits for Hasbro. They would not have to get a new copyright, since they have previously been brushables... Tis just a matter of using the same molds as before.

Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Willowhawk on January 21, 2014, 05:29:07 PM
I liked when they had the random ones like Dew Drop Dazzle etc. Rather than the recycled mane 6 over and over again.

Precisely. I was excited about this line because Hasbro said they wouldn't fall into the Bore 7 thing again. Nope. :(
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Sora on January 21, 2014, 05:40:21 PM
Re-releasing Skywishes, Rainbow Flash, Star Swirl, and Non Glimmer-Wings Ploomette within the Americas would be really good for profits for Hasbro. They would not have to get a new copyright, since they have previously been brushables... Tis just a matter of using the same molds as before.
They've still got to release an awful lot of ponies in Europe too. There's an insane amount of stuff in the US (including merchandise) that the rest of the world just can't get hold of :(
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Twilight Pink on January 21, 2014, 06:11:55 PM
Re-releasing Skywishes, Rainbow Flash, Star Swirl, and Non Glimmer-Wings Ploomette within the Americas would be really good for profits for Hasbro. They would not have to get a new copyright, since they have previously been brushables... Tis just a matter of using the same molds as before.
I agree :P I see quite a few Skywishes and Ploomette on ebay and Taobao, but no Star Swirl :/ Star Swirl is uber expensive on ebay!!! Irritates the crap outta me knowing I'll never be able to get her :/

Hasbroken should definitely re-release them over here in the USA...
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: tinyblondie on January 21, 2014, 06:53:57 PM
At first I didn't like G4 at all, G3 are my favorites and the G4's are really boring compared to them (not to mention the quality isn't as nice). I had a period of time where I watched the show and began to quite like it so I bought a couple of Pinkie Pie's but honestly my like for it had just died down again. I haven't been keeping up with series 4 of the show and there are very few toys that I actually want. I really hate the Equestria Girls dolls and I think that's what made me start to dislike G4 again (I actually enjoyed the movie though).

I think I'll get all the Build a Bear's (they are the one thing I love about G4), the So Soft Pinkie Pie's and the Funko Pop vinyl Pinkie.  If they go on sale I may get the giant Twilight Sparkle (I love big ponies) and possibly the Fashion Style Princess's, chances are I wont though.

Honestly I really cant wait for G5 to be released, I'd love it if they were similar to the G3's but I think that is kind of unlikely because of how huge the Brony fandom is. But a girl can dream. ^^
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Salli on January 22, 2014, 02:45:23 PM
They didn't show Rainbow Power at the last Toy Fair so even if there is nothing new there there might be new stuff. But there haven't been any taobao leaks lately either.

Yes sorry I meant new characters. :) As the Rainbow line has just been repeats. They also did not show Mrs Cake or Twirly at the show. Its more a general indication for me. If the line does not indicate some variety...and lets face it after goodness knows how many repeat waves now with no new characters, if they dont show a future singles wave with new characters it does not forebode well for the year.

Rainbow power mane 6 don't count for me either. I just grab Rarity from new lines when I see one but otherwise, no thanks.

I hope they something cool in the Collector's set. I would so LOVE a King Sombra.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: CottonTALE on January 22, 2014, 03:12:52 PM
I would love to see Hasbro make the rest of the Wave 2 Blind Bag ponies into brushables. There are only 5 that have not been become a brushable!  >_<

Honeybelle
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Pudding Pie
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Ribbon Heart
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Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Salli on January 23, 2014, 08:30:02 AM
I would so love that, CottonTale. Especially Tea Love! The world needs more green ponies.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: reanna-mator on January 23, 2014, 08:31:50 AM
I would so love that, CottonTale. Especially Tea Love! The world needs more green ponies.

Ooh, me too! I adore Tea Love and a brushable of her would be divine. <3
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: hathorcat on January 23, 2014, 08:32:53 AM
A Tea Love playful size pony is a must! Every time there are threads asking what people would like to see she always crops up - she is adorable!
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: reanna-mator on January 23, 2014, 08:41:59 AM
A Tea Love playful size pony is a must! Every time there are threads asking what people would like to see she always crops up - she is adorable!

Besides that, she's tea-themed! I love tea-themed ponies.  :lovey:
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: rtattles on January 23, 2014, 08:56:15 AM
I vote for Honeybelle.
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: CottonTALE on January 23, 2014, 09:07:58 AM
I'd love for them all to be released in a wave at once :) although, there is also a lack of pegasus-ponies... so let's throw in these lassies for good measure:

Lucky Dreams (All for green ponies!) :
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Breezie (one step closer to having surprise come :P) :
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Rainbowshine (yay rainbows!) :
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Sugar Grape (Always sends a good message to eat fruits :) ) :
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And another pony i'd love to see is a non Glimmer-Wings Sweet Song... Hey, it happend with Ploomette, why not with Sweet Song :P
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: Zapper on January 23, 2014, 09:10:22 AM
While we're talking about brushies we wish they'd make - I'm still waiting for that Photo Finish studio set with PF's assistants and Fluttershy as model. That would be the set of my dreams...
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: CupidStrikes on January 23, 2014, 11:27:57 AM
Brushable Wonderbolts  :drunk:
Title: Re: Is anyone else really bored with G4?
Post by: reanna-mator on January 23, 2014, 12:02:14 PM
Brushable Wonderbolts  :drunk:

Imagine if they came as a set, with a bunch of accessories that let you set up obstacle courses, like hoops and such! :)
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